The Health Secretary has celebrated the latest milestone in the booster Covid vaccine roll-out which has now seen two million people in England receive their third dose.
The Independent has more.
The top-up jabs are being given to people [aged 50 and over, as well as those] with severely weakened immune systems who might not have mounted a strong response to their initial inoculations [and] to health and social care workers.
Ruth May, Chief Nursing Officer for England, said she has had hers and encouraged others who were eligible to do the same.
“It’s fantastic to see that just three weeks into the booster campaign, more than 2 million people have been quick to get their top-up in protection ahead of what will be a busy winter period for the NHS,” she said. …
Some 49 million first doses have now been administered in the U.K. – about 73% of the population – along with about 45 million second doses (67%).
The figures mean that England’s rates have slipped from being the highest in Europe to 12th.
Experts say the fall is due to a decision to vaccinate children over the age of 12 taking longer than in many other countries and a refusal to create a vaccination passport system such as that being used in France and Scotland.
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Two million people who are now in serious danger – tricked into taking a third dose of the most deadly medicine ever devised in less than a year. This won’t end well. Two close family members (formerly Covid Faithful) have refused their ‘booster’ over safety fears – I hope this is playing out across the country.
I think you might be exaggerating a little, strychnine and arsenic were both devised in less than a year and were both used medicinally. In fact, killing 1 in 50000 people is not very deadly at all.
We don’t know the death rate from the vaccines — there has been remarkably little interest from the authorities in exploring this risk.
There are signs that ‘something is amiss’ in hospitalisation data, but until the authorities start looking all we’ll have is guesses based on how population wide data has changed. For example, we currently have a ‘substantial’ (4 standard deviations) increase in excess deaths in England, very little of which can be explained by covid deaths.
There’s also ‘impact to health’ besides death. For example, hospitalisations for stroke are currently up about 25% compared with the long term average — this might be for all sorts of things, but I note that we didn’t see this before spring ’21, so it isn’t simply ‘covid’.
>We don’t know the death rate from the vaccines
This was minutely examinded in over 40,000 trial subjects (and data is still being gathered and analysed, so every day, you view is more out of date and ridiculous) and the risk was found to be tiny compared to the risk of covid19 blood clots and other risks. And that applies to all the HMRA approved vaccines. You are entertaining yourself by jumping on the despicable anti-vax bandwagon, with no idea what you are talking about or about the damage you are causing. It is safe to say ‘you are prolonging the emergency and seriously delaying the day we can get back to normal. All the political parties agree, your views are in the lunatic fringe, which perfectly describes yor points of view.; those of a lunatic.
And we love you too
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thanks for your kind words.
“…seriously delaying the day we can get back to normal!”……what was in you jabs, utter stupidity?…..that’s never going to happen you muppet, certainly not because people have allowed themselves to be jabbed…jabbed….jabbed…with no end in sight. You have accepted and welcomed the treadmill you are on, enjoy!!
> jabbed…jabbed….jabbed…
you really bought the whole 9 yards of fear… fear … fear eh?
You already used that line today, you’re becoming repetative and increasingly boring, but I expect that’s not the first time you’ve been told that.
She’s just not very bright – perhaps we should cut her some slack and just stop reading what she has to blather.
I find it quite useful that people such as you choose to comment on our website now and again.
I am frequently tempted to engage with people I know, as I get struck with a passing belief that rational and informed discussion is possible with mostly everyone.
But your comments are a perfect anti-dote to this naivete. I need only remind myself that ewloe was able to string a sentence together, and no doubt manages to navigate their day to day environment, possibly even a low level office job, yet hold such ill informed and evil views.
This is someone having a wind up, take the last sentence, ignore,
I can’t tell whether your post is satire. Don’t know whether to get worked up by it or not! Don’t think I will.
That’s an odd response.
The research is very poor. 50 million people have been vaccinated in the UK — where is the pharmacovigilance? This is normal for any post phase III drug, but just hasn’t been done.
Even now, when we know that there are risks, they’re not doing robust pharmacovigilance for the booster or <18 roll-out. I just cannot understand why they wouldn’t do this.
I have seen some research, but all too often the trials are limited in some way — such as the recent Hippersley-Cox paper, where they considered the risk of complication following vaccination to have diminished to zero after 28 days, despite the actual data in the study clearly demonstrating that the risks were being maintained at the 28 day point, and thus making the rest of their analysis useless.
I like the ‘lunatic fringe’ part — you know you’ve hit a nerve when the ad-hominem attacks start.
Oh, and that line about ‘all the political parties agree‘ — very amusing!
just more fear… fear … fear… it is all you have.
ewloe, do you believe vaccines can injure people?
Out of interest can you tell me why you come onto a ‘sceptic site’ is it..
A. You’re a paid troll
B. You’re hoping you can ‘re-educate’ us all with your insightful and well researched arguments
C. You have so little in your life this is the only way you can get any company?
“This was minutely examinded in over 40,000 trial subjects”
Peter Joshi has demonstrated that the trials were rigged, with the ARR being 0.4% rather than 1%, and the science was ended when the control group was jabbed.
Ah yes the universal measurement of efficacy and safety achieved from political party agreement. There we were thinking vaccines had to have long term studies to meet the definition of ‘safe’.
Just because they work shouldn’t be the approach people take towards a vaccine. It’s like if somebody is cold setting them on fire….. well they’re warm now? It’s worked so what’s the issue? I remember when asbestos was the answer to all our problems, every expert and the government peddled it, look where that got us.
Governments have an obsession with transmission rates, have Have a look at Singapore where they have seen a 3000+ increase in cases after 80-84% vaccination in the population.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/27/singapore-is-seeing-record-covid-cases-that-may-not-be-a-bad-thing.html
“For these people, infection will not have any short-term or long-term consequence to their health, but may additionally trigger a natural immune response which reduces the chance of subsequent infection,” he said in an email.
May trigger a natural immune response which reduces the chance of subsequent infection……. Just let that sink in for a minute that natural immunity is the key to reduction of transmission, not a ‘vaccine’. Without transmission you don’t have deaths either….
That’s great data! I shall be referencing Singapore frequently. Thank goodness for the World Wide Interweb that rabbit hole for conspirators.
How are the unvaxxed prolonging the emergency exactly?
If the NHS was under threat of collapse when nobody was vaccinated, how is it still under threat of collapse when 80%+ are vaccinated?
Countries like Israel and Australia are reporting majority of deaths/hospitalisations are among the vaxxed so the more that take the jab the more hospitals are going to be dealing with their adverse effects.
Move along troll.
Only a lunatic would believe government funded propaganda.
“following the science”
“build back better”
“save the NHS”
“safe and effective”
“the new normal”
“hands, face, space”
All catchphrases of a totalitarian regime, claiming to protect you and have your best interests at heart.
History is full of them, and they all fail in the end.
Simple question, when did governments start telling the truth and the press stop printing sensationalist garbage?
What concerns me (among other things) is that whilst no 15-17 year olds have died of “Covid”, there apparently have been cases of 15-17 year olds dieing after taking these experimental “vaccines”. And yet despite this – and despite the recommendation of the JCVI with regards to 15 year olds, they are being encouraged to take them regardless, with the crudest of propaganda. And just out of interest, where exactly do “all the political parties” get their funding from? Perhaps you should watch some episodes of “Yes, Prime Minister”. It’s said to be based on reality, you know.
None of the unvaccinated I know have tested positive (let alone been actually ill) since vaccines rolled out. How exactly are they prolonging anything? Personally I think a lot of people who are unvaccinated have had the virus and are happy that their immune system did its job. Messing that up with jabs could make things worse.
Meanwhile another pour soul in my Grans old care home died days after having her 3rd covid ‘vaccination’ in under a year alongside her flu jab. She was apparently poorly before the jabs – so why the hell did they give a sick elderly woman 2 jabs knowing they can both have adverse effects? She may well have died anyway but the jabs certainly didn’t do her any good and cost the NHS money to administer.
If you review the findings of the team working with Steve Kirsch on the VAERS database you’ll either be drawn to agree with them that it’s close to 1:2000 people or you’ll be able to formally tell them why they’re wrong & claim your $1M reward which is still on offer.
Forgive me – but you don’t sound like the brightest button in the box. Have you ever heard of the expression about stopping digging when you’re in a hole?
A.D.E
That is true. Correction: The deadliest medicines since strychnine and arsenic.
Arsenic is a poisonous element on the periodic table. No development has ever been required. Strychnine is used for rat poison. Not sure what point you’re trying to make?
Derailment off topic. That’s the point.
It’s closer to killing 1:2000, based in US VAERS data & an underreporting factor of 41, as calculated several different ways by a team working with Steve Kirsch.
That the deaths are caused by the vaccines & not coincidental is supported by the clear dose relationship, the tight time relationship & the underlying mechanistic pathology (thromboembolic).
“the most deadly medicine ever devised in less than a year.”
Exaggeration doesn’t help.
I’m not sure I am exaggerating. Steve Kirsch, who makes a very convincing case, says around 40,000 Americans have been killed by them. Personally, in my own small sphere, I’ve seen two suspicious deaths of otherwise healthy people in their 40s. And if there’s even a grain of truth in ADE this adds up to a catastrophe.
What seems to make this injection unusual is that some doctors are publicly speaking out against the products and advising healthy people not to take them. Vladimir Zelenko is one; this talk is quite hard-hitting although I’m not an Orthodox Jew, so didn’t understand some of the references, however I did understand all mentions of Dr Mengele …
https://rumble.com/vjsq2p-r-and-b-medical-war-crimes-seminar-2-with-dr.-vladimir-zelenko.html
Other medics. include Malcolm Kendrick, Peter McCullough, Roger Hodkinson, Lee Merritt, Byram Bridle, Sucharit Bhakdi, Robert Malone, Pierre Kory (I think) and lots more. Also many who are bio-scientists – often doctors due to having a PhD but not medical doctors – have spoken out and also have pretty detailed knowledge.
This one was indeed a belter. I am Jewish and it was mightily entertaining to see the points he was making hit home with the slightly befuddled Rabbinate!
That was time well spent! Thank you so much for sharing.
I’m also on record as being strongly against them. I was initially cautious but it turns out there is no readily identified cohort for whom vaccinating is better than not vaccinating.
Certainly the most lethal interventions inappropriately called vaccines.
I heard yesterday an aquaintance died ‘of covid’ on sunday, he had his booster shot last week, his wife is hospitalised with pneumonia.
Awful sorry to hear that. I fear we are going to be hearing many such stories as people continue to take these terrible drugs.
Thanks
I fear you’re right.
My thoughts exactly. Good for your rellies refusing booster jab
Yep my Partner (pressurised by her daughters into having the original jabs) is NOT having the booster. I can’t thank God enough!
I’d never realised how quickly and enthusiastically sheep can run towards the abattoir
So there’s a tacit admission that covid passports are a means of bullying people into getting jabbed, not a way of protecting people who visit the relevant venues.
The pretence that it’s anything other than a bullying measure has become very half-hearted now. They clearly realise that many people can see through it – but presumably also think that enough will comply anyway that it doesn’t matter that the real motivation is fairly obvious.
I would guess that not openly admitting what the real reason is probably has something to do with the relevant legislation prohibiting mandation / coercion for medical treatments and they are trying to maintain a measure of plausible deniability – although any objective court (if such a thing exists any more) would conclude that what they have done already amounts to severe coercion.
This could be done and dusted much more efficiently by raising the taxrate for those who have ignored advice to get vaccinated. Hit them where it hurts them the most in their pockets.
Which tax specifically and on which grounds?
Seriously good trolling and wind up. Many will fall for it.
That is such a great idea. Actually I would agree to pay higher tax if it meant I didn’t have to be poisoned.
Ditto
Persecute the non believers you mean? Like a religion or a cult?
How very Liberal minded of you!
Whom do you propose to charge for the cost of treatment for those who suffer adverse reactions, and what of the millions of days of lost productivity for the same?
Unless one of the performers get Covid. Then the show is put on hold.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/19635310.genesis-cancel-glasgow-london-shows-last-domino-tour-band-members-test-positive-covid-19/
My elderly parents were chomping at the bit to get the booster, clearly with one eye on their next cruise. I have tried to tell them, sent them yellow card data etc but they think I have gone slightly mad. I actually believe they pity ME!
It’s very depressing
> elderly parents were chomping at the bit to get the booster,
> clearly with one eye on their next cruise
perhaps you would get rid of them and save the cost of the cruise, added to you inheritance?
Ooof! You’re on a rampage!
My mother insists my stepfather has had his “last” jab. I can’t even be bothered to argue anymore. Meanwhile, as my sister observed, healthy, if elderly people are dropping dead left right and centre from strokes and heart attacks…
Someone my brother knows dropped dead last weekend, mid fifties…
> can’t argue anymore
good we are slowly making progress.
Who’s ‘we’?
77th,
I think they need to try harder if so!
The doctor who diagnosed my daughter’s autoimmune condition has put, on record, that her autoimmune condition was precipitated by her MMR. She probably won’t get compensation because a weekly injection of chemotherapy isn’t judged as 60% disability. If you want to get a six year old kid to brush their teeth, give them methotrexate as the taste the injection leaves is so foul they will keep brushing their teeth all day. I would love five minutes in your company, I would fucking love it.
can someone interpret this for me
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf
page 15
“Second dose ≥14 days before specimen date” has very high death rates
The ARR on this measure and this reporting is very low.
Steve
I agree. My comment on this yesterday was:
“The rates of vaccine effectiveness are in some senses secondary to the actual numbers of Covid cases, hospitalisations and deaths post-vaccination, as they are too easily affected (or barely affected at all) by modest changes to the numerators/denominators.
So, just on the absolute numbers (Covid surveillance report week 40):
– over quarter of a million Covid cases amongst the double-jabbed
– nearly 4,000 Covid hospitalisations of double-jabbed people
– 2,750 Covid deaths of double-jabbed people
Even assuming the second two of these are subsets of the first, it’s hardly a ringing endorsement of the jab. On the other hand, as dying within 28 days of a positive Covid test is not the same as dying of Covid, maybe all the numbers are completely unreliable and any statistician worth their professional salt should disown them, even if they do (sort of) support the terror and coercion narrative.
What I expect will happen is that the BBC will run a scare story saying that the jab has failed to prevent 250,000 fully injected people from catching Covid…”
For a US take on the same issue, the ARR question raised by Rick, see https://digitalwarriors.uk/covid-vac-stats-shocking
table 1 on page 5 is funny – after all the text says the vaccines are marvellous, the table says “Little evidence is available at present and results are inconclusive”
And Moderna really have named their product ‘Spikevax’.
Wow! Scary stuff. Nothing can excuse the murderous b@2tards.
How many would you expect to die in this time period?
I’d say it doesn’t look too suspicious — they’ve vaccinated the vast majority in the 40+ age groups and there is a bit of covid going around at the moment.
The interesting data for now is on page 13, where they show that the vaccinated 30+ are more likely to become infected compared with the unvaccinated. It is possible that this is one of the early signs of ADE — we’ll find out more in late Nov/Dec.
this is interesting because age 30+ are more likely to have covid if they are vaccinated. I also think they wear masks, bed-wet and generally are risk averse. The unvaccinated in my experience think its all a load of shit and are living normally. So it could be even worse
I actually read it too quickly and posted. basically 85% of people dying with/of covid in the last 3 weeks are double vaccinated and 15% unnvaccinated. This is ‘success’ because >90% of those age groups have been vacced
That nasty phrase “wall of defence” seems to be trotted out too often for it to be an off-the-cuff remark – so clearly it’s likely to be nudge-unit-approved.
It’s also bollocks as even vaccine proponents don’t claim that the vaccine reduces spread of the virus, so clearly it’s not a ‘wall’, is it?
Why does it still remain beyond the wit of the pharmaceutical firms to devise a cheap, quick, easy to administer seroprevalence test? Wouldn’t it be far better to ascertain whether an individual has either immunity through antibodies or T-cells before administering a vaccine that could prove to be needless and harmful?
This is routinely done with the pre-BCG Mantoux test.
It’s more profitable to try to push the “vaccines” (plus endless ‘boosters’, of course) to everyone…
Antibodies are easy.
T-cells are more difficult.
The trouble is, protective immunity against covid is more related to the cellular immune system than ‘antibodies’.
The public mania for ‘antibodies’ reminds me of the cries of ‘plants crave electrolytes’ in the movie idiocracy — the oversimplification is leading to serious public health mistakes being made.
“… our wall of defence so we can keep the virus at bay… “
Interesting how any pretense of medical/scientific/data literacy has now vanished in this drive to promote ‘vaccines’.
And by “reinforce wall of defence” he means “reinforce vaccine dependence”.
All you need to know about vaccine failure – not in Israel, in the US – in one incredible chart
Alex Berenson – Oct 8 – (Please read this one to the end.)
So researchers decided to look at whether heavy use of cocaine, cannabis, and other drugs increases the risk for breakthrough Covid infections. (They found having a cannabis use disorder does; other drugs don’t, once you control for comorbidities. Tell Your Children.)
Anyway, that’s not the news.
This study was large and well-conducted. It used a database that covers 85 million Americans in 63 health-care organizations. It was published Oct. 5 in World Psychiatry, a peer-reviewed journal. People were included if they’d had no Covid infection before vaccination and had been “fully vaccinated” – that is, 14 days after the second dose.
The researchers wound up examining medical records of about 580,000 Americans, 30,000 with a substance use disorder, 550,000 without. They found that just over 7 percent of people with a use disorder wound up with a breakthrough infection between January and August, compared to 3.6 percent of those without.
Okay. Set aside the small group of users and focus only on the 550,000 people in the non-using group. They had a 3.6 percent chance of infection for fully vaccinated people over eight months, January to August.
But eight months is really about four months. Why? These are BREAKTHROUGH infections, and the average vaccinated American was not “fully” vaccinated until mid-April. (Remember, too, that “breakthrough” infections do not include the two weeks after the first dose, when vaccine efficacy is somewhere between zero and negative.)
So 1 in 28 “fully vaccinated” people was infected over the four months when the vaccines were at peak effectiveness. Because vaccines work!
But story gets worse. Much worse.
The researchers stratified the risk of infection by month, January through August.
Here’s that chart (See attached)- for the 550,000 people WITHOUT a substance use disorder, in other words the vast majority of the sample.
The rate of breakthrough infections rose FIVE-FOLD between July and August (and roughly 20-fold from March to August).
By the way, the scale here represents the rate of breakthrough infections PER DAY. In other words, in August, those 550,000 fully vaccinated people had a roughly 1 in 200 chance of being infected each day. (Which translates into about a 7 percent chance for the month, which doesn’t match the 3.6 percent total infection rate for this group for the entire time period. It is possible the data does not cover the entire month. Nonetheless the trend could not be clearer.)
As the researchers explained:
A similar trend was observed in the non-SUD population: the rate of breakthrough infection steadily increased from 0 cases/person-day in January 2021 to 0.0009 cases/person-day in June 2021, and then reached 0.0049 cases/person-day in August 2021 (5.4 times faster than in June 2021)
It is simply impossible to argue about vaccine failure any more.
Whether it’s because of the Delta variant, waning antibodies, or some combination, the vaccines simply don’t provide infection (and thus transmission) protection. The only studies that show anything like 80 or 90 percent protection after a few months are those the companies have funded. Maybe they provide some protection against serious cases – hospitalizations and deaths – for longer, but we don’t know how long, and that efficacy declines too.
In any case, as has been pointed out over and over – but I will say yet again – if the vaccines do not stop infection and transmission, then even if they provide some health benefit (and it is far from clear they have a net health benefit for healthy adults under 50, and possibly older), they SHOULD NEVER, NEVER, NEVER be mandated.
I can’t believe I have to write this, but apparently I do.
Useless information because the vaccines are not supposed to prevent breakthrough infections (it is well established that in that respect they are down to 40% efficacy after a couple months), they are supposed to prevent hospitalizations. Which they do with 80-90% efficacy across all age groups, for 6 months and above, according to the current data. So sorry to disappoint, but the vaccines are doing their job.
Your assertion is unsupported. There isn’t sufficient proper data to reach that conclusion, since the necessary rigorous testing hasn’t been done.
Safety and efficacy has to be established beyond reasonable doubt. That’s the way it is – all the rest is hot air – otherwise the null assumption stands.
That’s ‘the science’.
Rick I agree as a science pureist. However rayc has a point, even if he doesn’t mean it. The ‘vaccines’ are ONLY useful for protecting a breakdown of the health service, if anything at all. Assuming governments for some reason think its better to spend billions on ‘vaccines’ rather than millions on uprating health services, ie more beds, front-line staff etc.
In my view its the combination of protecting politicians arses from potential risks of bad PR of hospital crisis, with the opportunity to introduce biosecurity IDs , that is continuing this shit show. Its quite possible that the current non-vaccines plus boosters do this. Nothing whatsoever to do with public health, but then whoever still thinks it is?
Recent independent research suggests at the 7 month point protection against infection is running at about 20% and hospitalisation at about 50%.
I wonder what it’ll be like at month 8?
Oh, and your ‘they’re supposed to prevent hospitalisations’ is just today’s view. Nearly everyone I know <65 had their vaccines to help achieve herd immunity, not for personal protection.
Don’t allow those goalposts to become too settled. You might find you want to move them again.
I notice you’ve apparently made no account of the numbers of recipients who’ve died shortly after vaccination.
Why is that?
I take it you’re aware that all adverse effects reporting systems are showing record AE rates & record death rates too?
VAERS, Yellow Card & EUDRAvigilance all up around 60x on deaths per million vaccinations & VAERS is up over 400x on pulmonary embolism on the same measure.
There is a tight dose-effect relationship (all AEs are much higher post 2nd than post 1st dose); time-effect relationship (around 30% of the deaths occur in the first three days post vaccination); plausibility is also strong (70% of the AEs are thromboembolic in underlying pathology, and spike protein is established to initiate blood coagulation as well as complement cascade activation).
I’m of this industry for over 30y (though I didn’t work on vaccines). I’d be an unlikely anti-vaxxer. I’m very much in favour of safe medicines & very strict about demonstrating it.
I have been particularly outraged by the improper push into pregnant women. By virtue of age & general fitness, a woman likely to carry a healthy baby to term is simply not at risk from this virus. Additionally, no formal reproductive toxicology has been conducted. We’ve not done anything as reckless as this since thalidomide, over 60 years ago.
Why would anyone in their right mind want to have another dose of this?
https://openvaers.com/covid-data
What a great, but frightening, dashboard. Thanks for the share.
Age / sex breakdown would be helpful. The Real Covid pre-Vaxxination killed the elderly and/or those with multple co-morbidities, male more frequently than female.
This is extremely good news for all , and hammers another nail to the virus’ coffin. Doubtless there will be those like Mike Austin, who will make ignorant half-baked, unfounded claims that the vaccines are unsafe.
Oh you’re definitely satire!
The current situation is such that we need to stop referring to ‘the vaccines’ the A/Z vaccine is now very much off the agenda, the potential new vaccines, Valneva and Novavax, have been torpedoed, sidelined and kicked into the long grass. The whole UK vaccine programme is now based on mRNA vaccines, mainly Pfizer. A few Months ago the Government were expressing their enthusiasm for Novavax and Valneva but they have now pushed these to one side and gone for a total mRNA approach.
It is as if they have received orders from above to go down this route. It seems to me that this has now ceased to be about vaccines for disease control and is now about signing us all up to an mRNA based digital health future.
It really does, doesn’t it. But only in the West……
I expected this because why use such complex, untested & adaptable technology unless the goal was to administer something rather different later.
I can’t be sure of course as I don’t have a copy of the script, but such has been the intensity of global suppression & coordination (implying substantial planning & organisation) that the objective has to be larger than “merely” crushing economies & rendering people slaves to regular injections (if they were benign).
No. It’s always been about mass depopulation as well as totalitarian tyranny over those who remain.
The “vaccines” are unnecessary. Just like the lockdowns, face coverings, closing of the NHS, restriction of travel, “tests” and the millions of pounds wasted on propaganda.
Agreed. What if anything have you concluded is the reason for it all?
The imposition of a totalitarian state as the means by which a new global economy can be implemented.
So how many hip replacements could have be done for that? How many heart attacks treated? Leukemia cases treated? You know, that old fashioned stuff about treating ill people, rather than pissing money away on healthy people.
I recently heard about someone who had the first two jabs, then the booster, caught covid and was dead within 3days…
Colleagues pretty much all had the booster now or booked next week. All healthy, young. We work in a hospital but a separate building and no patient contact. Now they are relieved, feel *safe* again the way they did after the 2nd jab. Don’t see what is going on here.
Looks like if you have had Covid you have lasting antibody protection.
https://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD/status/1446893461458849795
Many many replies to read though.
Sadly my antibody test came back negative. Had a few days of generally feeling ill and lost sense of taste in particular, which left me hopeful that was it. Just some other random illness then. They do still exist.
If they made an informed choice to have it, then good luck to them I say.
COVID Deaths Before and After Mass Vaccinations
Data taken directly from https://coronavirus.jhu.edu
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https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/086/069/852/original/84d9f1bc4646dd3a.mp4
so what is the accusation here? that
a) the virus is a dud, and
b) the world’s governments imposed lockdowns, to soften people up then
c) once people were fed up enough the world’s governments asked their populatons to have vaccines then
d) the vaccines kill off the excess populations allowing the world’s elites
e) to enjoy the world without the burdon of the world’s poor and hence
f) the world’s elite avoid climate catastrophe and live happily ever after…
Is that the plan?
Or is it more simple and economical to explain that things are as they are due to an actual virus and actual vaacines. I tend to favour the simple and economical explanation, the global conspiracy theory seems contrived and unlikely.
Well… that’s all in the realms of conjecture really at this stage. This is a thread about the dangers of the vaccines though which
a) aren’t vaccines,
b) don’t prevent covid
c) don’t stop you spreading covid whatsoever and are killing
d) healthy people in a number of well-documented
e) ways.
You wanted simple and economical, there it is.
Is there currently a condition that causes some people to have sudden significant drop in sats and difficulty breathing that doesn’t fit into accepted medical narrative, there certainly is. Beyond that, the rest can only be political.
“a) the virus is a dud,”
Well, Norway had fewer deaths in 2020 than the previous 5 year average.
And Northern Ireland didn’t have the spikes in all causes deaths that England did.
So it’s definitely not a 21st century Black Death.
“b) the world’s governments imposed lockdowns, to soften people up then”
The world’s governments, with minor exceptions, abandoned the established approach to pandemics – which this wasn’t, according to the long-established definition – on the basis of no evidence whatsoever.
Why?
I ask that often & have never had an adequate response.
I find it creepy that we discarded plans designed for a ten times worse event for no stated reason.
Creepier still is the insertion of 7-8 “Covid lies”, several of which were obvious untruths the first time I heard them.
*lethality exaggerated (IFR 3%, when we knew from Diamond Princess is was 1% in elderly people who make up much of those on cruises)
*Failing to tell people that we always over estimate IFR early in new epidemics because we don’t know how many people acquired the virus yet aren’t ill. It’s recent been calculated that IFR for the entire population isn’t distinguishable from that of not uncommon influenzas. I guessed that in spring 2020. I looked at how IFRs had progressed in the past & an order of magnitude fall wasn’t uncommon.
*claims that everyone was vulnerable (kids don’t get Covid19 & most under 60y in reasonable health don’t die)
*that lockdowns work (we knew they didn’t by summer 2020, yet we’ve used them twice more). They don’t work because transmission between fit strangers outside doesn’t happen & most people who’re ill don’t wander around much. So there we very few good sources outside & in shops, pubs etc. So closing them made no noticeable difference. Transmission was in full flow in hospitals, care homes & to a small extent in private homes.
*that masks work (numerous well conducted trials showed they don’t, among the best being a multiple hospital study comparing blue medical masks with cloth masks vs almost nothing, and medical masks were same outcomes as almost nothing. Cloth masks were WORSE off).
*that PCR as conducted picks out clinical infections from a few incidental copies of broken viral RNA (testing fraud is pretty well established. I was a coauthor on a large review of the test).
that asymptomatic transmission was commonplace when it’s epidemiologically irrelevant (several notorious lies were used to persuade people, an infamous example being by Christian Drosten, Germany’s opposite number to UK’s Ferguson).
*that no one had prior immunity when it was likely some would (it’s probably 30-50%, because there scores of respiratory viruses & several are related to SARS-CoV-2).
*that natural immunity wasn’t thought likely (experts knew that the expectation was that everyone exposed to this virus would acquire immunity which was robust, complete & durable. The closest relative SARS in 2003 still showed good T-cell responses 17 years later).
*misled people into believing that circulating IgG antibodies are critical for host immunity and failing to also mentioning T-cells & secretory IgA.
*that there were no treatments so NPIs while waiting for vaccines was the only option (whereas we knew early on that HCQ + zinc + azithromycin was very good)
*that mechanical ventilation was often needed (in fact it’s almost never appropriate since Covid19 isn’t an obstructive disorder). Misuse of sedation & ventilation is thought likely to have killed thousands.
*that it was reasonable to expect new technology gene-based “vaccines” would probably be available in mere months (despite it normally taking a decade plus even using old technology; not telling people these mRNA or DNA vaccines would be bound to yield spike protein expression in a highly variable manner & with no control of anatomical distribution. They also didn’t mention that spike protein was known to trigger blood clots)
There are doubtless many more lies.
Another implied lie is that on the one hand this a highly transmissible virus yet 20 months into it, we’re still acting as if it’s just arrived. I spoke with several profs of immunology & consultant pulmonologists, all of whom asserted if you’d been patient facing, it wasn’t plausible that you weren’t immune.
Nowadays we’re into 4th injections in Israel. There’s zero precedent for this many injections. If you’re not adequately protected, the most reasonable conclusion is that they’re really not working.
vaccine passports are here completely in Lithuania & en route to complete domination in numerous countries. U.K. will get there in a few months max, I expect.
yet why? Vaccination doesn’t prevent carriage, illness, transmission & at best slightly reduces death from Covid19 as determined by PCR, never by symptoms.
worse, there’s no question that these “vaccines” are very to us & may kill more people than they save.
I failed to mention that there’s a robust line of evidence that, had countries not messed up their normal health & social care, and acted criminally in relation to informed consent to certain hospital treatments (some involving midazolam), we’d not have had an increase in death rates vs other years. Most places didn’t have a pandemic of deaths.
Please: please if anyone still arguing this is a real event, rather than something amplified deliberately (assuming there is a new virus circulating at all), I’d be VERY interested in your rebuttal of as many of the foregoing as you can.
I’ve been a “normie” all my life until this, so it was painful to conclude that there IS a conspiracy & there’s nothing theoretical about it.
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“c) once people were fed up enough the world’s governments asked their populatons to have vaccines”
You missed out the bit about denying there were any treatments other than being jabbed with experimental concoctions, but, yes, governments clearly wanted their populations to be jabbed over and over
“d) the vaccines kill off the excess populations”
There’s absolutely no reason to inject the population repeatedly with experimental gunk in resaponse to a disease which kills ill old people a few months before they would have died anyway.
Do you believe vaccine injuries happen?
Imagine joining the British Army 77th Brigade having been told you would be heroically fighting enemies of the United Kingdom who are spreading dangerous misinformation online which can cause serious harm to the British public..
..only to find that you are spending your time in a basement trolling ordinary law abiding British citizens who are fighting possibly the biggest, most corrupt programme of activity ever conducted by the British government against its own citizens.
Imagine how worthless you would feel, ewloe. You’d look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself: what on earth am I doing with my life? Wouldn’t you?
You wouldn’t want to show your face in the street. Your parents would be ashamed.
Go on ewloe. Tell your CO you quit. Come and join us.
Why do you think people are having these thoughts?
Could it perhaps be because the official narrative is the only one allowed and no challenges in MSM? Could it be because the logic is wrong and the narrative constantly shifts inexorably in one direction? Could it be because anyone who challenges, even with unparalleled credentials is de-platformed? Could it be because even by the governments own figures, which are starting to be obfuscated, that it really isn’t very deadly (yet)? Could it be that cheap and effective AND proven treatments are being ignored? Could it be because laws are being passed to outlaw free speech and legal appeal? Could it be because this was supposed to be “flattening the curve”? Could it be because the governments are ignoring the Nurnberg code?
When you work it all through one possible and logically scenario is depopulation. Another is imposition of totalitarianism. Maybe both. Yes I f’king hope I’m wrong.
How do you account for scores of countries abandoning their very good pandemic preparedness plans with no evidence that they should?
Next, they all adopted the same, wholly untested measures, some of which were known to be useless & therefore lying about them?
Seriously, while countries who often collaborated deciding the same subset of measures might make sense, but they’d done that before and that’s how they’d chosen their 2019 and earlier measures. So why add several things known not to work?
Masks had been repeatedly tested & never reduced transmission of any respiratory virus, while cloth masks increased bacterial infections. Why mask everyone, given the peer reviewed trials?
Asymptomatic transmission was also known to be epidemiologically irrelevant years ago. Why pretend differently now?
I could go on. But I suspect you’re closed to the unbelievable truth.
Ewloe is clearly on here to get a perverse kick out of antagonizing everyone. I’d be inclined to ignore him/her. No down-ticks, no replies. No anything. Engaging just encourages his/her infantilism.
I hope this is BS but worth keeping an eye on:
Kieran-Morissey & WHO
It “may” fail to load the videos (Odysee) and invites you to “refresh the app” in a message at the bottom of the error page – this worked for me.
This is my first post. I’ve been following this site for a long time and have found it a valuable source of information, as well as helping to confirm that there are others that are like minded and aligned with my thinking. I feel compelled to comment now as it’s apparent that the site must be having success, as it’s now attracting some consistent 77th attention to dilute it’s impact. They are very obvious.
I think this a lie.
I think the number is nowhere near 2 million.
The booster programme began w/c 20th September.
Look at the data. There is no way they have done 2 million boosters. This graph is for ALL doses, including first doses, second doses and teenagers, and totals little more rhan 600,000 doses.
I call bullshit.
I did wonder and looking at this, yes you’re right.
Sorry, posted prematurely.
There are 18 data points on the graph, let’s say an average of 65,000 doses per day. Just over a million doses. In total! Including 1st and 2nd doses.
No way the boosters can be more than 2 million over that period.
Unless they are hiding the booster data from OurWorldInData…
In addition, the graph above is for the UK, but the 2 million figure is supposedly for England alone. Makes the figure even less likely…
Yellow Card Data as of 22-Sept-2021
I think this is very scary.
Governments’ numbers always doubtful: –
Whole truth – where’s context – total offered booster?
Half-truth – where’s other side of story – number declined offer?
‘Nudge’ alias ‘crowd-control’ alias ‘market creation’ – millions boosted – everyone’s doing it. “Been quick” – quick, don’t miss out, last chance to buy, etc.
Having depressed everyone, over-bearing overly-possessive regime offers a boost (of morale).
People are not ‘yo-yos’. Control of own strings belongs to self and to no one else. ‘Up-the-garden-path’ and ‘project fear’ are tricks of the psychopathic and weak.
67% and 73% of what size total population? Is total under 18 really a third and total over 18 two-thirds of total population?
Other side of story – 33% and 27% un-jabbed or partially so. 6% too close to 5% confidence level to view it as anything but both about a third.
A third is significant % and if population is 66 M, a very high number – no un-jabbed or paially so individual need feel alone or left out
Poor sods.
Two million gullible people and counting.
Covid hysteria still gripping the nation. Are we addicted to drama in this country?
Everyone I know who is feverishly testing has had the v. They love it!! They just love letting everyone know they have it.
This is the way I live my life and it’s good, I can recommend it: no mask, no testing, no v, no fear, no illness (mental or physical), no TV licence.
Are the vaccines so ineffective that in less than six months a booster is needed? I think I would rethink that situation guys. The only people right now that we know (over twenty) with Covid, all double jabbed. Get it, it ain’t working. Some very ill despite the mantra “you won’t get very sick, go into hospital and you won’t die”. Okay, sure I believe that
Several years ago I remember hearing that the reason nobody had bothered to find a “cure” for the common cold was that it continually mutates so any vaccines would be relatively useless against it. Covid 19 – also a coronavirus – mutates in a similar way. However today’s experts say it is effective against variants. I will take the booster because I think vaccinations are generally a good idea. I know others see things very differently. I would probably be better protected by just acquiring natural immunity. The problem is that thanks to Government scaremongering, a significant number of people still will not leave their homes. I feel it my civic duty to reassure them that I am not a carrier of the bubonic plague. I wish that the Government’s nudge teams could be held directly accountable for the damage they have inflicted on the mental health of the weak and vulnerable in our society.
Evidence from all around the world, in particular Israel, shows that the vaccine doesn’t work to protect people against the Delta variant even if it did provide some protection against the original Wuhan virus.
That’s before we talk about all the adverse effects reported.
But I support the right of people to choose to take the vaccine if that is what they want.
You do know that the ‘vaccines’ don’t stop you catching or spreading the virus? Yet you intend to have a booster? How will you signal to others that you have had this booster – will you wear a t-shirt with a booster slogan on it?
It is Government sponsored scaremongering that has led to this problem. I expect them to undo the damage that they have done but will be happy to wear the booster tea shirt if it helps.
The T shirt suggestion was hardly serious as you must know..the govt fear campaign will not be undone, it will be kept on a low heat. ‘Cooked goose’..X 65 million requires frequently turning up the psychological heat.
Nobody has a civic duty to become a brick in the wall of defense the government claims to be building out of soap bubbles: If anything, this vaccination offers a certain amount of protection against life-threatening COVID-19 which occurs only rarely, even in elderly people. According to some guy from the vaccine priority commission, statistical chance of survival for people up to 70 is >99% and still >95% for people up to 80. It’s not sterilizing which means it doesn’t prevent transmission. People who are unware of this are better served by telling them the truth than by collborating in maintaining the fictional story.
The irrational subset who insist on panicking about COVID will freak out because of another marginal health risk sooner or later and are thus best ignored. Eg, yesterday, I saw a masked lady anxiously pressing a face shield to her wool pullover, presumably in order to avoid contaminated air, while going down an escalator in a busy shopping center where most people were – thankfully – unmasked. There’s no way to counter this level of idiocy.
So – having seen that two previous jabs have been of no use whatsoever in the vast majority of cases (if not all) these narrow-minded eejits are STILL gagging to get a third.
They say you can’t educate pork. I think they’re right.