A Daily Sceptic reader sent us the letter he received recently from the Office for National Statistics, a Government body, in which it states that “having had a COVID-19 infection before usually gives a stronger immune response than vaccination”.
Our bodies respond to infection and to vaccination in slightly different ways. Having had a COVID-19 infection before usually gives a stronger immune response than vaccination. To get a similar level of protection from vaccination alone, a higher level of antibodies is needed.
Given how often this has been denied by Government scientists and advisers keen to encourage those who’ve been previously infected to get vaccinated anyway, this is an important admission.
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It’s all pantomime anyway, since we’ve known for a long time that this is a viral disease harmless to the VAST majority of people. As we were told by our very own Prof Wittery back on 11 May 2020:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg
Except – antibodies are not the first line of defence against respiratory viruses where the initial battle is on the mucosa of the nasopharynx inside mucosal cells invaded by the virus where it reproduces and cannot be reached by antibodies. It is cytotoxic T cells launched by immune response to the virus which destroys the invaded cells that matter. It is only when the virus becomes systematic that antibodies can kill them, but by then viral load is high, symptoms present, and the subject is infectious. This is precisely why the mRNA pseudo-vaccines have failed.
It is why we don’t already have vaccines against respiratory viruses – including the four other coronaviruses which cause 10% of Colds – and why ‘flu vaccines are largely ineffective.
Prior to March 2020 this was medical knowledge.
It still is, but it doesn’t suit the narrative.
The proposition that infection would not provide natural immunity was deeply unscientific, if not actually anti-science.
It never passed the laugh test.
The whole point of inoculation/vaccination is to inject a (hopefully) harmless agent into the body for the purpose of provoking an immune response that would protect from infection.
If infection by the disease does not provide natural immunity, then there is absolutely no scientific basis for inoculation/vaccination.
One wonders whether Javid is going to argue the toss with the ONS like he did with the anaesthetist doctor.
what can one expect from an institution that in the same paragraph claims that double vaccination decreases the chance on infection by 67%?
Compared to what? The question is what is the risk in the first place? Reducing an insignificant risk by 67% is still insignificant. Risk reduction on a 1 in 3 million risk, reduces it to 1 in 1 million. So what?
Risk of death from the virus across the population is 0.00132%. Since the risk in the first place is near zero, reducing it further is meaningless.
As for ‘the vulnerable’ their risk of death is near 100% from other medical conditions, reducing the risk from one thing just leaves the others. It’s like jumping off the top of a skyscraper wearing a crash helmet to reduce the risk of death from head injuries.
suggestion: you actually read the article before commenting?
So all those who resisted the coercion because they had had Covid were right ….. and they will have zero damage from the gene therapies.
When is the Government going to admit that they deliberately risked the long-term health of people who did not need their monkey jab?
A great outcome but not sure what this test is telling people? It looks like a primer for a booster?
People should only have antibodies when they need them. As explained simply by Sucharit Bhakdi, your body produces antibodies when it needs them, as a response. We don’t all wonder around fully charged with antibodies for everything. We get exposed to an infection and react to it based on previous exposure and overal health.
Correct. We react based on previous exposure whether natural or vaccine, and that’s the problem with these viruses which mutate rapidly and diversely, when we encounter later generations our immune system is imprinted on the original antigen and pumps out immune agents geared to the original one which have no effect on the new one.
This is what we have observed with Omicron and we know (but ignore) from prior experience with other respiratory viruses.
Not so according to the retired scientists. See a popular video of Dr Yeadon wearing glasses and still recognisable. It may be true of the injections but it’s one of a few flaws.
The denial of the superiority of natural post infection has always been deeply anti-science.
The entire point of inoculation/vaccination is to safely imitate a harmless infection in order to provoke the body’s natural immune response.
If infection cannot provide post-infection immunity, then there is no rational or scientific basis for vaccination.
Well put. If only you hadn’t posted it after the death of the Age of Reason.
The denial was to increase sales of the mRNA jollop.
‘Jollop’ – I like that word.
U.K. Government Admits Natural Immunity is Stronger Than Vaccine Immunity – after two years of vaccine deception, administrative incompetence, and a general all-round screwing over of UK citizens. Now, when will members of this government turn themselves in for investigation and/or the stocks?
Sticks? I have rope in mind.
Later. Stocks first – much more fun. Plus a barrel of tar and some chicken feathers and a lot of tomatoes (preferably ones in a tin).
My 75 year old aunt texted me last night to tell me she and my uncle tested positive for Covid. I drove to their house at 12:30 AM and dropped off Ivermectin pills, HCQ, zinc, and Quercetin. She told me today her fever came down and that I may have saved her life. Uncle is feeling great. This is considered a negative outcome by the cabal. They would prefer my family dead. Their evil is no longer a theory and very much a reality. You can get your ivm by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com
Lovely of you that you’ve finally admitted it.
Now, can we stop jabbing minors and refugees with this untested shite?
:))))) It’s official: MAJOR FARCE based on a test that can’t even detect infections, suported by the UBER shity Corman-Drosten protocol. Wise ppl could see that coming for 2 years. Jail is not enough for that Rona crowd.
So glad I held out and have got my lovely natural immunity.
Sadly none of the people I love have got theirs. If only they had done the same.
Just wait for the Ukrainians to re-introduce tuberculosis!
Already here – courtesy of ‘visitors’ from France.
My other half received a snotty text message from the NHS today. It said that their records show he has only had 1 jab (true – he had one a year ago as he thought he wouldn’t be able to do things without it; but he has since woken up!), so he needs to book more.
He’s deleted it and is ignoring it.
They are still jolly determined to JAB EVERYONE!!!
As an aside – I wonder if the Ukrainian refugees that people are being urged to take into their homes will have to be triple jabbed first? No jab, no lodgings?
I’m uncertain about that ‘determined’. It’s probably some functionaries’ job to send out reminders to semi-jabbed. If they didn’t do it, they’d either be reprimanded or not have a job.
I’ve not had a remonstrance yet and I’ve had a magnificent zero jabs, so perhaps it’s only the partially-jabbed that trigger a message?
The EU is already making the bioweapon injection a condition of being given refuge or a 3 x weekly PCR test.
Breaking the Geneva Convention, UNESCO Universal Declaration of Bioethics & Human Rights, Nuremburg Code….
Can’t treat a PoW that badly!
You can on humanitarian grounds apparently. Use The Farce, Luke.
Uptake of the jabs has fallen off for evident reasons – they don’t work for example – and the have millions of unused doses near expiry so they are desperate to unload them and avoid embarrassing Daily Mail headlines about millions of wasted vaccines.
If they’d only been purchased for ”public health” concerns – then they could be just as well thrown in the bin. But they’ve got a much more useful purpose, which is why they must be used ”properly” and logged to show it.
Proof of recovery from Covid certificates (valid 6 months in the EU) are not valid for entry into the UK.
And they claim this is about “health”.
It is about making money – you take their ‘vaccines’ which are paid for from your taxes, and from which they get backhanders – or you are designated ‘unvaccinated’ and punished.
Article referenced in letter linked here
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01721-6
The estimated mean time from second vaccination to antibody measurements reaching levels associated with 67% protection was 55–86 days for ChAdOx1-vaccinated participants without prior infection
For BNT162b2, the estimated mean durations were 161–227 days
For unvaccinated participants infected previously, using a model of antibody declines after natural infection16, the duration from diagnosis to the level associated with 67% protection was estimated to be 1–2 years (!!!!!!)
The graph here tells the full story
oof LFA-1 as yet another receptor for SARS-COV2 entry to add to the list?
ACe2
Neuropilin 1
AXL
ASGR1
KREMEN1
Heparan Sulfate
CD147
DCL-SIGN
L-SIGN
MR
MGL
Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors via gp120 motif
Low Density Lipoprotein Receptor Protein 1 (LRP1)
LFA-1
h/t @BillyBostickson
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41392-022-00919-x
This will take some unpicking. Biology isn’t as simple as the cartoon version sold to us by the government and big pharma.
On a first read through, it’s just another reason (to add to the plethora of other papers) why the mRNA jabs don’t work.
now Whity and the sage doom masters have gone a different narrative is creeping through.
I wonder why that is.
This new variant is something to “keep an eye on” just in case things go quiet over Ukraine.
So did they lie to us? Or were they lied to by liers? Or was it a malevolent plan to coerce the CRETINOUS into accepting an untested cytotoxin that will potentially end their lives prematurely in the month’s and year’s to come…(rhetorical)
Given that they’re all bullshitters or charlatans (or both), why worry which definition is more accurate? The effect on most of the public has been the same.
Diamond by name
I said this to someone a yr ago, got called a “reality denier”
oh I did laugh.
Sceptics now: clutching our bellies in laughter.
Injectionists now: clutching their chests in pain.
Who would ever have thought that the human immune system would treat covid precisely the same as it has err, dealt with every other upper respiratory virus it has encountered over millennia.
Got to hand it to the virus researchers though, bits of HIV and a 19 sequence nucleotide (and patented by Moderna) never seen before presented a bit of a challenge but nature triumphs. Quelle surprise.
Why is this not headline news 24/7 – and the fact that the bastards who created this should be strung up and ALL “research” biolabs destroyed.
Add another one to the “conspiracy theory that is actually right” list.
yes
do people who were called conspiracy theorists 6 months ago get an apology now?
Oof this is a big admission. What a shame it’s no longer relevant to the designated emergency.
Antibodies are NOT a corrolate for immunity against SARS COV-2, period.
Natural immunity develops antibodies to >39 different epitopes, mRNA Transfection develops antibodies to a single epitope.
A trillion antiboides from vaccination is not the same as a trilion antibodies from natural infection, this is the myth they use to sell a defective, dangerous, gene transfection.
Natural immunity also develops different types of immune cells, macrophages, Natural Killer Cells, Dendritic cells, CD8+ T cells etc. to every epitope these are NOT devolped fromthe mRNA transfection. These cells are directed to the site of infection, in the mucus membranes.
When the site of infection is all over the body via transfection throughout the bloodstream the immune system has no clue where the infection is, and goes haywire trying to direct immune cells to the site of infection.
Had the flu-like covid symptoms back in Feb 2020 – lasted 3/4 days before making a full recovery – never had a thing since – none of the variants … nothing. I’ve never had the jabs either and yet every single one of my friends and relations who have been double/triple jabbed have all had never-ending bouts of cold-like symptoms along with other jab related problems ranging from an endless recurrence of cold-sores, skin rashes, headaches, shivers, fevers and in one case double vision whilst driving.
Glad I never had the jab … thank you Mike Yeadon.
A friend my age (68) who follows ‘medical orthdoxy’ a bit more than me has had a chronic sore throat for three months. Apparently his BP medication has also been giving new side-effects which weren’t there before 2021.
Why do people trust the NHS on anything after the past two years?
I had all the symptoms in January 2020 – was sick for at least a week, but tested negative for the flu. I have never tested positive since. I too suspect I had antibodies and acquired natural immunity – two months before the first official case in my state.
Good grief, there is actually a National Statistician. Where’s he been hiding?
Under the arses of SAGE
Sadly, the inference I draw from that is that the “top-up” to the “booster” to the “full course” will shortly need a “refresh”.
They’re going to need a bigger thesaurus.
cashing in before the big fraud case!
Yes, it would appear they would like to quantify and therefore justify how many boosters will be required to provide a similar level of protection to the unvaccinated-but-recovered cohort. 2 additional boosters? 3? 5? 10? Every 4 months for a year? Two years? Ten? “And the lemmings will follow …”