Have Lockdown Sceptics Won the Argument?

Now that Covid restrictions are being rolled back, some are declaring victory over the miserable virus. Lockdowns, we are told, worked. Only a fool could argue otherwise. But this misses vital evidence.

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Now that Covid restrictions are being rolled back, various commentators are declaring victory over the miserable virus. Lockdowns, we are told, worked. Only a fool could argue otherwise.

Devi Sridhar, the Chair of Global Public Health at Edinburgh University, who was formerly an exponent of the Zero Covid strategy of completely eradicating the virus, has recently announced in the Guardian that “delaying and preventing infection as much as possible through this pandemic was a worthwhile strategy. In early 2020, there were few treatments, limited testing and no vaccines. The costs of those lockdowns were big, but the effort to buy time paid off”.

At the other end of the political spectrum, Tom Harwood of GB News says much the same. Lockdown sceptics, he writes in CapX, are “bizarrely claiming victory now that restrictions are coming to an end”. The sceptics, Harwood asserts, ignore the success of vaccines. “There is a blindingly obvious distinction between the need for non-pharmaceutical interventions amongst a non-immune population, verses [sic] one with incredibly high levels of immunity.” He points to a lower death toll from the Omicron variant which appeared after the “stupendously successful vaccine rollout”. In conclusion, Harwood writes that to “deny lockdowns worked to reduce spread is to deny logic”.

Let’s examine the logic. If lockdowns bought time for the rollout of vaccines, then we would expect fewer Covid deaths in places that locked down early and fast. That is the case in Australia and New Zealand, which early in the pandemic sealed their borders against the virus. But the trouble with this policy, as our Antipodean friends are discovering, is the difficulty of exiting. Their policy of national self-isolation has lasted nearly two years, and continues in large measure even after most of their population has been vaccinated.

By contrast, in Europe there is no evidence that lockdowns significantly reduced Covid deaths. Sweden, which never locked down, has the same number of deaths per million as Austria, which did (see chart below). It’s true that Swedish deaths ran higher somewhat earlier than Austria, but this ‘bought-time’ doesn’t appear to have changed the final tally.

The evidence from the United States points to a similar conclusion: the Covid death rate (as a share of the population) in Florida, which largely avoided lockdowns, is slightly below the U.S. national average and far below that of New York, which had (and continues to impose) relatively tough restrictions.

It’s true that mass vaccination has reduced the risk of hospitalisation and death from Covid. But lockdown exponents imply that vaccines alone are responsible for the decline in the infection fatality rate. The evidence from South Africa, whose vaccination rate is around a quarter of the European average (49 doses per 100 people versus 180, or 27%), suggests otherwise.

It appears that either Covid has evolved to become less virulent, as the South African doctors suggested back in December, or South Africa’s population has built up strong natural immunity from prior infection – a possibility overlooked by most commentators. It seems likely that both factors have played a role in reducing the virulence of the disease. Even if lockdowns had succeeded in reducing Covid deaths until the vaccine rollout that wouldn’t necessarily justify their imposition. From the start, lockdown sceptics were concerned about the collateral damage caused by closing down the economy, shuttering schools, neglecting conventional health care and forcing people to isolate in their homes for months on end. They railed in vain against the cruelty of lockdowns: mothers giving birth alone, old people dying alone or left for months without visitors in nursing homes, the damage to children’s education, funerals unattended, small businesses crushed and so forth. Finally, the public appears to waking up to these cruelties. Hence, the fury at the hypocrisy of Downing Street officials who imposed harsh rules for the nation which they didn’t scrupulously follow themselves.

Then there are lockdown’s immense financial costs. At the time, these could be ignored since governments financed them with interest-free loans from central banks. But all that money-printing is now fuelling inflation that will lead to further immiseration in the coming years. The sceptics argued that lockdowns were never subject to a proper cost-benefit analysis which took social and economic costs into account. That remains the case. Thus, not only has there been no ‘victory’ in the war on Covid – on the contrary, the highly contagious Omicron variant appears to be overcoming all attempts to constrain it  – but the argument over lockdowns has yet to be decisively won by either side, so that lockdowns are either accepted as a tool of sound public health policy or roundly condemned as a colossal mistake. The sceptics’ work continues.

Edward Chancellor is a financial journalist and the author of Devil Take the Hindmost: A History of Financial Speculation (1998).

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MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

‘It’s true that mass vaccination has reduced the risk of hospitalisation and death from Covid.’

But hospitalisation and death were made artificially high because repurposed cheap generic drugs were suppressed so as to give the deadly vaccines a clear path.

DaveNI
DaveNI
4 years ago

“The costs of those lockdowns were big, but the effort to buy time paid off””
healthcare disaster. And if there was any honesty in the appraisal of lockdown’s efficacy, they would conclude that the cost was greater than the benefit. Between the cancers left undiagnosed and incorrectly treated, the heart disease, diabetes and CKD left unmanaged, and the mental health issues across the generations, lockdowns have been an unmitigated, unacknowledged health care disaster

Tony Prince
Tony Prince
4 years ago

Harwood is another tin eared toss pot. How can we take a ‘man’ that doesn’t accept that there are biological differences between the sexes seriously? Just ignore.

PhilP
PhilP
4 years ago

How about a graph showing the Covid deaths as a percentage of population density. We just might be at the top of that table which will go to show that we’re full and don’t need any more gimmegrants.

Oscarone
Oscarone
4 years ago

“It’s true that mass vaccination has reduced the risk of hospitalisation and death from Covid”. Didn’t do this young lad much good. Died of a heart attack at the age of 12. The twelve-year-old boy who fell ill during a cross-country race died (italy24news.com) Any child over the age of 12 in Italy who wants to take part in sports activities and events has to have a Green Pass.

Misty Optic
Misty Optic
4 years ago

Comparing stats like this assumes uniform and legitimate attribution of deaths across all the countries. Yet we know countries have different interpretations and, shall we say, different approaches to the accuracy of info on death certificates.

djmo
djmo
4 years ago

Lockdowns clearly did more harm than good. Even people who don’t accept the individual liberty factor (which I consider the most important thing) don’t have any good arguments when you start talking about just some of the costs of lockdowns in human lives.

Lockdown delayed cancer research by around two years (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/london-institute-of-cancer-research-cancer-research-science-b930360.html).

Cancer kills around 9.5 million people a year (https://www.cancer.org/research/cancer-facts-statistics/global.html).

When the next breakthrough in cancer research comes, it will come two years later because of lockdown. The same goes for every subsequent breakthrough. In the meantime, 19 million people will have died of cancer.

Beefbeefbeef
Beefbeefbeef
4 years ago

I get irritated by the terms of reference about “did lockdowns work” which seem to focus on lives saved – or not. What NEVER gets considered is the massive loss of fun during lockdowns which includes a long list of family holidays missed, social events cancelled, sporting events, big marriages, laughs with old friends etc etc etc – everything that makes life worth living. These things can’t be quantified but that does not make them irrelevant. Quite the opposite. There was never any debate about this and it was the height of selfishness to assume these things could be foregone so that old Mrs Coggins might – or might not – be protected from catching covid.

djmo
djmo
4 years ago
Reply to  Beefbeefbeef

Absolutely. If a short time is all that you have left, anyone who forces the cancellation of all the things that make life worth living for most or all of that short time is taking your life, not protecting it. My grandmother has survived it through this madness, but the last months when she was capable of enjoying activities were taken from her. Families all across the country have similar (and many much worse) stories, yet so many lockdown enthusiasts who aren’t involved in the care of elderly relatives claim that they’re the ones that care about the elderly.

ChristineJ58
ChristineJ58
4 years ago
Reply to  djmo

More than a year ago, I recall reading someone on another forum relate the following: that in their town or village, here in the UK, a woman in her early 90s couldn’t cope with the (illegal) restrictions, ‘not allowed’ to see her friends, etc, and so, in the middle of the night she went out, walked into the local river, and drowned herself…
There will, of course, as you so rightly say, be many more, equally horrific, stories, around the world.

Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Beefbeefbeef

Indeed, any cost-benefit analysis has to include a massive figure on the cost side for loss of fun/liberty – anyone who doesn’t accept this is either an idiot or a lizard

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Beefbeefbeef

Erm Beef, did you not notice that Conservative party/ civil service and Downing St had over 17 parties in one year alone of lockdown and our dear leader got married and had 2 babies. So there was fun to be had, but only if you were in the right place of course….

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago

I don’t think we have won the argument at all and if we ever do it will not be in my lifetime. History is written by the victors and those victors are those who have supported lockdowns and all associated restrictions. It will always be a given that lockdowns worked and there was no alternative course of action. Despite Sweden’s (and later Florida’s) initial stance we sceptics cannot prove and can never prove that an alternative approach (ie original virus policies) would have been a better way forward.

The proper argument is that there was no pandemic in real terms but only because the WHO said so, a few years after changing the definition of what a pandemic is. Those who now admit to supporting initial lockdowns to ‘flatten the curve’ but not those that followed were fools. I knew instantly in March 2020 that it would lead to the mess we are still in now nearly two years on. It’ll be a long time before we get back to anything resembling a proper normal let alone claiming to have ‘won the argument’.

Stephanos
Stephanos
4 years ago

I am afraid I have to agree.
We will only have won the argument provided the following actions are implemented:

  1. ALL, and I do mean ALL, of the Covid restrictions are removed.
  2. There is an open acknowledgement that Lockdowns were a serious mistake; for some people this mistake has been fatal.
  3. Lockdowns and all the associated Covid nonsense are condemned and Laws are enacted to ensure that such things will NEVER happen again.
  4. The perpetrators of these crimes are brought to justice.
  5. Those people who have passively gone along with this nonsense, recognise their sin and repent. This includes a very large number of clergymen, not just the Bishops and Archbishops. The actions, or rather inactions, of all the senior clergy in all the denominations has been and is shameful.

As you have said Dave Angel Eco Warrior, I cannot see this happening in my lifetime.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Re point number 5 – sad to say I don’t think this will ever happen.

Martin Frost
Martin Frost
4 years ago

It doesn’t really matter a fig what Devi Sridhar or Tom Harwood have to say. Both have spent far too much time spouting their half-baked opinions on national tv rather than carefully studying and evaluating the evidence. It is really important that work continues on debunking the lockdown case. Otherwise useless non-pharmaceutical interventions will become the basis of all future health policy making. It is time that the quack scientists who manufactured this global panicdemic and ruined so many peoples’ lives were held to account.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

“It’s true that mass vaccination has reduced the risk of hospitalisation and death from Covid.”

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The graph below from the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) shows that those over 30-years-of-age who have received triple injections of the gene serum have far higher infection rates that those that have not received the gene serums.

Figures from the United States show that in the 12- to 20-year-old age group, cases of Myocarditis rose dramatically in 20:

2019: 4 cases

2010: 4 cases

2021: 2,236 cases 

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Here’s the graph from the UK Health Security Agency:

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“It’s true that mass vaccination has reduced the risk of hospitalisation and death from Covid.”

Fit, well, happy and healthy …
And then the jabs …

Rogerborg
Rogerborg
4 years ago

Look, if completely crippling two generations both financially and emotionally, and shredding the most basic of personal freedoms and all concepts of bodily autonomy bought just one 82 year old another 6 months of existence, it was all worth it.

RedhotScot
RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

One covid death is one too many……

kate
kate
4 years ago

In a speech delivered Sunday in Brussels, Holocaust survivor Vera Sharav described the striking parallels between what she witnessed as a child in Nazi Germany, and COVID policies being enacted today by governments around the globe.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vera-sharav-never-again-is-now-unless-we-all-resist/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=26cf2504-60c3-4d8d-826f-e930553c5dbc

Stevey
Stevey
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

How dare she belittle the holocaust narrative by comparing it to the current situation… er… hang on a minute…

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

My local library has a stand dedicated to holocaust memorial day with leaflets and appropriate books on the theme.

It is also in full on covidian mode with all kinds of restrictions and posters asking users to mask up, sanitise, not sit on seats and follow the covid rules.

I am standing looking at the display stand and the conditions in the library and the cognitive dissonance is off the scale. These are not unintelligent people – why can they not see it???

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

Its political. There will never be agreement, never be reconciliation. The most we can hope for is that the drive for ‘common purpose’ etc is at least halted for a period. Its not going away, the fight for individual freedom, the ability to live a something remotely like a ‘normal’ life will remain something that will now be a constant battle. The lines have been drawn, we have seen what awaits us.
What we previously took for granted is for now on under constant threat.

Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
4 years ago

Symptomatic people are the drivers of respiratory epidemics. I know it, you know it, Fauci knows it, Ferguson knows it, Whitty knows it, Vallance knows it, the WHO knows it, Gates knows it. And when that simple fact is accepted, then maybe the whole god damn futile sh1t show will be understood and wont be repeated. Unfortunately there is no way the c***s incharge will admit they have got this and everything else wrong.

DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
4 years ago

I’ll just use the US as an argument. If lockdowns helped get us to vaccination and safety, why were there more deaths in 2021 than 2020? Why is it that those infected with earlier versions in 2020 avoided Delta infections, the far deadlier version? Of course state by state comparisons help too.

There is no doubt lockdowns delayed infections. But we saw with nations that avoided outbreaks in 2020 were hammered by Delta. Now, because it is becoming less deadly, those who managed to avoid any infections until December have gotten lucky. But did they know in 2020 that in less than 2 years it would mutate to “a bad cold”? Not unless they have a Tardis. And were it not for Omicron, lockdowns would be the course of the day still.

Draper233
Draper233
4 years ago

Well logically there was never an argument, it was obvious we were right from the start.

But we’ll only know we’ve won politically when the likes of Devil Sridhar are behind bars or in padded cells.

LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

MSM is trying to make fun of people wanting to protect themselves with cheap and proven drugs. Ivermectin has been FDA approved for human use since 1996. It also beats Pfizer’s new wonder drug hands down, and costs next to nothing. Ivermectin doesn’t make tons of money. So they know the Covid shot is on its final gasp, so they take it add something different to it, rebrand under another name and charge 20 times what they would for ivermectin. I cannot wrap my head around this nonsense. When I explain this to my relatives they label me as crazy and ask me if I know better than science. I don’t make up these information out of my ass. All this information is true and proven. For some people it is near impossible for them to wake up. They are comfortable in their clown world life. If you want to get Ivermectin you can visit https://ivmpharmacy.com

Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago

I don’t care about winning. My wife, my two kids and I just want to be able to travel freely as a peaceful family, to visit our family members, to enjoy life without needing to succumb to invasive procedures or the administering of drugs to our person which we neither want nor need. Simples.

stewart
stewart
4 years ago

Ditto.

I also don’t want to have to justify my state of health to an authority. Ever. Under any circumstances.

stewart
stewart
4 years ago

When in early April 2020 it was clear from the evidence that COVID was nasty but not remotely as dangerous as initially feared and we continued our panicked overreaction, society and our relationship with the state changed, possibly forever.

Lockdown sceptics will have won the argument if and when we abandon the fanatical, irrational crusade against a not very dangerous virus and return to a world without censorship, with a press that challenges authority, authorities that aren’t at odds with reality and a society that gets back to living and letting live.

Until then, we haven’t won anything and have last everything.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

and the window is rapidly shrinking for us to get all of that back

Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

I’m starting to think Toby Young is more deluded than the covidians.

Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Why?

Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

What argument, What debate? What facts? When will it sink in, it was never about a virus!

silverbirch
silverbirch
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It’s what’s coming that is the worry. This scam was just an entree

Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It was about ideas and the way for lockdown was paved by decades, if not a century, of green ideology.

Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
4 years ago

We won the argument(s) a long time ago. Funnily enough, largely without really having to engage in actual debate/discussion. We always had the arguments, and for this reason the COVID bedwetters and cultists have, by and large, attempted to smear us and generally acted like irrational adolescents. They’ve existed on irrationality and fear. They couldn’t keep that up. They couldn’t keep interacting with us/our argumentation by using irrationality and fear, hence they sought to silence us and, in a wonderful turn of irony/projection, created the narrative that we were the lunatics.

They knew, and still know, that they cannot interact with our arguments. The few who have tried have failed miserably. All they could do was smear us and engage in brazen projection.

This is why we must never forget. Untold deaths and harms have come and will continue to come from the arbitrary decrees of this regime, and supporters of these decrees could not even defend their position.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago

I agree about the harms to come, but unfortunately I don’t think they will be quantified with anything like the same assiduity as ‘covid’ harms – and until they are, there is no possibility that lockdown as a measure will be discarded

SkepticEric
SkepticEric
4 years ago

Well said, Mr Chancellor. Thank you for exposing how Sridhar and Harwood embarrass themselves with their laughable attempts at back-filling justification for the hysterical and criminal response to The World’s Deadliest Virus™.

NeilParkin
NeilParkin
4 years ago

It appears to me that the key to this wasn’t whether vaccines work or not, but could we control the rate of hospitalisations to a level that the NHS could cope with. In the end it seems it was largely a waste of time, but did shift demand for hospitalisations away from peak load, and the NHS did not collapse. Sadly it has also meant that many people who should have got treatment for other conditions have not received it, and probably still haven’t. The hangover will last years.

As the Chinese had a lock-down strategy which the WHO supported, and the rest of Europe was locking down, it would have been difficult for the Government, already under pressure from the media and with the Unions spitting their dummies, to have done anything else, even though the 2012 plan said exactly the opposite. I think the key moment was when Boris used the term ‘herd immunity’. I think that so horrified the left that there was no way the policy could continue. Perhaps he should have called it ‘Sunshine happy feeling’ and we’d have all looked forward to catching it.

We should be careful judging what was done… Read more »

SkepticEric
SkepticEric
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

I think that enough people realize that most of the world cannot really know what is really happening in China at any time.
And I think it would have been helpful for people gawking at sensationalized footage from China to realize that all-cause mortality in China averages 800,000 per month, of which 80,000 is from respiratory illness.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago

Edward,

Haven’t you worked it out yet?

This is the first skirmish, it’s a long way from over. It was a fake pandemic to hasten the march to totalitarianism. It’s not stopping yet. Boris is on his way out because he was too liberal as well as careless. They will not stop unless they are destroyed. The WEF is at the centre but the real movers and shakers are in the shadows, we can guess who they are but not know until either we are enslaved or they are waiting for the gallows.

Unless a miracle happens it’s a real problem. Witness the behaviours of leaders in New Zealand, Australia, France, Austria, USA and many other countries. These are despots, call them communists, fascists, post modernists, neo liberals it amounts to the same. They are narcissistic psychopaths or sociopaths and they care not one iota for their people. Whatever happens, whoever prevails, it won’t end well, it will be bloody. It may even result in the extinction of humanity.

Look at modern history. Nazi Germany was only one country before Nukes, before bio-weapons, before the advent of AI powered killing machines. Think about the damage that caused. Look at how… Read more »

Star
Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Agreed this is an early stage. On a very crude level, one can compare the “You’re free – go to Ibiza!” stuff from summer 2020 and 2021 with this year – and then look what happened after.

The slaughter in Europe in WW2 killed less than 10% of the population (and most weren’t Jewish). Planned depopulation this time would be much heavier.

Incidentally, Thursday is Holocaust Memorial Day. According to Pippa Crerar, political editor of the Daily Mirror, this makes it unlikely that the Sue Gray report will be published on that day. Yes, because of crimes committed by Germans in Poland, Hungary, etc., 80 years ago.

But never mind Crerar. Key material from the Sue Gray report is actually set to be revealed tomorrow (it is even possible some will come out before midnight tonight) – perhaps in time for Prime Minister’s Questions but in any case in ample time for Bullingdon Boy Boris Johnson to announce his resignation before tomorrow is out.

(Bullingdon Boy has tried a few moves, including pulling levers with the London police – as I suggested would happen – and they’ve all failed. He bought himself a few days’ reprieve but he didn’t extricate… Read more »

Star
Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Latest: Jacob Rees-Mogg (who unlike Johnson is a genuine idiot) has said on the BBC’s Newsnight that “a change of leader requires a general election” and that Britain now has a “presidential system”. Hahaha! Oh dear, oh dear. The Johnson administration is finished.

This guy thinks Boris Johnson has some kind of popular mandate to be prime minister! Talk about not understanding stuff. In fact if there were a general election tomorrow I doubt Johnson would even retain his seat in Uxbridge and South Ruislip.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Snap election then?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

God help us if there is

mka1221
mka1221
4 years ago

The thing about Harwood and Snowdon is that they have refused to challenge the institutions and individuals that have grabbed power over the last two years. They’re too busy demonising ‘frownies’ and ‘smileys’ (as they would say) – mostly ordinary people that have views at the extreme ends. Occasionally they’ll have a pop at an individual lockdown fanatic from a scientific background or some celebrity challenging the Covid orthodoxy, but neither of them have ever had the guts to criticise those that have directly profited; pharmaceutical companies, PPE suppliers, civil services, multi-billionaires etc. Harwood and Snowdon are gutless cowards.

RedhotScot
RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  mka1221

That’s a bit harsh. I mean, there’s no evidence whatsoever that pharmaceutical companies have ever been fined record amounts of money for fraudulent behaviour before………

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Or that Fauci funded GoF experimentation on Coronaviruses….

ElSabio
ElSabio
4 years ago

This is… interesting:

US Attorney Thomas Renz Reveals Defense Dept Data On Vaxxine Side Effects

•Miscarriages up 300%

•Cancer up 300%

•Neurological issues up 1000%

ACTUAL numbers don’t lie.

Remember, nearly our ENTIRE military (US) was forced to take the jab.

https://rumble.com/vt7f7z-attorney-thomas-renz-statement-on-dod-whistleblowers-findings.html

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Another important panel organized by Sen. Johnson that was ignored and censored by mainstream journalists.

RedhotScot
RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

The point is, it’s now on record, and the get out of ‘plausible deniability’ can’t be used by the covidians in the future.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Tom Harwood of GB News is universally awful at everything.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago

he always seems quite pleased with himself though

Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Pleased by himself too, I dare say.

Paul B
Paul B
4 years ago

Quality adjusted life years – NEXT!

Paul B
Paul B
4 years ago

Not sure why I wasted 3 mins reading that, typically these days whenever I see or hear the following line (repeated verbatim across all the media for some odd reason!?) I switch over knowing full well the rest will be garbage. Guess I figured that for the article to make it here it was worth it, more fool me.

‘It’s true that mass vaccination has reduced the risk of hospitalisation and death from Covid.’

cornubian
cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Yep, a Big Lie that DS and otherson this site appears happy to endorse.

stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I’m not sure we will ever really know.

On the one hand I hear from the doctors and nurses I know that the unjabbed are overrepresented among people hospitalised for covid. (But the absolute numbers are small and the people have health problems)

On the other hand, I know lots of unjabbed all of whom have caught something in the last month or so and not one of which has experienced more than a bad cold. And that includes children all the way to 70+ year olds.

My sense is that the effect at best is small, and is magnified by a failure to recognise that the numbers dying and hospitalised – vaxed or otherwise – are a tiny proportion of the population. Absolutely tiny.

cornubian
cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

ONS are using fabricated data to give false impression uninjected are over-represented in ICUs. https://www.hartgroup.org/problems-with-the-ons-denominator/

stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

That’s why I have taken the time to get as many impressions as possible directly from doctors in hospitals.

I treat all stats with extreme caution.

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