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Vaccination, Masks, Two Weeks of Quarantine and Three Negative Tests Fail to Keep Covid Off Island

by Will Jones
31 January 2022 6:10 PM

The Daily Sceptic reported recently on the plight of Kiribati, a remote island nation in the Pacific Ocean with a population of around 122,000, which until two weeks ago had avoided having any cases of COVID-19 at all, but following an outbreak has now imposed its first lockdown. What we didn’t know then is the detail of the extremely strict protocols the virus circumvented.

Not only were all 54 passengers on the flight fully vaccinated, masked, and tested negative for Covid three times in nearby Fiji before arrival, they had also been in pre-departure quarantine for two weeks before the flight, and were put in quarantine with additional testing when they arrived.

Despite this, two-thirds of the passengers (36 of 54) tested positive for Covid after arriving from Fiji on January 15th. This has led to the island’s first outbreak, which as of January 31st consists of 460 reported infections (and no deaths) and, despite the lockdown, is growing fast.

Kiribati declared a state of disaster and imposed the lockdown on January 22nd. A third of Kiribati citizens are fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

Paul Sacca on the Blaze notes there was a similar situation last month in Antarctica, when “nearly two-thirds of the research staff based at the Princess Elisabeth Polar Station became infected with COVID-19 despite strict health protocols in place. The workers at the Princess Elisabeth Polar Station were also fully vaccinated, took multiple PCR tests, and quarantined before arriving at the research facility”.

While the episode illustrates once more how hard it is to keep out a highly contagious respiratory virus, it also raises questions about how it got through. It’s hard to discern what exactly happened. How, after weeks of quarantine and multiple tests did a plane rock up at the airport and two thirds of passengers go on to test positive? Did one passenger have a strangely long incubation period and infect the others on the flight? Or was there some laxness in the application of the rules?

Either way, it underlines the pointlessness of restrictions on travel, including testing, privileges for the vaccinated and the requirement to mask, which are just costly inconveniences that deter travel and achieve nothing.

Stop Press: Ryanair has said it expects masks on flights to remain for years to come as “a small price to pay” to avoid other restrictions. Depressing stuff.

Tags: LockdownTestingTravel quarantineTravel RestrictionsVaccine efficacy

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

Viruses are all around us, in the atmosphere and in animals.

Absolutely pointless to try to mitigate against a virus that has minimal health concerns.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Remember the Diamond Princess? That should have told everyone that it was a nothing burger.

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Margaret
Margaret
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Yes, the tables in the dining rooms were so close together, you were practically sitting on someone else’s knee at dinner!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

The Diamond Princess taught showed us almost everything we needed to know about Covid before it even properly arrived in Europe.
All it didn’t show was that Covid would hardly affect the pre-geriatric population at all.

Last edited 3 years ago by karenovirus
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Paul_Somerset
Paul_Somerset
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes it did.

Of the 3,711 people aboard Diamond Princess on the 20 January cruise, 1,045 were crew and 2,666 were passengers.[80] The median age of the crew was 36 while the median age of the passengers was 69.[80] The passengers were 55% female and the crew was 81% male.[80] Of the 712 infections, 145 occurred in crew and 567 occurred in passengers.

All the dead were older passengers; none were from the crew.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

Wiki tells us that but I was trying to keep things simple although point taken, I should have said ‘youngsters’.
As I recall the media had no interest in the crew at the time, just all the old people sadlidying.

Being female incidentally is an advantage against Covid mortality so that goes against the gist of your argument.

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Correct. Late march 20202 when the DP data came in was the moment I stopped worrying and thought what the hell is all this panic about?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

The media had an early but half hearted attempt to label domestic moggie as ‘super carriers’ but then thought better of it.
I expect the government are holding them as a last ditch reserve to threaten the elderly when all else has failed to keep them in line.

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MizakeTheMizan
MizakeTheMizan
3 years ago

The Globalists want us to stop flying. Ryan Air is willing to fall on it’s sword to help.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

Deleting maniac post

Last edited 3 years ago by karenovirus
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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

HEAR! HEAR!

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Is that an attempt at REGEX?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

No, more like to avoid suspicious of insanity

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

as can be seen in your local supermarket it won’t stop the flock.

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Drew63
Drew63
3 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

I think it’s unfair to point fingers at Ryanair. It seems likely that ALL commercial airlines will probably keep mask mandates in place for the foreseeable future. The commercial aviation complex has figured out that passengers already tolerate an immense amount of “security theatre” malarky. What’s one more indignity added to the immense list we already endure?

The only way these people will learn their lesson is if passengers stay away in droves. And it’s difficult for me to predict if that will play out. The wider British public has been effectively cut off from their holidays to Spain, Florida, and Thailand etc. for the best part of two years. So there is probably quite a lot of pent-up demand.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

I imagine that muzzles will increasingly be worn under the chin, and only enforced by the occasional Korona Karen screeching dementedly. Most airport “security” is just theatre anyway.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

The most amusing and very public Airline humiliation must be when passengers divest themselves of all their stuff to go through X-Ray and are obliged to put it all in a pathetic little plastic tub in exactly the same way as visitors to prisons are forced to do in an attempt to stop them feeding smack to their skank.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  MizakeTheMizan

Ryan Air can’t have much of a business plan left, the execa might as well gain a few brownie points on their way out.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

The proportion not infected seems consonant with estimates of natural pre-immunity.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Catch me travelling anywhere withRyanair, even if they offer to pay me to do so.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Weighanchor Ryanair. Off you Flock.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  X - In Search of Space

Weighanchor, used in this sense, has a silent ‘ay’.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  X - In Search of Space

Oh the ingenuity to avoid “the swear filter”. Love it.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Yes, I was quite impressed with that comment though you might note that we must now merely avoid profanity.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago

Pureblooods aren’t wcome on Ryanair

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paul smith
paul smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Nor are people who actually enjoy air travel.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Such people will never go near Ryanair.

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Nitrambo
Nitrambo
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Is any air travel enjoyable these days ? I personally do not like being treated like cattle.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  Nitrambo

Campervan for us. Ferries are havens of normal folk going barefaced, who know and recognise all this sh*te for exactly what it is. In other words, Romanians, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Poles, Russians, Turks, Albanians – and truckers. You get the picture. People, in short, who have never stopped travelling and have never been afraid.

The last time we were on a ferry was Calais-Dover in September just gone. Irish Ferries’s new route. The staff were the only people wearing masks, “half mast” as it were, and were all from the Baltic States. Talked to loads of them – they all knew it was bullsh*t but said the captain and the purser (weirdly) were forcing them to wear the face nappies. Not sure what “to force” meant in this context.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I used to love ferries, sometimes getting several in a year; Dover-Calais or overnight Plymouth-Santander equally atmospheric, not forgetting the Scottish lochs and islands.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I’m not surprised, Pursers are a cross between Traffic Wombles and Gringotts goblins.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

,

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Nitrambo

It’s not how they imagined it would be.

OMG Susan.png
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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Thank you, I needed a laugh this evening.

As it happens I’m of an age where I don’t consider myself to be properly abroad unless I’ve been on a boat or a ship to get there. Flying is merely cheating, as for the Channel Tunnel, I’d rather stay at home.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Nitrambo

That was the general idea when air travel allegedly reopened for hoi polloi.

I recall making the following comment when pups reopened after Lockdown One which was the prototype.

Pub goers were supposed to be so pleased but a quick glance at the new restrictions made it clear that bozo/hancoc had consulted with Alcohol Concern to design a pub regime that was so flippin’ miserable why would anyone bother to go?
The Great British public were blamed for the permanent closure of thousands of pubs using ‘cowardice in the face of Covid’ even though we told them pubs were now safe.

As an aside, boozers were also pleasantly surprised that pubs reopened before schools but that was designed to make them hostages to fortune.
The government got the media to concoct a specious link between pubs staying reopened and schools remaining closed

“you getting pissed is more important than our kids education is it?”

when they wanted to look all stern and responsible.

Last edited 3 years ago by karenovirus
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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Do people enjoy air travel?

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

My mate Mark who came down to London from Beverley with three ‘O’ Leves yet ten years later was frequently being collected from our local by his employers chauffeur to go flying off to Hamburg or Chigago used to say that anyone who claims not to be thrilled by flying is either brain dead or a flipping liar.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

He was talking bollox because he had a very limited experience and imagination.

Flying in big jets is tiresome.

Going up in a small prop plane and then jumping out is thrilling.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

UK to Europe might be fun, but my one and only international flight was from Perth to Los Angeles. This entailed an overnight plane to Brisbane next to a talkative gent, five hours wandering around Brisbane airport for five hours – talk about being stuck in the Twilight Zone – and then another fifteen hours across the Pacific. I was a zombie for the first three days.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Last time I had to do Glasgow to central London, I took the train because it was slightly more suitable for humans, and literally only a few minutes slower end-to-end.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

I used to when you could smoke, I usually travel lomg haul and it is not a joy any more

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

Either way, it underlines the pointlessness of restrictions on travel, including testing, privileges for the vaccinated and the requirement to mask, which are just costly inconveniences that deter travel and achieve nothing.

That’s what the NWO, WEF, WHO, TPTB, WTF, and TIZWAS all want you to do: stay at home. If you must have a holiday, go to Hull; leave all the nice places for the new master race.

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crosscat
crosscat
3 years ago

Maybe the flight crew had it?

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  crosscat

BINGO

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago
Reply to  crosscat

You may find private jet pilots flying the tptb and politicians somehow never test positive…

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  crosscat

My money would be on some minimum wage cleaner – who either showed up or didn’t get paid – coofing out a whole cabin-full just before the passengers got on.

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Air conditioning unit acting as a reservoir? Passengers exposed to virus, that is unavoidable, but not infected and definitely not infectious. During flight in a closed environment viral state changes from exposure to infection.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago

More evidence Dan Sirotkin (original DRASTIC researcher) got it right with viral swarm hypothesis.

So as Pigpen has been trying to warn humanity for decades, each of us

carries around the quasispecies swarm of whatever airborne viruses we

host whether we notice it or not. Pretty much no one reading this would

be diagnosed with influenza right now, but take enough healthy readers

and stick them in a closed environment for a long enough time – and the

swarm always wins. 

This was demonstrated most clearly on an Antarctic research base after seventeen weeks of complete isolation.

This mysterious outbreak struck half of the dozen men isolated at the

bottom of the world, and strangely scientists were never able to isolate

and identify the causative agent:

“Found

no diagnostic rises in antibody titre against influenza viruses A and

B, mumps, adenovirus, herpes simplex and ornithosis. All attempts at

virus isolation from throat, nose and faeces swabs were unsuccessful.”

However

this phenomenon is simply the other end of the spectrum from the

disappearance of the seasonal flu in 2020: RNA viruses have the ability

to lie dormant in their hosts until a threshold of transmission events

are reached following interactions with swarms from other hosts, at

which point they can strengthen and create symptomatic infections. And

since every human adult alive has been exposed to the common cold, stick

a dozen guys in a closed environment for long enough, and even that

swarm will grow and strengthen. 

https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/azraels-inoculation-against-a-hardened

The hypothesis is explored in other posts on his substack too, often rather long winded posts, but very interesting non the less. Implications for the 2 year genetic time leap for Omicron should be an obvious fit too.

twitter links to hidden tweet, I think it links to this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2130424/

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Just wot I sed right at the start, what. Viruses are in us all the time.

Last edited 3 years ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I tried to highlight this hypothesis at Off-G back in May last year as being a bridge between germ and terrain theory (which seems obvious to me) but I got shadowbanned for my trouble!

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paul smith
paul smith
3 years ago

Depressing?
Hardly.
…it’s hilarious.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Not so much for the victims now living under a pointless regime of home internment.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

This plus the bizarre case of the outbreak in the Antarctic should make the scientific community question the fundamental principles of viruses and how they spread, which we take for granted but must clearly be mistaken.

Apart from the obvious tragedy of the madness we have descended into because of this virus craziness, the greater tragedy is that we may not seize the opportunity to advance what seems to be our very limited understanding of the microbial world.

We will probably labour on under the same assumptions, because there is a massive pharma industry printing money based on those assumptions, knowing full well we are very mistaken about the fundamentals.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I suspect they weren’t vaccinated enough.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

As Israel is demonstrating, four jabs is clearly not enough. I reckon we need to smack doses 5 and 6 in right now, then pump 7, 8, 9 and 10 in once a week thereafter.

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

there was a link here to a young doctor a few months back where she mentioned how they’d actively tried to infect prisoner volunteers with flu during the Spanish outbreak and failed miserably.
Wouldn’t surprise me if we are all carrying a multitude of viruses around with us until something triggers them to start doing their thing.

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Stephensceptic
Stephensceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Fully agree. Increasingly agree with Tom Cowan and Dr Sam Bailey: they argue that viruses have never been shown to cause anything. The test finds DNA particles that may be a consequence of illness as much as a cause. The root cause of the illness known as Covid is not understood.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Stop press: Why was I still the only person in Tesco this evening sans mask?? What is going on? Maybe, like Ryan Air they think it’s a small price to pay. But pay for what? Answers on a non fungible postcard token.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I put it down to an epidemic of self loathing, which the modern world has promoted relentlessly in myriad ways.

People who wear masks are subconsciously eager to reduce themselves to obedient serfs of the state They have so little self esteem they crave for their individual identities to be wiped out and merged with the bigger identity of the state, which they happily want to serve.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

A kind of bastardised Buddhism?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Ooh that’s an interesting take. Doubt they’ll find nirvana in a bacteria ridden crisis prop though.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I can’t disagree with any of that.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

You live in a privileged part of the world, crisisgarden. Here in my deprived area of Leeds, not a mask to be seen (OK, the odd bedwetter).

Still, it’s sad that people have taken them off only cos Boris the Benevolent has told them they can, but hey ho.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

You’re not wrong. Middle class, older demographic; bed wetter central! It’s been perhaps one of the most infuriating (and humorous) places to spend a plandemic.

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Zionist
Zionist
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I was in a large Morrisons this morning during the hours when most shoppers are elderly and about 30-40 per cent were maskless, a lot more than on Friday and Saturday.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

That’s encouraging, I feel like I live on that famous Japanese island who didn’t realise the war was over until years later.

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Chris_uk
Chris_uk
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I was in a large shopping centre today and it was thoroughly depressing to see so many masks. Why were people so happy to put them on when the government told them to, but refuse to take them off when the government tells them to?

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

Why were people so happy to put them on when the government told them to, but refuse to take them off when the government tells them to?

My thoughts as well.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  X - In Search of Space

Most people live in a perpetual state of anxiety. It’s quite low-level, but it’s there, and they don’t know it. Bills to pay, lack of purpose, the feeling that life isn’t much fun, etc etc. Having a focus, a “problem” to “solve” with simple, prescribed measures is a kind of therapy. It distracts them momentarily from their anxiety – anxiety which they cannot understand.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

My wife’s been telling me I seem depressed now that I’m not living under the existential fear of an imminent fascist totalitarian takeover. I might need to start having some other interests again… 🤔 Now what was it I used to like doing?

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Similar feelings here, CG. Managed to get myself motivated today, did some good work. But the fight isn’t over – not just because it’s never over, but because I believe this is a reprieve. See what happens after the masses have been allowed their summer holidays…

I know the Coronavirus Act 2020 had a 24 month limit. That’s why it’s ending 24th March. But they’ll bring in another “Act” which will give them even more Emergency Powers. Call me pessimistic, but I just can’t relax. Not now.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

That’s exactly how I feel. We now have to endure this new period of gaslighting where people will be saying “See, it wasn’t a conspiracy, it all over now!” When the CV Act is dead, the quackcines are publicly discredited, and the perpetrators are clapped in irons I’ll move on!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Don’t worry – the fascists will be back with their next innovation before too long. Will it be a new scariant? Will they go even further and “find” a deadly new virus which will lay waste to the world? We don’t know, but it’s unlikely that they will give up.

And the sheeple will fall in line when the scarenongering ramps up again…

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  X - In Search of Space

Isn’t it the very definition of Stockholm syndrome?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

Sign of a successful fear campaign. Wonder how long they’ll keep it up for? Oh yes, until they become mandatory again.

Last edited 3 years ago by crisisgarden
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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

The government told them that, while (futile) attempts to fine people for not wearing a mask were abandonded, it’s still strongly recommended to wear them.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

Coz they have been brainwashed and/or are thick.

Take yer pick

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Menckenitis
Menckenitis
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I have an ex-friend whose last words to me were ‘my wife and I have consulted the NHS and our GP and have decided to do the socially-responsible thing’. I realised at that point that, sadly, we no longer had anything significant in common.

The herd mentally of the human species beggars belief – as in willingness to wear a mask, subject themselves to experimental gene therapies, submit to house arrest or self-harming (my current term for self-isolation, which weakens the immune system through lack of social contact). On the other hand, in any group of social animals – chimpanzees, wolves etc – the alphas are a small minority, the rest are submissives. If it wasn’t like that there would probably be chaos.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Menckenitis

Oh I know plenty of those types!! Generally Guardian readers, who now feel it’s up to them to continue the pandemic even when the government’s lost interest.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Likewise. At work they are still requesting that everyone wears face nappies when walking around the offices. I made my feelings known when this was announced last week…

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Because you have your faculties intact.I did a Nursing shift yesterday No Mask No Test I Nursed a group 5 patients who were c positive and symptomless of course and tripped jabbed.The care staff looked on aghast I broke the spell regardless they could not see the patently obvious contradictions at play.

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Margaret
Margaret
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

OH and I put shops into the following categories according to the numbers of mask wearing clientele:
City of the damned
Town of the damned
Village of the damned
Hamlet of the damned.

Thankfully around here, more shops are falling into the last two categories as time goes on. It took a few weeks for masks to be dropped after July 19th if you remember?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

My entire middle class northern town be damned! 👹

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I can sort of understand the people who still have the N95 ones on; they’re clearly labouring under a mistaken scientific understanding of air and contagion. But I saw quite a few with the same makeshift ones on; Buffs pulled over the face, flowery fabric ones, polka dot, leopard print etc. How many levels of mistaken understanding are they labouring under? Wanting to appear as though you’re doing something patently futile is next level silly.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

My favorite so far was an elderly gentleman who had wrapped a woollen scarf around the mouth and nose.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

It’s very sad isn’t it. I saw an elderly lady in my town with one made out of a pair of tights.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I remember that. It’s the original Trisha Greenhalgh How to ensure that nobody mistakenly believes you might not be an idiot!-protocol. Also very innovative.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

That protocol seems to be a universal virus mitigation strategy.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

How much did she get away with in the heist?

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I think some see the masks as a form of fashion accessory. It’s pitiful.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Sheesh. Do you want to tell them or should I?

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

But if it’s a ‘Let’s go Brandon’ mask they’ll tel you to remove it, like on a flight.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Full disclosure, I bought (but never used) a bunch of FFP3 respirators in early March 2020, “responsibly stockpiling” just before the panic buying set in. Anything less than FFP2 or N95 is indeed just theatre in terms of protecting you, and nothing protects anyone else.

I’d actually have more respect for someone in a full cannister respirator and noddy suit than the fashionistas.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago



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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Tried many times to post, no success, just as well, new nonsense but within new rules.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Good effort; have a star.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

News Alert: New Embarrassing Variant of COVID-19 Discovered in Canada

Justin Trudeau has come down with a new strain of COVID-19, which is known as the Shitty-underpants variant. And is isolating deep underground.

The Shitty-underpants variant is being spread across Canada by truck drivers. To date, it’s the most embarrassing variant of COVID-19, and mostly infects politicians.

Those infected quickly develop steaming symptoms that manifest in the upper leg and buttocks areas. These symptoms are usually accompanied by a foul smell, along with a watery brown effluent flowing from the ill person’s trouser legs onto their shoes.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago

I won’t be flying anywhere whilst masks remain on flights. I accept the very real possibility that I may never fly again.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Me neither. Or rather, I’m perfectly happy to wear face mask for the safety of the cabin crew if these are all in underpants and wearing oversized wellingons.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

I’m with you. Can’t bring demean myself to put one on, ever.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

A cross-border trucker unity rally in Alberta Canada, a show of support for their brothers in Ottawa, has triggered the ire of Alberta Premier Jason Kenney. Apparently, when government officials lock down their citizens, the complaining voices of the people are irrelevant. However, when the tables are turned and the people lock down the government highway in protest, the state officials don’t like it.

Go figure.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

The extremely simple explanation for this is They are not quarantining air. From a biological warfare point of view, all of these COVID protocols are nothing but jokes. Sars-CoV2 came on the same plane as the travellers. While these were duly incarcerated, following president Xi’s innovative How to shoot yourself in the foot while making an extremely clever-looking face-protocol, the virus itself just entered on its own over their heads.

Last edited 3 years ago by RW
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

They are not quarantining air.
Oh God don’t give them any ideas.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

They aren’t having any. Once upon a time in the past, I was a conscript serving on a German frigate designed for cold war requirements. That included being capable of operating in areas contaminated due to use of ABC-weapons (atomic, biological, chemical — these terms have presumably meanwhile fallen a little out of fashion). This meant airtight doors, air decontamination and overpressure inside of the ship.

In contrast to this, I bet these islanders just allowed the plane doors to be openend and then walked the passengers to their quarantine facilities.

Last edited 3 years ago by RW
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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

As an ex research scientist in the field of electron microscopy I understand small and numerous (doing maths whilst doing a science degree).

To give you some idea how small a virus is take a hair off your head and try and imagine something a thousand times smaller, thats the size of a virus. There are about 70 billion trillion stars in the universe, if you divided the number of viruses on earth by the number of stars in the universe each star would have about 100 million viruses.

Viruses are found all around you, in the bottom of the oceans, in the atmosphere, in the earth everywhere. They travel from continent to continent in the upper atmosphere.

And that dear readers is why I believe you cannot fight a virus but you can only live with them. After all they mutate and quickly burn themselves out and a new variant/s will arise.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Something which helped me grasp the truly tiny size of airborne respiratory viruses was this: in a room in your house, even with all its doors and windows closed, the virus may never reach the floor.

Last edited 3 years ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Look up Brownian motion, it’s why molecules and small particles move randomly, because everything vibrates and they interact with each other. (Like how a table tennis ball would interact with millions of tuning forks).

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

How does opening doors and windows help a virus to reach the floor?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

If I pull a woollen scarf over the lower half of my face, do you think that will keep them out though?

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Of course. It’s only logical. Like my back yard gate keeps ants out of my back yard.

Oh, and yes, I forgot, during exercise we humans exhale out about 80 millilitres of virus-laden fluid every hour. But don’t worry, it ALL gets caught and safely disposed of down the nearest drain by those wonderful masks. It certainly does NOT find its way into the air. No way, Jose.

Last edited 3 years ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

In the summer, I always put a sign up in the garden saying NO MIDGES. It’s 95% effective, surprised no one else has tried this.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Brilliant. Now all we need is for the signs to be mandated and their production nationalised.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

I still get bitten. But I blame people who are too selfish to put up signs like I do.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Maybe the sign should read BLACK FLIES MATTER?

Or BLACK FLIES DON’T MATTER.

Gettin a bit confused now

Last edited 3 years ago by Marcus Aurelius knew
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Aurelius knew

Anything as long as it’s not ‘all flies matter’. They don’t.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Wahay! 🙂

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Deleted (messed up my attempt at being funny).

Last edited 3 years ago by X - In Search of Space
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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Yeah sure thing, but with all due respect you’re not really adding to the debate, we all know viruses are quite smallish, that’s why it’s vitally important to wear a proper mask made in China, and not just any old scarf etc.

Last edited 3 years ago by CovidiotAntiMasker
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  CovidiotAntiMasker

We need the late Douglas Adams to describe how small they are.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Small. Like really, really small.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Shit, that means they can get through small gaps beneath doors, or through largish keyholes then 🙁

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  X - In Search of Space

Yes I’m afraid so. They’re the teeniest tiniest infinitesimal little specks of barely anything in the universe. You could fit fifteen trillion trillion of them on the point of the pointiest pin in the world and still have room left over. (Brian Cox)

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago

Cases or tests…. Anyone made the light bulb moment that it might be the ‘effin tests?

And on a lighter note. That’s Ryanair off my list of carriers.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

They could use part of a defunct airline name and rebrand as: TWA Tours.

Last edited 3 years ago by X - In Search of Space
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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago

Even 4 months wouldn’t have been enough quarantine time

An outbreak of common colds at an Antarctic base after seventeen weeks of complete isolation (nih.gov)

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

“ Last week a lawyer for military personnel spoke about the extraordinary rise in medical conditions that occurred after vaccination against Covid.” 

Game-changer: US Military Data shows shockingly high vaccination injuries « JoNova (joannenova.com.au)

  • myocardial infarction –269% increase
  • Bell’s palsy – 291% increase
  • congenital malformations (for children of military personnel) – 156% increase
  • female infertility – 471% increase
  • pulmonary embolisms – 467% increase
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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Thanks for posting, I had forgotten about this. So the OP added to this one, for me just confirms what was unthinkable only 6 months ago. That viruses as in GERM THEORY (n.b. THEORY), cannot be the causative agent.

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cloud6
cloud6
3 years ago

We always knew that the Rona was smart and clever ( Kiribati outbreak), an enemy you cannot defeat, you will have to live with it, as you do with other viruses and illnesses. Treatment will mitigate, but will not cure.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  cloud6

I’m not getting out of my Perspex box until the rona is defeated!

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Perspex box, be blowed. It’s the Pandora’s Boxes that vex me.

Last edited 3 years ago by Hopeless - "TN,BN"
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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago

piddly island huge population, it was not viable. they’d have starved if covid19 had not solved their problems, guess why Anglesey is not independent?

Last edited 3 years ago by lordsnooty
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

It is a very small island. What do you mean though?

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

And what the heck has it to do with Anglesey?

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago

If anything this piddly island amplifies our concerns about climate preservation (for that is my new name ) if we preserve the climate in something like its current state, we can afford to bale out piddly islands like kiribati, else we will be too busy baling out our own towns and cities. So let’s hear it for climate preservation! I got nothing against it.A reasonable goal is to control climate close to it’s present state, who can complain over that? We do not need to reverse change, we merely need to constrain where it stray, perhaps….

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

If this is satire I love it!

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bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
3 years ago

Not that I have any interest in going on Ryanair. But what “science” are they employing to justify their mask mandate ? And what does their risk assessment say ?

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  bringbacksanity

Their usual, scientific method is probably Thou shalt not anger the crew unions lest thine flight will remain grounded.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

I have not changed my view since the last time this appeared on DS – dodgy testing.

And the dodgy testing has been employed in order to force a lockdown on the island. The Davos Deviants are either having a bit of fun or carrying out some warped experiment.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago

This is interesting especially considering the Antarctic as well. Makes you think we really have no clue how viruses really behave or maybe even how they arise. Certainly shows NPI’s are pointless.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

We really don’t have a clue about viruses. It feels analogous to when we thought the sun revolved around the earth.

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lumina
lumina
3 years ago

Is it me, or does no one in the media question why the very safe and effective masking and vaccination s are not doing their job? Very curious that, almost as if there were a huge elephant in the room or something. Hey ho, oh and what about Malta eh?
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago

Same story at mines in Western Australia.
The strict protocols and screening regimes have allowed the sector to operate uninterrupted through the pandemic.
In other words, everyone’s vaxxed to the max.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

After seeing that its own restrictions have failed, and that draconian measures in other countries have failed, this silly little country decides to emulate the big boys. International Groupthink at its ludicrous best.

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4PureBlood
4PureBlood
3 years ago

They test for the flu since they’ve never isolated Covid-19. Which makes me wonder how they can tell there is a delta variant. They never isolated the virus but they use a test to show the damage of a solution does on monkey kidney cells then show the cellular debris as proof of the virus. So, they can use this method to claim an UNENDING! amount of variants. A lot of cancers and “viruses” are probably just different forms of parasites. Since the tests can’t differentiate between cold and flu and covid then doesn’t that mean ivermectin cures both the cold and the flu? Welcome to “they’ve been lying to us our entire lives about everything”. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmcures.com

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

The CCP reported back in March 2020, and confirmed in September, that the Chinese Virus was viable in air for up to 8 hours, which is another thing that makes muzzle theatre so farcical.

It’s peak irony to consider one plague rat cleaner – who doubtless only gets paid if they show up, what with having a real job – coofing out enough virus to infect the next flight, or bus, or tube train.

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ProudGirl
ProudGirl
3 years ago

Wee always knew that the Rona was smart and clever ( Kiribati outbreak), an enemy you cannot defeat, you will have to live with it, as you do with other viruses and illnesses. Treatment will mitigate, but will not cure.

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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
3 years ago

Let us then recap what we know with a very high degree of certainty:

  1. Quarantines e.g. lockdowns, do not work;
  2. Face masks do not work;
  3. “Vaccines” do not work;
  4. The PCR test does not work (for many reasons).

What is unclear in the article is whether those that tested “positive” presented any symptoms. Given the fraudulent nature of the PCR test, it does not necessarily follow that any of the passengers actually had any infection.
But for arguments sake, let me assume that at least some did. That to me, suggests the whole theory (and it is still a theory) that infections are caused by random, but very intelligent, viruses floating in the air, does not align with real world observations. Consensus is utterly irrelevant to science.

“No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong.” Albert Einstein.

The time is right to question the consensus of virology and germ theory.

P.S. No virus has ever, ever, been isolated, never mind that controlled, double blind placebo tests have been conducted that PROVE viruses are disease causing agent.

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ujen
ujen
3 years ago

There is a one rule for them and us operating on flights… cattle class have to wear masks all the time. Travel in business or above and a constant stream of refreshments etc allow masks to be discarded and not worn for the flight.This is not addressed by cabin crew whereas one gets a stern talking to in cattle..

Last edited 3 years ago by Isaac Phiri
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godders
godders
3 years ago

Virus will virus, do what you will.

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didymous
didymous
3 years ago

It’s quite well known that viruses can survive in the atmosphere and be carried long distances by prevailing winds (eg https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180206090650.htm and https://theconversation.com/bacteria-and-viruses-are-travelling-the-world-on-highways-in-the-sky-142854). There are even examples of outbreaks of virus borne diseases occurring virtually simultaneously in different parts of the world. So maybe this is not too surprising?

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago

This perfectly demonstrates why the correct response to the “pandemic” is, and was always, to do nothing. Virus gonna do what a virus gonna do.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

Another example of the ‘vaccinated’ bringing their problems with them.
Send them into outer space and you’d still get an outbreak.

Last edited 3 years ago by mishmash
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Hugh_Manity
Hugh_Manity
3 years ago

SarsCov-2 is the genome that was modeled on a computer. It is a fake, a fraud, nothing but an illusion. It has been created in order to change society. Those deaths attributed to this “disease” are considered merely as collateral damage. It ranks as one of the greatest crimes against humanity.
Viruses have never been isolated (in the correct scientific way) let alone proved to cause any disease.

https://www.unite4truth.com/post/covid-19-virus-isolation-where-is-the-evidence-sars-cov2-the-trojan-horse-in-the-room

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Philipleigh
Philipleigh
3 years ago

People seem to forget that the only way you can be shown to have Covid is if you test positive with very unreliable tests. Without proper individual diagnosis the whole sham falls apart.

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4PureBlood
4PureBlood
3 years ago

They test for the flu since they’ve never isolated Covid-19. Which makes me wonder how they can tell there is a delta variant. They never isolated the virus but they use a test to show the damage of a solution does on monkey kidney cells then show the cellular debris as proof of the virus. So, they can use this method to claim an UNENDING! amount of variants. A lot of cancers and “viruses” are probably just different forms of parasites. Since the tests can’t differentiate between cold and flu and covid then doesn’t that mean ivermectin cures both the cold and the flu? Welcome to “they’ve been lying to us our entire lives about everything”. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com

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sskinner
sskinner
3 years ago

“Kiribati declared a state of disaster…”
Why?

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