Covid hysteria continues among local councils, as health and safety inspectors tell bars and pubs they should refuse to refill glasses from taps to prevent the spread of Covid. MailOnline has the story.
Many an ale lover enjoys drinking from their own glass or tankard at the pub.
But the common practice of refilling glasses is falling foul of Covid concerns.
Council health and safety inspectors – who are carrying out checks for the first time since the pandemic began – are urging bars to use fresh glasses every time to stop the risk of tap nozzles being contaminated.
Pubs are not specifically required by law to do this but they are obliged to serve drinks in a hygienic way.
This has just gone too far now.
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Alcohol. Best antiseptic known to man.
Oh, and remind me what is the principal active content of hand sanitizers….
I was going to say the same. In fact the hand sanitizer containers at the door should be single use only, for the same reason!
That’s right – you’ll get The Virus from the last person who pressed the handle of the bottle.
Let me get this right.
You press the handle, which contaminates your hand whilst simultaneously ejecting sanitiser onto your other hand, which you then rub on the contaminated hand to kill the virus?
Then you walk away from the sanitiser dispenser without touching it again?
This is always assuming:
‘UV’ lights shining down from hand dryers always make me laugh. As though 10 seconds exposure to an insipid glow will kill anything.
Hand driers have a blue LED as a marketing feature. UV is invisible.
Otherwise this is lesson to the stupid.
Shouldn’t that LED be violet-coloured? Or are they more expensive?
Well before all this covid nonsense came our way, I was blow-drying my hands in the ‘rest-room’ of the office where I worked. The man next to me washed his hands, then dried them using toilet paper (bits of which were strewn all over the floor).
I looked at him quizzically and he explained that he didn’t want to blow the germ-laden air in that toilet facility all over his clean hands.
‘That would be the same air you’ve been breathing while you’re in here?’ I prompted.
My reward was an uncomprehending glare, just as another gent who’d been having a pee left the room without washing his hands, but touching the handle which my hygiene-challenged colleague then touched in turn.
Who said engineers weren’t logical?
Idiot.
Propaganda. Covid is a respiratory disease
Do I win a prize?
One of the early clues that convid was a scam was the fact that initially they were claming the main way to prevent so called transmission was to wash the hands – for a respiratory illness. A clear defiance of logic, probably done on purpose, so clear defiances of logic become normalised
They had to make everyone think everything was a possible “contaminant” for the “deadly disease”.
Watch them go off the scale with that with the Moneypox. (leaving the K out was deliberate there)
First part of being illogical is to reject evidence because of your bias.
And yet they scoffed when Trump advised gargling with Domestos (or whatever) which would at least have been approaching the problem from the correct direction…
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I’m afraid not. The propaganda is the principal AIM of hand sanitisers, but not an ingredient.
Yep 60% concentration by volume. What sort of beer do you drink.
Never used hand sanitiser in my life. Saw the damage it did to my grandmother when her carer used it on her.
Scratch underneath the surface and you will find control-freaks behind this kind of stuff, every time. It is way past time they were exposed, defunded and removed from positions of influence and authority. Cheers! Noroc!
Yep. Behavioural psychologists and “opinion managers” run the government.
Are they softening up the public for another lockdown in autumn? Or justifying health passports and digital IDs “because we can’t afford another lockdown”?
If only we could elect into office the party on the side of reducing government interference……
12 years of “Conservative” government and we get petty state authoritarians poking into our lives everywhere, and state funds devoted to shoe-horning leftist green and “anti-racist” dogmas into every corner of the nation.
Let’s not forget what those 12 years of “Conservatives” in 10 Downing St have achieved for the NHS:
“NHS HIRING EVEN MORE £60,000 EQUALITY AND INCLUSION MANAGERS”
https://order-order.com/2022/03/11/nhs-hiring-even-more-60000-equality-and-inclusion-managers/
“Dr Nick Watts is the Chief Sustainability Officer of the NHS, responsible for its commitment to deliver a world-class net zero emission health service. Based in London, he leads the Greener NHS team across the country”
https://www.england.nhs.uk/author/dr-nick-watts/
Indeed.
Had to laugh at Will’s last line : “This has just gone too far now.”
Only ‘now’?
it takes one pint to get rid of the taste of soap!
This was standard advice when I worked bars in 98. If you do refill don’t put the nozzle into the liquid. Although if you saw the state of the glass washer after the ashtrays had been through you probably wouldn’t care about the nozzle.
Indeed. I always looked at those glass-washer gizmos and wondered how anyone could think them hygienic. On the other hand, all those drinkers probably die from something other than the mucky glasses from which they’ve been supping.
“. . .This has just gone too far now.”
Hmm, for my money Will, it went too far – waaaaaaay too far – when the powers that be started jabbing kids for no good (medical) reason when they knew there was a risk of substantial harm.
Apologies – you beat me to it and did a better job of it than I did timsk. I hadn’t scrolled down this far.
Although, to be fair, I’d say it went too far when they locked everyone down, vulnerable and healthy alike, for a not that deadly virus. And kept doing it.
Even a senior government scientist, Mark Woolhouse, concludes that lockdowns were unnecessary in his book “The Year the World went Mad”.
Of course the real reason for lockdowns was the imposition of absolute control in preparation for the globalist’s intended world government. Sadly Boris appears to be under their control already.
Not being able to re-fill a glass was a thing before covid, due to “normal” elf’n’safety measures.
I worked in pubs, as bar staff and cleaner, when I was a student. Given the state of the bogs, the floor, and the furniture, refilling a glass would not make the blindest bit of difference, these people were clearly immune to everything.
Scraping the dried on remains of a punter’s last meal mixed with cider and black off the floor round the back of the traps was always challenging on a Sunday morning.
But it is standard practice at all CAMRA run beer festivals, at which a new glass is provided to the customer, to use throughout. The attendees can take them home afterwards. I’ve been working at those for many years.
Coronavirus is a respiratory virus. Do bartenders have a habit of sniffing drink nozzles?
Or licking them.
No end of possible things to spread through poor hygiene. Would you also be pleased to be gives cutlery unwashed, since the previous customer?
I’m refilling glasses and coffe pots at home without washing them in between. I’d be perfectly happy with the same happening in a pub. I’ve also been cooking my own dinners from raw ingredients for some 20 years and my kitchen practices are a far cry from what, say, the WHO (they obviously have recommendations to prevent kitchen infections, basically, disinfect everything before and after touching it and make sure to throw the ready food away as eating would be just too dangerous) would consider hygenic. I’ve mostly picked them up from my mum, though :-). And now for the ultimate dare-devil life threatening risk taking just for the fun of it: Today, a strange bulldog sniffed my fingers and I briefly patted the back of his head. Not only haven’t I washed my hands since, I also prepared a pair of sandwiches and ate them.
Do you wash your hands after peeing?
I don’t: it makes no sense.
Not unless there’s a real reason for that.
Doesn’t that rather depend on where you had your little fella immediately before you felt the urge to pee?
I suppose you’re not able to follow this thought through – that if you had more than one course you might use the same cutlery without hesitation.
What SPREAD?
What is it about pubs and drinkers that keep drawing the attention of these petty minded jerks? They just can’t leave them alone. Covid has given them endless excuses to interfere in what used to be simple everyday pleasures for normal people. Or is that what is really getting up their noses?
Yes, in a word. It is maddening to them the great unwashed are so indifferent to the real issues facing society.
More accurately, it is maddening to them we don’t share their neurosis about climategeddon, racism and homophobia. They assume they are right about these things so our indifference is taken as lack of understanding of these deep issues, not lack of interest. How can you be indifferent to the plight of transgender toddlers born into the wrong body, you monster?
What has this to do with pubs and boozing? They represent normality. They represent people somehow getting on with life despite the fact the UK will be an unlivable furnace by 2100, assuming the transphobia doesn’t end us sooner. Plus racist homophobia, polar bear genocide and the importance of Standing with Ukraine.
Remember all the people lining up for jabs and wearing masks in their car? They can’t understand why you didn’t do that. You got it wrong. They cannot be wrong. You in your car maskless with the wife and kids must be ignorance on your part. All that normality makes them question themslves. And you entering a pub, maskless no less, mixing with other disease carriers and DRINKING FROM UNCLEAN GLASSES is an affront to their superior understanding of things.
The older I get the more I see the wisdom in Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution; the world is full of clowns, we need a big list of things they are not allowed to impose on the rest of us
‘we need a big list of things they are not allowed to impose on the rest of us’.
I disagree. We need a short list, a very short list of things they are allowed to impose on us.
That is not how our traditions work. Everything is permissible unless explicitly verboten. That is the only way. You don’t get to decide what I can do.
Yes – there are gauleiters everywhere now for everything.
I knew this wouldn’t end well early on when there was a braindead 17 year old telling me which aisles I could and could not go down in Tesco, flying in the face of all logic and common sense, because “those are the rules”.
Indeed. That’s Mrs Dee’s job in our house and she thinks the government should keep its nose out.
It’s the false Puritan. (There were true puritans, who just wanted to live a quiet, sober, God-fearing life.) Your false Puritan is the person who is haunted by the dreadful fear that somebody, somewhere, might be having a good time. Your false Puritan can’t bear that sort of thing, and it has to be stopped. Your false Puritan enjoys nothing more than stopping other people enjoying themselves. For the good of their souls, he says, or nowadays, to keep eeeeeverybody saaaaaaafe.
There is a long line of civil servants queuing up every morning to register their pet hate as a crime.
And if you want to find a very large concentration of them, looks no further than the NHS – they absolutely refuse to drop the Covid theatre, and will spout a load of patronising bollox if anyone challenges their Holy Covid Rituals.
I don’t think they are picking on pubs in particular – they just love interfering and will do so whenever and wherever they see an opportunity.
Licensing was introduced during the First World War ostensibly to prevent workers in munitions factories turning up drunk. Just a temporary measure you understand. It will be removed when we beat the Hun.
Now it is a full-blown racket. Some bureaucrat in a council building decides the fate of people gambling their own money to bring services to the public.
In a related example I once asked a local cafe owner why they didn’t offer hot breakfasts; rolls with egg, bacon, sausage etc. Seemed an obvious thing to experiment with as the coffee was very good and we all like a decent breakfast roll from time to time. He answered that it was the hassle and cost of getting a licence for the preparation of hot food. They only used a microwave for previously cooked food. Actual food cooking, even just bacon and eggs, was subject to all sorts of scrutiny and cost more than he could gamble. There was suggestion that his modest kitchen would need to be remodelled too.
As with so much in modern Britain the answer is about the fundamentals. We can all buy in to some basic hygiene standards. Perhaps the council able to do spot checks. But the racket that has evolved is strangling many small players, including pubs. Why can’t we put a stop to this and leave these decisions to the people providing the service?
What is it you are unhappy about?
I thought the obvious gist was that the authorities interfere too much.
If I think a food or drink establishment doesn’t look sufficiently clean or properly run, I don’t eat or drink there, whether or not the council bods say it’s okay.
It would appear that hygiene obsession has resulted in generations of kids who suffer all sorts of allergies due to their germ-free upbringing.
This has been standard practice, imposed by local health inspectors, in the majority of UK pubs for the last three decades. And quite rightly so.
Whilst I personally couldn’t give a stuff about covid, back in the 80’s I saw Hepatitis C sweep through the regulars (and their families) in my local village pub and it was traced back to the real ale spout being dipped in one dirty, spittle lined, glass after another.
Been law in Scotland for as long as I can remember.
Was going to be my comment.
If we believe in germ theory, it’s no more than a sensible regard for hygiene. Should apply to a glass pushed up against the optic, as well as those in which a beer nozzle is submerged.
If you must drink from your own tankard, pour the pub’s glass out into it.
Next thing: ban ring-pull cans. I’ve absolutely no idea how you are meant to drink from them without washing the accumulated grot from the top of the can (sometimes a bonus price label, too) down your throat.
On the other hand, all other mammals eat from the ground.
Where do these idiots come from? There must be some sort of finishing school for the witless and incredibly stupid.
Idiots will always be with us. Except in the pub, obviously.
Jobsworths.
Just ignore the bastards. Same goes for the rest of it.
Council Health and Safety Inspectors Tell Pubs Not to Refill Glasses “to Prevent Covid Spread”
Council health and safety inspectors – who are carrying out checks for the first time since the pandemic began. Cunning; better than working from home!
Just wait until the WHO treaty gets ratified in a few days time. This will seem like sanity in a few months time.
Title fight tonight on Sky Sports:
Head to Head.
The mad Covid Vs Insane Environmentalist.
Reuse a glass and catch covid – Wash your glass and the planet burns.
The Showdown!
Crikey – going to be a tough one to call.
This is a messy show but something which needs to be done a lot more – I would like to see Andy Kaufman and Stefan Lanka and co working with Robert Malone and others to settle this score once and for all. McCairns style in this is an example of why progress is not being made, it makes all sides of the argument look bad, ie the debate itself
DOES SARS-CoV-2 EXIST? Virus Debate Between Dr Mark Bailey & Dr Kevin McCairn
https://www.bitchute.com/video/b7IyQiecEEoe/
Yes, I have been in a pub in England where I said they could use the same glass but the barman said he couldn’t as my old glass might touch the pipe and my dreadful diseases would swim all the way to their cellar and infect everything.
Wasn’t Brexit supposed to relieve the UK of the bureaucracy imposed by the EU’s obsession with the precautionary principle?
It seems it’s just galvanised them to tyrannise the world even faster than their original blueprint.
Glad someone else remembers this.
It’s not ‘The current thing’ any longer. May well not have happened as far as most people are concerned.
Are we still on Ukraine or are we moving to moneypox now? I can’t be sure and I do of course want to be supporting the current thing.
Tyranny.. are we back to Putin?
The function room where I worked had an old glass washer which we would fill up with water at the beginning and drain after 6 hours and after about a 1000 glasses went through. Oh, fun fact, in the 5 years I worked there it never pulled through any detergent, so we “washed” with just hot water.
In 2020 I mentioned to my manager, who was very keen on H&S and even went to other sites to promote her work she had done at our site, now we really needed to get a new glass washer. I do not know if they finally got one, as I left the company.
The council and govt can introduce as much legisaltion, rules and guidance as they want, a lot of food premises
Our postgrad bar had a sort of twirling brush thing that you “washed” the glasses with. Same cold water most of the night. Someone in the biology department did an assay of what was living in it, and we got a proper glass washing machine soon after.
Same old, almost unnoticed but frighteningly true. Many English councils are run for and by the middle east temperance society, shutting bars and pubs a demand of fanatical credo.
“This has just gone too far now.”
This went too far over two years ago.
Wow, what an outrage. Pubs being asked to consider hygiene.
Next they will be insisting on washing cutlery between customers.
Back in the real world, every pub I go to issues clean glasses for each drink. Has been doing so for years.
Whooosh… that went straight over your head. Comprehension isn’t your strong point.
A properly trained barman/barmaid/barperson (delete as applicable) doesn’t let the tap touch the glass or the contents. That was what I was taught over 50 years ago.
Covid is a nozzle born virus.
On a much, much brighter note, yours truly and Mrs FP went to a Hollies (asķ your parents/grandparents) concert last night in Birmingham; amongst the many, many people there, well into 4 figures, I only saw 3 people wearing face nappies.
Funnily enough this one doesn’t bother me. I’ve always asked for a fresh glass with each pint. But yes, it’s complete nonsense, and scientific bull. Covid is an airborne virus it has sweet FA to do with liquid in beer glases. But then science did cease to exist after 2020 to be replaced with government propaganda.
When (or if) you go to a beer festival you will be given a new glass, which you then use throughout, and can take it away as a souvenir. You take it back to the bar as many times as you want, unless you’re so drunk that they won’t serve you!
Covid is a respiratory virus spread through the air.
Bacterium live on surface area’s.
This is insanity. I need a drink.
Seems to me to me idle hands do the devil’s work. We need less government and more pub landlords.
I suggest councils clean out their Health & Safety departments because clearly they are infected with some sort of virus that drives you stark staring mad.
I was wondering if you would print an article about the Better Way Conference in Bath this past weekend. Hosted by Dr. Tess Lawrie, speakers included, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Ryan Cole, Del Bigtree, Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, Robert Kennedy, Dr Pierre Kory, many other doctors, scientists, environmentalists, and legal experts. Oracle was there filming the whole event and will release their film about this gathering. This was a historical gathering. I hope the daily sceptic can find the space to record it. Many thanks.
Went to the Raven Pub in Bath this weekend just to shake the hand of the landlord who kicked Kier Starmer out of his pub when he tried to enter. Somehow, I don’t think this landlord will be changing glasses for each customer. But I could be wrong. Because I am certain whoever came up with this brand new brainiac idea has the science to support it
In this period where there’s a fight to slash unnecessary costs, eliminating the Health & Safety Executive would do it
We neither need nor want the interference of such jobsworths.
So, the Council now think the covid virus can be transported AGAINST the flow of beer from tap to glass!! They also obviously haven’t heard that transmission by surface contact is not a thing (TfL teams extensively swabbed the Tube, but found nothing). Why do we employ such brainless people??
Better we employ them and they generate tax income than they just claim benefits
Addenbrooke’s Hospital late Feb 2020 in a public waiting area and the staff refilled their water bottles from the public water cooler…….probably still do.
I’d be more concerned with Norovirus which actually transmits by fomite but I guess the council guys are Covid-obsessive – after all it’s the only player in town when you’ve been sitting in your bedroom for two years.
They are obviously not educated enough to be out telling others what to do. I assume they wear masks when they make their inspection!
Rather like our local fire brigade. Blue lighting through town a moment ago, all masked up in their cab. Don’t they only share their can with their colleagues, who they will know are not infected as they’re at work with them??!! And when they attend their shout it will either be in the open air, where masks are even more useless than usual or inside where they’ll be wearing breathing apparatus. Absolute clowns.
Perhaps the FBU are trying to get ready for a strike as their employers haven’t provided them with a Covid safe working environment, a la the DVLA. Or perhaps as they don’t get to demonstrate their bravery much these days thanks to the lack of fires, they think they’d better virtue signal instead. Lets all bang pots for our VS firefighters.
You’ve just enjoyed a round of beers with friends, some of whom were sitting opposite you, thereby breathing the same ale-laden fumes. You head for the bar to get in your round, thereby handling others’ glasses. The barman, who is handling all the glasses that come his way and is too idle to rinse or gel his hands except when he’s been to the toilet (if indeed even then) promptly refills said glasses, thereby (according to the Elf’n’Safety bod from t’Council) exponentially increasing the risk of your entire circle of friends (not to mention the barman’s nearest and dearest) and potentially everyone drinking in that pub until the Hazmat Boys arrive.
Hygiene 101 for the 2020s…
What ”spread” would THAT be, then?