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What Kind of ‘Experts’ Didn’t Foresee This Lockdown Devastation?

by Will Jones
14 January 2022 1:00 PM

We’re publishing today a piece by a Daily Sceptic reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, on the failure of ‘experts’ to foresee the many harmful consequences of lockdown. Here’s an excerpt.

To me, as a layman, I find it utterly astonishing that the conventional experts became so suffocated and obsessed by one risk that they managed to ignore all the empirical observations and experience of their lives that might have told them that ripping up the way human society functions, and how we build up resistance to disease, might possibly generate massive problems from mental breakdowns to economic decline and cancer to reduced immunity. Forgive me for saying so, but I’d have thought that was pretty obvious. If expertise prevents an expert from seeing that, or at least standing up and saying so, then what value is the expertise? …

The sheer recklessness of what has been done in the name of annihilating Covid (which didn’t happen anyway) is difficult to measure. One thing was clear from the outset: the ‘experts’ really didn’t have a clue and I’d suggest to a large extent they still don’t. The best thing about Boris Johnson’s Partygate is that not only has it terminally undermined the Government’s authority and basis for locking us all down, but also it has flagged up the sheer idiotic stupidity of some of the rules that – even if one believed an initial lockdown had some benefit – were manifestly not going to make a difference.

Worth reading in full.

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Nitrambo
Nitrambo
3 years ago

The ‘experts’ in the pay of Governments/others

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Nitrambo

Yes ‘experts’ paid by Pfizer, Gates et al to push the products – my friend consulted an ‘expert’ Consultant Cardiologist and in passing asked his opinion on ivermectin as a treatment for Covid. “What is ivermectin?” came the reply.

A nurse friend ‘expert’ told me that the jab was “Just an ordinary vaccine like all the others”.

Zuckerberg and Dorsey ensured that dozens of real, objective experts were never allowed to get their challenging opinions into to the public domaine – helped by Massive Media censorship of challenging opinion which continues to this day backed by Ofcom.

No-one in Government or any of their selected ‘experts’ is interested in the proven fact that the experimental Covid jabs have recorded moire deaths and serious side- effects around the world on national reporting systems than any other vaccine released on trial in pharma history.

Fake “expert” Drosten’s cooked -up computer model PCR test was never peer reviewed by real experts ( his own qualifications have been challenged as fake by Kari Mullis ( inventor of the PCR) who also ridiculed the clams and ‘expertise’ of Fauci regarding PCR tests .

Fergusons hysterical over -predictions of deaths go back to swine-flu days – yet still he is an ‘expert’

Fauci had the Barrington Declaration real ‘experts’ trashed and smeared.

Mike Yeadon, formerly Deputy CEO of Pfizer was banned from Twitter for sharing his real expertise

I think surely we can all now see where this is going can’t we?

Surely?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Government and their “experts” are not interested in the deaths and serious injuries, other than the numbers, because they are entirely expected.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Those in charge have little interest in health. They spout platitudes but their lack of action about the people’s diet, or concern about the safety of the inoculations and the G5 roll-out (microwave radiation for all, no escape eventually) tells it all.

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago
Reply to  Nitrambo

There are two prominent factors; Money (the “Cui Bono” question), and Vanity. Trailing behind them are Self-interest and a host of other weaknesses which make many of these “experts” speak and behave as they do.

In a sane world, decent leaders of principle, who possess an iota of intelligence and the ability to reason, would constrain the experts and be able to see the damage they cause. Unfortunately, in the present madhouse, those very leaders and politicians are as equipped as the experts with the deficiencies I mention above.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Nitrambo

Turning of the tide? No, just a lull in the storm
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/turning-of-the-tide-no-just-a-lull-in-the-storm/
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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

I have asked myself the same question from day one.

The simple reality is that many humans are stupid, evil or both. And the best, brightest and most honest are not in positions of authority. Not even close.

This has been written about at length by many including Hayek, Von Mises, Thomas Sowell and plenty others.

Collectivism always ends badly because you are exposed to the malice and stupidity of the planners. At least in a world of free exchange one is responsible for one’s own stupidity.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

“Let’s not fool ourselves. Covid was, and is, an extremely serious and potentially fatal illness for some people, just as flu, pneumonia, and bronchitis have always been.”

and colds

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

‘for some people’

The nub of things – it’s the size of the ‘some’ that matters. And this one was no big deal.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Those who had their grant applications stuffed with 30 pieces of silver.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago

The country needs a Covid Victory Day to officially announce the crushing of medical tyranny.

Lessons will be learned, but it won’t be by the politicians unless we make them suffer at the ballot box.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

But vote for who? All major parties are complicit and the ‘so-called opposition’ have been even worse than the government.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Suffering at the ballot box is clearly not enough, look at the pathetic behaviour after the Brexit vote – different MPs party-hopping left right and centre.

Look at Sturgeon after the independence referendum – until corona came along I thought the only word that creature knew was ‘referendum’.

We would indeed appear to be in Mandelson’s post-democratic society, something a little stronger is needed than the ballot box to right that wrong.

By the way, my own preference would be the ballot box, but when those voted in refuse to respect the vote, they leave no option.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

democracy is for the benefit of the political classes.

They leave office riding in a car not on a tumbril.

tumbril

  1. an open cart that tilted backwards to empty out its load, in particular one used to convey condemned prisoners to the guillotine during the French Revolution.
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annepassman
annepassman
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

AGREE. Give me an idea and I’ll seriously consider it.Few politicians or clinicians are absolved from their utter inhumanity and despotism and stupidity

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

That is naiive and wishful thinking. The “ballot box?”

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

We have to fight and win the War first!

As for the ballot box – the example of Scotland is not very encouraging.

There is also the increasing tendency for these ‘boxes’ to be “stuffed” in a variety of ways, including digital by the very same powers bringing us the current misery.

As Stalin famously said : “It’s not the people who vote who count, it’s the people who count the votes”!

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

It’s simply the essential conundrum of democracy – there’s no essential wisdom in crowds, and it’s no good just blaming ‘them’ – whoever that happens to be exploiting mass ignorance at any given time.

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SilentP
SilentP
3 years ago

Whatever insanity and stupidity may have been in play, there is no way it could have all evolved spontaneously. There clearly must have been an evil force at work orchestrating the idiocy.

Last edited 3 years ago by SilentP
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Steven Robinson
Steven Robinson
3 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Yes, that is the biblical/Christian view.

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

What Kind of ‘Experts’ Didn’t Foresee This “Vaccine” Devastation?

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Half an hour ago on the BBC website about the Djokovic saga …..

“Other similar groups are repeating debunked claims linking the vaccine to heart problems in athletes.”

Last edited 3 years ago by GlassHalfFull
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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Debunked? By the people responsible for causing vaccine injuries. I think I’ll rob a bank then debunk the idea that I might have broken the law.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

During the pfiser medical trial the number of heart DEATHS was triple that of the placebo!

The notion that the bbc doesn’t constantly lie has been repeatedly Debunked

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Three players drop out of Australian Open with chest issues while Djokovic awaits his fate

Several fully vaccinated tennis players participating in the Australian Open qualifying rounds have complained about tiredness and breathing problems. 

Oops, didn’t stay debunked by AlBeeb for very long.

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/10/three-players-drop-out-of-australian-open-with-chest-issues-while-djokovic-awaits-his-fate/

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

The BBC spreader of Evil Lies!

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

It seems we are ‘on the way out’.

They should drop everything now. Covid passes (whatever they are, never seen one myself), masks, vaccine mandates etc.

We can try and get back to normal but not if there are ridiculous visual signs of it. The masks specifically. When that ‘requirement’ is dropped you’ll only spot a few guardian readers wearing them.

Only when its all dropped can we look back and start blaming/hanging people for the ‘mistakes’ that have been made from 23rd March 2020 onwards. And that includes the rushing out of a novel leaky vaccine with significant side effects that was completely unnecessary for this ‘cold’

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

“On the way out” – I thought you meant all heading for the “Genocide Ward” for a moment!

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I agree with you that ALL the Covid theatre needs to be removed and extirpated.
Face-nappies are a very visible sign of this nonsense – I never wear one now and only did so grudgingly at the beginning. I have NEVER worn one in a church.
But there is something else that needs to go and that is those accursed plastic screens in supermarkets and so forth. The real object of these satanic devices is turn customers into suppliants.
They need to be banished to hell.

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scaredmama
scaredmama
3 years ago

I have long read this site without posting. It has been a support in dark times when I thought I was alone (except for my parents) in thinking that the world had gone mad. I have finally made an account to say thank you to all of you for keeping me sane and helping me to have the courage to do mad things like take my child out of school when she became so scared she couldn’t even put on her school uniform, and to stay unjabbed when all around me are being boosted.

My husband has now decided not to take the booster unless we are forced. And you all helped.

This article really resonates with me because I felt like I was talking to crazy people – why wasn’t it obvious that the jabs could not possibly have had adequate testing? What did they have to do with earlier vaccines which had at least the merit of years of data? It was my Dad discovering you lot which let us see we weren’t alone.

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Welcome to the party. Agreed, this article will resonate with a lot of people.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Really nice to hear. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale so holding on to your sanity and, god, not being jabbed has taken some real resolve. Perhaps we are past the worst of it and slowly, we are being vindicated I think. It was an intelligence test; well done you passed 😉

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Welcome on board. Keep posting and if you get the occasional negative comment ignore. Same for downticks. We have a couple on here, well probably a squad sharing laptops, from 77 Brigade. They have probably downticked this post.

They’ve got quotas to meet you know😀😀

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I wonder if they get paid on a “tickwork” arrangement?

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And right on cue, there’s a down tick, huxleypiggles!

Well, at least the downtickers are predictable.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

How on earth could such a heartfelt post as that of scaredmama warrant four downticks?

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scaredmama
scaredmama
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I’m slightly surprised myself to be downticked so quickly. Maybe its because I am just a totally ordinary person who still felt things were weird.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

It could be that this is an attempt to scare.

Take no notice. Join in as you see fit.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

It takes a strong fish to swim against the current, even a dead one can float with it.. (I forget to whom this should be attributed)
Congratulations you are a strong fish, welcome aboard.

Last edited 3 years ago by Catee
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Deborah T
Deborah T
3 years ago

But this is the biggest puzzle of all, isn’t it? Why is it that…1 in 20 (definitely not more).., of us could see how crazy this was from the very beginning, and 19 in 20 couldn’t?

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Javy
Javy
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

This has puzzled me too, Deborah. So many of my friends, who I always thought were intelligent, savvy individuals have been sucked into this madness. I just don’t understand it.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Javy

Time to re-define “intelligence” – “getting promoted” and “spouting the official line to keep one’s nose clean” should not be included.

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barontait1a
barontait1a
3 years ago
Reply to  Javy

I had a habit of thinking mankind was all on one conveyer belt heading forward.. until a pile branches off and you suddenly realise we are on a bunch of different buses and and a fork in the road got us separrrrrrrrraaating, whereby the other bunch can hardly even hear me. Shrodingers vaccine Innit?

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

That figure accords with crime writer Colin Wilson’s theory of the “dominant 5%”.

It’s a long time since I’ve read him, and I might get this slightly wrong, but his theory was that only 5% of people were capable of being leaders, of stepping up in a crisis or solving a problem. This was through intelligence, personality, whatever. But as we have no use for 1 in 20 leaders – and not everyone was in a position to be a leader – Colin Wilson theorised that these were often the people who turned to crime, or misbehaved, through frustration. Not everyone who is in the dominant 5% will do this, I hasten to add! Only a tiny minority.

But if he is right and I believe he is, this might explain why 5% see though the narrative, and 95% don’t.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

By the grace of God (as Londo Molari pointed out weeks ago) you saw the truth, whether or not you believe that.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

“Mass Psychosis” – cleverly inflicted by ‘experts’ in the field and obligingly delivered by the craven, servile Mainstream Mass Media acting with one voice!

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

you beat me to it David. Nail on head.

Very cleverly done psychologically, espec with MSM, so that when “truth” does come to light, invariably from sites or sources derided by MSM as “alternative” it is sneered at and derided. It seems sometimes like these evil people have it all sewn up in a way that is unchallengeable. If it wasn’t for here and GB News I would be struggling much more than I am!

A relative had a gentle word with me not so long ago to suggest to me that “not everything you read online is true” (obvs told by someone else to try to stop my “conspiracy theorist” thinking). I had to bite back the urge to point out that it is more likely to be “true” than what you will get in DM/DT/ BBC et al.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

I have ALWAYS been an awkward bast#rd. Anyone who knows me knows that much. 😀

Too old to change now.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Ha ha! Yeah me too. If anyone in authority tells me it’s black I will assume it’s white.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I now do almost the polar opposite of what the NHS “recommends” (as 9 times out of 10 I find that they are ill-informed, out of date or just plain wrong)

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I was set to be the first in my family to attend university. However, university looked to me like being nothing more than an extension of school. So I said ‘No thanks’ and found a job in a warehouse.
45 years later I’m working in offices, alongside the sort of people I would have become if I had succumbed to social pressure, and I have no doubt that I made the correct choice.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

This has puzzled me too. The only thing I can say is that I am the only one of four siblings to have questioned any of this, I was also the only one of us throughout my childhood to repeatedly get into trouble in school, work etc for not conforming and always questioning the rules.
Perhaps some of us are just born to question?

Last edited 3 years ago by Catee
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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

I posted this a couple of months ago.
Some psychologists say we are broken down into 3 basic groups :-

20% Fast brains.
20% Slow brains
80% in betweenies -go mainly with the herd.

It isn’t a class/education/intelligence divide.
Fast brains shoot from the hip, ie have lynch mob mentalities.
Slow brains think and that means critical thinking.

So that means most on here have slow brains – although perhaps counter intuitively one might prefer to be fast rather than slow.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

This is from St Paul’s second Epistle to the Thessalonians:

‘…because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.’

Are we not seeing a people who are completely deluded and are believing a lie?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

and what is more Deborah, even with party gate, they still cannot!

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itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago

Very early on in the pandemic, a very clear narrative became established. Anybody who questioned this was branded a conspiracy theorist or covidiot and/or cancelled. Any ‘expert’ questioning it would likely have been waving goodbye to their career.
I guess the bigger question for me is who, precisely, established this narrative? This is the part which seems coordinated to me – eg the trending of covidiot on Twitter, the cancelling of the Great Barrington Debate etc. These things don’t happen by accident…

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

Absolutely spot on! There was a script ready and waiting, handed out to politicians and ‘journalists’, medical staff, on how to deal with any questioning of what was patent nonsense.

Anti-vaxxer has been used in exactly the same way as the terms racist, Brexiteer, Trumptard were used – as a catch-all to make it clear that no further argument was needed – once placed in this category, such people can then be dismissed as deplorables.

The fact that the same arguments were used in different countries in different languages shows it came from the same source. I’d look at Fraudci and pfisser’s markting department. They knew what pushback would be coming, endangering their profits. The money they’ve been raking in buys the best marketing people and the best media exposure in the world. Fraudci is on video making it clear he wanted to pump mrna into every living human being, he helped prepare the script, which started with the vilification of HCQ and ivermectin and corticosteroids from the very start, to pave the road for his vile vaxx.

Just as with mass illegal immigration, Brexit, Trump, even though many people in the middle have their own problems with these issues, they would rather not be lumped in with the knuckle-dragging racists that these movements were claimed to represent.

Just look at the paid troll comments in various media – all using the same arguments (low educated, people who don’t believe in science, flat-earthers, got their info from Face Ache or their uncle’s cousin living in their mother’s basement) – they don’t even update their cheap, crap arguments but just keep repeating them. So many people have such low opinion of their own knowledge and lack the balls to go against the flow, they’d rather stay silent than be lumped in with the basket of deplorables.

Being a ‘deplorable’ is snake speak for someone who thinks for themselves – a badge of honour.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

This is all explained in the early SAGE minutes courtesy of SPI-B, the Nudge Unit. The media was to be deliberately used, and paid handsomely, to pimp the fear and especially ‘make it personal’. They also proposed that opponents be villified.

The Nudge Unit is close to the pinnacle of this, though they will claim they were just following orders.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

Remember the movie TheyLive’s plot point that what was on the front of an advert wasn’t the idea really sold by it, there was an underlying nudge there most of the time.

I wonder if advertising agencies have been similarly corrupted as other publishing has?

Last edited 3 years ago by TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

For a lot of people, the underlying message is social status – they must have car X which perceived as so superior to car Y owned by the plebs. Theh there is manufacturers’ ‘new is better’ leading to mass disposal of perfectly functional last year’s white goods, etc.

There is a strong link between advertising, PR and propaganda, all being different forms of perception and message management.

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David.in.Italy
David.in.Italy
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Ad agencies have done a lot of ‘colorful’ ‘revolutionary’ paid nudge-work overseas, don’t look-up keywords such as “cluster”, “integrity”, “initiative” – there’s Whitehall competitive procurement docs, looking for the best ad agency provider for whatever mad scheme they were up to in ~ 2018. A covert “charity” even had a highly dubious “NHS reform think-tank”, in this deep state-level psyops, many of the words used in the sentence really do mean the opposite to their normal meaning. Best to stay clear of that aspect of the information war, corrupt? Hmmmm…

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

The MSM has so betrayed the people of this country – they should never be forgiven.

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Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

They’re on the way out, anyway…

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itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

My guess is that pharma spent millions on paid trolls, social media experts (all signing NDAs) to sway public opinion and turn the tide on vaccines, lockdowns etc. 100m investment in this area could have a huge impact, and is a drop in the ocean compared to its ROI. The same phrases are repeated every where you look on this issue.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Excellent post Jane!

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Thanks.
The whole thing reminds me of the comments I read before the Brexit vote, before the 2016 US election and around 2008 during the euro crisis. I’d read stuff in the UK, Dutch, Belgian, Spanish and sometimes French and German news and it was so clearly the same script, the stuff was almost translated verbatim.

I don’t care what someone’s opinion is if they truly believe it and stand behind it. But paid opinion whores – despicable, the lowest of the low.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

If we watch Event 201, we can literally see them all rehearsing it. Hiding in plain sight!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

And yet if you try to explain to someone that Event 201 is a “thing” they just call you a conspiracy theorist.

Because they cannot get their heads around the idea that their government would actively collude in harming their own people

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Thanks Jane – I have today been called an antivaxxer conspiracy theorist so it is good to know that being a deplorable is a badge of honour.

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  itoldyouiwasill

Very much like the mood when climate change hit the top of the pops, back when it was Global Warming, If you dared doubt, you were an evil bastard who wanted to kill polar bears.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

In many professions the true best people never make it to the top or to decision-making influence.

They are inconvenient, actually believe and know the truth, and detest BS in all its forms.

Ergo a societal failure of this magnitude is largely down to the marginalisation of the best and brightest or most honourable.

Crudheads who rubberstamp BS get ahead as well as psychopaths.

Until this reverses, every field of endeavour will be clogged by the dangerously mediocre.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

In the UK we have Common Purpose to blame for much of this. They have played the long game making sure that useful idiots without integrity made it to the top of our key businesses and institutions.

Last edited 3 years ago by TheBluePill
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Indeed we do have them to blame for so much – still kept a dark secret . Do you have to be a member to even join the BBC I wonder? At least you knew where you were with the Masons .

Why is Starmer a member of the “Trilateral Commission” where he rubs shoulders with international Banker “Trillionaires”? How did he ever get there? He has never achieved anything of note since his Blair “leg up”!

What great service was his knighthood for again? No-one ever seems to remember.

Who protects Cressida Dick?

What was Hancock doing sucking-up to Schwab at Davos and Soros in the photos? Who gave this mediocrity the introductions?

What does Gates talk about in his meetings with Johnson in Downing Street and in his phone calls? Why is Johnson’s body language so submissive and ingratiating – as if in the presence of Royalty?

It looks a more like “The Godfather” every day! But then the Old Mafia had a certain kind of Family ‘integrity’. This new bunch have none at all.

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Excellent point – ever more so with pc ‘diversity’ ( in fact the very opposite!) and equality woke fascism on the march

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Funnily enough that neatly summarises our civil service.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago

Even before the very first Lockdown this was all obvious to me and I said so.
And I received a lot of criticism for saying so.
I can also remember the vicious criticism that Toby received for writing an article, in April 2020 I think it was, that criticised the whole concept of Lockdown.
And STILL there are many, many people who have totally swallowed the Government’s line; here is a necessarily incomplete list, all of whom deserve to be on trial:

  • At least 80% of MPs
  • The whole cabinet
  • The entire establishment of SAGE, NERVTAG, Public Health Security
  • Almost all Senior NHS managers
  • The entire senior management of the Treasury
  • Every single Bishop and Archbishop in the Church of England
  • Every single Bishop, Moderator in the other denominations
  • Large numbers (but not all) of lesser clergy
  • The entire staff of the BBC
  • The entire staff of all National Newspapers with the partial exception of the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail. And I stress partial
  • The senior staff of the Teaching Unions

These people made NO sacrifices whatsoever for ‘the common good’; they were content to receive their full pay and full additions to their future pensions and cared not a fig for the sufferings of others. People who saw their life’s work destroyed, not because of their incompetence but by bureaucratic whim.
I have never had much respect for civil servants but I despise them totally now.

Last edited 3 years ago by Stephanos
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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

anybody who supported lockdowns is a ****. I wrote to my MP the day the first one was announced and my opinions have barely changed since.

should have stuck with the pandemic response plan.

Last edited 3 years ago by Hardliner
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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

MPs have mostly been pathetic (with a few notable exceptions). I’ve written to mine a number of times asking specific awkward questions about justifications and cost-benefit analyses, and he either completely ignores it or replies with some bland platitude which completely avoids addressing the question.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

They brazenly demonstrate that they are not fit to serve the country.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Just like mine. Toryboy, who supplies cut and paste waffle via his researcher.
Arse.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

It was probably a quick phone call from Gates to Number 10 that scotched that!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I would add the trustees and senior staff of a number of charities, who said nothing even when it was obvious that lockdown measures would have serious adverse effects on the people they claim to be standing up for.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I agree. I DID say the list was incomplete!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

“Charities” are mostly a tax dodging exercise.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Exactly!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

“Trustees” and “Senior Staff” are over-paid careerists, often with political objectives or ambitions who will look after themselves and their funding sources – Integrity is dead in all out Institutions.

What are “charities” these days anyway….just like the tax exempt “Foundations” trying to take over world? “Open Society” ” Bill and Melinda”, Clinton, Blair etc etc – I think we get the picture!

The very word “Charity” has bee totally abused for decades.

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

British Heart Foundation.

I wrote to them in April 2020 challenging their support for masks, because as anyone who has had heart problems will know the last thing you need is interference with your breathing / oxygen / carbon dioxide levels. Their reply was a lazy cop out which denied all existing studies and was full of May be’s.

Shame on them. Utter disgrace.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago

It doesn’t make sense if you imagine the government really cared about the health of the majority of people. It does make sense if you regard this as pre-meditated exploitation of a moderate health issue to advance an extremely unpleasant political agenda and to grift at the taxpayer’s expense.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

An equally interesting question is: How many really didn’t? I think on our side of the fence, we have spent two years amassing tonnes on info from ‘our kind’ of experts, i.e. ones outside the media bubble who talk sense, have integrity and tell the truth. A question I’ve had since the beginning is who are the so-called ‘experts’ oft quoted in passing by the MSM and government and how numerous are they really? Given that the corrupted media has been able to construct an entirely fallacious world crisis with barely any relationship with reality, how easy must it have been to give the impression of millions of ‘experts’ in agreement when really there weren’t that many. That’s why I always make a careful note of any ‘expert’ who overtly and publicly supports this crazy narrative. There’s fewer than we think; I think most academics have been keeping their heads down and waiting for it to be over.

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PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

When some of the top actual experts in their field ie Ioannidis and Levitt, were being dismissed and replaced by grifters like Pagel, Gates, Blair, Sridhar etc it was clear what the requirements for experts were.

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

To Build Back Better, you must first destroy that which you plan to replace. TPTB had every clue; they persist, on all fronts, not recklessly, but deliberately.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Exactly.

We must always remember that if we are going to Build Back Better – very subjective of course and we haven’t been told what was wrong with what we had – “we must destroy that which we plan to replace.”

Build Back Better is nothing more than a euphemism for wholesale destruction.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Good on you for pointing that out. They can’t Build Back Better without first deconstructing and destroying what has been already built.
 
If they had the best interests of societies at heart they’d say, we’ll Rebuild Better.
 
The toppling of statutes and erasure of respected historical figures are all part of the deconstructing and destroying. They want British history deleted, they want British culture deleted.
 
If they achieve this, then they’ll have a people with no local or historical focus point to influence them or set an example to them. It will be a people they can mould into any shape they want. And the shape they’ll go for is the serfdom model.
 
People need to wake up and protect their cultures and histories.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

They use the term “Creative destruction” in order to build the world in their image.
Bastards.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

“[S]tarting to look as though they may well have been two more victims of the madness that has engulfed us.”

 
To think or believe that COVID-19, lockdowns and the experimental “vaccines” being forced upon us are simply the results of us being engulfed by a “madness” is a bad mistake to make.
 
For us to make this mistake means we’ll waddle forwards and, with eyes wide-open, end up engulfed in the same situation again. And again witness innocent babies and children be crippled with preventable diseases or have their lives ended. 
 
COVID-19, the lockdowns and the mRNA gene serums resulted from well thought-out and researched plans, that were executed with precision and sanity-provenanced malice aforethought.
 
The end result among populations is madness. But the perpetrators, instigators and government puppets that set it in motion, breast fed it and saw it through as far as they could take it, can’t hide behind a madness alibi.
 
It’s not a mental health facility the perpetrators need to be sent to, it’s the gallows. 

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I think we have both made similar cases in different ways.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

It is possible that the increased rates of RSV and other infections, particularly viral infections of the upper respiratory tract, is due to a vaccine related immune suppression.

Note that this doesn’t necessarily need the family members to be vaccinated themselves — if the vast majority of the population is vaccinated and has an immune suppression then this would result in higher levels of disease than normal, and thus make the chances of any person, whether vaccinated or not, catching the disease.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

So they have harmed all of us with the mad global vaxing campaign, jabbed and unjabbed?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

The problem with articles such as this is that the original premise was that we were facing a pandemic of Black Death proportions and simply had to lock down when the reality was that C1984 was the cover for Lockdown.

Lockdown was always the aim of the game. Society had to be conditioned to accept ridiculous nonsense and diktats – every single NPI has at heart the fundamental intent of undermining personal and public health – and yet, with honourable exceptions on here, the public have swallowed the lot. The intention has been from the beginning to re-program society and to prepare it for further reprogramming. Currently, TPTB in this country at least, are having a short period of R & R before the next onslaught begins.

Freedoms will be tightened further and probably most strongly against we refusing injections. Sliding in alongside will be a tsunami of lies around the nonsense of global warming, huge tax rises and laws to protect the planet for generations not born and coincidentally not likely to be born if this Orwellian madness continues.

So, lamenting the performance of this government in dealing with a bad cold outbreak is really failing to see the true picture.

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pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
3 years ago

I’m not a fan of anything which even vaguely smacks of OMGCONSPIRACYEEEK, but the link’s to Hillsdale College’s Imprimis magazine. I want to quadruple-check it, but believe the column deserves serious investigation.

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/what-is-the-great-reset/

It speaks to the core issue of this thread.

If it’s true, the Tower should be converted back to its original purpose – pikes and all – and I’m serious.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

Great link – excellent article.

My only minor criticism is that it would carry just a bit more weight if it was either referenced or contained links to the WEF site, as other articles of this nature do, which help to show people that what the author is describing is real work, underway, as opposed to conspiracy theorist nonsense which can be dismissed.

Without those links other people who are not in the know about all this just could not get their heads around what the article describes.

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jos
jos
3 years ago

Tell me this – if they were so aware of the seriousness of this to take such drastic actions, why were they organising parties with no masks / social distancing and clearly with no fear whatsoever? That’s the question to be answered. What did / do they know about how scared we should all be? The answer is obvious in my opinion.

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago

99 times out a 100 an expert is someone with a great deal of knowledge about a very narrow topic. The mistake is to conflate this with general wisdom, common sense, the bigger picture, which they lack, more than the average person, having spent years staring down a microscope.
Then take a politician, risk averse, who’s spent years climbing the greasy pole and will literally do anythig to accrue power, who also lacks life experience such as bringing up kids – running a business – doing the weekly shop.
The combination of these people, magnified a thousand times by an agenda-driven MSM results in what we got. Factor in the general stupidity/fear/herd mentality of the great British public and Bob’s your uncle.
Next comes the mud wrestling contest betweem all three groups to apportion blame.
We, the people, must hold them all to account. Heads must roll.

Last edited 3 years ago by NeilofWatford
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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

Metro – Coronavirus lockdown could cause 200,000 extra deaths

Monday 20 Jul 2020

“Official government estimates indicate more than 200,000 people could die as a result of lockdown and Covid’s impact on the NHS, it has been reported.

Forecasts made in April calculated that 12,000 to 25,000 people could die from delays to treatment in the first six months of the pandemic, with another 185,000 deaths in the medium-to-long term.

Meanwhile it warned there could be 500 extra suicides during the first wave of coronavirus cases, and between 600 and 12,000 additional deaths per year in the event of a severe recession.

The estimates included in a report whose existence was revealed by Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallance only last week, and disclosed by The Daily Telegraph on Monday.

The estimates were put together by the Department of Health, Office for National Statistics (ONS), the Home Office and the government’s Actuary Department in an effort to quantify the collateral damage of the government’s response to the virus.”

The “experts” knew all about the damage at the very beginning, but still went ahead.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/20/coronavirus-lockdown-cause-200000-extra-deaths-13014848/

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Star
Star
3 years ago

An “expert” is a man or woman who willingly gives their whole self to serve the ruling moneygrabbers, in return for the pathetic dross of some shitty status.

A “professional” is someone who gets paid to do a job, and who in addition is totally up themselves because they’re so deeply into their role that they don’t realise what a one-dimensional berk they are and how their attendant self-deception causes decent people to shun their company. If they’re in the law, the media, or politics, they probably routinely shove a large amount of cocaine up their hooter to stop themselves reflecting on what a pathetic and intellectually lazy moral coward they are.

Anyone who deep down knows the above is 100% true but fears falling into one or both of these categories, here’s the advice you need: just be a PERSON who thinks stuff, says stuff, is interested in stuff, does stuff, learns stuff, and works on stuff, who keeps their mind and spirit alive, and who cares about his or her fellow people. Fuck roles, fuck money, fuck status.

Google is an advertising company that as well as running Youtube, one of the most moron-feedy creations in the whole of human history, also runs a website through which it serves up links to other people’s webpages – which it indexes from a small section of the worldwide web – in accordance with what its controllers want you to be influenced by. (For those who missed course Real World 101, Google does not “want” anything – it is a fictitious person created by people who are all too real, who do want stuff, and who tend to get it.) Those who think there may be some truth in this observation, here is a concept on which you might usefully reflect: the offer of a FREE LUNCH when made by a global octopus-like megacorporation. Is this concept useful or not? If it is, then ask what they get in return.

Last edited 3 years ago by Star
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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Who says they didn’t foresee it?

Most likely, they approve.

More specifically, they approve of lockdown so they approve of the consequences of lockdown.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

A really thoughtful piece.

The use of the term ‘expert’ has become a parody of itself, concealing the wider concept of the real ‘scientist’ in the root sense – one who uses wider ‘knowledge’, rather than one who parades limited significance seeking in a narrow specialism.

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Quizzical
Quizzical
3 years ago

Nothing new here. The utter inability of civil servants or our political classes to understand, let alone consider, consequences is an ongoing disgrace.

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annieob
annieob
3 years ago

It’s very tempting to blame if all on ‘the experts’. But we have to look closer to home too.

Who were ‘the experts’ and the politicians responding to? The panic stricken public. Why were the public panic stricken? Hysterical media. Why did the media push fear and panic? Because the fear and panic stories are the stories the public click on.

Yes, we can suspect (know) that deliberate Chinese disinformation – spread to weaken the West- played a large part in the urge to lockdown. And that extremists on iSage driven by anti democratic political views (hello Susan!) urged lockdown on. And that pharmaceutical companies pushed their own corrupt agenda. But at bottom, this is a story about public stupidity and cowardice.

Every single one of us who clapped for the NHS, who watched the deranged Whitty/Vallance tv performances, who clicked on a media fearporn story, who drew a NHS rainbow & stuck it in the window, who wore a useless mask, and who took a PCR test – we all contributed to this. We did it. Because we are hysterical cowards. We brought it on ourselves. If we’re to extricate ourselves from the nightmare we created, we need to admit this. We need to look at ourselves.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago

“Expert” – an Ex is a has been and a spurt is a drip under pressure

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

I’ve read the piece and what thorough indictment of the tragedy of all the covid nonesense.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

Why would the author of this article choose to remain anonymous, when speaking the truth? The harm to children caused by lockdowns, mask mandates, school closures, depressed and suicidal parents, lack of access to healthcare will never be forgotten.

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

“What Kind of ‘Experts’ Didn’t Foresee This Lockdown Devastation?” Easy. The ones on the govt payroll.

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annepassman
annepassman
3 years ago

The main and most serious consequence of the failure of the so called experts( who,in fact were nothing 8f the kind) is the effect that they have had on the psychology of millions of our fellow citizens who believe the lies and distortions they were told , wore masks, isolated, and so on. I’m married to one and my family bought into the entire propaganda. For me the o ky thing that’s kept me sane is the e istence of this site plus the articles by John Lee, Angus Dalgleiish and others. How can so many be fooled by so few?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  annepassman

I too am the only outlier among my entire extended family – to say that it is difficult would be the understatement of the decade. They are trying to make me feel like I have been somehow “radicalised”.

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

While main stream media condemns using ivermectin the most populated area in India simply declared they’re actually COVID free after promoting this safe tested medicine. In addition to this, Ivermectin attaches covid spike proteins and stops them from binding to ACE2 receptors. I recommend everyone to have ivermectin for emergency situations https://ivmpharmacy.com

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