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The Religious Faith of European leaders in Vaccines Will End in the Imprisonment of the Unvaccinated

by Toby Young
22 November 2021 6:28 PM

I’ve written a comment piece for Mail+ about the failure of vaccine passports and other restrictions on the unvaccinated to avert a Winter Covid crisis in Europe. The logic of the policy seems to be based on a wildly inflated estimate of the effectiveness of the vaccines – but instead of abandoning it when it clearly isn’t working, European governments just keep doubling down. Here is an extract:

In spite of the overwhelming evidence that vaccine passports are ineffective, a majority of the public still want the Government to bring them in. In a poll published yesterday, 58% of English adults said they’d support banning people from bars, restaurants and other public venues if they can’t produce evidence they’ve been double-jabbed or recently tested negative.

The reason for this may be because most people still think of the Covid vaccines as being more effective than they really are. When they were first rolled out, we were assured they offered almost complete protection against the virus.

“You’re not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations,” said Joe Biden.

“Vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don’t get sick,” said Dr Rochelle Walensky, a Director of the Centres for Disease Control.

“When people are vaccinated, they can feel safe that they are not going to get infected,” said Dr Anthony Fauci.

We now know that isn’t true. Vaccinated people can still catch COVID-19 and pass it on. The evidence suggests they are less likely to become severely ill or die for the disease, but even those benefits wear off over time, which is why the Government is urging people to get the booster.

If vaccinated people can transmit the virus, what is the point of banning the unvaccinated from bars, restaurants and other public places? You might as well ban people with ginger hair for all the good it will do.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: AustriaGermanyThe NetherlandsVaccine PassportsWales

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DickieA
DickieA
4 months ago

Where is Rachel from accounts?

It’s 2nd Thursday in the month and on her to-do list today is filing last month’s invoices and printing the wage slips.

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Art Simtotic
Art Simtotic
4 months ago

The Princess of Theeves is hiding in the Number 11 broom cupboard with a Do Not Disturb notice on the door.

Rayner is on a building site back in Adswood knocking up another council house to make some more ackers out of on the side.

Lammy is in the Caribbean hunting for any sugar plantations overlooked by Wilberforce and the Royal Navy two hundred years ago.

Phillipson is checking the VAT returns and getting all the whiteboards changed back to blackboards.

And last but not least, Sir Kia is in Islamabad canvassing for the voters of the future.

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JXB
JXB
4 months ago
Reply to  Art Simtotic

Drôle.

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MajorMajor
MajorMajor
4 months ago

Ultimately in a capitalist economy, whether you like it or not, the markets will pass judgment on your competence. The signs are not good for Rachel from Accounts.
To be fair on her, and with compassion towards a fellow human being, it can’t be easy for her. She must know she is incompetent. She knows she sexed up her CV. She knows she is being hated by a lot of people. This must put a lot of psychological stress on her.

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JOpenmind
JOpenmind
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Downticked you, sorry, I have no compassion for her. I feel sorry for the people she is exposing to misery because of her incompetence!

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MajorMajor
MajorMajor
4 months ago
Reply to  JOpenmind

That’s OK, you can disagree.
But despite everything, she is still a human being. Incompetent, hopeless, out of her depth. She should admit it and resign. But even if I had absolute power over her, I would only want her to resign. Nothing more than that. So that’s my compassion.

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DickieA
DickieA
4 months ago
Reply to  JOpenmind

JOpenmind – I agree with you. I have plenty of sympathy for people in poorly paid jobs who are stressed as they struggle to pay day to day bills because of increased taxes and increased costs due to inflation.

I feel sympathy for stressed people in the lower layers of organisations with impossible workloads working for tyrannical managers.

I feel sympathy for stressed people juggling family responsibilities with work.

I have zero sympathy for Rachel Reeves and similar people who use ruthless determination to climb the greasy pole – and then find it stressful due to their own uselessness and incompetence. Entirely self inflicted.

My view is 100% science driven. For those who are OK with Anglo Saxon language – see dial here: https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-bs-whatever-stop-gif-22436087

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Cotfordtags
Cotfordtags
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Also no compassion. If her mendacity is now causing her stress as she realises that she is not up to the job, the solution is simple – resign.

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1974seasider
1974seasider
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Karma. When she gets a bit more experience in life she’ll learn about balance and how the universe cannot abide a credit without an equal and opposite credit. Tell a lie and bad things have a habit of coming back to bite you.

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JXB
JXB
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Human? I dispute that.

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Gezza England
Gezza England
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

I have no compassion for failed Lefties ever. I hope their life is totally miserable.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

At least she knows what a woman is!

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Marque1
Marque1
3 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Good! If one is too arrogant and/or deluded to pay heed to the judgment of others then they deserve all the opprobrium heading their way.

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stewart
stewart
4 months ago

Here is a list of things I find ridiculous.

— Rachel Reeves
— People who think that the UK economy depends on what Rachel Reeves does.
— People who think that the price of UK debt depends largely on what Rachel Reeves does or says.

I couldn’t rank them though. Quite how ridiculous they esch seem depends a bit on my mood.

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Cotfordtags
Cotfordtags
4 months ago
Reply to  stewart

While I agree that macro economics across the world impact on national economies in a way that Governments admit when things are going badly and deny when times are good, I disagree with you on two of your points. If Rachel from accounts decides to tax jobs, employment will be affected, everything else being equal and likewise, if she borrows more, again everything else being equal, the cost of that debt will increase. In the days when you could walk in to see your bank manager, if he perceived you to be a low risk, you paid a lower rate of interest than if he thought you to be a marginal or high risk and so it is on capital markets. With her budget, she has shown herself to be a high risk, so in a time of static or increasing rates, the price of our Government borrowing is having an even higher margin applied

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AndyLarge
AndyLarge
4 months ago
Reply to  Cotfordtags

Your points are logical. Except that if she tanks the general economy (likely) and company profits take a nose dive (likely), there will also be a huge demand for safety and liquidity and moderate inflation protection in government bonds. Quantifying the magnitude of that demand is tough, to say the least.

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stewart
stewart
4 months ago
Reply to  Cotfordtags

Yes, I understand the theory as well.

Now apply the theory and make some specific predictions of the level of any of these standard economic indicators based on different actions by Rachel Reeves (or anyone in the British government for that matter).

The problem is you can’t. Nor can anyone. Too many other variables the net effect of which overwhelms anything that Rachel Reeves may or may not do.

I have yet to encounter anyone anywhere that can make reliable economic predictions. All so called economic experts do is construct narratives about what happened, drawing attention to the bits they (randomly) got right and giving plausible explanations for the bits they (randomly) got wrong.

Put in a different way, I could get a monkey to throw darts at a board with plausible economic indicator predictions and then afterwards construct a coherent analysis of the difference with the actual data (which is also BS btw), explaining what was accurate with appropriate references to economic and giving plausible sounding reasons for deviations.

In fact, it would make for a great comedy skit.

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AndyLarge
AndyLarge
4 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Economics. The dismal science! Short term micro-economic predictions have some value, but beyond that it gets so complex… But governments think the reverse, claiming they know the picture for the next ten years and can model the effects of tax increases with certainty. Shocking that so many folk fall for it.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
4 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Well I agree it’s not a cause and effect science, but broad brush she believes in and is trying to implement a more centrally planned economy, higher taxes, higher government spending. We know from history that the more you go in this direction, the poorer you get. Scandinavia has highish tax rates but they have (or had) better human capital on average than we do, and a lower welfare budget supporting unproductive people, and we now have on top of all this a mad “energy policy” and I think you could draw some nice graphs correlating energy prices with prosperity and growth or the lack of it.

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stewart
stewart
4 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I’m sure one could draw all sorts of graphs.

But we’ve been on a NetZero war path for over a decade and promoted by every government’s during that time. And while that has remained constant, the 10 year rate has fluctuated. So…

Truss wanted to cut taxes and gilt yields went up. Reeves wants to raise taxes and gilt yields go up. Go figure.

The idea that these people have buttons that actually create predictable outcomes is just an illusion.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
4 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Buttons no, but they can certainly over time get in the way of human endeavour

I wouldn’t look at bond yields as a measure of anything useful

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stewart
stewart
4 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

But these long term policies aren’t decided by politicians. Nothing major changes from election to election. It’s all pretty much pre-detwrmined.

Bond yields are very real and tangible. They go up and if you hold the debt, your wealth goes down and vice versa. That’s very real.

And for a country that is broke and needs to borrow money, yields better.

But Reeves doesn’t really affect any of that (which is what the article is about)

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
4 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Politicians have the power to change course, usually not the will though.

It’s true that it’s not good if borrowing costs go up, I am just sceptical about the short term wisdom of the bond markets.

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mrbu
mrbu
3 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Reeves pushed the button that increased job taxation for employers. It was obvious that it would discourage recruitment and pay rises, and that’s exactly what has happened.

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AndyLarge
AndyLarge
4 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Yep. Some good points. UK 10 year gilt tracks US 10 year pretty neatly. And what drives the price of the US 10 year is v v complex. The US dollar is much more than just a currency these days. It is, at least in part, a payment network nicknamed “Eurodollar”. Anyone who can tell you with confidence where the US 10 year note will be in 3 months is a liar. … But – my guess is down, along with the UK 10 year. Check out the general direction of 10 year rates across the West…

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
4 months ago

‘Preparing for a jaunt to China …’
No jaunt. Just like Starmer and Lammy, as a committed communist she’s there to get her orders.
Notice how everything this government does benefits the CCP.

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JXB
JXB
4 months ago

Whither Rachel – perhaps out searching for the ubiquitous yet invisible Far Right?

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Gezza England
Gezza England
4 months ago

The trouble with the Student Union is who is there that is remotely competent? It is really scary that the vacant Anneliese Dodds was her predecessor.

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davidcraig68
davidcraig68
3 months ago

Busy polishing up her CV for the next job she is not competent to hold?

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Lodewijk
Lodewijk
3 months ago

I really wonder what she will achieve for the UK with her China ‘mission’? They will smile politely and send her back!

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adamcollyer
adamcollyer
3 months ago

Rachel from Accounts is indeed pretty useless.

But take another look at that gilt yields graph. The big increase in gilt yields happened in 2023, under the Fake Conservatives. Rachel has just carried on with their policies.

The Telegraph’s attempt to paint this picture of Labour rapidly wrecking the economy is pathetic. Their own Conservatives were and are every bit as bad.

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Purpleone
Purpleone
3 months ago
Reply to  adamcollyer

The Uniparty as we’ve said for a while…

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