Government Planning an October ‘Firebreak’ if Hospital Admissions Remain at Current Level

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The Government has drawn up plans for an October ‘firebreak’ if hospitalisations continue at their current level and threaten to overload the NHS, a senior Government scientist has said. The odd thing about this statement is that at present hospitalisations are a fraction of what they were at the beginning of the year (see above). The i has more.

The member of the Government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) said the UK is about to enter “an extended peak” of infections and hospitalisations, which are in danger of pushing the NHS beyond breaking point and could force the Government to re-introduce restrictions over the school half term period at the end of next month.

A full lockdown is unlikely and would be a last resort, but there are a range of measures the government could introduce.

“This is essentially the precautionary break that SAGE suggested last year,” said the SAGE source. “It would be sensible to have contingency plans, and if a lockdown is required, to time it so that it has minimal economic and societal impact.”

The Government scientist added that while Covid deaths are significantly higher than at the same point 12 months ago, they would have to rise fivefold to match those experienced in late October last year.

“We are going to be at a peak, albeit an extended peak, quite soon, so it’s not really the same situation as last year, when failure to reduce prevalence would have resulted in collapse of NHS and people dying in car parks,” he added.

“Hospitals might be overflowing before deaths reach the same level. Acting early will prevent this level.”

It is understood that the Government’s contingency plan for a ‘firebreak’ lockdown could lead to an extension of the half-term, from one week for most schools to two weeks from late October into early November.

Worth reading in full.

The fact that the Government is already drawing up plans for a lockdown in October, albeit a mini one, gives the lie to the argument that the reason we should bring in vaccine passports and immunise children is to avoid another lockdown.

Stop Press: Depressingly, the public have already resigned themselves to another bout of school closures. According to the latest Ipsos MORI poll, 45% think it’s likely the Government will close schools again versus 26% who think it’s unlikely.

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Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago

”An extended peak of infections” – isn’t that we used to know as ”the flu season”?

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago

Of course they are. Think about it! The confected (and very expensive) pandemic they’ve put on for us has not achieved anything yet. Life goes on and even deluded jabbed normies believe it’s all coming to an end now. Billionaires and the financial elite did not go to all this trouble and personal risk for nothing. The pandemic needs to do something profound. I.e irrevocably change society forever. So they will keep going until the old economic system is gone and their dystopian slave system is up and running. However, they are failing spectacularly. 50% of Americans, 70% of Australians and 30% of Brits are saying no. You can’t round up 200 million people and send them to the re-education camps you haven’t built! They went for shock and awe but the virus just isn’t scary enough and as they descend into their totalitarian farce, more and more people will leave the cult. Their arrest and prosecution is guaranteed, I’ll get the popcorn!

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Good point Crisisgarden. I would add that I don’t believe the virus is anywhere near as deadly as the perpetrators of this crime needed or intended it to be. Even paid up cult members are capable of looking at their lived experience and wondering “where’s this pandemic?” I’ve seen erstwhile Covidian colleagues lose their faith in recent months. I don’t think they’ll manage to convince the 30% who are saying no. And what they gonna do then? Overt fascist repression is a bad look for benevolent patriarchs, no?

Pavlov Bellwether
Pavlov Bellwether
5 years ago

It might not be the ‘fire break’ they’d hoped for. There’s good news and there’s bad news: the good news is my ‘business cards’ arrived today. The bad news (for the globalists, their lackeys and collaborators) is that there’s a *real* hunger out there for an alternative narrative. The ‘hits’ on my website today have been huge… simply after handing out a few cards to willing (mask-free) pissed off employees and members of the public. Old school meets hi-tech. The truth will always succeed over the lies. FIGHT. BACK. BETTER. https://www.LCAHub.org/

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Newman20
Newman20
5 years ago

More threats from Mein Fuhrer Johnson and his corrupt cabal of cabinet members and unelected self-promoting scientists including Stalin’s nanny and Ferguson, whose predictions are to accuracy what Isis is to Christianity.

imp66
imp66
5 years ago

Since it’s a certainty that hospital admissions will rise as Autumn approaches, then a new lockdown is on the way. Pointless and useless, unless you are enjoying perpetuating Project Fear. I’m off to buy a few jigsaw puzzles while the charity shops are still allowed to open!

morganlefey
morganlefey
5 years ago

In our old system of medicine, the doctor spoke with the patient to inquire about disease symptoms. Then the doctor carried out a physical examination to look for objective signs of illness. Laboratory tests were only occasionally of diagnostic primacy. Well people were not sick.

FrankFisher
FrankFisher
5 years ago

According to the government, media and opposition, no one died or got ill until 2020, and even though more people are dying and getting ill this year, that just proves how well the vaccines are working. Rationality has departed from the UK; there is nothing but hysteria, magical thinking, hatred and plain madness in public discourse today.

crisisgarden
crisisgarden
5 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Perfect conditions for an economic upheaval like the world has never seen. Division, mistrust, anxiety and insecurity. All are needed for the controlled demolition of the existing monetary order.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
5 years ago

I am getting sick and tired of the NHS being allowed to continue as the most unfit organisation in the world in terms of gross incompetence, gross misuse of public money and the most overmanaged organisation in the world probably. Johnson is talking about raisng taxes to give yet more money to the NHS allegedly to clear the backlog. Bullshit. The NHS currently take £200bn a year of public money and they waste most of it on themselves, creating empires of management pyramids and gets really frustrated at having to provide a service to those pesky patients. We have a situation where GPs have not yet returned to seeing patients face-to-face and the Government has now had to force the issue. All the Lockdowns have been to ‘protect the NHS’ from being overwhelmed. Let’s see, the net result of those lockdowns to save a failing institution have been 9m unemployed and counting, hundreds and thousands of business going out of business, the destruction of children’s education, the destruction of the entertainment industry, the destruction of normal socialisation and more. Yet, with all the money they are getting they haven’t even got any contingency plans for this Winter such as opening… Read more »

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo Dominich

send that in an email to the DM or DT – all highly relevant points. Time GPs started seeing patients face to face again or Sarah Harding won’t be the last lady to die of breast cancer or any other cancer in the UK because of the “pandemic” turning the NHS into a covid only service. In fact someone should do a comb through of a lot of the posts under this thread and combine the lot into a letter to send to MSM or blog post or something.

186NO
186NO
5 years ago
Reply to  Jo Dominich

My oh works in the NHS – she tells me that many clinicians/medics describe themselves as “broken” after 21 months of diktat and pressure – the number of key staff actually doing the work who are taking early retirement is not insignificant. So the crisis is not immediately fixable – there needs to be a bonfire of incompetent management, restore control to the senior medics, ban GPs as the holder of funds ( which is creating truly massive schisms between ED/AAE and GP practices refusing to see patients f2f – some professional relationships I reckon are irreparable). I assume you know people in senior posts in the NHS who would not last 24 hours in “similar” positions in the private sector, who then get promoted by a board of ….similar people…to even more senior positions; I have met these people and am still amazed they survive in post. But then , it is the public sector revolving door – screw up one job to be sacked eased out only to reappear in a similar job elsewhere, pension scheme in tact – I remember a certain Labour MP who was held responsible for a “public health” scandal who pontificated sanctimoniously on… Read more »

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
5 years ago
Reply to  186NO

Very good points Milo and 186NO. As soon as I have cleared what I have I will write an article and see how far it gets. You are right though, if any administrator or NHS Manager applied for a job in the private sector or got such a job they wouldn’t last 48hrs. The private sector would not tolerate the gross incompetence.

Hester
Hester
5 years ago

Truly now we see that the entire country is being run for the benefit of the NHS
It doesn’t matter how many major businesses and minor ones are ruined. How many children are denied education and health. As long as the great god of the NHS is worshipped and protected.
I am in Heathrow this morning once the world’s busiest airport. Now more staff than passengers. Its dead.
When as this operation will surely fail thousands will be unemployed. But hey Johnson will have successfully transformed the economy to a low carbon but high poverty. High illness economy. But at least the NHS and the politicians and advisors will be OK.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Not if their heads are on pikes.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

It is pretty amazing that people haven’t cottoned on to this farce – which actually exposes the lack of even relatively short-term contingency planning and a cover-up of long-term government’s massive failure to manage the supply side of health.

Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
5 years ago

The fact that the Government is already drawing up plans for a lockdown in October, albeit a mini one, gives the lie to the argument that the reason we should bring in vaccine passports and immunise children is to avoid another lockdown.

Mini one? Remember the sombrero?

The main reason we are seeing higher deaths “with” covid-19 this summer – is fake-vaccines.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
5 years ago

Also, almost 2 years in and we’re still talking about NHS capacity? You’ve had all this time to increase the capacity so it was fit for purpose you fucking morons. I don’t want to hear more about what sacrifices I need to make when £69 billion on has been spunked on furlough, £200 billion on Trident, £106 billion and counting on HS2. And now you’re quibbling over hospital beds? This would be almost be funny if it wasn’t destroying lives.

Martin Frost
Martin Frost
5 years ago

The NHS is not fit for purpose. I would be more tolerant of this lunacy if lockdowns had any real impact.Do these idiots really believe that it is right and sensible to shut down society every time there is a health scare? How complicated is it to emigrate to Sweden these days?

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  Martin Frost

My money is on Brazil – Bolsonaro wants to stop big tech taking down social media accounts and fact checking etc – plus the beaches in Rio look beautiful

Alkanet
Alkanet
5 years ago

And yet again, disappointingly, DS is passively reporting a possible/likely ‘firebreak’. What is needed are concrete proposals for ordinary people who’ve just had enough on ways to personally oppose this. Forget writing to MPs and demos, the former is a waste of time and the latter has limited impact unless huge and in major cities. Ideas please.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  Alkanet

Yes – ASAP-we are running out of time

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
5 years ago
Reply to  Milo

It’s later than you think.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
5 years ago

How come none of those sheep bleating on about the success of the jab campaign and the latest government propaganda stating that jabs have saved 100000 lives or whatever figure they felt right to pull out of their arse seem to have noticed that from that graph above we seem to be way worse off than this time last year? I know it’s all bollocks but even if you were a Branch Covidian Bullshitter General the fact that we’re moving backwards seems a pretty salient point to me. In all seriousness can anybody point me to any ‘credible’ analysis of this? I would assume it’s the backlog of people who were denied access to healthcare over the past year being hospitalised and popping a + PCR?

Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
5 years ago

This is chilling – despite ‘cases’ being as high as in January, hospitalisations, (seemingly), numbers in intensive care and how long people spend being treated in hospital (turnover), as well as the ‘death (still) with COVID rate is FAR lower than back then.

That Boris ‘prmoised’ that we wouldn’t go back into lockdowns AT ALL, especially when so many (especially in the vulnerable categories) are fully vaccinated, is right up there with Gove’s (and many other ministers’) lies about ‘no plans to introduce vaccine passports’ when they had already PAID two firms to develop systems and PHE/NHS had already started looking at how to roll out it on their app.

It’s one (BIG) lie after the next, and most of the (so-called) ‘experts’ have been pushing these lies just as much as the politicians (of almost all hues).

They are now seeing ‘COVID measures’ fatigue set in within the General Public and are again ratcheting up the draconian rules/laws/measures despite the general situation being nowhere near as ‘bad’ (it wasn’t even back then as regards COVID treatment). The psy-ops routine ramped up…after their own experts admitted it had already gone way too far.

If we get out of this and… Read more »

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
5 years ago
Reply to  Lister of Smeg

I don’t think life is ever going to return to pre-March 2020. But what must not happen is to allow the tyrannical WEF inspired ‘Great Reset’ to take place. The inhumane overlords have been fully exposed now and humanity now has an opportunity to make an even ‘Greater Reset’, less the influence of the Gates and Johnson’s of this world.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago

How?

Zoomer@14
Zoomer@14
5 years ago

Look at who owns the IPSOS Mori polls…Bill Gates. When we people wake up? He even donates to our very own MHRA (our own alleged ‘independent body into the regulation of drugs) Its all a VERY SICK JOKE…wake up and take action now.

Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
5 years ago
Reply to  Zoomer@14

Rather like YouGov and their ‘71%’ figures – can they ever be trusted?

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago
Reply to  Lister of Smeg

You can always trust ‘Honest Nadhim’, my friend.

186NO
186NO
5 years ago
Reply to  Zoomer@14

Spot on; how often has any statement in person or in “the media” by MHRA is predicated with a disclosure of any or all external grants and funding.

Time for a 100% disclosure regime by any UK Govt quango touting it is independent, extending to all GMC/HAC medics and others in management positions…any support for such a petition?

annicx
annicx
5 years ago

So what happened to the ‘irreversible’ roadmap out of lockdown? I don’t think Johnson even knows when he’s lying anymore – it’s just one lie on top of another and no one seems to notice. Most people I know had forgotten about the irreversible roadmap already.

jingleballix
jingleballix
5 years ago

The Government has drawn up plans for an October ‘firebreak’ if hospitalisations continue at their current level and threaten to overload the NHS

TRANSLATION: We want the Coronavirus Act extended.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago

everyone plan a tax “firebreak”

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
5 years ago

Altas Shrugged is going to be playing out soon if this keeps up.

Who is John Galt?

Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
5 years ago

The Welsh firebreak wasn’t a resounding success, was it?

And maybe that’s because, even then (and far more now, as any map of infections shows) the virus, in its Delta form, is everywhere. So we have a wildfire (or more accurately, I suppose, a smouldering heath fire) across the entire country, without any islands of green. It’s what is called an endemic virus.

So where, exactly, do you put your firebreak to contain it?

Marmalade
Marmalade
5 years ago

It is understood that the Government’s contingency plan for a ‘firebreak’ lockdown could lead to an extension of the half-term, from one week for most schools to two weeks from late October into early November.

Ah, 2 weeks! It’s worth remembering ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’ and also that lockdown 3.0 was brought in ‘for at least 6 weeks’ – we all saw how that turned out!

RTSC
RTSC
5 years ago

This is basically an admission that the jabs don’t work.

marebobowl
marebobowl
5 years ago

Yes just keep taking your boosters everybody. The gov’t is planning to eliminate you one way or the other. Time to return to normal. Travelling through Scotland right now. The sheeple are wearing masks, despite the fact they don’t work. Most people I have asked here don’t know a soul with Covid. Time to drop every mandate and return to our lives. How on earth can such an incompetent advisory group make predictions, when they have been so wrong in the past. This further scaremongering is simply to force you to give your kids the koolaid. Sad.

mojo
mojo
5 years ago

The majority of the public knew this was goung to happen and yet they meekly comply. In the same way the majority of the public know something very sinister is happening yet they meekly comply. We have media propaganda and yet those in the media who are able to speak out, choose to sit on the fence, make excuses and hide behind a veil of political correctness. Until some of our journalists actually support people like Neil Oliver and James Delingpole, by acknowledging the truth instead of saving their own reputations the Government will carry on its evil trajectory.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  mojo

I think that an awful lot of people have been so propagandised by the fear porn spewed by every MSM outlet that very very few of them, unless they are coming to sites like this, have any clue that something sinister is going on. They are meekly complying because they genuinely believe that there is a “pandemic” and that “covid is everywhere” and we are “being locked down for our own good” because of a “deadly virus” and that vaccines are the only way out of this and that it is our social responsibility to get jabbed as many times as we are told to because it will make it safer for everyone. I know of only one other person IRL who sees that something very sinister is going on.

Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago

As ever with this hoo-haa we seem to get a policy line they wish to peddle and then they pull out the statistics to justify the policy.
We need to see a much clearer and complete analysis of the NHS hospital data e.g.

  1. of the 7000 people in UK NHS with a +ve covid test who is actually in hospital for Covid19 disease and who is in hospital for something else and then tested +ve
  2. What is the average length of stay for these hospital Covid 19 cases?
  3. Are these Hospital Covid 19 patients on oxygen or ventilation? are they receiving treatments that require them to be in hospital? could they not just go home?
  4. Are people being unnecessarily hospitalised for Covid when they could just stay at home? this maybe happening because of the current poor GP system?

There needs to be an independent and critical analysis of the NHS situation, if we rely on the NHS themselves they will always be overwhelmed and always need more money.

mojo
mojo
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

We need to ask how many NHS frontline staff are actually working. We also need to ask why we are not allowed to film inside hospital wards. We also need to ask how many funerals have taken place. We know that people who have died are automatically recorded as covid cases so we need to talk to the funeral association and the undertakers. Many of whom know very well what is going on.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  mojo

And how many of them died “with a vaccine” [in the way so many died “with covid”]

PatrickF
PatrickF
5 years ago

All planned, and going very smoothly.
Agenda 21 and 30 marches inexorably onwards and we continue to ask, ‘why is this happening?’
The playbook has been written. Read it and understand.

disgruntled246
disgruntled246
5 years ago

Well in a perverse way I should be grateful, as this will put the final damper on my young person considering having the jibber jabber in order to go clubbing, seeing it is becoming apparent there will be no clubbing to go to. Going by the experience of ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’, I wouldn’t put money on us being out of the firebreak before February or so.

Fearless
Fearless
5 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

I like your optimism! My guess is it will last until the start of summer 2022.

disgruntled246
disgruntled246
5 years ago
Reply to  Fearless

Yes I did think I was being a bit Pollyanna there. But so long as they have managed to cancel Christmas again they may be happy.

Fearless
Fearless
5 years ago
Reply to  disgruntled246

They didn’t succeed in cancelling my Christmas last year and they sure ain’t cancelling it for me this year. I intend to carry on living my life free from all evil dictats.

marcusc
marcusc
5 years ago

Who is the sage source ?? Is it that bedwetting cunt Edmunds???

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