Uh-oh. I’ve been ‘fact-checked’ again. This time by the oracles at a website called ‘Logically‘, which I can only assume was a name chosen ironically. The claim they are ‘fact-checking’ is “COVID-19 vaccines don’t work because most people in U.K. hospitals with the virus are vaccinated”, which is a bad start since it’s not a claim I make in the article in question, or indeed anywhere. In fact, in the article I state that on current data the vaccines appear to “protect people well against severe disease and death”, meaning the ‘fact check’ is aiming at a straw man that bears no relation to the piece.
Having stuffed her target full of straw, the author ‘Pallavi’ spends most of her ‘fact check’ wholly missing the target. Alleging that my article “fails to disclose all the details mentioned in the [UKHSA] report, thereby misrepresenting official data and promoting vaccine misinformation”, she points out that the UKHSA cautions against using the raw data to estimate vaccine effectiveness. Indeed it does, and in the article in question I do not use the raw data to estimate vaccine effectiveness. The article is not about vaccine effectiveness. It is responding to a claim in a Guardian article that “in hospital, COVID-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated”. It is making the point that, according to official data, 71% of adult Covid hospital patients and 82% of Covid deaths in the month ending November 14th were in vaccinated people – which is indisputable, and the ‘fact check’ does not dispute it. The point was not to estimate vaccine effectiveness from these figures – to do that we’d need to take into account the proportions vaccinated and unvaccinated, at a minimum – but to counter the claim that “in hospital, COVID-19 has largely become a disease of the unvaccinated”.
In the course of supposedly refuting my errors the ‘fact check’ even quotes from “a recent report by the Official [sic] for National Statistics” which claims that “the age-adjusted risk of deaths involving COVID-19 between January and September 2021 was 32 times greater in unvaccinated people than fully vaccinated people”. This is the same ONS report that the U.K. Statistics Authority publicly criticised for being misleading in its use of statistics for making precisely that claim.
Pallavi writes that “the COVID-19 pandemic has given rise to a lot of potentially dangerous misinformation”, and, libellously, refers to the Daily Sceptic as “a website that often propagates COVID-19 misinformation”. Hmm, unlike Logically, which publishes ‘fact checks’ that attack straw men and cite discredited reports.
Meanwhile, the Sunday Times has added its authority to the Guardian‘s unsubstantiated claims about hospitals being deluged with unvaccinated Covid patients. It published an article today stating that intensive care beds are “filled with unvaccinated Covid patients”. The paper quotes Professor Stephen Powis, the National Medical Director of NHS England, saying: “Data shows that the overwhelming majority of people admitted to intensive care with Covid are not fully vaccinated. Since July one in four critical beds have been consistently occupied by a Covid patient, with the latest statistics available showing three quarters of them are unvaccinated.”
What “data” and “latest statistics” is Powis referring to? The Sunday Times article containing his quote doesn’t say, but if you click on the words “overwhelming majority” it takes you to another piece in today’s paper, this one by Dr. Rachel Clarke. The subhead of that article is “Some 75% of those suffocating in intensive care with the coronavirus are unvaccinated” and she repeats this claim in her piece, stating: “Of the Covid patients treated in intensive care in recent months, the majority – nearly 75% according to the latest data – have chosen not to be vaccinated.”
Earlier today, Toby asked Rachel Clarke on Twitter if she could point him towards the “data” she’s referring to and she replied by citing the latest ICNARC report.
Is this the data both she and Professor Powis are referring to or just Dr. Clarke? A similar tweet from Toby to Stephen Powis went unanswered, but it’s not unreasonable to assume they’re both citing the latest ICNARC report, not least because the latest one includes for the first time a breakdown of vaccinated and unvaccinated patients receiving critical care in English NHS hospitals. (Clarke refers to separate NHSE data showing the same thing, but I can’t find anything on the internet.)
Now there’s a slight problem with the ICNARC data Clarke cites, which is that it only covers the period May 1st to July 31st.
So is the data for May 1st to July 31st what Professor Powis means by “since July” and what Dr. Clarke means by “recent months”?
The problem with extrapolating from this ICNARC data to make sweeping statements about the current ratio of unvaccinated to vaccinated Covid patients in ICU – as the Sunday Times subhead does and Dr. Clarke does, and Professor Powis appears to – is that it stops before the Delta wave gets properly underway and before the surge in infections in the vaccinated over the summer, when the epidemic became dominated by vaccinated people.
If this is what’s going on, it’s reminiscent of the ‘sleight of hand’ by NHS England chief Amanda Pritchard earlier this month, when she claimed that: “We have had 14 times the number of people in hospital with COVID-19 than we saw this time last year.” It quickly turned out that by “this time last year” she was referring to August rather than October or November, and was widely ridiculed for such an obviously incorrect and scaremongering statement when Covid hospital admissions at the time were plainly lower than in autumn 2020. She never apologised and instead tried to make it look like she was misunderstood, which, if Powis’s latest intervention is of a similar kind, suggests there may be no intention in the upper echelons of the health service to communicate clearly and accurately about the current risks posed by the virus.
In fact, given the data from UKHSA over the autumn showing a higher proportion of Covid hospitalisations and deaths in the vaccinated (67% and 82% respectively in the week 46 report), it seems most unlikely that three quarters of Covid ICU patients in the same reporting period were unvaccinated. Why, though, do we not have data in the public domain more recent than July so we can see for ourselves rather than having to extrapolate and speculate? We have up-to-date data on hospitalisations and deaths by vaccination status, so why doesn’t the UKHSA add a column to its table for ICU admissions as well?
The biggest problem with Powis’s statement is not that it appears to be a misleading way of communicating statistics, but that it is being used against the unvaccinated in what seems to be a concerted effort to turn them into scapegoats and pariahs. “These are beds that would have historically been used to provide life-saving surgeries for the most seriously ill patients,” he says. This echoes the words of the anonymous medic in the Guardian last week: “If everyone got vaccinated, hospitals would be under much less pressure; this is beyond debate. Your wait for your clinic appointment/operation/diagnostic test/A&E department would be shorter. Your ambulance would arrive sooner. Reports of the pressure on the NHS are not exaggerated, I promise you. … Most of the resources that we are devoting to Covid in hospital are now being spent on the unvaccinated.”
This is an ugly and dangerous road. Not only is there currently no publicly available data to back up these assertions – at least, nothing more recent than July 31st – but even if there was it would be no excuse to demonise and delegitimise the minority who, for whatever reason, remain unvaccinated. Our health service chiefs, and the journalists who report on their comments, need to do better than this.
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More statistical gymnastics from our Ministry of Truth where 2 + 2 must always equal 5.
The tragedy is the majority of the population are too cowed or innumerate to challenge this bullshit.
Sadly plenty of them just like having a group to attack and /or blame.
as you are doing?
Yeah look it’s a question of who does it first, isn’t it. Someone started the process and it sure as hell wasn’t anyone on this side of the argument.
“what seems to be a concerted effort to turn them into scapegoats and pariahs.”
That is the plan. And anecdotally it appears to be working. If they can get the bedwetters really motivated the introduction of vaccine passports will go through.
In the meantime it behooves all of us to go precisely to every shop and transport area that has new mask mandates and determinedly not wear a mask. When asked choose your level if belligerence. I’m going with
“No I’m done with that nonsense”
Tuesday will be fun.
I would suggest an alternative, about 1 year ago I bought a balaclava, after being challenged by various TFL workers. Haven’t been back on the tube since, but am going to wear it if asked to wear a face covering. If enough of us do it it will look like a mass bank robbery is about to take place by very eco friendly thieves.
This was my face cover Summer of 2020, (early days of the bollix) Wore it to Masks & Spencer to see if there would be any reaction from any of the cattle. Not even a moo, baa, or a sideways glance. What have we become?
suggesting they are going to fine us all 200 quid for not wearing a face cover, lots of court cases I hope will ensu
This is like arguing with climate change zeolots. We don’t learn.
Mark Twain, “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”
Christ they’re not giving up are they. Still nobody lining up at our local jabbatoir. Do you think more people now getting wise to the lies?
That’s also been the case at our local jabbatorium and testatent for weeks!
Ours appears to have closed down a while back. The testing site taking up one of the town centre car parks (never saw anyone there apart fromt the bored-looking site-minder in hi-vis) went a few months ago too.
Don’t let the bastards grind you down Will! They can’t suppress the truth forever and the day of reckoning can’t come soon enough.
Illegitemi non carborundum
It is also true that 100% of deaths with COVID, prior to October 2021, were people who had not had their life saving booster. Fact.
Sometimes you just have to laugh at the absurdity of all this so here we go.
The VACCINATED FUTURE for all of us…..unless we can stop the EVIL globalist who control us (brandnewtube.com)
Link doesn’t work, I get a 404 page not found. Is there an alternate link or has the video been taken down?
Thanks, I’ve reset it so hopefully will work now.
That works, brilliant!
Tyler is one of the great discoveries of these times, along with JP Sears 😁.
Love it! Well worth a watch
Brilliant!
Great vid. Scarily prophetic warning but with a smile. Excellent.
“Sleight of hand” = conscious, calculated evil lies, with the aim of self-aggrandisement, covering up earlier mistakes and lies, with no regard for the consequences.
So. Is the Daily Sceptic going to start legal action against this “Pallavi”?
I hope so, as there are few things that engender contempt faster than making idle threats.
Just the very fact that they have not produced any recent data on ICU stats and are relying on poisonous anecdotes is proof enough for me that the claims are bs!
They tried this a few weeks ago with pregnant women and it turned out to be absolute tosh.
Excellent article Will. I know you wouldn’t say it, but the reason there is no data since July is because the data they are holding back show the vaccines are even worse than we all imagine. If the data framed the vaccines in a positive light they would be front page of the Graun and the BBC.
Absolutely. It all smacks of desperation now.
There seems to be an effect where in the early weeks of each covid wave there are relatively more unvaccinated affected. This then reverts to a more even distibution. There’s even data to suggest that it reverses again about a month later to give relatively more vaccinated affected (I’d note that even then there is a protective effect of vaccine, only much reduced).
I’m not quite sure of why this is the case, but there are suggestions of delayed infections in the vaccinated (or, they have asymptomatic infection for a number of weeks, presumably mediated by vaccine protection, until eventually the infection breaks through into symptomatic covid.
regardless of why, given that the summer covid wave started very late June and that the ICU data runs to end July, it is likely that this would concentrate ICU admissions in the data into the unvaccinated group — I’d suggest that August’s data would show a reversal of this trend.
It is a shame that there isn’t better data available to fully explore this trend — it is a fascinating aspect of how this virus is existing within the vaccinated vs unvaccinated and might inform as to how this viral epidemic might proceed (ie, it is important to know if the asymptomatic-vaccinated-infected are acting as a viral reservoir).
When Spector was kneecapped in July, Will Jones made the comment that it was a shame the data showing a marked discrepancy between vaxed and unvaxed was being disappeared because it might shed light on how te vaccines are working. This wilful memory holing of science is outrageous.
“It is a shame that there isn’t better data available …”
But, of course, that would bugger the Narrative entirely.
The Jabberwock feeds off duff data – thus the destruction of even the basic (industry controlled) norms of proper testing.
The more I look at Sucharit Bakdhi’s analysis and the other ‘Doctors for Covid Ethics’ stance, the more I am persuaded. After all, they predicted the revolt of the immune system and resultant clotting and other side effects – and, of course, the essential failure of the snake oil.
Ir is all too obvious what is happening from the vaccine surveillance report, if people care to look.
but too many are looking away, fearful.
Correct.
Holding back on data, no one bringing them to account, this is criminal behaviour
These self-appointed ‘fact checkers’ really are a ghastly breed. It’s bad enough that these delusional specimens have the audacity to present themselves as safekeepers of truth. That alone is utterly nauseating. But these ‘fact checkers’ almost invariably demonstrate their sheer inability to be objective. For heaven’s sake, they can barely muster the honesty to represent their targets fairly.
This is truly the age of unreason. The real irony is that these people think they’re a type of rational elite. Wrap your mind around that!
Fact checkers seem to be very similar to paedophile hunters, although they probably don’t all wear trakkie bottoms 24/7.
Trouble is, the odious, thick-as-mince Spring creature was recruited to spearhead the trend with her breathlessly garbled witterings, and got away with it.
That set a nice low bar for the likes of this stuff to proliferate.
Who is paying logically to do this?
I did my own fact checking and it appears she’s paid by Lizard-in-Chief, Supreme Lord Justice Zuck.
Yoou mean Zuck the F**k. Now why does that not surprise me?
Is a ‘repoter’ like a reporter?
Who spell-checks the fact-checkers?
Brilliant irony 🙂
Their get-out is whining about ‘nasty trolls’ and ‘online hate’ for pointing out their lax standards and all-round mediocrity.
A brief look at the “Logically” website suggests that the method it uses to “fact-check” anything is to refer back to other twisted or misinterpreted reports from plainly biased sources. It is akin to using “The Kraken Awakes” as a proof of extraterrestrial invasion.
As usual nowadays, “Believe nothing and trust no one”.
Oh the irony!
I note that the NHS uses ONS(2020) data for the size of the population. Do they know that there have been more vaccinations in those aged between 60-64 and 75-79 than actually exist in the country according to that estimate? Using the NIMS data is also troublesome, but at least it has enough people to cover current vaccination rates. (it isn’t clear how they considered this in their data — did they subtract the ‘negative number of unvaccinated’ from the troublesome age groups, or did they treat negative numbers of
unvaccinated as ‘zero’ for convenience?)
I find it remarkable that the government doesn’t know how many people there are in the country (or, that their estimate range is just so large). You’d think that they’d have a fair grasp on this, but no.
“You’d think that they’d have a fair grasp on this, but no.”
It’s a long time since the 2011 census, which was only an estimate of the legally resident population. Different groups have different levels of ability to complete the census forms, willingness to complete them and honesty in completing them: there was apparently an Arab living in my part of the village, but I reckon that was Joe the Gypsy -I suspect he’s ironically nicknamed – taking the piss.
The census takers claimed to have adjusted for this but I wasn’t convinced,because in order to do so they’d have had to be waythitht.
It is, of course, possible to have counted people legally entering and leaving the country since then, but I think it was Michael Howard who decided not to do that back in the 90s.
Nobody knows how many people have illegally entered the UK.
Is it not possible to prosecute this man for blatant incitement based on lies. This surely cannot be legal, for someone in authority to lie and manipulate like this and get away with it.
So the NHS would be perfect in every single way just like it was pre-covid, hang on…..
This is throwing the gauntlet down for sure; TY & co please may you get a response from Powis that if data exists which disproves his statement, will he resign and sacrifice his gold plated tax payer funded DB pension (OK the last bit is gratuitous, mea culpa)?
Please can the ONS/UKHSA data be mined for “the proof” ahead of that categorically affirmative Powis statement (if of course it exists).
If not can TY get him to produce the data that backs up “Most of the resources..”
Am I the only one who thinks this is bizarre? If it is true, who is stupid enough to think that anyone who has survived the last couple of years unvaxxed or who has allegedly had covid and recovered is now going to start the long trail of 3+ jabs with uncertain health outcomes and no return of their rights? Why do the vaxxed care? It only should bolster their sense of having been more sensible than the unvaxxed, otherwise they need to be honest and admit that they are terrified of catching covid from an unvaxxed person compared to catching it from a fellow vaxxed one or put simply they do not really trust in the Vax.
I’d also like to see their calculations for figure 26 and 27 in the ICU stats document — I can’t get anywhere near to their data using the other data in that document and historical vaccination records.
A very well articulated destruction of the fact check. Great work Will!
I think the NHS are playing with the term ‘not fully vaccinated’ to exclude a large proportion of people who are vaccinated. It’s defined I believe as someone more than 14 day after their third jab or between 14 days and 6 months of their second jab. So that’s how they are trying to justify their claims by excluding a large chunk of the vaccinated.
Of course it’s impossible to see this as anything other than dishonest and deliberately misleading.
It was clear to me several months ago that the vaccines don’t work. But the main reason I’m not getting jabbed is to not become an extra statistic for petty little commissars like Pallavi, Pritchard & Powis to be able to use to demonize normal sane members of the public who refuse to be cowed by Covid extremism.
It would be beneficial to understand exactly why the NHS is under so much pressure at the moment — it isn’t covid, because the data clearly show it to be only a small fraction of admissions.
Perhaps the NHS could release data on the prior covid infection status and vaccination status of all admissions as well as covid — that way we could perhaps start to understand other aspects of this problem beyond the trite ‘the unvaccinated are spoiling it for everyone (but we won’t give details)‘
We know from the ONS data that about 5% of all all cause deaths in England are in the unvaccinated. And that data tentatively indicates that even when covid labelled death rises in the unvaccinated, there is no corresponding rise in all cause death in the unvaccinated (at least not relative to the vaccinated).
Perhaps 5% of ICU is occupied by the unvaccinated and 95% by the vaccinated. It’s that sort of order.
The trouble with the UKHSA hospital and deaths data is that it only refers to covid labelled hospitalisations and covid labelled deaths, albeit the covid labelled deaths in the unvaccinated still only account for about 19% of all such covid labelled deaths.
So yes we should be provided with data on the vaccination status of all admissions and all in ICU regardless of whether they have a positive test or not.
And this is a chart showing this 5%. Are we really supposed to believe that the unvaccinated (the blue column on the right of that chart) are causing the NHS major issues? It’s too silly to contemplate such nonsense.
Exactly. Even at this coarse level, Powis’s statement isn’t backed up by the data.
We have to accept that pole-climbers like Powis have no morality and will say anything for advancement.
That corruption a potential problem in any society, but in one corrupted to this extent, it’s lethal.
Alex Berenson discusses something similar in his latest post https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/the-english-data-on-vaccines-and/comments – towards the end of the longish post he looks at UK all cause mortality in the over 60s and notes that for the vaxxed it went up 20% between May and September, but for the unvaxxed it declined.
Hell will freeze over before they release such data.
Thank you again, Will.
Misleading is what this government and its adherents do.
Is there a spike in heart attacks and strokes at present over this time last year?
If that is correct, as some people have speculated, then that would be a bit more for the NHS to explain viz. the impact upon beds occupied and resources taken.
“Spike in heart attacks and strokes?”
You bet.
Three close to me and three I have been told of:
My Dad – stroke. Double injected.
Work colleague of my wife – stroke. Double injected.
Old friend of mine died of heart attack less than 24 hours after being “boosted.”
Three other strokes and the reports are second hand.
Heart problems are rife.
Quelle surprise! A known provoker of clotting produces a spike in strokes and heart attacks.
Now, how could the ‘unvaccinated’ be made responsible?
As I already wrote once in the past: Even if this was true, it would be the wrong kind of statistic. In order to estimate what kind of load unvaccinated people place on the NHS (they’ve all paid taxes and are thus perfectly entitled to making use of it), it’s necessary to know how many unvaccinated people catching COVID end up in intensive care and not how many people in ICU are unvaccinated.
This number is obviously available and that it doesn’t get used for Corona propaganda strongly suggests it’s not suitable for that.
Well no surprise to see Will dish out another intellectual mauling of the opposition, although i’m guessing it must be getting easier and easier given the web of lies they’ve spun.
Unfortunately the purpose of their statements is not for intellectual rigour, but to spread misinformation to the uninformed masses, of whom very few will seek counter arguments especially if only appearing on a website like DS.
I’m quite warmed by them name-dropping DS as a source of misinformation though – clearly you’re hitting some targets guys, so please keep up the good work.
When so many lies are being told what can be believed. What are they getting for this?I hope they think its worth it. May they live in misery in return for the misery they have caused
An awakening among the public is going to happen regardless of what they do. The true architects remain in the shadows, their puppets on display are desperate because they have committed to an agenda they know is going to fail.
2022 is going to be rough as hell, but just keep holding the line and humanity will get through this.
Tend to agree.
Stand firm,everyone.
It is all very simple, there are new rules that have retrospectively nullified the old ones, think 1984 memory hole.
You are now fully vaccinated two weeks after your third vaccine.
So if you die of an adverse event or end up in hospital with covid after your first, second or third jab (unless two clear weeks have elapsed after the third) then you died unvaccinated.
So in reality all those that have died over the last year died unvaccinated which proves the vaccines are safe and effective.
ICNARC have no excuse for not including vaccination status in their “patient characteristics”. It’s absurd to think they don’t have that data, and the fact they don’t include it in their weekly reports is deeply suspect.
They also have an interesting definition of “unvaccinated”: “either no linked vaccination record in NIMS or first dose of vaccine received within 14 days prior to the positive COVID-19 test”. The possibility that having the vaccination may have led to testing positive, developing severe illness and then being admitted to ICU is not an issue, apparently. What a fit up!
The hospitals in Leicester have downgraded their covid response from level 3 to level 2.
They are no longer needing to use the extra ITU capacity and numbers in hospital with covid are falling (both coincidental diagnoses and those who are ill with the respiratory issues classically associated with covid-19 with a positive pcr test).
There is a full mix of vaccinated and unvaccinated patients (about 50/50 a couple of weeks ago – I don’t have up to date figures).
Certainly everybody I know in real life who have had covid-19 in the last couple of months are double and triple jabbed.
Those of us who are unjabbed all had it much longer ago and are wandering unscathed completely confused about what all the carry on is about.
Thank you.
TOH works in a “Leicester Hospital” – she comes home, daily, recounting the degree to which they are “under pressure” – she means that the management are SAYING they are under pressure – it is Winter after all; it is also the case that her clinical colleagues (she is not clinical) are”broken”, exhausted and worn out after nearly two years of this Government supported panic and the inadequate management response.
What is NOT getting any coverage is the extent to which Hospitals are still affected by CV isolating staff following “positive tests” – data for the % of clinical specialists across all departments would be illuminating – and data for exactly how many medics have left since say November 2019, each month, how many have come back “part time’ ( a feature of their built up final salary pensions too complex to go into here ) how many replacements have been appointed, what percentage of the “hours” of the medics who have left/returned remain unfilled.
Then , data for the extent to which A&E and other departments have been patronised since SARS COV2 month by month; ideally that data would be cross referenced to the GP’s of the patients admitted on very occasion, including repeat visits, to determine how many of those GP’s have seen these patients over the same period and whether these same GPs were full time or part time at the point of admission.
Anecdotally , mainly from SWMBO but others too, these are the elephants in the room. Issue not being addressed and GPs are a big part of the crisis.
So is this what their plan now? To blame all the heart problems and cardiac arrests we are staring to see emerge due to the vaccines on the new variant?
Back to mandatory masks… children masked… they are revving it up in the expectation that the cold weather will soon see more old people in hospital dying “with” Covid, probably caught there. BBC News will show bodies loaded into morgues. And then working from home Plan B.
The only surprise is the they didn’t find a scariant for autumn half term. The prolonged mild weather has been a problem for them.
Loo rolls all stacked up – must join the country in binge buying pasta next.
Second jabs for children have to be justified too.
The ongoing COVID-19 nonsense here in the United States exists solely and exclusively because our governments have failed to use the correct treatment. They used so-called “vaccines” when Japan has just proven, in less than ONE MONTH, that Ivermectin can wipe out the disease. IVM was awarded the Nobel prize for medicine in 2015. One of the 3 most important drugs in human history: Aspirin, Penicillin, and Ivermectin. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
Indeed – the floating turd situation (the windiest floaters getting to the top) has got dangerous, with utter lying fakes like Powis and Pritchard being given license outside an padded cell.
Apart from anything else – the alleged numbers of sufferers from severe Covid in ICUs in this non-epidemic simply don’t stack up.
Next question – what are the conflicts of interest in the backgrounds of these people?
You know, I really would like to know what game these people are playing, repeatedly quoting irrelevant data from January.
Oh, and Times muppets.
A very useful analysis by the brilliant “John Dee” entitled “My ICU is Full of Unvaccinated People” https://drive.google.com/file/d/1laTQikCjfabE5IUZ-1bmJj2YGlkctp04/view?fbclid=IwAR3Akl8QiNAGtdHJIiCKlHvO56twR1ZROlV561UB76amhWWclTXqCQDicqE
I have only been away from this hellhole for two weeks and enjoying getting sunny Florida, which is prospering due to the wisdom of this state’s Governor and his surgeon general. I do not intend to ever take the koolaid, nor wear a mask. Neither one makes any sense. Please do your homework. The adverse events of these vaccines are both serious and deadly. Cdc VAERS. Read Steve Kirsch on sub stack. Stop reading or listening to MSM. Stand up for your children.
Yes Mr DeSantis actually reads all the scientific papers and talks to medical and scientific experts. We could do with few thousand clones of him in Goverments in the UK, Europe Canada Australia and NZ and Doesn’t Florida have the biggest %age of elderly in the USA.
How about doing some digging into this recent addition to the parasitic fact- checking industry before bothering to take them seriously? In my experience many of these outfits are dubiously-motivated shoe-string operations funded by vested interest groups and run by amateurs I wouldn’t trust to fact-check a gas meter. Some useful insights into the genre here:
https://www.corbettreport.com/who-will-fact-check-the-fact-checkers/
The attacks on heretics from The Narrative will intensify.
The reason is that nothing is fixing this mess. Government and their equally useless advisers have got pretty everything wrong throughout this debacle. Lock downs do not work, masks are a waste of time and we now see that vaccines are not the panacea either.
They cannot possibly reflect on their errors and give up. Just like in a war they have no option but to carry on. Hence the weird injunction to have boosters while in the same breath saying that the new variant evades vaccines. They must have something to blame for continued failure and to keep goading the population to comply with their nonsense. Blaming heretics is a common approach in war. Think of the typical fear in war of Fifth Columnists. We my friends who read this blog are the Fifth Columnists in this war.
My other thought is that illogicality is a classic feature of Totalitarianism: the idea is precisely to stop us thinking so that we just obey. Zero questioning. Do as you are told. We know better. And all totalitarianism regimes say that the justification is to protect people from some threat. This is no different. The threat has just evolved to be public health rather than a foreign power or a different religion.
Just like in any other such situation in history most people then comply. They do as they are told. Alexander Solzhenitsyns, Martin Luther Kings and Sophie Scholls are super rare.
I fear for the future of our civilization.
I expect the “overwhelming majority” of people who have heart disease are overweight and unfit but, rightly of wrongly, we just accept that as their freedom of choice even though we all pay for it. It’s (supposed to be) a free country.
The levels to which those that are meant to serve us use propaganda and lies to subjugate us is a disgrace. Unfortunately,after so much time and so many lies many of the public continue to believe them.
The public must share some of the blame for being lazy and unquestioning.
More Covid Derangement Syndrome which I suspect is fostered by brown envelopes from Uncle Bill after all he gave over 300 million to media companies and his connections to Jeffrey Epstein seem to have been swept under the carpet
A senior NHS talking head using distorted data? Wow, what a surprise. Max Headroom would be more believable
These days, when I see the claim “Fact Checker” I automatically assume that they’re acting on behalf of the liars pushing the Covid and “vaccine” narrative.
I think I love Will Jones for challenging their lies so effectively. Sadly, since I’m probably old enough to be his mother, it will have to be motherly love 🙂
Well done Toby – strong without being shrill. These public employees who can’t read a graph, or even the date on a graph, who use data that is months old who are supposed to be monitoring the situation and are not need holding to account.
Can we crowd fund a case against the Guardian for printing misinformation? can’ the press ombudsman or whatever be contacted and the Guardian made to correct the story? I note the Times ran a similar story. Surely if Toby pulled something together we could raise the money to take them on. These lies have to stop
FACT CHECK – NHS Chief Stephen Powis & “Doctor Oxford” use 7-months-old Data to claim 75% of Covid-19 Patients in ICU are Unvaccinated
With 65% of hospitalisations and 80% of Covid-19 deaths being among the Vaccinated population over the past three months according to the most recent data (not 5 – 7 months old data), it turns out that over the weekend, the public were lied to once again by the very people they should be able to trust, after they were told by both palliative care doctor Rachel Clarke, and national medical director of NHS England Professor Stephen Powis, that 75% of those in intensive care with Covid-19 are people who have chosen not to be vaccinated.
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/29/nhs-chief-and-doctor-oxford-lie-to-british-public/
There you are TY/WJ – please get the “resign if I am wrong” response from Powis now?
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2021/11/government-of-canada-announces-funding-for-covid-19-safe-voluntary-isolation-sites-in-british-columbia.html
Government of Canada Announces Funding for COVID-19 Safe Voluntary Isolation Sites in British Columbia
Government “scientific” and “medical” officers are to medical-pharmaceutical dictatorships what generals were to military dictatorships.
You kind of wish the generals would say enough of this and transition countries back to human rights centred democracies and away from the tyranny of the central banking-digital-pharmaceutical industrial complex.
There is no doubt that the current political leaderships are committing treason by lying to the people in order to promote dictatorships which violate human rights and freedom.
This means that also the generals are being lied to on a daily basis. When will they say enough is enough? When will they join the Resistance to the daily lies coming from the politicians and the “health service” bosses?
https://t.me/s/robinmg
Another interesting piece where he points out the curiosities surrounding ICU admissions and mortality numbers among the vaxx and unvaxx. In particular it seems that a lot of vaxxed folks are dying without ever being admitted to ICU which raises some interesting questions.
https://bartram.substack.com/p/strange-goings-on-in-uk-intensive?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0MTczMTc5NiwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDQ2OTQ0MzQsIl8iOiIzK1gwUCIsImlhdCI6MTYzODE4NDU5MSwiZXhwIjoxNjM4MTg4MTkxLCJpc3MiOiJwdWItNTY1MDQ2Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.HOkzizXGDrxgpZZ393ZUDdQw-gH89-jixchpGEU0WaI
You’ll be aware that one of our assiduous researchers noticed a short while ago that adverse events are not occurring randomly throughout the batches & lots of vaccines made by a given manufacturer.
Instead, it appears that just 5% of the batches / lots are associated with almost all the deaths.
Given the tight requirements of consistency associated with an authorised product, it’s absolutely impossible that this is a chance event.
No: this is I regret to say unequivocal evidence of malfeasance.
The new (to me) observations in this document are absolutely extraordinary & upsetting.
In brief, they’ve uncovered striking evidence of what’s called DOSE RANGE-FINDING for lethal outcomes.
There are 4-5 different sets of batches / lots of the Pfizer vaccine, deployed in the USA, which show this DRF effect.
Worse, there is a quiet period between each of the lethal batches, the purpose of which is clearly BASELINE ESTABLISHMENT.
Dr Mike Yeadon
https://rense.com/general96/toxic-01.pdf
Do not trust these fork-tongued snakes!
It is very hard to see how the available figures allow for the majority of people in ICU to be unvaccinated (absent some appalling mismanagement, which I suppose we shouldn’t rule out).
The higher up the age bracket you go, the more people are vaccinated.
It is also true that under QALY triaging, more very old people will not get access to ICU because in a world of limited resources the cost isn’t worth it (even if their lives could be saved, which they probably couldn’t).
For that reason, consider the latest Surveillance data, from week 45 for weeks 42-44 (I think, it doesn’t really matter), but only consider younger age groups, where vaccination rates are still high but ICU certainly is appropriate.
In the 30-39 age group, a total of 40 people died, 25 unvaccinated, 10 vaccinated (I’ll ignore the small number of ‘unknowns’ and ‘one-doses’).
In the 40-49 age group, a total of 91 people died, 44 unvaccinated, 41 vaccinated.
In the 50-59 age group, 232 died, 102 unvaccinated, 116 vaccinated.
In the 60-69 age group, 548 died, 151 unvaccinated, 373 vaccinated.
That means that, between the ages of 30 and 69, 322 unvaccinated people died during those weeks, and 540 vaccinated people died.
This means that of the people who died in the relevant weeks 62.64% were vaccinated.
Unless a lot of vaccinated people aged between 30 and 69 are being denied intensive care it is hard to see how it can be the case that the majority of people in ICU are unvaccinated.
Unless they died before they even reached ICU?
Not that I hold a grudge or anything, but this is the same Dr Clarke that made such a fuss over nothing that she got the brilliant Bob Moran sacked…to say I’d love to see her get her comeuppance doesn’t even come close.
“Why, though, do we not have data in the public domain more recent than July so we can see for ourselves rather than having to extrapolate and speculate?”
I fear that when more recent information does become available from traditionally reliable sources it may no longer be reliable.
I watched a video of Canadian Professor Bridle 2 nights ago and he showed stats from the health authority for under 18s for the last 22 months. Out of just over 1.2 million under 18s there was ONE death and that was someone with comorbidities. So why do the young need to get ?vaccinated?
Let’s get this ICU shit in context. 99 percent of patients in I CU are NOT vivid. Go back to what witless said at the start of this. Only 1 Oct of the population are likely to get higher level symptoms. Of that 1pct miniscule number will require oxygen and of that miniscule number an even more miniscule pctge will require intubation. 99 Oct of the patients in ICU are there due to massive strokes, heart attacks, rtas, severe internal trauma and other serious illnesses. In addition to this, I am now excessively amused by all the NHS surgeons, GPS, nurses etc who are threatening to leave their jobs now that vaccination is mandatory for them. Jarvis needs to stand firm with them. They are constantly bombarding the press with this crap about the unvaccinated and how the NHS us overwhelmed by staff being off sick with vivid so as to not to be able to meet alleged demand. Well, it makes perfect sense for all these surgeons, gp’s nurses, midwives to be vaccinated doesn’t it? They shout the loudest about the unvaxxed yet they remain so themselves. Javid needs to stand firm. They gave foisted this poison by coercion of older people and the public now, when it’s their turn, lo and behold they want to be exempted from it. I hope they do go to Court and challenge the decision because they’ll have to reveal the serious risks of this poison!