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No Need for New Restrictions, Says Government Minister

by Will Jones
2 January 2022 6:14 PM

Current Covid data does not indicate a need for new restrictions, a Cabinet minister has said. The Telegraph has more.

Steve Barclay, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, indicated that stricter controls were unlikely to be introduced in the coming days, based on the latest hospitalisation and case figures.

On Wednesday, Boris Johnson is set to review the Plan B measures brought in last month, including rules mandating masks in almost all indoor public settings and requiring Covid passports for nightclubs and large events.

Government sources told the Telegraph last week that they were not expecting to repeal any of the Plan B restrictions yet, with adults in England set to be told to continue working from home if possible. The measures are set to roll over to the next review point on Jan 26th.

Senior Tories on Sunday said Plan B must not become a new normal, warning Mr Johnson that the Government must push to “get back to Plan A”.

Mr Barclay’s comments come as daily reported infections in England drop by 24% overnight, to 123,547 on January 2nd down from 162,572 on January 1st. Even taking into account it being a Sunday, when there are usually fewer infections reported, it is a considerable drop.

Daily reported infections in England (HMG)

In London, the epicentre of the country’s Omicron outbreak, reported infections continue to show no sign of growth.

Daily reported infections in London by specimen date (HMG)

The Telegraph report is worth reading in full.

Tags: CasesLockdownsLondonPlan BReported infections

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    Amtrup
    Amtrup
    3 years ago

    👏 👽 🎅 😒 😴 😕 😑 😐 😉 😆

    Last edited 3 years ago by Amtrup
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    Innocent bystander
    Innocent bystander
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Amtrup

    I agree

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    Lockdown Sceptic
    Lockdown Sceptic
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Innocent bystander

    The current restrictions are still terrible

    NHS Wanted To Kill My Child
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zxl_jt7AW0
    On the last Wednesday Debate we discussed a story in the Daily Mail about how the parents of autistic and down syndrome young people have been forced to sign “do not resuscitate” orders. The government denied the report, but one of our views Scott got in touch to say he was one of those parents.

    We chat to him exclusively to understand the plight Sir Chris Whitty and others are putting families through during this Coronavirus Pandemic.  Andre Walker

    Stand in the Park Sundays 10am make friends, ignore the madness & keep sane 
    Wokingham – Howard Palmer Gardens Cockpit Path car park Sturges Rd RG40 2HD  

    Telegram Group 
    http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell
    When you are demonised for speaking the truth you are living in tyranny.

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    Star
    Star
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

    Is there a written version of that Youtube video? It looks interesting.
    “Do Not Resuscitate” is nothing but a bureaucratic euphemism for a type of euthanasia – letting a person die when treatment could save them (not necessarily only “keep them alive”, but actually save them so that they recover).

    Has any medic in Britain ever had the guts to say so in public? Have they f*ck!

    See also this from Wales:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/31/welsh-surgery-says-sorry-after-telling-the-very-ill-not-to-call-999

    “Completing a DNACPR will have several benefits (…) 1/ your GP and more importantly your friends and family will know not to call 999.”

    Yeah, it’s such a drag, having to call 999 when a close family member is choking. That’s lost ad-watching and porn-watching time!

    (Note too how the authors of this murderous advice wrote “friends” before “family”.)

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    John
    John
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Star

    This continues to really tick me off, it is one of the most misunderstood directives.
    DNACPR stands for Do Not Attempt CardioPulmonary Resuscitation.
    A separate DNACPR may be required for each healthcare provider. They are not usually transferable and a hospital cannot insist on a primary care clinician impose one on a discharged patient. A DNACPR MUST be reviewed every few days UNLESS there are valid reasons as to why a review is not required such as futility, the DNACPR can be reversed, for example a patient may be very poorly in ITU but recovers sufficiently to be transferred to a normal ward and a DNACPR is no longer appropriate.
    A DNACPR can be only applied to a patient in hospital by a specialist registrar or consultant level physician, I think a band 7 nurse and above can apply a DNACPR in A&E but I cannot remember the details of the forms used in University Hospitals of Leicester NHS trust.
    CPR is used when a person has a cardiac arrest. It does not, or should not, mean that other treatment is not started or is terminated.
    If a person is choking then treatment to reverse that condition is not contraindicated by a DNACPR and if an ambulance is called they must and will treat, even with a DNACPR in place. Failure to treat would be manslaughter and could be murder. If no DNACPR is apparent then CPR must be started.

    A patient in hospital with a DNACPR will still be treated with antibiotics if they are septic for example.

    Another directive that could be put in place by the patient is an advanced directive, this will detail what treatment should be given in specific circumstances, and may include a DNACPR in case of cardiac arrest. To complete this the person must have capacity as defined in the mental capacity act and the directive is completed in conjunction with a GP. An advanced directive applies across all healthcare providers..

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    cornubian
    cornubian
    3 years ago
    Reply to  John

    You are either a fool or a propagandist if you imagine the rule of law still applies in the UK. Blanket DNR’s issued will nilly since the coup – and no one bats an eyelid.

    Screenshot 2022-01-02 at 20-47-21 NHS asked care homes to place 'Do Not Resuscitate' orders on all residents at height of p[...].png
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    Anti_socialist
    Anti_socialist
    3 years ago
    Reply to  cornubian

    You are either a fool or a propagandist

    Nah don’t play that game, you won’t get anywhere intentionally being divisive or alienating people.

    Anyway, the vast majority of medical professionals only do what they’re taught & told.

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    John
    John
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    Do Not Attempt Cardio-pulmonary Resuscitation (DNACPR) recommendations are used to guide health and care professionals, across all settings, in making an immediate decision on how to respond should the patient in their care suffer a cardiac arrest or stop breathing for any reason. They may be made by clinicians or be put in place by individuals as part of advanced care planning. DNACPR are not legally binding. Ultimately, the decision to start or not to start CPR is a clinical judgement made at the point in time; the presence of a DNACPR recommendation will guide this decision.” From https://www.rcn.org.uk/clinical-topics/end-of-life-care/covid-19-guidance-on-dnacpr-and-verification-of-death

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    Javy
    Javy
    3 years ago
    Reply to  John

    Neither my late husband or myself were aware that a DNR had been placed on him. I only found out months after his death when I applied to see his medical records. I managed to trace the signatory (who had transferred hospitals by then) but all I got was a half-hearted apology…..

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    John
    John
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    I am neither a fool or a propagandist, and I take exception to anyone suggesting that. I am a retired nurse practitioner, registered with the NMC. There are clear guidelines, irrespective of what the CQC found. A DNACPR, like any care or treatment plan should be patient centred and unique to that patient. Blanket decisions are a definite no no from my perspective.

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  John

    And you can guarantee that this applies in all NHS hospitals and Care Homes in the UK?

    So what happened to all the Midazolam ordered by Hancock?

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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  John

    To be fair it was not Anti_socialists rude assertion.
    He was quoting and refuting ‘cornubian’.

    I have always found your posts to be both thoughtful and interesting, certainly not those of a fool or propagandandist.

    Upon leaving hospital back in April my notes included a “DNR” notice as part of my decision not to pursue the recommended course of treatment (“what’s the point? Life will not be worth living and I’m gonna die of something else soon anyway”).

    All of this was very carefully discussed at length with nurses and consultants. After a while I changed my mind so started receiving day patient treatment and the “DNR” notice was cancelled.

    “DNR” = What members of the public still call it.

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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    The vast majority of NHS professionals that I have encountered recently will, I’m sure, ‘do the right thing’ regardless of what civilian managers or politicians might declare.

    JOHN. Presumably a Band 7 nurse is one wearing the darkest navy blue uniform?

    During my recent 10 day stretch as an inpatient it was fascinating to observe the interactions between nurses of different grades, from light sky blue to dark navy.
    While reinforcing the strictly hierarchical nature of the profession (as recalled by my mum who was forty years a nurse during and after WW2) it must be extremely useful during any form of emergency.

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    John
    John
    3 years ago
    Reply to  karenovirus

    in England there’s no standard of uniform colours! One trust I worked for had a uniform for band 7 that was a band 8 in another trust, which would be ok, except that the former trust was a service provider at the site of the latter trust.
    In Wales I believe they have a standardised uniform, and you’re probably right.
    One anecdote, we had an 8 week old baby brought in unresponsive. Everyone jumped into resuscitation mode, completely ignoring the advanced life support protocol. I wasn’t paediatric trained, so I ended up pulling everyone back onto protocol and running the resuscitation effort, which ultimately failed. At the debrief the paediatric consultant thanked me for taking charge, although I was a band 5 staff nurse.

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    John
    John
    3 years ago
    Reply to  cornubian

    I am certainly neither a fool or a propagandist, and I resent any such suggestion, just a humble retired registered nurse practitioner. None of my former colleagues either in primary or secondary care would tolerate any such directive.
    Whether you believe it or not, but the rule of law still exists in the U.K. As a registered healthcare professional I had a legal and moral responsibility to my patients which was underwritten by the NMC code of professional conduct, likewise my paramedic colleagues with the HCPC and my physician colleagues with the GMC.
    DNR orders do not exist, and haven’t existed for at least 10 years, when DNR was changed to do not attempt resuscitation (DNAR), which was subsequently changed to DNACPR, as I said in the original post above.
    Malcolm Kendrick did have problems with the ambulance service trying to get his patients admitted to hospital.
    https://www.resus.org.uk/sites/default/files/2020-06/2016_07_25_CPRdecisions_patientinfo_FINAL.pdf
    https://www.resus.org.uk/sites/default/files/2020-05/20160123%20Decisions%20Relating%20to%20CPR%20-%202016.pdf
    https://www.rcn.org.uk/-/media/royal-college-of-nursing/documents/clinical-topics/end-of-life-care/nmc-rcn-statement-on-cpr.pdf?la=en&hash=AE59B874B692925E848AA8EF7AFA791E
    “Do Not Attempt Cardio-pulmonary Resuscitation (DNACPR) recommendations are used to guide health and care professionals, across all settings, in making an immediate decision on how to respond should the patient in their care suffer a cardiac arrest or stop breathing for any reason. They may be made by clinicians or be put in place by individuals as part of advanced care planning. DNACPR are not legally binding. Ultimately, the decision to start or not to start CPR is a clinical judgement made at the point in time; the presence of a DNACPR recommendation will guide this decision.” From https://www.rcn.org.uk/clinical-topics/end-of-life-care/covid-19-guidance-on-dnacpr-and-verification-of-death
    If I had been involved and not followed these guides then I would have been, quite rightly, censured by the NMC and would have had no protection from either my union (RCN) or my employer.
    The problem is that care homes without registered staff would probably follow the directives from the hospital.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  John

    I will say this John, I believe your professional contributions are an asset to this site and I always appreciate them.

    Thank you.

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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  cornubian

    Looks like The Telegraph batting an eyelid.

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    Anti_socialist
    Anti_socialist
    3 years ago
    Reply to  John

    Yeah, I got a real bollocking by my wife for casually comparing DNACPR as murder, her explanation was just as detailed but a lot less polite.

    I’ve never mentioned it again anywhere, i’d add Things like CPR, defibrillation etc aren’t some kind of miracle procedure neither is midazolam a miracle drug 😉

    It is wrong to suggest health care professionals are knowingly killing people through omission of care, we know your chances of dying are greatly increased if given medical attention.

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    Nessimmersion
    Nessimmersion
    3 years ago
    Reply to  John

    Yes, we know,
    Its all a baaa complete coincidence:

    “In December 2020, the Care Quality Commission (CQC) published an interim report, looking at the use of Do Not Resuscitate (DNR) orders during the pandemic.
    The final report is due in February 2021, but the initial findings suggest an inappropriate use of the decisions dating back to the beginning of the pandemic, and possibly before. The question is therefore, were some deaths avoidable?”

    https://www.ringroselaw.co.uk/2021/01/26/cqc-find-inappropriate-use-of-do-not-resuscitate-decisions-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

    NHSS – now just enforcers of Medical Tyranny.

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    Anti_socialist
    Anti_socialist
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Amtrup

    Well said

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    Early Doubter
    Early Doubter
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Amtrup

    NFIWTHM.
    key: “H” means hieroglyphs

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    Moist Von Lipwig
    Moist Von Lipwig
    3 years ago

    No data that has ever existed can justify restrictions.

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    cornubian
    cornubian
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

    No, data that never existed did justify restrictions.

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    Hopeless
    Hopeless
    3 years ago

    Utterly corrupt, stupid, perverted with excess power. The Johnson imprint is clear to see.

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Hopeless

    No Opposition, No media, No Courts, no Challenge

    “King of the World” psychopath Johnson in action – masked and waving a syringe – Xmas Day message: “Jesus wants you to take the booster”

    However did we get here ?

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    Victory Gin
    Victory Gin
    3 years ago

    Great … now get rid of the old restrictions.

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    cornubian
    cornubian
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Victory Gin

    They havent even started yet. Doomsday set for 2030. Wait until they really get going.

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    BS665
    BS665
    3 years ago
    Reply to  cornubian

    Cracking kaleidoscope. The pieces are in play now, but have not yet settled.

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    barmpot
    barmpot
    3 years ago

    Another bent wazuk that can’t lay straight in bed.

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    mishmash
    mishmash
    3 years ago

    People too busy enjoying themselves to get tested, just keep doing that and the scamdemic is over.

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    GroundhogDayAgain
    GroundhogDayAgain
    3 years ago

    This is an interesting read. Makes a decent case that the Unions agitated for this…

    http://whistleblowerphilosopher.blogspot.com/2022/01/the-road-to-lockdown_02121758366.html

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    CynicalRealist
    CynicalRealist
    3 years ago
    Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

    Seen similar claims before. While I don’t doubt that there is some truth in it, I am not at all convinced that the unions forced the government to do it – they wanted to do it anyway (especially the SAGE bedwetters), and the behaviour of the unions just provided them with futher “justification”.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

    Absolute Bollox.

    So the teaching unions are responsible for shutting down most of the world.

    This guy is away with the faeries.

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    So the teaching unions are responsible for shutting down most of the world.

    Such a claim is nowhere in this text.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RW

    You haven’t thought beyond the story he tells. Do you seriously accept that the teaching unions held this government to ransom?

    Do you believe the same scenario panned out across the world?

    Do you take the view that pubs, theatres, restaurants, sports facilities, libraries, churches,gyms, and restrictions on weddings and funerals are all down to some brain dead ex teachers?

    As I stated at the top – “absolute Bollox.”

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    You haven’t thought beyond the story he tells.

    Precisely. Which is why I’m not putting statements which came from my own fancy into the mouth of the author in an attempt to discredit the text, also called strawman fallacy. The texts restricts itself mostly to England and these parts are well-documented facts and conclusions drawn from them. It should be possible to argue against them in order to show what’s wrong with them.

    My beliefs are immaterial here. I’m just pointing out that this text doesn’t contain what you’re trying to use against it (still true for the second statement).

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    “Improve Education – Let the Teachers go on strike for the right not to teach!” Then sack them!
    They can all “leave them kids alone” and wear their putrid masks at home!

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  David Beaton

    Teachers without a wage for two months? They would be pleading to be allowed back.

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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    A minor point.
    The author claims that USDAW, the shopworkers union, lobbied the government for a masks in shops mandate.
    That may well be true but it’s what the government wanted anyway as an easy way to asses levels of lockdown compliance.
    USDAWS members were not so keen, shopworkers abandoned masks as soon as they could.

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    Nessimmersion
    Nessimmersion
    3 years ago

    .

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Nessimmersion

    No…they are too stupid!

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago

    Given the rumours that school children are going to be nasally raped en masse from Jan 4th I suspect this BS will change within the week.

    Lying bastards.

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    mishmash
    mishmash
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    Mass testing of children is essential to get those ‘case’ numbers nice and scary looking.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  mishmash

    Yep. Which is why they are doing it.

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    BS665
    BS665
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    Cause cases to impose lockdowns, drive mad to restore sanity, gang-rape to guarantee chastity, cause fear to dispel concern, test and trace to fuck the human race…

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    zners
    zners
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    But cases were already high enough for Javid to have justified restrictions no? I feel something has changed.

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    CynicalRealist
    CynicalRealist
    3 years ago
    Reply to  zners

    Backbenchers making noises, and the fact that ‘cases’ aren’t translating into hospital admissions in the way the Covidians hoped!

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    olaffreya
    olaffreya
    3 years ago
    Reply to  zners

    Could it be the light is beginning to illuminate the madness and mendacity?

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  mishmash

    Carcinogenic contaminants on the swabs? How many nose bleeds?

    Do the perpetrators of this offence actually ‘get off’ on this constant Nasal Testing perversion?

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    ElSabio
    ElSabio
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    Any parent today with school-age children should seriously consider home-schooling if at all possible; in the long run, it would be worth the effort.

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  ElSabio

    Indeed they should – schools it now seems are alienating environments no longer capable of keeping children ‘safe’. or secure – never mind suitable places where ‘education can take place.

    One must calmly ask whether the country is now in the hands of psychopaths?

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    NonCompliant
    NonCompliant
    3 years ago

    I still think they’re going to turn the screw, I no longer trust or believe any Govt Minister’s.

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    Sforzesca
    Sforzesca
    3 years ago
    Reply to  NonCompliant

    Yep.
    Surely they realise this won’t go down too well with the RPTB.

    Must brew up a definitely deadlier, more transmissible one soon.
    Just imagine if it really turned out to be a really, really deadly virus –
    Whitty et al wouldn’t have to lie.

    The shock of actually telling the truth for once might do them irreparable harm…

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  NonCompliant

    What took you so long?

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    RedhotScot
    RedhotScot
    3 years ago

    I’m sorry, but this just isn’t good enough. Somehow we must all do our best to get case numbers up, up I tell you. It’s outrageous that the NHS can’t be used as an emotional club to beat all those evil antivaxxers into compliance.

    They must be forced I tell you, forced to take the vaccinations no matter the cost.

    It’s your duty to protect me, I don’t care about your health but I must be protected at all costs. Line the kids up, hunt the brats down and vaccinate them. Employ big game hunters to target the miscreants from a distance if necessary, with vaccine darts.

    If they run, it’s fun you know.

    I don’t want the filthy little urchins near me, my life is far too valuable, I contribute more to society than anyone else so its essential I’m protected.

    Masking isn’t good enough for you antivaxxers, you should be put in the stocks to be pelted with rotten vegetables, from a safe distance.

    Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. That’s my watchword. I demand to be released from my civil service office attendance so I can isolate at home on full pay and pension. Who cares about all those silly little businesses, they should have thought about their future much earlier and taken a government job.

    I can’t wait until the fourth jab is available as it’s safe and effective as well.

    YOU ANTIVAXXERS ARE ALL SCUM I TELL YOU, SCUM!!!!

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    olaffreya
    olaffreya
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RedhotScot

    Totally agree – why leave your home to be confronted with humanity in its odious reality. Smelly puerile infectious people getting close to your sterile pristine purity. No way – lockdown, lockdown and total isolation is the way forward for humanity.

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    ElSabio
    ElSabio
    3 years ago

    Senior Tories on Sunday said Plan B must not become a new normal, warning Mr Johnson that the Government must push to “get back to Plan A”.

    What the hell is plan A? A pay rise for the boys? Wink – wink….

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  ElSabio

    While don’t they all F.O. for all the good they are doing?

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    DanClarke
    DanClarke
    3 years ago

    No need for new restrictions, keeping the old ones? Pathetic hysteria

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    BS665
    BS665
    3 years ago

    Awful how ‘restrictions’ hurt worst those who comply the mostest.

    People believe that following guidance as if it were absolute truth will lead to safety, peace of mind, security, and even an end to this situation. But the goalposts keep shifting.

    In reality nobody can follow all the rules consistently. The lethargic majority cut corners here and there – thus demonstrating their absurdity – but never compute their servitude.

    Only a sudden violent event may rock the system. I think this outcome is increasingly likely.

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    ElSabio
    ElSabio
    3 years ago

    Oh yes they will….

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  ElSabio

    Exactly… death is after all the ultimate freedom!

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    Star
    Star
    3 years ago

    “Covid: Workplace absences could reach up to 25% as PM drafts contingency plans“.
    Is this what they call “blowback”?

    Someone who thinks they’ve got “Covid” because they obediently stuck a probe up their nose every day for a fortnight until they eventually got a blue line indicating a “positive result”, and who then walks around with their head in a paper bag stops going into work because they need to “self-isolate”, is now classified not as a sensible and public-spirited citizen, but as a “workplace absence”.

    Gotta see the funny side.

    I could have told them the time would come when rather than getting a “We love you” letter from the queen or the prime minister, or even from their local GP, their only thanks would be a flying kick up the arse with a hobnailed jackboot.

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    Prester John
    Prester John
    3 years ago

    I saw this from a ‘Julian French’ on a Sky News Australia YT video:

    IMAGINE we were living in medieval times…. and you’d been invited to a royal banquet. 👑 🍷 🍲 

    The ones in charge were extremely keen to get you to drink the wine. They were very insistent. 👀

    You’d probably assume the wine was poisoned.

    “Drink this wonderful wine.”

    “No thank you.”

    “Be a good guest! Drink the wine. We uncorked it especially. It’s a beautiful and rare vintage.”

    “No thank you. I appreciate the offer though.”

    “Drink the wine. It’s very expensive but you can have a glass for free, and we’ll give you an extra plate of supper.”

    “No I’m fine as I am.”

    “Drink the wine and we’ll feed your entire village for a week and reduce your taxes.”

    “Wow all that for wine? What’s in it? Still, no thank you.”

    “We’ll make you a Duke.”

    “Very generous but no thanks I’m content in my home.”

    “You are not anti-wine are you????”

    “No I just don’t feel like drinking this wine this evening.”

    “Drink the damn wine or we’ll stop you working.”

    “Eh?”

    You notice they’re getting desperate now.

    “We’ll ban you from markets.”

    “Wow your tone has changed.”

    “Now you need to drink 3 glasses or we’ll stop you riding your horse or seeing your family for the next year.”

    “Wait, what? 3 glasses? Can’t see my family?”

    “Did we say 3 glasses? We meant 3 bottles.”

    “3 bottles?”

    “Yes…every few months we want you to drink 3 bottles of this particular wine we’ve prepared indefinitely for the next years.”

    “Years??”

    Yes, or we’ll try you for treason.”

    “Ok what is IN this damn wine that you are trying SO HARD to get everyone to drink it?”

    “We can’t tell you. Trade secret.”

    “It’s poisoned isn’t it?”

    “No..it’s…ummm…it’s just really really good for you. It’s um, special healing wine.”

    “Then why all the threats?”

    “We just need you to… I mean we strongly encourage you to drink the wine so you don’t miss out.”

    “But the Earl drank a glass and collapsed.”

    “Unrelated.”

    “No…like he was fine then had a glass then keeled over…he’s still on the floor writhing. Look at him! His face is blue and he’s clawing at his chest.”

    “Coincidence. Guards…please escort the Earl to his chambers. He’s had too much wine.”

    “I knew it was the wine! What about the rest of the court? Half of them also collapsed after the wine.”

    “Those guests got ill from something else. Probably the chicken.”

    “All at the same time?”

    “You sure do ask a lot of questions! Guards! Guards… get this man his wine.”

    “I don’t want it. What if something happens to me after drinking it?”

    “We’re not liable for that.”

    “Not liable for the wine you produce? I definitely don’t want it.”

    “Drink your wine so everyone else doesn’t get a hangover.”

    “Huh? That makes no sense. Maybe if they didn’t keep DRINKING they wouldn’t get HUNGOVER in the first place?”

    “Look at these paintings of people drinking wine all over the gallery. Look how happy they look.”

    “Paintings? Look, I don’t drink wine. I don’t want the wine. Even the idea of drinking this wine leaves a bad taste in my mouth.”

    “Ah no matter if you don’t want to drink it.”

    “Ok good. Let’s drop the subject now”

    “You don’t have to drink it. We can pump it directly into your veins. You won’t even have to taste it”

    “Wait, into my veins? Are you serious? I don’t want your damn wine!”

    “TAKE THE DAMN WINE NOW! WE’VE ALREADY PAID FOR A WHOLE CRATE FOR EACH MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY! WE’VE SIGNED AN ONGOING CONTRACT WITH THE DISTILLARY! ANYONE WHO TALKS BADLY ABOUT THIS WINE WILL HAVE THEIR TONGUES CUT OUT! PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW DRUNK ON THE LAST BATCH WILL BE RECLASSIFIED AS SOBER AND MUST DRINK THE NEW BATCH! AND WE. WANT YOUR KIDS TO DRINK THE WINE TOO! EVEN YOUR BABY. SWAP HER MILK BOTTLE FOR WINE! SHE’S OLD ENOUGH FOR WINE NOW! AND YOUR PREGNANT WIFE! SHE NEEDS IT TO KEEP HER HEALTHY! EVERYONE DRINK THE WINE!”

    THIS is how absurd the conversation is getting now.

    Anytime anyone tries so hard to pressure you into something: it’s rarely if EVER because it serves YOUR best interests or because its good for you. More likely it’s in THEIR best interests.

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    BS665
    BS665
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Prester John

    Prester, I have a simple rule: if after saying ‘no’ once, anyone continues to try and ply me with covid wine, I tell them I am teetotal.

    Sadly, too many are too timid to say ‘no’ in any way, shape, or form. It isn’t politeness to agree to being raped over and over again.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Prester John

    Exactly.

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    RW
    RW
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Prester John

    Simpler heuristic: Whenever somebody tries to scare you, he’s trying to coax you into something which is much better for him than for you.

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    rayc
    rayc
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RW

    An even simpler heuristic: always consider offers from other people as potentially unfair to you (the key is to observe that the initiative to enter transaction was not yours).

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  RW

    Every time!

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    sjonesy1999
    sjonesy1999
    3 years ago

    End all restrictions immediately.

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    7941MHKB
    7941MHKB
    3 years ago

    So, Whitty warned of 5,000 deaths a day (even 6,000) and got a knighthood.

    If he’d warned of 50,000 deaths a day, would he have been made a Duke?

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    BS665
    BS665
    3 years ago
    Reply to  7941MHKB

    Refeudalisation. It’s coming, folks!

    Duke Whitty of Turtlehead

    Last edited 3 years ago by BS665
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    TSull
    TSull
    3 years ago
    Reply to  BS665

    They’ll certainly try. There is no guarantee they will succeed.

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    BS665
    BS665
    3 years ago
    Reply to  TSull

    Might have to apply for that court jester position with Count Beckham after all.

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  BS665

    Bring back hanging, drawing and quartering of traitors : “Behold, this is the head of a traitor”`.

    Most of those receiving this justice were of course members of the Ruling Elite!

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    Annie
    Annie
    3 years ago
    Reply to  7941MHKB

    Duke or Puke?

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  7941MHKB

    Whitty is simply beyond any words of contempt.

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    NeilofWatford
    NeilofWatford
    3 years ago

    The only ‘restrictions’ should be life sentences for complicit politicians, media and pharma complex who are killing young people with mandatory experimental genetic vaccines, many fine athletes included.
    https://rumble.com/vrt1h0-athletes-collapsing-this-is-supposed-to-be-rare.html

    Last edited 3 years ago by NeilofWatford
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    Paul B
    Paul B
    3 years ago
    Reply to  NeilofWatford

    Enough have died now, where are the autopsy results? I’d hire a sky writer or project them onto big ben.

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    TheApesOfWrath
    TheApesOfWrath
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Paul B

    They managed to do an autopsy on an alpaca, yet how many have they done on people who “died of covid”?

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  TheApesOfWrath

    As few as the can get away with !

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Paul B

    They have banned and hidden the autopsy results to conceal their crimes!

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    maverick999
    maverick999
    3 years ago

    If only this guy was PM!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgTPxC1ZXSc

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    refusenick
    refusenick
    3 years ago
    Reply to  maverick999

    Or President

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    Annie
    Annie
    3 years ago

    Unfortunately, Gulag Wales is still crushed under a pile of Dung and likely to remain so, because that’s what Dung enjoys.

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    Nymeria
    Nymeria
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Annie

    Annie, you always make me laugh with the way you put it 🙂

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    OliveTrees
    OliveTrees
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Nymeria

    Yes, she has a way with words 🙂

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    ElSabio
    ElSabio
    3 years ago

    A man definitely not of these times….

    What in the.jpg
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    zners
    zners
    3 years ago

    What’s with the recent retreats? Are they trying to cut themselves loose from the ever growing elephant in the room aka horroundous vaccine side-effects? Going to be an interesting beginning to the New Year, still can’t figure out what their next move will be if not pushing people with more variants. Well done too all those resisting. I saw that Amsterdam was mayhem

    Last edited 3 years ago by zners
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    BS665
    BS665
    3 years ago
    Reply to  zners

    Nobody knows if it’s a feigned retreat or a real one. I thing it’s feigned, but every new edict is beginning to look like desperation.

    I think they have lost, in the long view, but we’re still in c. 1942.

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  BS665

    Feigned – they are coming back wit more outrageous horror and scheming l ies!

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    Anti_socialist
    Anti_socialist
    3 years ago

    No need for government either in my opinion, certainly not a “Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster” what ever that is.

    Meanwhile, the biggest scam the world has ever seen continues, The COVID-19 Fraud with Dr Mark Bailey on Counterspin.

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    Johnson has amply demonstrated the virtue of abolishing tyrannical Governments and declaring creative, populist anarchy!

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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster is a Cabinet level post without a department to run.
    It is given to someone either to shut them up or, as is likely in this case, to give them access power without the bother of having to do a proper job. They can spend ALL their time politicking on the PMs behalf.

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    PatrickF
    PatrickF
    3 years ago

    No need for any restrictions.

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    ElSabio
    ElSabio
    3 years ago

    Well, duh!

    Dr. Scott Gottlieb – former FDA Commissioner-turned-member-of-board-of-directors of Pfizer on Sunday said what we’ve known all along: Cloth masks do not protect against Covid.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/dr-gottlieb-now-admits-cloth-masks-dont-provide-protection-covid-19-video/

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    isobar
    isobar
    3 years ago

    Dutch lockdown protesters MAULED by police dogs and hit with batons

    https://mol.im/a/10362603

    The Dutch have evidently had enough!

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  isobar

    Dutch now set vicious dogs onto protesters – and attack them six onto one – just like1940 all over again! ( See videos)

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    Paul B
    Paul B
    3 years ago

    Did they say this on exactly the same day new restrictions were announced (masks in schools) or just out slightly by a day?!

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    BeBopRockSteady
    BeBopRockSteady
    3 years ago

    No need for further restrictions, at the same time the slap masks on school children again. But that’s OK, a recent poll suggests the majority actually enjoy the masking.

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    Backlash
    Backlash
    3 years ago
    Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

    Hitler appeased/ignored the middle aged people whilst going after the young

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    GroundhogDayAgain
    GroundhogDayAgain
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Backlash

    @Backlash. I agree.

    Those like me who are approaching fifty are not the target. The focus is on subjugating/conditioning the young, who will eventually be so cowed they’ll accept anything.

    We need to actively fight any imposition or unfair restriction made on school-age children. Their resilience is lower than ours, so it’s up to us to act as proxy votes. If the rules apply to them but not us then we have a duty to object on their behalf, rather than be thankful we don’t have to comply.

    They’re being actively trained to comply with the ‘new-normal’ – we’ll have shuffled-off/become obsolete in a few years, but for those few years we need to remain awake. I’m not a dad, but I am an uncle and I intend to fight this.

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

    Lovely words.

    I am not a Dad, I am nominally a Grandad, my wife’s son’s child, but by God I am not surrendering to this shit. It’s bad enough for my nieces and nephews but our grandson cannot fight. I must do my bit for him or admit I am a coward.

    Last edited 3 years ago by huxleypiggles
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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  GroundhogDayAgain

    The progressives were always very clever at this.
    They could have made life hell for my racist nan but instead left her alone knowing that she and her equally racist cronies would soon be dead as indeed they have been these past 40 years.

    I encountered the first of the Polytechnic progressives in the 6th form at school. We didn’t use words like politically correct or woke. “Woolly thinking” perhaps.
    We had to tell a new ‘0’ level economics teacher, wanker wanted to “be our friend”, to teach by the book or we would drop out of his subject leaving him with no job.

    After that he left us alone, going for the younger kids in the classrooms down the hill that we never went near.

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    Anti_socialist
    Anti_socialist
    3 years ago

    Democracy, Dutch anti-lockdown protester is MAULED by police dogs. Thousands attended an outlawed protest

    Policing by consent, arrested for dancing, Dozens of police storm Glasgow pub suspected of breaking strict Scottish Covid rules Officers filmed shouting at punters to leave and wrestling people to the ground

    Note: How the MSM never allow comments on police brutality.

    Last edited 3 years ago by Anti_socialist
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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    Indeed the video is very shocking to see. – does Johnson watch eagerly and plan his own next moves?

    We wait with interest to see his real plans to enslave and beat down the populace!

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    I don’t like saying this but the Plods are going to be in for a very rude awakening if they carry on like this. From their point of view they need to be careful because they don’t have the numbers. Seriously.

    If sustained and multiple uprisings occur the cops are fucked. This isn’t Maggie fighting the miners at specific points like mines where London coppers were shipped to the Yorkshire coal fields. Half a dozen reasonable demos would soon have plod at breaking point.

    Or perhaps there is a hidden reserve of young migrants being fitted for their uniforms daily?

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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  huxleypiggles

    Dutch plod clearly did not have the numbers in the street scene vids shown by the Mail.
    Just in the orchestrated scenes with horses and vans in a largely empty park.

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    karenovirus
    karenovirus
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Anti_socialist

    25 Officers, 6 vans for a routine visit?
    Just two arrests and a pub closed for a day.
    Senior Officers should arrest each other for wasting Police time.

    I take your point about the Mail not allowing comments on this blatantly political action.

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    rayc
    rayc
    3 years ago

    South African parliament burned down today in unexplained circumstances (e.g. fire alarm not sounding, firefighters having trouble with “building security”). Perhaps a little warning from TPTB for the legislators there for not taking care of sufficiently silencing their doctors during the first days of the omicron?

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    OliveTrees
    OliveTrees
    3 years ago
    Reply to  rayc

    Next stop, an Enabling Act?

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  OliveTrees

    We already have it – read the small print of the Corona Virus Emergency Act – our dumb MPs didn’t even bother to read it!

    History tells us it should be good for Eleven Years’ Brutal Tyranny before they are all brought down in flames!

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  rayc

    I wondered when “measures” would be taken.

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  rayc

    False Flag from te Globalist thugs? US involved?

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    huxleypiggles
    huxleypiggles
    3 years ago
    Reply to  David Beaton

    More than likely.

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    LonePatriot
    LonePatriot
    3 years ago

    MSM is trying to make fun of people wanting to protect themselves with cheap and proven drugs. Ivermectin has been FDA approved for human use since 1996. It also beats Pfizer’s new wonder drug hands down, and costs next to nothing. Ivermectin doesn’t make tons of money. So they know the Covid shot is on its final gasp, so they take it add something different to it, rebrand under another name and charge 20 times what they would for ivermectin. I cannot wrap my head around this nonsense. When I explain this to my relatives they label me as crazy and ask me if I know better than science. I don’t make up these information out of my ass. All this information is true and proven. For some people it is near impossible for them to wake up. They are comfortable in their clown world life. If you want to get Ivermectin you can visit https://ivmpharmacy.com

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  LonePatriot

    MSM is garbage, taking the Gates shilling! $314 millon of it globally!

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    sam s.j.
    sam s.j.
    3 years ago
    Reply to  LonePatriot

    same here they all s ay i t’s a horse de wormer .i tell them otherwise that is also for human consumption safe used for decades talk about india and africa but no reply or the usual ‘that’s mis information !’
    absolutley no one has listened to me

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    olaffreya
    olaffreya
    3 years ago

    Hi folks – often I see us falling into the trap of speaking about the justification of so called restrictions, or lack of. Please reflect when structuring your arguments, as germane as they may be, that these so called restrictions are not evidenced based and do nothing to cut transmission of the virus etc. So we are simply faced with a false premise. What needs to be be focused on is obvious to you folks I’m sure.

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    X - In Search of Space
    X - In Search of Space
    3 years ago

    “get back to Plan A”.

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    X - In Search of Space
    X - In Search of Space
    3 years ago

    Plan A, Plan B. Pfft! I don’t think so. Their only modes of operation are monkey-see-monkey-do, and full-on headless-chicken – as per the majority of those in charge around the world.

    I honestly don’t know how we scrape by. We simply are not sufficiently evolved as a species to be able to responsibly look after ourselves and our planet. If we were faced with a real emergency, we’d be done for.

    We ponce about, believing ourselves to be very clever and grown up. Actually, we haven’t got a clue. And it feels to me as though we are hanging on by our fingernails.

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    RedhotScot
    RedhotScot
    3 years ago
    Reply to  X - In Search of Space

    Cheer up you miserable get, there’s hope for us yet!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTL1E-EJoY

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    David Beaton
    David Beaton
    3 years ago

    Yawn – just another no-mark Johnson fellow traveller Yes -BoyI

    No-one gives a flying f*ck what he has to say!

    Just get him out of our faces!

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago

    I’m slightly baffled by the current uk situation. It feels as though the government have somehow run out of road when it comes to covid and I can’t quite read the intention at this stage. I thought omicron was the coup de grace; the ‘variant’ that would be used to bring in all the tyranny we on this forum have feared for the last two years. Got extremely worried just before Christmas. And they got their beloved ‘case’ numbers up and made all the right noises to spook the public into quasi submission. But where to go from here? The word is definitely out that this ‘variant’ is milder and it feels like a missed opportunity to inflict more damage on the economy and to advance the medical apartheid their bosses seem to want. I don’t see much vilification of the unvaccinated anywhere (apart from in the Guardian); the tyrants seem to have lost their way… finding it hard to predict what comes next while this has generally been very easy thus far!

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    crisisgarden
    crisisgarden
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    It was never going to be easy to use deception as the primary means of bringing about sudden and profound social change. Have they fucked it up and need to backpedal and distance themselves from the scam?

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    Welshp
    Welshp
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    Same confused thoughts here. Tyranny plan seems to be off track. somewhat.

    Optimistic:
    Are they bailing out?

    Did Johnson drag his feet long enough for the back benchers to get their teeth stuck in and peg him down so he could ignore the puppet masters?

    Is Omnicon just not producing the goods?

    Pessimistic:
    They recognise the mood of the nation has changed and they need a new scariant to plough on.

    Are we to except a twist in the Covid narrative?

    Was this just a trial that’s proven to be far more successful then their widest dreams?

    Do they have another ‘virus’ at the ready to deliver their plans (smallpox)?

    I just don’t see them giving up on their Digital ID’s / CBDC’s that easily and any other attempt at the same story will be met with far less compliance.

    Confused.com

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Welshp

    They’re obviously not going to give up the idea of digital IDs anyway (they’ve been in the pipeline a long time and the latest paper was snuck out recently re a ”right to work and rent”). No doubt they’ll find something else to scare the Terminally Terrified with – perhaps starting panic buying and a ration system. Who knows?

    Something wicked this way comes……..

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  crisisgarden

    It’s not about what they say it’s about.

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    Aletheia of Oceania
    Aletheia of Oceania
    3 years ago

    ‘Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster’ – Cockwomble of the Shire of Tiddlywinks.

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    JeremyP99
    JeremyP99
    3 years ago

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-40-among-people-ages-18-64

    The head of OneAmerica insurance said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people.
    “We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”

    OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company that has had its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877. The company has approximately 2,400 employees and sells life insurance, including group life insurance to employers in the state.

    Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.
    “And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago
    Reply to  JeremyP99

    I wonder if they offer medical insurance too. And, if so, do they pay out for ”vaccine injury”?

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    Early Doubter
    Early Doubter
    3 years ago
    Reply to  JeremyP99

    Can you post this onto the main comments below as I think it is quite important. When private business has to pay for all of this, real pushback could begin; his comment that this increase is worse than a one in 200 year catastrophe is amazing: “Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.”

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    JohnK
    JohnK
    3 years ago

    Well, there’s a well known saying “If a politician opens his mouth, he/she is probably lying”. It could be that they are covering their a**e and trying to weasel their way out if it. Carry on the good work with proper criticism of the whole lot!

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    marebobowl
    marebobowl
    3 years ago

    Take a few minutes out of your busy day to read Dr. Jessica Rose’s article today on substack. While you are there, read all that Dr Paul Alexander has to say about well, I will let you read it. It is fascinating. Substack join today🥰

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    Early Doubter
    Early Doubter
    3 years ago

    But face masks in secondary schools is a new restriction

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    Banjones
    Banjones
    3 years ago

    Now if he’d said ”There’s no need for ANY restrictions” that would have been acceptable. As it is – these people just spout the usual weasel words.

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    Newman20
    Newman20
    3 years ago

    He’s posthumous by about two years re the need for no restrictions.

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