Are ministers having second thoughts about introducing vaccine passports at nightclubs and other ‘large venues’ – or has the rhetoric always been empty, intended only to scare people into getting ‘jabbed’? A report in the i suggests that at least one of these scenarios could be true, especially following recent criticism of the Government’s proposals by Tory MPs, with one former minister saying that vaccine passports are likely to be ditched because Boris Johnson “hates the idea”.
Serious doubts have emerged over the policy, with officials now looking at whether case rates will require such measures.
A Whitehall source said “no decisions have been made yet” on the proposals, despite the Government insisting that the passes will be mandatory from the end of the month.
The source added that the Government was “watching the data and seeing what’s needed”, adding that it was up in the air as to whether the measures will be introduced.
It is understood, however, that infection rates would need to fall significantly for the Government to change its stance.
A Tory former minister told i they also suspected vaccine passports could be ditched, adding that Boris Johnson “hates the idea” and was just threatening their introduction to encourage young people to get jabbed.
It comes after the Vaccines Minister sparked a furious response from his own backbenchers when he said the Government was pressing on with the policy even though it “goes against everything I believe in”. …
Tory MPs lined up to attack the plans in the Commons, with former Chief Whip Mark Harper demanding the Government drop the proposals. …
A separate cabinet source said the Government’s position remained unchanged, adding: “We are still working through the details and criteria of how it would apply.”
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Because they now know that vaccines do little to stop transmission, I suspect that they will be going for evidence of lateral flow tests instead. That is even more intrusive, possibly illegal under GDPR, and will have the added effect of bumping up the ‘case’ figures. It looks as if we’re being softened up for a return to the ridiculous and pointless masks too.
smoke and mirrors. The very fact Stasi Sturgeon has done it up here should only make people realise it will happen down there too.
How charmingly naïve. “Vaccine passports” – pronounced social credit score apps – are the goal, and always have been.
Princess Nut Nut’s husband has no say in the matter, and never did.
He is only following orders.
Since when has a governments system ever worked? How many billion of our money did they waste on the NHS computerised system and never got it working to the design? Look at trap and trick, £37 billion for a rubbish system that doesn’t work and easy to fool. (Only zealots downloaded the app and T&T only use a couple of phone numbers that are easy to block. Also operators don’t know who or what’s going on, multiple calls to the same person from different operators and when asked questions they don’t know etc).
I’ll believe “Health Passports” when I see it and then find out what the work around is.
update from Greece just tried to get on the ferry to elefanithos a few minutes ferry from mainland no vaccine certificate or test for covid turned away. now we attempt to et on a beach
Is that Crete ? Sounds awful …
no it’s the peloponnese.
un vaccinated are very very obviously being othered it’s very sickening and frightening,
It’s already happening. I have to show my ‘covid pass’ to enter a gig I’m now told, even before they’re ‘mandatory’ and it’s in a big park outside. Because it hasn’t been cancelled I can’t get a refund. Tickets are going in the bin. The nhs already have an app to use to get your pass. It’s here already, next stop will be that you will need it to work anywhere or claim benefits I expect.
Meanwhile in Australia, the Vaccine Passport rears it’s fat head in the two most locked down states.
The New South Wales state government under the once-Glorious Gladys Berjiklian (as named by the ‘moderate’ opponents of lockdown for her moderate, ‘targeted’ lockdowns) has announced its ‘Roadmap’ out of lockdown. Producce your Vaxx Passport and you get some treats like attendance at weddings, funerals and places of worship (still capped at fifty but we don’t want to overdo the freedom thing) and you are permitted to dance at weddings but can only eat or drink if seated (this somehow has something to do with a virus?!). Churches can reopen to the double-jabbed but are subject to one person per 4sqm and singing is verboten.
Desperate Dan (Andrews) down in Victoria, however, is keen not to be outdone in the Vaxx Passport stakes and he has said that his regime will “lock out” unvaccinated people from the state’s health system, in addition to major sports events, large shops, restaurants, etc. Victoria will be a “vaccinated economy”, he said, “and if you’re not vaccinated, you’re not part of it”. You are “making a mistake” by not getting jabbed, he threatened.
Legal challenges are afoot but what flies in… Read more »
Reading this about the churches in New South Wales I can only hope that (a) there are underground churches that deny all this rubbish and (b) that such churches are thriving. The Christian church in New South Wales does not deserve to survive; it is not that God has abandoned His church; His church has abandoned Him.
Same as the CofE under Welby, and before him Rowan Williams. Are either of them actually Christians, or was the Archbishopric of Canterbury just a lucrative and powerful career choice?
Looking at the comments here today about this item was depressing but not unexpected.
I decided to look at the Bodleian Library website to see whether there were any new restrictions, fully expecting requirements for testing and all the usual twaddle.
Not a bit of it! At the Bodleian it is no longer necessary to book a time slot! Just turn up when you like. They do ‘encourage’ you to wear a face-nappy, but I hope and expect it is mere encouragement. They also ‘encourage’ you to use NHS trap and trace or some pestilential QR code, but I cannot do that as I do not have and do not want a smartphone. I will (I expect) need to take my exemption card (printed on scrap paper) but although I object violently to that I can just about do it.
I do need to book a time for the admissions office to get my Bodleian Library card, which is a bit of a pain since I cannot really guarantee my arrival time, but I can work around that.
So some good news at last, at least for me.
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It is obvious that the government has weaponised Covid from the very start as a means of getting everyone hooked on vaccine passports which they will morph into social credit digital id to control many aspects of our lives, not just health.
It is equally obvious they are doing this for the sake of the undemocratic Davos/WEF/UN “Great Reset”, first proposed on the pretence of tackling climate change and now on the pretence of tackling Covid. Their current obscene push to vaccinate children at negligible risk from the virus confirms this agenda beyond reasonable doubt.
I have confronted our politicians with this accusation in an open letter which starts off on their futile climate change plans and ends strongly on their despicable Covid plans: https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/the-futility-of-net-zero/.
not a pandemic but a plandemic
Gaslighting – it’s part of their “control” operation.
Breaking news:
COVID-19: Extension to use of vaccine passports will be looked at if there is a ‘public health need’, Oliver Dowden says
http://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-extension-to-use-of-vaccine-passports-will-be-looked-at-if-there-is-a-public-health-need-oliver-dowden-says-12403610
I guess that pubs and restaurants will be next on the list! Wouldn’t put anything past these bastards!
Just word salad these days… all these words have lost their meanings:
vaccine, government, rumours, thoughts, plans, passportUpdated information, useful links and resources: https://www.LCAHub.org/
Really useful the LCAHub.👌
in Greece
on arrival the unvaccinated were pulled over to be tested, even though all had presented negative test papers. the vaccinated waved through.
Day 2 those without vaccine passports were refused entry to a bar.
Day 3 evening pouring with rain. the tavernas and restaurant would only let the vaccinated in. The rest were left outside in the rain.
I objected to no avail. The rest of the tourists from all over the world accepted the other ing without a glance or a word.
history has shown that when governments segregate people it has always turned out so well . looks like governments are repeating the same exercise and once again people turn a blind eye. Day 4 today I wonder what new humiliation will be metred out to the disobedient
This is being overtaken by large venues, probably at the insistence of their insurers, asking for proof of a negative test as a condition of admission.
I have just pulled out of a choir event at the Sage Gateshead after being informed, in an email from a member of staff at the Sage, that everyone who is admitted to the Sage has to produce photographic evidence of a negative lateral flow test. This is on top of all the silly draconian rules about masks, hand sanitiser and social distancing and no refreshments available, along with the reassurance that all the music has been assembled in gloves!
This is an event for people who sing in choirs; middle class white people who will be predominantly over 50. Every single one will have been dutifully vaccinated. Anyone would think that the things don’t work!
Most of the people attending will be retired teachers, doctors and other public sector professionals who will love the fact that the Sage is doing so much to ‘keep them safe’. Actually, of course, it is nonsense because the test could have been done by another member of the singer’s family or on the cat. It is just… Read more »
Given that the Grim Gauleiter of Govan has introduced them, it seems highly unlikely that JohnSSon will want to miss the boat.
The only information worth reading in full:
By LCAHub / 9 September 2021
Johnson hates the idea? you’re ‘aving a larf. He loves the idea.
We don’t quite have vaccine passports yet, but check out the Covid requirements at any entertainment venue and we are nearly there already. For example, have a look at the O2 Forum in Kentish Town’s long list of requirements. Talk about sucking the fun out of a night out..
If people refused to attend these venues the game would be up.
This appears to be like that old trick used by abusers to win over their victim again – claim to be a changed person – to have seen the error of their ways – but its cleverly set trap to lure their victim into a false sense of security – the victim wants to believe their abusive partner is sincere and good and never meant them no harm and will accept their promises that they have changed – that they have seen the light – but they have not change – they can never change and so after a brief moment of calm the cycle of abuse begins again.
This is a government that uses psychological abuse to push its agenda – do not believe for a second that they have changed – like every other abuser on the planet they are calculating, conniving and manipulating – their words can never be trusted EVER.
This government must be removed regardless of whether they introduce vaccine passports or not – for them to ever even think about such a devisive idea tells you all you need to know about the mindset of these tyrants.
Nicola Ceausescu is introducing them in three weeks and Kim Jong Johnson is never knowingly less illiberal than that bag of shite.
They won’t be able to blame us unjabbed if we’re not there to spread the disease.
They will say we are the reservoir from which all evil flows.
Not heard anything off that snake Susan michie for a while…
Hopefully the grim reaper has taken her.
What kind of fool listens to this government these days? Even their lies are lies.
We’re now seeing increased infection rates in those who were double vaccinate more than about 4 months ago. Other recent data suggests that the vaccinated-infected are as likely as the unvaccinated to infect others.
Given that this is the case, vaccine passports, which would allow the vaccinated more freedoms, would appear to be counter-productive.
The recent data also suggests that vaccinated healthcare workers are now more likely to infect their patients, and similar for care home workers. To demand vaccinations of them will likely make things worse in healthcare settings.
The vaccinated now carry over 200% more viral load than an unvaxxed which is why wherever these vaxxines are concentrated an outbreak occurs and more mutants appear. It’s a neverending nightmare perpetuated by the worse government we have had in modern times.
https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/31/scientists-fully-vaccinated-carry-251-times-the-covid-viral-load-as-unvaccinated/
The government has waged war on its citizens and it is our duty to RESIST!
I call bullshit on this. Boris Johnson “hates the idea” and Zahawai says “it goes against everything I believe in.” They both know it’s pointless but go ahead with it regardless. They’ve obviously promised a multi millions £££ contract with family members or close friends. I hope every pub, nightclub, theatre and everyone else who they plan to impose this on takes a stand and bans these pricks from their premises forever.
There must have been a giant leap forward in the Governments IT systems and processes in the last 12 months, bearing in mind that the track and trace records were being maintained in an excel spreadsheet. This bunch of shysters will say anything to coerce people to visit the jabbatoir, with only 65% of NHS staff jabbed they’ll need some ba11s to make jabbing mandatory.
I hope every person who visits this site will apply for their medical exemption, my needle phobia is crippling me.
“Boris Johnson hates the idea”.
Why doesn’t Keir Starmer hate this idea, which will discriminate against the poor and ethnic minorities?
I think the answer to the first clause is given by the second!
Sorry, Tobes and co, but I’m too busy laughing my t*ts off at the thought of the i (it doesn’t even merit a capital letter, lol) being some sort of organ of record.
Nah; it most definitely AIN’T worth reading in full.
I don’t believe it. All this “heavy heart….the PM hates the idea…..much soul searching…..hand wringing…..really hate it…..but we must protect the vulnerable….keep people safe…..prevent lockdown…..our hand is forced…..very reluctant….”
…..is all smoke and mirrors, to raise hopes then dash them, and keep people off balance. They know what they are going to do, and have done from the start.
Or to put it another way, it’s complete and utter bollocks!
Off topic, but still on topic.
Last years August and September “deaths” from/of/with/because of Covid19.
Last year: no jabs, Alpha/Kent variant – deaths at rock bottom.
This year: 80.4% of over 16s “fully vaccinated”, less deadly (but more transmissable) Delta/Indian variant – People dropping at roughly 100 a day.
Table and chart below: (source: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths)
Nobody seems to be questioning this; not MPs, and not the MSM (obviously!).
What the actual fuck is going on? Why is no-one up in arms about this?
Chart:
I should clarify: when I say, “Why is no-one up in arms about this?“, I, of course, mean:
Why is no-one calling out these 2021 numbers as the garbage they clearly are?!
Antibody Dependent Enhancement is what’s going on.
To be clear, does that mean these numbers will get worse, and another lockdown in short order? And what unvaccinated control groups do we have? India is close to ten per cent isn’t it? And Romania in reality not much more?
I hope you are wrong, but I don’t think you are.
It may seem cruel but for the good of humanity in the long run I fervently hope you are correct, to the extent that even the MSM and their “experts” have to concede that computer coded gene based therapies are dangerous. But, how many would have to die before these evil bastards would concede they were wrong.