The Italian Government will force all workers – both in the public and the private sectors – to have a ‘Green Pass’ proving that they have either been vaccinated, tested or recently recovered from Covid. Those who don’t comply could have their pay stopped after five days and businesses that don’t check passes will be heavily punished. BBC News has the story.
The measure, due to come into force on October 15th, aims to boost vaccinations in a country that has been badly hit by the virus.
Green Pass certificates for Covid, provided both digitally and on paper, are already required to access Italian train stations, cinemas, restaurants, gyms and swimming pools.
School staff are also required to show a pass and some teachers have reportedly been turned away from work.
On Thursday, the Italian Government approved a new law to extend the requirements to all workplaces and employees across all sectors, including the self-employed.
Businesses and staff could face fines of up to €1,500 (£1,280) if people are found to be working without a valid Green Pass.
Announcing the decision, Health Minister Roberto Speranza said the new measures would improve safety and “make our vaccination campaign even stronger”.
“The implementation of a pass such as the one we are bringing into force with this decree will, we are certain, help us push forward this vaccination campaign,” he said.
Despite a vocal anti-vaccination minority, Italians have broadly backed the Government’s vaccination campaign.
Nearly 65% of Italians have now been fully vaccinated, but infections have been rising, driven by the Delta variant.
We followed Italy’s lead on locking down. It’s not inconceivable that we could do the same on Covid passes.
The BBC News report is worth reading in full.
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walking towards machine guns with a tin helmet and a rifle is definitely going to provide the breakthrough
one last push lads!
Italy hasn’t suffered from the virus, it has suffer from the lockdowns
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“It’s just a cock up…” Toby.
There are no plans for a global digital Id or digital currencies. Honest.
Trust me.
Don’t ask why the lawyers for daily sceptics also work for the BBC. This isn’t a honeypot site. Honest.
UK version of Operation Mockingbird still going is it Toby?
Yeah Toby – wake. the. fuck. up!
. . . or are you part of the agenda as well?
Of course he is part of the program. Sites like this are invented to let idiots vent their frustration online all while under careful watch of security services.
For sheer base ingratitude, that takes the biscuit – assuming you are a Covid sceptic.
I think rayc is a covid sceptic
As well as being ungrateful, I don’t think it’s a very helpful statement. It might be true, but it’s pretty unlikely and if rayc believes it’s true, why is he here
I disagree with TY on many things and openly criticise, but I have never doubted his sincerity
Everything that is said on this site is monitored by the security services.
Just dont give TY money, he is not a charity (a bit like the Guardian asking for money to maintain its high journalistic standards. That filthy organ is a mouthpiece for the deep state too.)
I used to know someone who ran the IT for a large ME/CFS website with very active international forums, and the site was monitored day and night by two Whitehall IP addresses.
Why? because there is a link between CFS/ME, vaccines and Gulf War syndrome, and what the government and corporates did to deprive the Gulf veterans of compensation for injuries suffered during military service.
Security services? Nothing better to do? Well when the gov’t wasted 5 billion pounds on masks not fit for purpose I guess anything is possible.
Me neither; don’t agree with the idiot venting comment, tad too self abusing, but if you do not consider that the “security services” monitor telegraphic messages, emails etc they have had this capacity since WWI. Wireless monitoring predated GCHQ and with Menwith Hill they would appear to be fully engaged; as I have mentioned previously I do not believe they struggle with PGP/WhatsApp either….
The strong impression I get is that TY and the team are fighting the “agenda” (if there even is one) with everything they’ve got by popularizing a counter-narrative – always an important element of any functioning democracy.
You’re right about the venting frustration thing, and perhaps also this site probably is being monitored by various agencies like perhaps SPI-B to get an idea of what kinds of ideas are going around among those who challenge the government.
But I don’t think that is intentionally the case on the part of the website’s authors. However, it’s probably a reason to stay vigilant to any targeted attack on the critics that may come our way, possibly in the form of attempts in the commentariat to debunk the specific theories and proposals outlined here, and propaganda-like smears and ad-hominem attacks.
There is clearly a concerted effort to make criticism of the official line concerning government action look like heresy and I’m sure those lockdown zealots on a mission to round up the heretics will take things out of context from sceptical material and use them as ammunition.
You hard-faced bastard.
Do the rest of us a favour and FO.
Toby’s plan was to get all the dissidents here in one place so the Police can grab your i.p. addresses. They know who you are now. Knock, knock at 3 o’clock in the morning by the men in black balaclavas…
Pretty sure they already know who I am.
That’ll be cos they’re libel lawyers.
Nothing sinister going on here. Get the jab or starve!
Get the jab or don’t pay taxes, rather. Surely a brilliant move in a country nowadays most famous for it’s organized crime gangs.
Yep, I guess some of those laid off people fucked by the government will find another sort of “employment” sooner than later.
and plan B is the plan for the UK…
vax passports will be needed to prevent lockdowns – mission accomplished!
I bet ministers are waiting to see how much (if any) backlash there will be in Western nations that implement this sort of thing. If they believe they can get away with it, they’ll go for it.
They’ve been getting away with it since March 2020. There has been little backlash so far. I’ll tell you what has happened, though – Rishi Sunak has splashed out £400,000 on a swimming pool for his mansion. £20 off ‘Universal benefit’ for the poor, though. That £400,000 has to come from somewhere!
Every EU country now has ‘Covid Passports’ already. Since June/July. Did you really think the UK was not going to have them too?
just get the bloody virus – its harmless
unlike the ‘vaccines’
‘novel vaccines with no long term safety data’ – JCVI
Depends a bit on age and co-morbidities. Ideally, we should wait until there are some good treatments for it before catching it.
But ALL treatments are being actively suppressed in order to pressure people to get teh vaccine…
“Depends a bit on age and co-morbidities”
yes, like all colds. I’m thinking about the younger workers being forced out of society by the green pass. They are pretty much zero risk but they can judge it for themselves. I was glad to get it (in my 50s) unjabbed and my wife is happy I gave it to her. We are done and dusted
I’m a lot older – but WHEN the medical establishment allows us to have a working treatment I expect to get it, just like a cold…
Despite all marvels of technology a cure for common cold or runny nose has not yet been invented. The only “treatment” you can get is to mask symptoms.
viruses and runny noses are very natural accurances. simply the body cleaning out.
I’m also a lot older. But even with possible vulnerability, I can see that the potential real risk is nothing to make a fuss about.
And considering the “high levels of infection” in Italy this will inevitably lead to high levels of immunity. Didn’t think of that did they?
Take a look at the ONS vaxxed vs unvaxxed death stats, not just for covid, but all causes. Vaxxed death rate per 100k was running at five times the unvaxxed death rate when the figures ended in july.
No one is interested.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/deathsinvolvingcovid19byvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween2januaryand2july2021
people arent dying of covid they are dying of there usual illnesses called co-morbilities.
even if you take the stats as true its a 0.01% chance of serious illness!
And how are you going to prove you’ve had it? Do you think they’ll make it easy for you?
Its all unacceptable. I was just saying what I would do – given the current situation – if I was Italian and didn’t want to starve
we also have to protest and the rest
I’ll be in London Saturday along with a load of others (I hope)
Quite easy to test and detect antibodies…
Antibodies are mostly irrelevant. T and B ‘memory cells’ which produce antibodies when necessary is where it’s at.
This should be common knowledge by now. Must try harder.
It’s just one of the reasons why you shouldn’t take the vaccine if you’ve had the virus – ADE.
The only commercially available t cell test, the T-SPOT is unreliable for past infections beyond six months unfortunately. I think I had covid in January 2020, but cannot prove it. But I haven’t been ill since, so….
You’d think, but that’s not quite so. Furthermore, why would they give you such an easy out? I would think that any exemption to vaccination will be designed in such a way as to make the person’s life as miserable as possible, since their goal is to vaccinate people rather than ensure people’s health.
Not for everyone. We have to be accurate. But for almost all.
I thought so to until my friend’s husband (fit healthy early 50s) died a week ago. Self treated at home incl 5d of ivermectin, zn, C, D3, but still felt terrible. Called GP day 12 as blood O2 dropped, she said not an emergency. Taken into ICU that night. Pure O2 didn’t help. Put on ventilator – dead by morning. His wife was also very poorly with it. 8 year old child zero symptoms. I had it too in June, and had a week of fever, exhaustion, metallic taste, no appetite, then fine (I nebulised colloidal silver daily during symptoms to protect my lungs) . This death has shaken me. For some people it is very serious, but it would be much less so if the FLCCC’s treatment protocols were universally offered! It’s shocking that the NHS still ignores them.
I’m so sorry, this disease is so random. I would be classed as having a co-morbidity and I take an imunosupressing drug. I also took 5 days of Ivermectin, zinc, VitD etc..Dr prescribed antibiotics for the cough. I was about 7 days ill and took another 2 weeks to feel like my lungs were back to normal. The worst part was the anxiety created by the fearmongering.
Good job I didn’t sell my tent, looks like I’ll be needing it soon!
Nearly 65% of Italians have now been fully vaccinated, but infections have been rising, driven by the Delta variant
erm…. doesn’t this suggest the vaccines are not fit for purpose (unless the purpose is to introduce vaccine digital ID passports)
cant even see they are rising
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
Yeah its pure confusion. They like to say cases on the rise so we need vaccine passports otherwise its lockdowns again. Its an attack on the mind.
Democracy?
Who’s actually in charge here, “we, the people” via an elected government or some shady unknown outfit behind the scenes?
Any honest scientist not in receipt of kickbacks can tell “the science” as used against the people is a load of bolleaux.
“Some shady unknown outfit behind the scenes” is in charge. It’s called the Establishment.
The way it works is that in society ambitious people push to get the the top. At the top you find a host of other ambitious people, who realise that it’s in their best interests to stick together and keep other competitors out. So there is an unspoken group at the top who run things, and prefer to remain out of teh limelight…
This questions is old. There is no democracy. We are governed by a bureaucracy. We’re just trying to make sense of who directs the bureaucracy.
If they have their pay stopped for 5 days, do they still have to turn up for work?
The pay is not stopped for 5 days. After 5 days they can be barred from receiving payment (and entering workplace) indefinitely (or until they are vaccinated, I suppose). It seems that they cannot be fired on the spot, but an employee who doesn’t need to work nor to be paid is practically as good as no employee.
” Nearly 65% of Italians have now been fully vaccinated, but infections have been rising, driven by the Delta variant.. ”
This is actually a lie. If you search the Italian coronavirus statistics you will see they have been falling for the last 5 weeks. the ” journalist ” who wrote this for the BBC is either lazy or is just repeating the propaganda.
i posted similar below
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
Correct. Data can be seen here.
its just another example of a lie that gets through because people can’t be bothered to check
Yes, that used to be the job of the journalists. But the journalists all work for the governments now. We are the new journalists.
its pathetic and just shows you can’t trust anything you read. a well paid journalist makes a statement that is 180 degrees apart from reality – and always in the direction of more panic
It’s not technically a lie. They don’t claim that infections are rising, only that they did rise in the past. That’s a common trick of British journalism originating from the tabloid world: Word an accurate statement such that people a guaranteed to misread it as the wrong statement you really wanted to make.
I used to mock this in the past as Having sex with EU citizens linked to cancer!
No, sorry, that’s a lie. A statement intended to deceive.
Who knows? It’s certainly not possible to prove this, hence, a formal complaint. about it won’t work.
Formal complaints to the BBC serve only to remind them someone is watching them, though I expect they feel pretty unassailable – because they are
I know – it’s a lie, intended to deceive. There’s no reasonable reading of that sentence that leads to any other conclusion.
Don’t agree.
Have been rising means were rising in the past and continue to do so.
Rose would mean it happened in the past but no longer are.
Had been rising would also put the rising entirely in the past.
There is no normal interpretation of ‘have been rising” that suggests the rising happened in the past and is no longer rising. The phrase suggests 100% that it is happening now.
Yup, it’s a statement intended to deceive – a lie.
‘Have been rising’ implies the past tense to me:
I have been going to the gym for 20 years but now I’ve stopped as I’m too knackered when I wake up in the morning.
I have been going to the gym for 20 years and I intend to keep doing it until I drop dead.
The ‘have been’ is in the past but gives no indication of what is happening in the present or may in the future.
Covid cases have been rising but now they’ve stopped.
or
Covid cases have been rising but now they’re going absolutely ballistic.
Covid cases have been rising is only partical information and not sufficient to reach a conclusion.
(IMO of course)
If you’ve been going to the gym for 20 years, you are still going to gym.
If you’ve stopped, you went to the gym for 20 years.
No in not, I’ve stopped.
LOL anyway agree to disagree as o have work to do
According to https://www.ef.co.uk/english-resources/english-grammar/present-perfect-continuous, both started in the past and is ongoing and started in the past but has now stopped are possible.
Mario Draghi OMRI (Italian: [ˈmaːrjo ˈdraːɡi]; born 3 September 1947) is an Italian economist, banker, academic, and civil servant who has been serving as Prime Minister of Italy since 13 February 2021.[1][2] He previously served as President of the European Central Bank from 2011 until 2019. Draghi was also Chair of the Financial Stability Board from 2009 to 2011 and Governor of the Bank of Italy from 2006 to 2011.[3]
Yep they haven’t had an elected government for some time. Its called a ‘technocracy’ which is a modern polite way of saying a fascist state.
Not that there’s a conspiracy or anything…
How long will it take after implementation of this draconian law for people to notice that despite everyone being jabbed, tested or had the virus the numbers getting ill are still rising?
When they’ve removed the unjabbed from the equation who are they going to blame?
I wonder if they’ll wake up when the first job every monday morning is to get their booster and friends and relatives are dying from ‘coincidence’ around them.
They are going to blame the lack of booster vaccine. Thanks for asking.
After Draghi’s term as ECB President ended in 2019, he initially returned to private life. On 3 February 2021, in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, Draghi was invited by Italian PresidentSergio Mattarella to form a government of national unity, following the resignation of Giuseppe Conte.[14][15][16] After successful negotiations with parties including the League, the Five Star Movement, the Democratic Party and Forza Italia, Draghi was sworn in as Prime Minister on 13 February, pledging to oversee effective implementation of COVID-19 economic stimulus.[17]
From here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Draghi
So not voted in by the population. An unelected financial beaurocrat working with big Pharma to control everything the population does.
How is that not Fascism.
Once I would have sighed and said, poor Italians, hopeless at picking leaders. But now I repent of my former self, for We Are No Better Than They.
It’s in no sense fascist as it’s (among other things) not corporatist: Draghi’s government is based on some coalition in an elected parliament.
NB: This is not supposed to imply that it’s somehow morally superior over fascism which it certainly isn’t.
Back in 2018 the centre left coalition lost office partly because of its corrupt and oppressive vaccine policies – instituted as part of Obama’s Global Health Security Agenda.
https://www.bmj.com/content/360/bmj.k1378/rr
https://www.bmj.com/content/362/bmj.k3596/rr-6
Within week the right-wing coalition had ratted on its commitment to repeal the legislation.
Italy embraces fascism, once more.
leopards and spots
Who will get strung up this time?
But it’s not a global conspiracy.
what’s the bets something similar is happening within our dodgy gaggle of ‘government’….
AUSTRALIA: Billionaire mining magnate, Clive Palmer, says the Premier of NSW, Gladys Berejiklian, is controlled by pharmaceutical lobbyists.
“She is being directed by a lobbyist in Sidney who is being paid by Astra Zeneca and by Pfizer tens of millions of dollars to get these policies through to make sure the vaccine is pushed.”
https://rumble.com/vmm5dm-australian-billionaire-clive-palmer-says-premier-is-controlled-by-pharmaceu.html
Only just realised it is from the BBC and therefore completely and utterly pointless. The only institution which lies on a more regular and official basis is this Government. The real question remains “Why are they so desperate to inject us all?”.
I think the only answer to your question that we can be certain of is that it isn’t for the benefit of our health.
That has been obvious since around the end of March 2020. They were so concerned about our health they closed the hospitals and refused to use any treatments on people such as Ivermectin.
follow the money…
https://rumble.com/vmm5dm-australian-billionaire-clive-palmer-says-premier-is-controlled-by-pharmaceu.html
and all of it leads back to the same people and the same big companies. Communism here we come in the worlds first world war without a shot just as the EU won Europe without a shot.
Hold the line
Well, the Australians know where she is, and she can’t hide with a nose that size.
It’s just a cock up. None of them are clever enough to implement a global tyranny based on a virus with a recovery rate of above 99% (before and after vaccines were introduced).
It’s just a cock up that the smiling assassins jesting around maskless in Cornwall at the G7 have just happened to implement the same policies one after another in sequence around the world).
It’s just a cock up that the only actual likely policy to be implemented in the UK this winter is the one which follows the rest of the previously free Western liberal democracies’ descent into fascism
Honestly, it’s just a cock up….
Nothing to see here.
“Herd Community Instinct”….All the Politicians/CMOs/SAGE types can’t bear the thought they are behind the Coronavirus Curve – “well, if they are doing that , we’ve got to follow” said Ferguson…its now an addiction…and they cannot get the worm out of their brains.
As mentioned above, just like with the lockdowns Italy might be the ‘test case’ for this. Remember that quote from Pants Down saying words to the effect of ‘we didn’t think we could get away with CCP style lockdowns in liberal democracies but then the Italians went along with it’ which basically opened the floodgates in the Western world. To me I think this is a really pertinent fact and we need to be really mindful of one European country ‘getting away with it’ showing the other fascist dictator fucks that their citizens will probably go along with it too which basically green lights the whole thing. I pray the Italians can mount some good pushback to this otherwise we’re all fucked. Forza!
Mussolini would be proud.
vaccine passports equals
unlimited mandated vaccines equals
unlimited profits equals
mission accomplished!
The bit you missed is that the Grand Total = Global Control.
What will Italy do when the numbers still continue to go up because the not-vaccines do not prevent you catching or passing on Covid? Start shooting people? Yellow Stars for the Vaccinated? Unclean painted on doors? End of the day when you persist with stupidity you end with stupidity. When Governments do stupidity you end up with dead people as we have already seen from NHS closures to the dead from not vaccines. Where does all this end?
What makes you think governments want this to end? Why would they? Almost limitless power without responsibility.
What will Italy do when the numbers go up? Who knows? Boosters, more tests, lockdowns, more masks, endless lies. Governments everywhere are able to do more or less any old rubbish, lie about it, and get away with it because of a compliant media and opposition and judiciary.
It’s not stupidity, it’s evil.
Pretty easy to tell what they will do – mandate more/new vaccines.
Wait for the (un) authorised leak of NHS data giving the name and addresses of the unjabbed!
This what the meetings between the UK, US and Australia were really about the day. How to roll this out.
It’s just a party of confusion and errors. There’s no conspiracy.
Wow. For the first time since March 2020, I am genuinely shocked by a news item.
I didn’t expect they would move this far this quickly.
I think this is the first country in the world to go this far. I wonder if it is a coincidence that it is also the first country that instituted national lockdowns and the first country to copy the initial China approach.
Is it a coincidence they are front runners on this too?
Yup, it’s a pretty dark day, one of the darkest yet. I’ve got lots of friends and family there. Most are jabbed covidians, but one is an employer and fervently anti vaxx coercion (funnily enough she was married to a pharma exec…). God knows what she’ll do. She’s not vaxxed herself and I can’t see her forcing her staff to get it. Maybe they will just have to take tests all the time, or pay for them and pretend they are negative. I don’t know what the testing process is there, whether they have a similar system to here where you can buy LFTs to take at home and post the results online but there’s no check you’ve actually done the test properly.
The staggering thing is that in just 18 months society has accepted that in order to participate in society you must prove your health status. I’m not sure that, aside from slavery, this isn’t the most totalitarian thing humanity has ever dreamt up.
Basically, if you don’t prove you don’t have covid (by a very arbitrary technocratically defined standard) you can rot.
Wow.
I wonder if it’s also a coincidence that they have a high number of Chinese employed and providing work in the country?
China has bought up a good portion of the UK’s education system.
I think Cyprus beat them to that achievement. In Cyprus you can’t even shop for food without test/vaccination proof.
Yes, from an island paradise to a police state in less than two years. Even the politicians there admitted that mandated wearing of masks outside was nothing to do with public health.
If the experience of the lady from Lithuania had been reported in the MSM following grossly draconian government diktats, I think that might have shocked lots of people east to the Baltic States too…
I thought Mandatory still requires consent and is not underpinned by Law?That’s why fines are never processed and exemptions are readily available.Either way they can fuck off!
Toby Young is up to his neck with the Establishment is he not?This site maybe be a honey trap a barometer to monitor dissent.
Come and get me and see what happens!!!!
Do you keep an axe under your bed?
He’ll need at least an L7A2 GPMG.
But he’s not getting mine.
In Italy a large part of the economy is ‘black’. This will only make it larger.
Italy are on the CCP’s Belt and Road ‘Initiative’. But I’m sure that’s purely a coincidence ….
https://thediplomat.com/2021/03/the-belt-and-road-in-italy-2-years-later/
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Brilliant!
Mussolini would be proud.
Just take the jab! All will go back to normal if you do! Yet the jabbed are suffering moral and psychic torment even if no physical side effects. They buy a lie to get only further slavery.
All those Brits who got the jabs to go abroad to be be told they can’t! There must be thousands who have properties abroad that are just rotting away, or, by now, probably occupied by squatters. And Rishi just pays £400,000 for a new swimming pool in his back yard…
For f____’s sake – ALL workers????
Fascism has been revived then repackaged.
The ‘Wisdom of Italy’ hardly has good reviews, with their incontinent panics bearing no fruit.
“Italy has lousy government” shocker!
Is “Super” Mario still involved there I wonder?
This is quite stunning however for most of us here not surprising. It is the plan, has been the plan and will be the plan. Total global digital control, controlling every aspect of life.
Covid-19 is just the beginning of course and countries are moving at different speeds, depending on vaccine uptake, resistance and propaganda uptake.
And as we know the Globalist leaders will not stop now, they want to reduce population in number and in spirit.
Never surrender, once we do its over forever.
They won’t stop and the sooner that people realise that the better. It will come down to control of everyday spending (no more fatty food for you this week, no more alcohol, definitely no more tobacco products). And for controlling travel (no more petrol for you this week, no more flying -you have used up your carbon quota). There are none so blind as those who cannot see! It never was about a virus.
That’s what I’ve been saying since March 2020. That this was not about a ‘virus’ but control of the people, at the same time relieving them of their money, not least by having to fork out for expensive PCR tests run by companies owned by the likes of Faisal of Halifax (RT Diagnostics) who give backhanders to those who give them permission to operate their scams.
Still, millions are still scared witless about this invisible virus, and have rushed to the ‘vaccines’ as their saviour, and they simply can’t bear to think that they have been conned. No, it can’t be…. the NHS…. hero nurses… must.. bang.. on… saucepan… it’s all the fault of the unvaccinated!
Of course this has all been arranged. Even the Queen was taking the piss in Cornwall at the G7 meeting, no face mask for her!
Surely the Italian people are not going to stand for this? It is outright tyranny.
Having lived and worked in Italy I can see the fake green pass industry licking their lips at this.There will almost certainly be a lot of takers!
Have you heard of face recognition cameras? These will eventually be linked to legit ‘health passes’.
And your bank card. No valid vaxx pass, no access to your money. Well, yes, you can laugh now, but did you think a year ago people would still be wearing face masks in September 2021?
If the Italians want a civil war, no-one’s stopping them. But they seem to have been a spineless lot so far.
I Think you’re correct buy, sadly, from what I’ve seen so far I can’t see us being different.
What seems to be the motive for governments to increase pressure to get injected is the need for them to remove as much as possible any control group which can be used in any legal action against them.
Plus the ‘go slow’ ( relative in this crazy rush) on Novavax and Valneva ‘vaccines’ is the desire to fulfill contractual obligation to Pfizer, which may also involve the exclusion of more conventional approaches in promotion of the mRNA technique which is going to be rolled out for all and every new treatment for all diseases.
So basically cover arse and take more bribes. Opportunistically of course use it all to cement the future bio-security fascist state.
I think that you are spot on in your analysis. I also think that the fact that Vanguard and Blackrock have major shareholdings in Pfizer has something to do with it.
Just Vanguard and Blackrock/iShares?
With respect, you are barking up the wrong tree. Google
Passive ETF/index replication
True dat
Don’t understand your comment. Vanguard and Blackrock run the biggest passive ETF funds.
Is this the Italian equivalent of holding Australia’s beer? Western nations are falling over themselves to be the most authoriarian as possible on COVID.
Does ‘The West’ even exist at this point, given most Western nations (aside from a few or sub-states/regions within them who are resisting) now act like Communist/fascist dictatorships?
Mussolini would be proud!
Toby – if this sort of thing is a ‘cock’up’, then its thelargest, most-co-ordinated one of all time!
All very predictable from the moment Mario Draghi was “chosen” to head a national unity government earlier this year.
Having dithered for a while between the perfect storm and the conspiracy theory explanations for all this lunacy, the simultaneous ramping up of mandates in various places like the US, Aus, Italy makes it hard to deny that there is at least some global coordinating effort taking place.
They’re not just copying each other.
I swear that governments around the world are competing to outdo each other in seeing what they can get away with before people go ape shit. And the answer is: alot.
Fear is the key especially where sheep are concerned. No different from Goebbels – although they had to give radios away – this lot just snap their fingers at the BBC.
Of course – Italy does have some history with this sort of fascism. Il Duce was also a prick.
And, unlike our Supreme Leader, he had some balls attached.
Italy is no longer a sovreign country it is ran from the EU Draghi is an EU mandarin
No doubt the Mafia are watching. I know from “friends in Italy” that they’re one step ahead in being able to produce fakes.
Will be a goldmine across the world 10% – 20% will be in the market for one.
By the way, hello 77th “Brigade”. Lol.
I am only, of course joking -but, it’s well known that the existing bio/passport is easy to fake.
Essentially – clear judgment is very simple :
Any person/body backing this sort of thing is – at first or second hand – promoting evil. We have seen enough in history to know that without contradiction.
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Can someone answer this question as it appears brain dead journalists will not ask the question,
An unvaccinated person returning from abroad must take a test prior to travel to the UK, they then must isolate for up to 10 days. However it is known the unvaccinated is free of Covid at the time of travel.
The vaccinate person even though they can still catch and transmit the virus does not have to take the test prior to travel and in most cases does not have to isolate.
Is it not logical then that the Vaccinated person, is more of a threat of spreading the virus than the unvaccinated, as apart from the certificate to qualify them as an obedient serf, it provides less confidence with regards to their health status than the unvaccinated who has been through tests.
Surely this is absolute conclusive evidence that this vaccine passport is nothing about health and everything about segregation and control
This is circumstantial evidence for the theory that the WHO is conducting an eradicate disease with non-sterilizing vaccine campaign: It is conjectured that vaccination reduces transmission somewhat. Hence, the more people are vaccinated, the more transmission gets reduced. Hence, it’s not absolutely impossible that eradication of Sars-CoV2 will succeed at about the time eradication of polio with a non-sterilzing vaccine has succeeded: In 50, 100, 150 or 200 years, God only knows and who’d want to know that, anyway.
Just keep on vaxxing! The magic must work some day!
Thank you RW
Note to Boris Johnson: just because Italy has done something doesn’t mean you have to do it.
Another country bought. By whom? I think most people know. Why would anyone make or want a passport for a vaccine which is a massive failure. The funny thing we all know what is going on but are powerless to do much about it.
So according to this story if correct, the Italian Government is as let us not forget a supposedly democratic operation, and a part of the EU. The Italian Government is going to deny, men and women the right to earn a wage in order to feed, home, and clothe their children, and if these Men and Women do not take this very unreliable, but still experimental product, the Italian Government will starve them.
The fact that if this is true, and is just another small news story is truly, truly shocking. Has the EU or other Democratic governments spoken out against what the Italian Government is doing to its own people?If not one can only conclude that the unvaccinated are as one politician in Italy said, are nothing better than sewer rats, and Europe condones this evil act.
All the signs for this was there. They mentioned multiple times but this site pretends when they don’t admit it directly then it cannot be true.
This thinking is obsolete. Between the lines are all the details we need.
CLEARLY there is an agreed upon plan between countries to act in the same way. Whether planned before or not I’ll let you guess.
Fascism’s coming home!
I’m in Italy at the moment. I have a paper certificate of antibodies no jab, my husband has a paper certificate for 2 jabs. So far we haven’t had to use them as we have eaten outside in restaurants. We have been asking the owners if we were to need to eat inside would they accept these papers, most have said yes but some have said no. Both the customer and the restauranter face fines if they are seen to have no green pass.
I’m completely against passes of any kind btw, but at least in Italy natural antibodies are recognised as a thing!
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