We’re publishing an excellent piece today about the risks of the booster roll-out by Dr. David Livermore, Professor of Medical Microbiology at the University of East Anglia. He points out that Geert vanden Bossche, a critic of the Covid vaccines, may be right – that leaky vaccines deliver a brief adaptive protection against infection but simultaneously impair innate immunity, causing a reduction in non-specific protection once the initial protection has worn off. If that’s true, he doesn’t think it’s an argument for not boosting the over-50s or the vulnerable. But it is an argument for not boosting the young and healthy. Here are the opening few paragraphs:
The Government’s answer to Omicron is boosters, boosters and more boosters. Everyone over 18 is eligible. Early queues exceeded five hours; December 18th saw 904,000 boosted. Israel is doling out fourth shots to the over-60s and Germany plans to follow suit.
Please don’t lump me with the anti-vaxxers as I roll my eyes. The present vaccines are invaluable for preventing severe COVID-19 – probably via a T-cell mechanism – in anyone of late middle age or above, or with vulnerabilities.
But those of us who broadly support vaccination must be honest: Spring’s fond notion that we could mass vaccinate our way out of the pandemic, as with measles or polio, is a busted flush. The dash for boosters only underscores the point.
The core problem is that the vaccines give only brief protection against infection. Moreover, they are ‘leaky’, and SARS-CoV2 can outflank them. Clinical trials suggested that the doubly vaccinated initially enjoyed 90% protection against infection. But, with ageing vaccination and circulating Delta, this eroded by summer’s end. Omicron is even more evasive. At a December party in Oslo, where 98% of 117 guests had been double vaccinated, 74% caught COVID. Boosters restore protection to 71-76%, but this doesn’t last long. Early UKHSA evidence is that it’s down by 15-25% within 10 weeks.
Worse, by using leaky vaccines, we are conducting a huge Darwinian experiment, with ourselves as guinea pigs.
Worth reading in full.
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As usual the early treatment stars, HCQ and Ivermectin, have been conveniently forgotten.
Way safer than these jabs.
Please don’t reply that there is not enough evidence yet. I have been following their criminal suppression for 18 months.
“Geert vanden Bossche was right to fear that leaky vaccines would deliver a brief adaptive protection against infection but simultaneously impair innate immunity, causing a protracted reduction in non-specific protection once the initial protection wore off.”
How does Prof Livermore consider that to be acceptable for the more elderly?
If true then it is a disaster for anyone who has the jab and being non sterilising, cause more harmful variants to appear.
If you add all the additional side effects from these experimental injections, it seems clear to me that they should be stopped for an independent review now.
It’s not about what they say it’s about. And this isn’t about stopping a viral disease.
Watch Mike Y on Bitchute, 6 January.
But but but Kate Andrews Spectator piece linked to in the header says “The government is rightfully pushing its booster programme as the response to Omicron, and it is estimated to cut risk of hospitalisation by 88 per cent.” Which is why I cancelled my Spectator subscription. No mention of side effects in that piece either.
“by using leaky vaccines, we are conducting a huge Darwinian experiment, with ourselves as guinea pigs” sums it up beautifully. I for one however will not be a guinea pig.
Stop the vaxxes immediately. Omicron has brought an end to the pandemic. It is endemic like the four other coronaviruses we live with. Let people get back to their lives, remove all mandates, protect the vulnerable. Stop mass testing asymptomatic kids or adults. Let’s approach this scientifically rather than politically.
And, where are the random control trials showing the supposed effectiveness of the “vaccines” in the real world? . I don’t believe a word of it. My stepdad died 2 weeks after the double trouble of a flu + covid vaccine.
Suppression of early identified treatments was a criminal action …. it has led to thousands of unnecessary deaths.
If you’re under 80 and in good health you are not at high risk from the original virus, let alone Omicron. They should only jab those who really at at risk.
Why quote clinical trials which, after all, are run by (for the benefit of) BigPharma? The lack of animal trials makes the vaccines essentially illegal.
A problem with terminology here – and the MSM.
These are not leaky vaccines, nor is the problem one of variant escape.
It is simply a case of – Vaccine Failure.
But that would not sit very well with the psych ops -might convey the wrong message to the sheep.
And even that ignores the fact that we’re talking of a failure of gene therapy.
Again underestimating the damage these vaccines are doing – especially at the number of doses that are being given. I’ll take the risk of covid any day over the risk of damaging my immune system and the consequences over a lifetime. We are now talking about around 30 days of ‘immunity’ from a booster
and this may well fall with subsequent boosters – this is completely unsustainable and it’s about time that more doctors came out and called it for what it is!
The usual suspects could easily be considered guilty of Actual Bodily Harm (ABH), or worse, if a constructive legal action happens. If you were on the jury, what would your attitude be?
Has the writer of the article just wakened up? There isn’t really anything that hasn’t been known for ages if you read articles other than what’s in the MSM.
The problem with Livermore’s article it is already out of date.Omikron has changed the whole perspective.When a country gets infected with omicron and it takes over everything changes. As the below earlier posted, only elderly over 70 benefit from the third jab with less severe infections .Omikron has also changed the risk benefit from the vaccine completely. If selected vaccination for the previous strains made some sense it is apparent that mass vaccination has made the current vaccine obsolete with even less effect among the ones most in need(and even that changing for omicron with treatment options).Putting Berensons latest with the same thing
This is important new data from Denmark also adjusted for over testing in certain age groups. All vaccines.Even no effect against severe disease except >70 years.Back to square one.Only for elderly the boosters otherwise useless vaccine for omicron.
“Just to make this crystal clear, data just released from Denmark (where 85% of infections are omicron) show no effect of the booster against being infected and no difference between 2 and 3 doses against severe disease except 3 doses better against severe disease for those >70.”
https://twitter.com/TracyBethHoeg/status/1478853178699354112
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/has-covid-vaccine-efficacy-turned
Yes, well people rolling their eye-balls is humanly, scientifically and medically ignorant – and what got us here.
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3099/rr-5
“Please don’t lump me with the anti-vaxxers as I roll my eyes. The present vaccines are invaluable for preventing severe COVID-19 – probably via a T-cell mechanism – in anyone of late middle age or above, or with vulnerabilities.”
How can you warn of catastrophic immune damage in some, but then promote the jab for others? Oh that’s right, because Bossche is a pro-vax shill with ties to the Gates foundation and GAVI.
I do so tire of “I’m only anti THIS vaccine.” Please lump me under anti-vax without qualification.
Yep I’m with you. Anti-vaxx, in fact anti-allopathic medicine for ever more, thanks to the events of the last few years. Fuck the absolute lot of it.
In 2020 a seed was put into many people’s minds that Covid was a bit like polio or small pox. If enough people are vaccinated then the R rate can never get high enough for it to become a serious problem.
I’m not sure why people thought that this was very likely to succeed with a highly infectious air-born virus with a high propensity to mutate (which presumably is not unrelated to it being highly infectious). In retrospect, shouldn’t we always have thought Covid was very much like the flu in this respect?
Maybe we just didn’t know very much about the virus and, at that stage, this was the hope.
Anyway, by the time the vaccines arrived Covid was well and truly entrenched globally, and it was obvious to anybody with a brain that it was never going away.
Still, hope clinged to the idea of being able to supress Covid through the vaccination programme, and presumably also lockdowns (albeit we often heard that vaccinations were ‘our way out of this’). Hence the idea that everybody should be vaccinated (‘we aren’t safe till we are all safe’).
Then, coming up to more recent times, it has become clear that… Read more »
“The very best case the vaccinators can hope for is that by regularly vaccinating the entire population every 6 months (or whatever) a small degree of suppression is achieved.”
And an awful lot of deaths.
Who’d have thought it eh..
https://freewestmedia.com/2022/01/06/austrian-government-demotes-some-38-million-double-jabbed-to-unvaccinated/
For the vaccine Makers it must be like a lottery win every day
I posted this in the general comments, but worth reposting here:
https://www.juliusruechel.com/2022/01/the-false-god-of-central-planning.html
a really deep dive ( and very long) on all things covid, lots of references and right up to date on data….what happened to the flu?
immunity both natural and vax induced, cases and testing (of all kinds).
Worth reading in full as they say
‘Darkest Africa’, Really! I am as far from ‘woke’ as is possible, but anything with this in it sends me over the edge.
And ‘over 50s’ should get vaxed? Fit, healthy over 50s, over 60s even over 70s are far less likely to suffer problems with a runny nose and sore throat than your overweight 20 yr old.
The rest of this just repeats what we already know.
Yes, I reacted to that too. ‘racist anti-vax professor loses position’ … coming to a headline near you.
Our healthcare system is about to experience a tsunami! Potential side effects of jabs include chronic inflammation, because the vaccine continuously stimulates the immune system to produce antibodies. Other concerns include the possible integration of plasmid DNA into the body’s host genome, resulting in mutations, problems with DNA replication, triggering of autoimmune responses, and activation of cancer-causing genes. Alternative COVID cures EXIST. Ivermectin is one of them. While Ivermectin is very effective curing COVID symptoms, it has also been shown to eliminate certain cancers. Do not get the poison jab. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
Does anyone here know whether life insurance is likely to be voided if you develop myocarditis from the voluntary experimental jab?
Asking for a young relative.
The doc in the picture appears to have caught a Ready Brek Variant
The old woman looks better educated and more sensible than the doctor in this illustration – but this is now a regular experience.
And still the Powers that Be are pushing as hard as they can for vaccination and boosters of the very young. At some point want, say, colleges and sports teams and leagues be facing massive liability?
Another welcome article – but he starts by saying late middle age for vaccines and then says anyone over 50???
Whatever age one thinks middle age starts and ends, I remember Sunetra Gupta saying it’s unnecessary to vac a healthy person until mid 50s at least. I can’t square this with what Livermore is saying, not really, since I am 50, nearly 51. And this is no worse than the flu (according to Gupta) now that we have herd immunity (and I’ve had covid anyway).
I think the problem with the article is that its thrust is that vaccinating the young is counter productive. And then going on to say that above that age it’s necessary. When in fact the age of 50 (say 45-60) is probably a middle band, where we want some, but not all, to be vaccinated, and where it’s not counterproductive.
You’ll never be ‘fully vaccinated’, there’s always room for another one
This is very worrying. So much so, I’ll just worry about the term ‘anti-vaxxer’ being synonymous with ‘unvaccinated’ for such a free thinking person.
Has the CEO of the Indiana based insurance company shot the fox of all those who are still maintaining that the ‘vaccines’ are completely safe?
The 40% increase in deaths of working age Americans, unrelated to Covid, has been noted by actuaries working for every US insurance company.
Any thoughts on why these people might be dying if it isn’t from Covid?
I think the CEO in question insists it must be undiagnosed Covid, so the answer is more vaccination.
The crappy prophylactic encourages cv19 to mutate.
it can reduce hospitalisations especially in the older and most vulnerable.
but it’s by no means a universal everyone should have it.
the idea behind vaccinating everyone is to try and stop cv19 but you need to vaccinate the whole planet within say 3 months preferably while stopping people moving around and before the thing can mutate.
going zero cv19 by vaccine induced immunity is a ship that sailed a long time ago.
you want a denatured real cv19 to vaccinate with rather than that mRNA muck, or a really mild variant to spread.
vaccination is just a short cut to your body producing antibodies so you can fight off future infection. There is little to no chance a man made knock off mRNA vaccine will be as good as immunity after infection from the real thing.
Vaccinations are good. mRNA vaccinations should likely be banned internationally.
Lack of capital letters make this a very difficult read. I appreciate it is trendy but it is also lazy and shows contempt for your readers.
It’s a leaky vaccine, and doesn’t give immunity, so even stabbing everybody on the same day wouldn’t work