A pre-print study out this week from the U.S. Government’s Covid Response Team at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has found vaccinated people to be “no less infectious” than unvaccinated people.
The study tested inmates in a federal prison with high vaccination rates daily during a SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant outbreak.
The study was very thorough. Inmates who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 were, where willing, PCR-tested for 10 consecutive days and reported symptoms via a questionnaire. The researchers performed whole genome sequencing and viral culture analysis on a high proportion of the 978 specimens collected, allowing them to assess the duration of PCR positivity and viral culture positivity.
There were 95 participants in total, of whom 78 (82%) were double vaccinated and 17 (18%) were not double vaccinated (two having received one dose and 15 having received none). No significant differences were found between double vaccinated and not double vaccinated either in duration of PCR positivity (13 days each) or in duration of culture positivity (five days each).
The authors conclude that “clinicians and public health practitioners should consider vaccinated persons who become infected with SARS-CoV-2 to be no less infectious than unvaccinated persons”.
This is in line with the findings of Public Health England and others.
While this sounds like more good news for countering vaccine passports, vaccine mandates and all other vaccine-based coercion and discrimination, it may be less good news for ending general restrictions and interventions. The authors state: “These findings are critically important, especially in congregate settings where viral transmission can lead to large outbreaks.” Which suggests they think the lack of efficacy against transmission is a reason to intervene more generally to prevent “large outbreaks” in “congregate settings”. It could be a long winter.
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These prisoners could be subjected to a Draconian lockdown if they’re not careful….
….Oh
Like the rest of us. Absolute equality between jailers and jailed, as in La Peste.
You don’t seriously believe politicians publically ranting about the tyranny of the unvaccinated, this supposed to refer to the Corona politics of said politicians themselves, are going to be impressed with something like this? These people obviously seriously believe that absolutely everything can be made-up to order as the general population will swallow it and for as long as there’s money to be made with vaccination, they’ll keep ranting.
[*] reportedly, some German politician whose face I don’t recognize did this
Maybe the answer would have been to shield the vulnerable, let everyone else catch the virus, build up herd immunity and not bother with a vaccine.
The whole thing might have been over by now.
If only some learned scientists had suggested this a year ago.
Never mind Barrington, it was the official plan of just about everyone until the Chinese convinced the world to shit themselves.
Yes, the overall view of the pre-2020 respiratory pandemic planning (mostly focused on pandemic influenza) seemed to be not only that broad lockdowns were socially costly and politically untenable, but also that they didn’t work very well at stopping the spread of disease.
I almost hope that they bribed us with fat stacks of Yuan to destroy ourselves.
The more depressing alternative is that it was done by Useful Idiots who believe that the Chinese Communist Party is actually ideologically communist, rather than being a xenophobic ethonostate that just happens to leverage communism as a handy template for suppressing their vassal ethnicities.
Either way, their pets are only going to be given a few treats, they’ll never be allowed up on the Mandarin couch.
There you go talking sense again!
You really must stop it, they will come for you if you don’t.
How is it that they are justifying these so called vaccines again? I’m lost now
They are needed for the following reasons:
Or at least I think it’s something like that. What don’t you understand?
Yes, and that means everyone in the world – in Gibraltar everyone has had it, 40% have even had boosters, and they have one of the biggest surges in the world.
Once everyone is on weekly vaccines, they can get round to vaccinating the cats, dogs, weasels and (to be on the safe side) every dead human as well.
…..don’t forget the bats !
They help to protect you and those you love from the chance of reducing the risk of hospitals and protection in those you really care about, not just for yourself, but others around and above you and grandma.
Can’t believe this vital biosecurity message has been downvoted. What about grandma?
I can, shoulda removed the rainbow
Oh dear – humour doesn’t seem to translate well, does it!
And I missed it- whoops- because I judged it by the downvotes already there. Now I don’t know how to edit!
I liked it.
Are you being funny?
Grandma isn’t buying it. Don’t patronise people like me who happen to be grandparents please.
Many grandparents are not wet hypochondriacal wimps who are frantically terrified of death (which comes to all eventually, like it or not) and would rather risk dying themselves than have their grandchildren injected with a substance that might maim them for life or kill them.
How else does Pfizer share price go up?
This is a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Or maybe heads they win, tails we lose.
If vaccines reduce transmission, as most politicians seem to believe, this increases the “reasons” for introducing vaccine passports/mandates. If they don’t reduce transmission, this increases the “reasons” for introducing more general restrictions.
The bastards will find an excuse to do what they want regardless of what real world data, as apposed to what computer models or ideology shows, a lot like climate change.
Hey, at least this stuff makes we laugh out loud. I’m not holding my breath for it to be picked up by the MSM though.
So, two parallel realities exist. In one, the unvaccinated are selfish disease spreaders who must be punished and vilified. In the other the vaccines don’t work at all. Industrial scale gas lighting and the perfect way to drive those of us clinging on to the frayed edges of sanity to absolute despair. Bring it on Globalists; I’m prepared to hang on to reason for as long as you care to continue bullshitting the world. You’ll be rounded up before we are
My sister is a nurse – been a nurse for 22 years – she’s had covid – caught it in the hospital last year where she works – mild flu like symtoms for about a week – and this year she has also been double jabbed but says she will not be having the booster jab – she worked all through the pandemic last year without the jab (thats how she got covid) and so if the NHS wants to sack her for refusing the jab then so be it – she’s not worried about losing her job at all – she’s confident she will find something else probably less stressful too and so she has decided enough is enough – no more covid jabs – the first jab she got headaches and second jab made her feel terrible and had to take time off work to recover – apparently she’s not alone in refusing the booster – quite a few have made the same decision and are prepared to walk out and look for other jobs elsewhere rather then be coerced into having a third jab with possibly a fourth on the horizon early next year.
So basically the vaccines don’t work.
What disgusting slanderous lie, DO NOT call it a vaccine, thank you.
Unfortunately it CAN now be called a vaccine as the definition in Websters has been changed!
They do. Much like chaff on an F-15 fighter jet. SMOKESCREEN.
Oh I’m sure they work. I just don’t know what it is they’re intended to be doing.
They work at what they were designed to do – reduce symptoms and death. There is potentially a small reduction in the likelihood of catching the disease, but once you have the disease you are no less infectious than anybody else.
I don’t think this is helpful at all in countering medical apartheid or the official covid narrative, when has facts & logic ever made any difference to politicians running this shit show?
The final solution will be a cull! We just have to cull the politicians (lawfully, of course) before they do it to us.
I wonder if a “vaccinated” person can catch “it” from another “vaccinated” person?
If so, do we need to lockdown all the “vaccinated” until the “effectiveness” of the “vaccine” wears off perhaps?
Just a thought…
There are no unvaccinated people in Gibraltar. COVID is surging. QED.
And they ARE all locked down, so you are right!
Good point!
However the study implies you are less likely to get it if you are vaccinated:
Now you’d need to balance the groups statistically since unvaccinated is so much smaller than the vaccinated group.
Without the full data, and adjusting for confounders, you can’t tell if that is just a change difference, or a real one attributable to the process of vaccination.
But that difference both has to be explained in itself, and why 70% are still catching the virus.
The fact that the number of detected infections in two different groups of people was different in some observational one-off study implies absolutely nothing about the reason for this. Especially not, when it’s being published by someone with vested interests like the CDC.
I’d say this study demonstrates perfectly the uselessness of lockdowns! lol
This study was shared by Swedenborg some days ago. Credit for being ahead of the pack as per usual.
Hospitals in USA and in first world countries are refusing life-saving Ivermectin treatment even with court orders. Big Pharma doing everything they can to jab us no matter what, while alternative COVID cures EXIST! There happens to be heavy censorship who are looking for these treatments. The Research Is Clear: Ivermectin Is a Safe, Effective Treatment for COVID. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
With respect to the travel restrictions from South Africa, Zimbabwe etc. a friend of mine living in SA was told 3 weeks ago that he should make no plans to travel over Christmas as ‘they are going to find a new variant which will mean another lockdown’. These discoveries are so contrived.