It’s often claimed that imposing Covid passports, as many EU countries have done, reduces trust in the health authorities. After all, trying to force someone to doing something isn’t the best way to win their trust. Persuasion usually works better.
However, despite the intuitive plausibility of the idea, good evidence has been hard to come by. A new Danish study changes that. (The study was recently published online, and it hasn’t yet been peer reviewed.)
To examine the effect of Covid passports on trust in the health authorities, Frederik Jørgensen and colleagues analysed data from a repeated daily survey of the Danish population, which has been going since May of 2020.
Crucially, the survey continued throughout November of 2021, during which the Danish government re-introduced Covid passports. Note: the Danish “corona passport” serves as evidence of vaccination or previous infection, so it does at least recognise natural immunity.
On 8th November, the Government held a press conference announcing this decision. During the press conference, Denmark’s Prime Minister explained that life would become “more burdensome” for the unvaccinated, whom he referred to as “a small group that does not play according to the rules”.
The researchers tracked two outcome measures over the weeks before and after the 8th November press conference. The first was simply whether one agreed with the statement, “I trust the political strategy behind the health authorities’ advice.”
The second was based on six statements, including the one above. The other five statements included, “I have been given clear information on the reasons for the health authorities’ advice,” and “The advice of the health authorities are sufficient to prevent the spread of infection.” This composite measure was labelled “collective action motivation”.
The authors main finding is shown in the chart below. It’s important to note that the press conference was held on the first day of week 45.
The interpretation is slightly complicated, so bear with me. Each circle (and associated confidence interval) corresponds to the difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people relative to the benchmark week, which is week 41.
For example, the black circle for week 44 (which is almost exactly on the red zero line) indicates that the difference in trust between vaccinated and unvaccinated people in week 44 was the same as it was in week 41. Units along the y-axis are percentage points.
The key thing to notice is that the circles for weeks 45 and 46 are all below the red zero line. This indicates that the difference in trust between vaccinated and unvaccinated people became significantly larger after the 8th November press conference, with unvaccinated people becoming even less trusting than they were before.
Jørgensen and colleagues’ finding constitutes particularly strong evidence that Covid passports are bad for trust sinces it combines a between-group comparison (vaccinated versus unvaccinated) with a before-after comparison (pre versus post press conference). The size of the effect is between 7 and 13 percentage points, depending on the measure.
Denmark is known to be one of the world’s most trusting countries. And in those characterised by less social trust, the researchers note, “adverse consequences of pressuring unvaccinated may be even more negative”.
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Is it really necessary to have a scientific study prove what everybody already knows, i.e. that civil servants (and that includes the “health authorities”) are third rate individuals everywhere, at all times, without exception? That most of them wants easy unaccountable professional lives where if they make a mistake they will still be retained and if they make a colossal mistake they will probably be promoted? That anyone with any talent would not be found there, but instead would naturally find a home in the private sector?
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Does that headline qualify as ”stating the bl**din obvious”?
This study is only the difference in trust between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, the change in which could be due to a rise in trust by the vaccinated.
What we need is a study on the levels of trust amongst the vaccinated.
Government official: “I’ve got this experimental, rushed “vaccine” for a disease which kills 0.2% of the population. Have a jab?
Me: “No thanks, I’ll pass.
GO: “We really, really want you to have this product; we’re sure it’s safe.”
Me: “Got any evidence to prove safety? Not really? OK, I really, really don’t want to have it.”
GO: “If you don’t take it we’re going to make your life very difficult.”
Me: “Which part of NO didn’t you understand?
GO: “We might make you.”
Me: “I’m done being polite. Fuck off.”
Do they really not understand human behaviour in those who haven’t succumbed to the brainwashing?
Vaccine passports reduce my trust for the simple reason that I cannot understand their rationale. I qualified as a doctor in 1973 so have had a little experience of medicine and science. What is the evidence? Vaccination creates immunity. It does not, the evidence suggests, either stop a person from being infected or from transmitting that infection. It does reduce the risk of getting seriously ill. Proof of vaccination is thus, in a public health sense, useless.
Proof of non-infectivity is, however, provided by a negative lateral flow test. Any passport should contain the result of one such, performed within 12 hours preferably. That’s a passport I could have trust in. If negative you are not infectious. End of.
Even the last idea is a gross over reaction and intrusion into private affairs. Reminding those who are unwell that they stay out of circulation is reasonable, but anything more than that is not.
You imply, then, that a person couldn’t possibly get ‘infected’ within 12 hours of a test.
Covid passports have sod all to do with health, and everything to do with the Great Resetters’ plan to impose Chinese-style autocracy on us all.
Ditch those smartphones NOW – or prepare for neo-serfdom with total surveillance and control, with your ‘social credit’ score determing how much you can spend and on what.
https://archive.org/details/ep-9-catherine-austin-fitts
The ongoing COVID-19 nonsense here in the United States exists solely and exclusively because our governments have failed to use the correct treatment. They used so-called “vaccines” when Japan has just proven, in less than ONE MONTH, that Ivermectin can wipe out the disease. IVM was awarded the Nobel prize for medicine in 2015. One of the 3 most important drugs in human history: Aspirin, Penicillin, and Ivermectin. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
In another recent study it was revealed that kicking a person after they have collapsed to the ground makes the victim trust the assaulter less than refraining from kicking.
Fauci, Gates and Big Pharma – the terrible betrayal of the public health – The Conservative Woman
A bit of contradiction isn’t it, do we get a choice? Same choice as signing the social contract or filling out the police consent form. Oh, my the indoctrination is strong in this one.
I don’t recognise their authority, I certainly didn’t give it to them. FREEDOM!
Not only is the current approach affecting people’s attitude to these vaccines but will affect their attitude to future vaccines.
This is a very good comment. Yes, I believe this will be the case. They have shot themselves in the foot by putting the world on vaccine focus for two years. Many many many of the public would not even have cared or considered picking and choosing immunization strategies based on their own risk assessment. COVID has changed this forever. Oh well…. What you get when you have James Bond Villains without the intelligence.
I’m sure they (big pharma) considered this and it did not matter a single bit given the perspective of immediate and prolonged compulsory profits. Vaccines used to be loss drivers in the past anyways – for the pharma industry it was really a situation in which they only could win.
Perhaps it was deliberate. They don’t care about public health, do they? So the more of us that succumb to something by refusing future vaccines, the better.
Or even current ones into the future. A real ‘side effect’ of manipulating the definition of ‘vaccine’ to suit the promotion of the product on offer, perhaps.
Useful study if policies were about trust.
Its about control through submission so the authorities don’t care about trust, just about numbers submitting. Those who don’t are useful scapegoats.
Vaxxd vs Unvaxxd blood pictures. Samples taken live on camera and put straight under the microscope in front of the patients with the film rolling.
From this clip blood drawings start at 11 mins:
Worms Hatching From Eggs? Researchers Present Strange Vax Microscopy Findings & Blood Comparisons
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BDz8rPPlRo1N/
1 UNVAXXD BLOOD :
2 VAXXD BLOOD:
3 VAXXD BLOOD:
4 UNVAXXD BLOOD:
5 VAXXD BLOOD:
6 UNVAXXD BLOOD:
7 VAXXD BLOOD:
8 UNVAXXD BLOOD:
Hands up who wants their blood to look like numbers two, three, five and seven. Any takers?
And yes I know some of the labels dont match, but if you watch the presentation, you will see they are individually drawn samples and images taken directly from the live microscope images.
‘Worms hatching …’ sounds like error/unintentional scaremongering. Cells clumping and clotting sounds like Dr Fleming’s observation.
Late last night, I vaguely recall watching a bitchute video of BioNTech’s CEO saying he hadn’t taken his own product. I was getting rather sleepy by that time.
If anyone knows more, I’d appreciate it. Bear in mind that if this was early 2021 he’d have the excuse that he didn’t want to get in the way of all the older vulnerable people queuing up for it. I don’t recall the date on the video.
Its not the best title but if you watch the presentation, they are super serious researchers and professionls, you can glean that despite the obvious language issues. They display the kind of integrity we are lacking right now
I posted that but I couldnt confirm either way. Im fairly sure its recent, it was from a channel which posts up to date material at least but could be wrong
Does it matter? In the current situation ‘Trust’ in Public Health is an illusion, and, in fact, a negative quality that is better substituted by ‘gullibility’.
In fact, anything that leads to mistrust in this context can only be positive in the short term, since the validity of trust in governance has been so thoroughly distorted.
Absolutely right. And congratulations to someone who bothered to read Noah Carl’s post.
They’re the nail in the coffin of trust I have in the Health Authorities at this point. Why should ‘health’ be an ‘authority’ even?
It was a popular word to use in the 1950s, just like National Parks and White Fish.
Anyone who uses “authority” without understanding that it means “the biggest, most ruthless mob” is going to get on the cattle trains without a squeak of protest.
Small correction to the ‘he’ in para 5: The Prime Minister of Denmark, Mette Frederiksen is a woman.
With or without a female penis?
Apparently so is Jabcinda Ardern, who’d a thunk it.
Next thing you’re going to tell us Angela Merkel is a woman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq55vOwKpTM
Interesting what Cristian Terhes says
‘Denmark’s Prime Minister explained that life would become “more burdensome” for the unvaccinated, whom he referred to as “a small group that does not play according to the rules”.’
We go by the law, not your arbitrary, ever changing bs rules, you totalitarian asshole.
Is treason still on the Danish law books (or is it removed by an acolyte of Arch tyrant Blair)?
If so, she should be strung up. It’s the law.
No idea, but ‘he’ is a ‘she’ apparently, so another Adern/Australian equivalent?
Unfortunately studies such as these are irrelevant. Globocap are giving the orders and national governments are told what measures to introduce. The views of the slave populations are of no interest to Globocap.
Do as you are told.
Why did Gavin Newsom and family take a vacation in Cabo, Mexico?I think he went there for stem cell treatments to treat his GBS. He had to bring the entire family along because if he went by himself, that would be too hard to explain.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/why-did-gavin-newsom-and-family-take
I think the idea of the pass being about the unvaxxed is a red herring. This group in countries like NL and DK is so small it is negligible – unless you count the kids, who don’t need the vax.
No, this is more about *increasing* the trust of the idiots who still believe that the governments of the West are doing their best to keep us all safe. They do not see this as a punishment of the unvaxxed, it is a reward for the vaxxed. As it is a reward, it is positive, so they will be happy to keep complying with the x number of vaxxes required going forward (I’m assuming the number itself will be determined by when enough people wake up to the fact they are being injected with snake oil that serves no purpose or when pfisser et al. feel they’ve milked this poison as far as they can – until the exclusion of liability is lifted, the latter will happen on the first day of never).
I had lunch with a friend the other day, a level-headed lady who had no problems having lunch at my place as I am now an untermensch,… Read more »
Yes.I get this too – it’s your choice to be discriminated against basically. Which depending on what the ‘punishment’ ends up being makes it no longer a choice…
Blaming the victim, an essential tool in every demagogue’s repertoire.
When they reintroduced the vax passes here in Denmark a few weeks back, I had a flight to catch back to Blighty for which I needed a bullshit PCR (they’re free here, even for travel) thus booked my slot
I’ve been to the testing location a few times before and it always seemed busy – the ‘trusting Danes’ have never been shy about testing for sniffles. Anyhows, I rocked up this time and the queue was ‘unprecedentedly’ out the door and round the block. The testing centre has a massive car park which was full, cars parked anywhere and everywhere.
Initially I thought folk had taken bedwetting to a whole new level, wringing their sheets to fill an Olympic pool. Eventually the queue reached the entrance to the testing centre (it snakes back and forth inside like airport security), only to discover the queue for ‘with symptoms’ was empty and that this was for ‘without symptoms’.
Then it dawned on me that they had just reintroduced the passes and all these folk were getting tested so they could go for dinner, cinema etc.
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The current loss of faith in the health authorities is nothing compared with what will happen once everyone realises the negative impact the vaccines will have had on health/wellness.
Will everyone actually realise this? That will be tantamount to losing their religion, something most people will go to great lengths to avoid.
I still can’t figure out if the moronic variant push is to keep the party going or if it’s a convenient out from the mess that has been made – it’s mega-ultra-waaaaaayyyyy more infectious than any other variant ever, BUT – just like the common cold, so no need to push further vaxxing (which conveniently doen’s work for this variant) but allow natural immunity to occur. Life can go back to normal, everyone happy, investigations won’t be completed until those in power now have long gone.
A cruise ship with fully vaxxinated crew and passengers experienced an outbreak of covid (presumably spurious +ve testmb ut who knows) but that sort of thing has to make the dimmest think something’s not right with the bs they have been fed.
The original cruise ship outbreak on the Diamond Pricess has been memory-holed. That happened late 2019/very early 2020(?) and the whole ship was quarantined at a port in Japan. Approx zero fatalities from memory and not everyone caught the disease.
Exactly this!
Diamond Princess: 3800ish on board, 700ish infections, 14 deaths. Not especially infectious or deadly. My go to quote for the cultists.
But but but… the sort of people who go on cruise ships probably only frequented the same restaurant / bar so the virus didn’t get to spread much (that one is the stupidest I’ve heard – courtesy indoctrinated husband).
No. the ship’s ventilation system did a great job of ensuring that EVERYONE ON BOARD was exposed to the virus.
I’m guessing the average age of passengers on cruise ships is somewhat advanced, so bars and restaurants, plus entertainment events would likely be the places for mixing and catching covid. Unless they were unusually sprightly for their age, there would have been less of the sort of behaviour exhibited by Hancock and Professor Pantsdown.
So 0.3-0.4% in a largely elderly population?
The14 fatalities on board the Diamond Princess pro rata matched that of the general population, all of them among the oldest of an elderly passenger rosta which told us exactly what need to be known about Covid before it every reached Europe properly.
They were said to have been isolated in their cabins but that was done late and in a slovenly fashion with confused passengers forever wondering around on deck bumping into the unisolated crew.
And the RN have done the same thing, on one of their really new vessels; they don’t talk about it very much.
The article in yesterday’s roundup by the covid physician rather indicates that they will not connect the injections with any subsequent adverse effects (that was a good read by the way: https://tcp.art.blog/2021/11/25/all-hail-covid/)
And now the propaganda being rolled out is that the heart problems are due to the stress of lockdowns and even Covid itself, any qualms over their religion that may have been tentatively forming can be quashed with sigs of relief all round.
They push everything as the side effect of the covid. I was just ‘laughing’ yesterday when article came out about stillbirths are cause of covid! Of course! The side effect is being discussed in the anti mRNA community since months and now suddenly main stream media pushes it as a covid side effect…
Just as the anti-vaxxers push everything as the side effect of the vaccine. So they should understand each other very well as their basic (lack of) thinking is the same.
The only issue I see that vaccine side effect start to circulate for example on TrialSiteNews and months later is blamed on covid. It should happen reverse. MSM should scaremonger first and ‘conspiracy theorists’ should blame on vaccine later. Then I would agree with you. (same with clots, myocarditis, stroke etc. blamed for months and now all are side effects of omicron…)
Vaxxees losing their religion and Vaxxers keeping the party going, two very good metaphors.
REM predicted exactly this quite some time ago.
Sadly in the first party John.
Wow it’s nice to read a non terrifying and dystopian prediction. I’m going to take that one to bed this evening!
And when will that be, considering all the obfuscation and propaganda that is being dished out with it all?
will they be allowed to realise it? just look at the current heart problems apparently caused by missed treatment and stress and “covid” but definitely not by the “vaccines”. There must be endless opportunities for these people to spin it the way they want it.
BBC
An item about a mass murderer
Former health secretary Matt Hancock has been speaking about his breach of social distancing guidelines, which led to his resignation earlier this year.
The West Suffolk MP stood down in June after pictures were published in The Sun showing him in an embrace with a colleague.
“What I really feel is that was a failure of leadership,” he says.
“I hope that by being straightforward and apologising and resigning, people can see that I get it and I know I need to do a good job representing the people.”
Speaking to the BBC at a mass vaccination event at Newmarket Racecourse, he says he is “sorry for all the people I let down”.
“People have been forgiving which I’m grateful for.”
‘showing him in an embrace with a colleague.’ So that’s what they are calling it now
‘Straightforward’…….Ha
“People have been forgiving which I’m grateful for.” Matt delusional as ever. Matt it is the unforgiving ones you need to be worried about
> showing him in an embrace with a colleague.
Er it showed him cheating on his wife and breaking rules he wrote for others!
>mass vaccination event
COVID is a cult, one that has infected the government.
What happens at a mass vaccination event? Do they all get spiked then have a session of worshipping a large NHS logo (while wearing their muzzles, of course)? Are attendees required to bring saucepans to bang?
They must be getting keen, rather than being asked to take a £40.00 taxi return journey (+ waiting time) to an out of town mass vax centre I am now told that there are a ‘number of pop up stations’ within my (small) city.
When my, previously keen, neighbour popped up last week it was all locked shut with a sign reading
“Sorry, run out of vaccines, please call back tomorrow”.
It’s a bit like those mass baptismal events in a river, but less fun (no singing allowed).
Did you see the later YouTube vid of him playing the ‘ordinary guy’ to people around his constituency?
He only went and posted it himself 😂
‘Getting it’ after the event suggests he’s either disingenuous (likely) or a bit slow (equally possible).
I will not, under any circumstances, take a jab I do not need for a condition I have already had. Any attempt to do this via force will be treated assault and responded to accordingly. Any government that mandates this is illegitimate.
Many of them are certainly ‘bastards’.
Actually, the saddest part is that they are both legitimate and supported by majorities.
‘During the press conference, Denmark’s Prime Minister explained that life would become “more burdensome” for the unvaccinated, whom he referred to as “a small group that does not play according to the rules”.’
Err, Denmark’s Prime Minister is a woman.
So the unjabbed trust the government less? Well, blow me down …
Well, I suppose referring to her as a man just underlines her point about not playing ‘according to the rules’.
re: No10 party breaking guidelines , matt hancock and all the other breaches
I think its great – its proof (if any more were needed) that this is not about health. They don’t think its about health or they wouldn’t just have masks on for the cameras
Covid Passports …
put yellow stars on it.
Make it THE symbol of medical apartheid
Sorry, that is blatant copyright infringement. (/s)
Pretty sure that particular copyright must have expired by now.
That’s one impressive ‘grocery store’. It looks more like a shopping mall.
It’s a Kaufland mall in Romania, and the fence was put in place precisely to separate grocery shopping (which is “ok” for unvaccinated/untested there) from non-grocery shopping (which is “not ok”). Now you can thank the OP for spreading unchecked misinformation, as is the custom among “sceptics”.
Romania, not Germany. Not that it would look any different here.
Off subject
I was a customer of Avro Energy
When Avro went bust I was moved to Octopus Energy
It would appear that decision was made by Ofgen
I was not consulted and nor did I agree to the move. I have not signed a contract with Octopus
I continue to use gas and electricity and have yet to receive a bill
My question is. Is any of this legally enforceable?
What if large numbers of the population decided not to pay their energy bills?
It’s all very well going on protest marches where you are set up to be attacked by the police but there are alternatives
What if it became widely known that these bills are unenforceable?
Would the selfish bedwetters also join in? I know they like free stuff
Anyway, I’m about to push this experiment in civil disobedience to the limit
I will report back
Don’t forget your data. Did you give permission for it to be given to Octopus? Complain to the Information Commissioner.
DEMAND it be deleted.
Look in the Data Protecn Act 2018 about ‘processing personal data’. Even passing it on may count as ‘processing’.
Also look up legal cases like Halliday 2013 where he got £750 for some minor malpractice and the judge said that even more trivial breaches of data protecn justified some damages … at the time she meant about £250 I think.
Halliday was a case in the higher courts, so set a precedent.
Wouldn’t that result in a cessation of gas/electricity supply?
Some friends of yours, in the mid 1990s (so things may have changed, and the circumstances are not identical, but) moved house. The new house was with electricity supplier X, but the estate agent switched the supplier to Y without informing our friends (I guess for a commission).
When the first bill arrived, they found out what had happened, and refused to pay until supplier Y showed them a signed document to confirm that they had switched, which obviously Y could not. This went on for about 18 months before Y gave up and they switched to some other supplier.
In the mean time, they got 18 months of free electricity.
Dont bother, those companies are not “energy suppliers” they a simply brokers selling you a payment plan.
You might have paid for your alcohol in this shop or that but the real supplier is the brewery.
This applies exactly the same to large commercial users of energy where the likes of EDF spend millions persuading Tesco to pay them for exactly the same energy as might be billed by another ‘energy supplier’.
The reason those companies went bust is that they took a punt on the futer cost of energy and got it wrong. Presumably Octopuse got it right, or perhaps less wrong.
I suppose you might have fun and games with the data side of things as outlined by others much more knowledgeable than I although the small details of your contract probably give Ofcom permission to do what they did rather than have you cut off indefinitely while you arrange an alternative broker.
All these suppliers (Avro, Octopus etc) are licensees. Presumably you signed some terms and conditions with Avro, which meant that you could be transferred to another licensee without prior consultation in the event of administration etc.
There is legislation underpinning this that allows Ofgem to do this. In fact, the terms of being a licensee include that Ofgem can transfer customers to you without your consent. That, in fact, is what has happened: customers have been transferred to other licensees against the wishes of the licensees in many cases, under the provisions of ‘Supplier of Last Resort’. However, as a licensee you either allow Ofgen to force this upon you, as a condition of holding a licence, or you get out of energy supply altogether (i.e. surrender the licence and go bust yourself).
Trust is irrelevant, only compliance.
Anyone who’s already taken two clot shots and is professing to kick against the third prick, for example: their actions speak louder than their token protests.
Israels uptake of the latest clo shot is currently running at 44% since it became available in October. It would appear compliance is waning.
It won’t undo the initial damage from the first clot-shots
Hence the ramping up of the fear factor over Omicron as a means to get folk rushing to get their next jab.
The behavioural manipulation through propaganda is horrific.
Would you rather the double vaxxed did not change their tune to side with the Pure White (oops) Cleanbloods?
It’s no different to a masked old bat flinging off her muzzle after 18 months to scream FREEDOM at the top of her lungs only to hear you telling her not to bother.
I have explained before (not that is anybody’s business) the reason I took the first two doses which had nothing to with either Covid nor vaxxes but rather to avoid complicating treatment for two far more serious medical conditions that arose earlier this year.
Concluded and successful treatment btw which is my the 3rd primary vax PLUS booster are not required.
I rather thought that Rogerborg’s post agreed in sentiment with yours.
I read Rogerborg’s post as saying those who have already taken the twin vax yet balk at taking the third are guilty of
“Token protests”