Despite warnings from a wide range of health experts against giving children Covid vaccines, including from a member of the Government’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, it seems increasingly likely that Government’s across the U.K. will decide to include children in their vaccine roll-outs in the near future.
On Saturday, Professor Peter Openshaw, a member of the Government’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG) and Professor of Experimental Medicine at Imperial College London, said that the prevalence of Covid variants means “there’s a very strong argument” for the vaccination of children. The MailOnline has more.
He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “A lot of people are sitting on the fence about this but I think on balance I’m coming to the view that vaccination of children – there’s a very strong argument there.”
He said the vaccine was safe for children, while prolonged symptoms of coronavirus meant one in 10 sufferers have not fully recovered.
He added: “Originally with the Wuhan strain it didn’t seem there was very much amplification of the epidemic going on amongst people who were at school in contrast to what we know about influenza, where schools are often the major driver of spread.
“But with these more transmissible variants it is evident that they are being transmitted much more amongst young adults and school children and even younger children and that seems perhaps to be a change in the biological quality of the infection.
“It’s still fortunately not causing very high disease rates amongst those kids but it does strengthen the argument against vaccination.”
He said the Government “absolutely needs to have the discussion” as research proves the “safety and efficacy in terms of generating an antibody response in children”…
Meanwhile, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) last week approved Pfizer’s Covid vaccine for 12 to 15 year-olds.
But no decision has yet been taken on whether to extend the rollout to under-18s once all adults have been offered a jab.
And there are now concerns in the U.S. that the Pfizer jab might have health risks for children that outweigh the benefits, with officials there fearing around 200 cases of heart damage among under-30s could have been linked to the jab.
The MHRA said it has not seen any such cases in the U.K. but the JCVI has advised that young adults or children should not be given the AstraZeneca jab unless it’s the only option because of a small blood clot risk.
The JCVI is expected to tell ministers the move to give jabs to children would be a “political decision”.
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This man will one day face a “people`s” justice i hope.
I would like it to be so, but it seems they will all go free, be rewarded with public office and knighthoods etc and be thanked by the vast majority of the population.
Indeed. Significance-seeking and gong-chasing are clear motivators in this business.
… and, of course, he’s fully signed up to the political agenda in his NERVTAG role.
“He has worked on RSV and influenza since the mid-1980s, leading a large Wellcome Trust funded national collaboration: Mechanisms of Severe Acute Influenza Consortium MOSAIC (2009-12), recruiting cases of severe influenza during the influenza pandemic of 2009-2010.
He has run studies of human experimental infection of volunteers since 2008 and is Director of the MRC-funded HIC-Vac consortium established to promote the use of human experimental infection to accelerate vaccine development. for pathogens of high global impact.”
… ’nuff said.
Human Experimental Infection? Did he study under Mengele?
Not if we have a populist government.
Where will we find one of those?
spot on Wendy, and we get to pay for it.
Imperial College seems to be where all these worms are emerging from. Perhaps the protest should be held there instead of outside Parliament?
I fear that you’re ignoring the fact that the affluent middle classes and academics have been having a very satisfying and relaxing time during lockdown. I bet all the bastards will be working from home….
Don’t make wild and simplistic generalizations. It plays straight into the hands of the Covmaniacs and 77th Brigade.
I wonder how much he was paid to “on balance’ change his mind.
He meant “on (bank) balance”.
Considering the risk he poses to children, there’s a very strong argument in favour of injecting him with Novichok.
Gonna say…a very strong case of euthanasia for him!
Before or after the Novichok?
Not my kids. Try it.
Professor of Experimental Medicine punting experimental medicines. Who would have thought it?
My thinking exactly – he’s got a bit of a vested interested in seeing how this experiment works out…
Professor of Experimental Medicine at Imperial College.
What a title.
Lead high priest in the cult of child sacrifice.
Formerly (in another life) Chief Advisor to the Aztec Emperor on Human Sacrifice and Related Issues.
But but but child sacrifice is cultural appropriation!
I note the word strain now being used instead of variant. Zero covid zealots are winning the argument.
Argument?
I suppose I see it as aa argument between those who want to go for zero covid and others who want to accept we will treat this virus as we treat flu and cold viruses, that is they circulate seasonally with some illness and deaths acceptable. To me the Zeros seem to have the upper hand
I just meant that virtually no debate/argument has been allowed!
We now have a pandemic of mental illness. Like the spike protein that can get into the blood stream and wreck havoc, fear is circulating everywhere and destroying our culture.
Agree on the strain terminology, but every day the resistance slowly grows, they become increasingly desperate and more exposed.
“but it does strengthen the argument against vaccination.”
Interesting phrasing there!
“not causing very high disease rates amongst those kids but it does strengthen the argument against vaccination” – That old Freudian slip!
“He said the vaccine was safe for children, while prolonged symptoms of coronavirus meant one in ten sufferers have not fully recovered“
Demonstrable, flat-out lying.
Yep. Most children would never even know they’d had “covid” if it wasn’t for the fact that they’re being tested to the hilt. An illness that has no symptoms. Genius.
“safe for children” was the more dangerous lie.
This guy tells whoppers.
Even if it were true, there is no logical link between those two statements.
There’s a very strong argument when you work for Imperial College London and your research is financed by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
This is getting darker all the time. I don’t think we as a society can come back from this. If this keeps going the end result will be violent.
Judging by Twitter, I think a lot of people are just going for civil disobedience now, which IMO is the correct route. Just ignore whatever the government says, they can’t arrest everybody.
Got this email from UK Unity just now:
Maybe that was the deliberate intention? Mass non compliance takes the heat off them.
Mass non-compliance to be allowed for a while, and then they send the police in to pick you off one by one later. Remember, the police have been videoing and photographing people at the protests, and they can confirm it was ‘you’ because your mobile phone was also triangulated for that location, and also with the footage from all those cameras you walked past.
It is all being recorded. All your text-messages and phone calls. And kept forever to be pulled out and used against you.
I sometimes wonder what happened to the East German guards who prevented people from leaving the country, and who shot and killed people, and tortured them. Did they ever get punished? Do the people of Germany know who they are today and where they live and what they do?
Perhaps recording as much as you can and making lists might help with a coming ‘reckoning’? Evidence of who did what, when and where. People just do not seem angry enough yet.
And the schools will offer your children a handful of gummy bears to get the jab, telling them that they’re sure your mummy and daddy would like you to protect them. Kids will (and already have been) getting jabbed in schools without parental consent. Find out exactly who is doing the jabbing.
The Batley Grammar School got a bit flustered when the mob turned up for a ‘peaceful’ protest – and that was just for showing a cartoon picture!
Ditch these ‘smart phones’
Exactly. Dumb phone only if you have to have one. Use a separate camera to record. Nothing is infallible but if you want to protect yourself, go a bit old school!
WHO: “An implied consent process…the physical presence of the child or adolescent with or without an accompanying parent at the vaccination session, is considered to imply consent…”
https://www.who.int/immunization/programmes_systems/policies_strategies/consent_note_en.pdf
And there are a lot of people who still believe the UK isn’t a police state!
Wishful thinking.
On the G 7 summit of elbows from Hugo
https://youtu.be/InNC5xxDlCw
Yes, i got that! It also showed an image of our beloved leaders mingling, having a great time, no S/D no masks…whilst the serving plebs are fully masked and distanced. They really are laughing at US!
It gives us a valid and unassailable response to anyone who questions the lack of a mask, etc;
“If world leaders do not need to mask up and social distance then neither do I”
Death. The end result is death.
These guys are Death Eaters, to borrow a phrase.
The BBC did an article on vaccinating children this morning, at no point did they give the statistics on what effect covid has on children (a big fat zero). Instead they came up with the angle that it would prevent further school closures and because of the unvaccinated not allowing the country to reach herd immunity. It was an utter disgrace piece of reporting.
But because they’re a trusted news source people believe their tow the line nonsesense. Why are people so stupid that they can’t see through this, especially as on the same show they were saying vaccinated people have died of covid. Which makes the point what fucking use is the vaccine.
Nobody in their right mind should let it near their children, but you can guarantee people will be queing up. Why can’t they inform themselves instead of listening to dickheads like Peter Openshaw.
My children are not going anywhere near the vaccine.
Well, the BBC is a Government mouthpiece, which is why there have been BBC news blackouts on all the massively attended anti lockdown/mask demos. The BBC is controlled by the Government through the licence fee, and uses Capita to enforce its collection. It’s a criminal offence to avoid paying, and there are more women offenders in prison than any other group. BTW, Capita is still paying its last, retired CEO a full salary.
many of the worlds leading doctors scientists now believe a bioweapon is being released on the world population – but it is not a virus….
the bioweapons being used are gene therapy ‘vaccines’ – stay safe….
I was sceptical, but even if not this one, I can see it happening at some point.
Ask him to sign a liability statement, I bet he won’t.
Slimy bastard.
One in ten had still not recovered.
The ONS said 0.6% have some form of long covid. How the fuck does this clown get 1 in 10. What are we at ? 10-20 children who died of Covid ? 1 % transmission from kids.
This Wanker needs shooting.
Flat-out lying is now absolutely fine, they know they’ll never, ever be pulled up on it.
They define “Long Covid” as “any symptom lasting more than 4 weeks”. So if little Johnny coughs in the fourth week, or tells his mother who has Munchhausen’s By Proxy that he’s fatigued because he doesn’t want to do his homework then he’s a “Long Covid Case”.
Then people think you need to vax children or they will have debilitating sequelae etc. etc. for six months.
I wonder how many kids will die before they stop.
I understand the anger, but we mustn’t join in their game.
Openshaw is a cunt
Apologies, there is no other way of saying that
Well, he would, wouldn’t he?
If we don’t jab kids, then we get a large (and increasing over time) percentage of the population acquiring natural immunity. That makes the roll-out of electronic certification – vaccine passports – much harder.. Jabbing kids has nothing to do with medicine and everything to do with the surveillance state.
Or could it also be mass sterilsiation of the children? What are the long term effects on children?
You answered your own question
Jab with poison the 12 – 15 age group knowing they will die or be sterile and a massive part of the depopulation story is achieved. Those under 12 may well become orphans as their parents die off.
A generation of obedient slaves -SORTED.
Funny you should say this. It seems like it’s already happening local to me. Dreading second jab as 1st took down a few decent men.
My best friend from school ( we’re both in our fifties ) had the second jab a few days ago. Yesterday and Today he’s been having blackouts so bad his wife had to dial 999
(I’ve had no jab and no intention either)
I see the roll out of a social credit system like what they have in China. If you comply with the state you get social credits if you don’t credits are deducted, so if you want to live somewhere nice you have to have the credits, if you want medical treatment you need the credits, if you want to buy a train ticket it’ll depend on your social credit score.
If you want to improve your social credit score you need to comply with the state, if you associate with low social credit people your score will go down etc.
UBI is being trailed in Wales and other countries, so paying people not to bother working but only if you comply.
“It’s still fortunately not causing very high disease rates amongst those kids” On that basis they don’t need any form of medical treatment let alone a “vaccine”. Since when was there a rational argument for treating people that are not ill for a disease they are unlikely to suffer significant effects from even if they catch it.
“He said the vaccine was safe for children”
So – another liar.
NOBODY can claim that for under-tested vaccines. Within normal parameters of what constitutes ‘safe’, it’s obviously bollocks.
He’s not a scientist
I’ve been having some very interesting back-and-forths with scientists on Twitter recently.
The gentleman in my picture was in the Fauci emails, pretty interesting guy.
We were talking about the Russian vaxx and then about adenovirus as the delivery mechanism.
“The purpose is genocide” was the last reply.
Are you saying that the sputnik vaccine was described as a ‘death shot’?
In book 1984, there is a perpetual war between Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia, the superstates that emerged from the global atomic war.
The war is used to keep the ruling classes in power and to suppress the people.
Just as the CDC reports new issues with vaccination in young people they want to double down on this. We have global data showing schools and school age children pose no risk to population or themselves and yet this is happening.
And remember, every jab we stick in a 16 year old who faced more risk getting to the vaccination in an automobile than from Covid cannot be put into a 60 year old with lung issues in India, Egypt, Brasil, or Peru. The ethical vacuum of these people is astounding.
To repeat myself…to use children as a prophylactic is abhorrent.
Let us look how skillful people lie.
He said the vaccine was safe for children, while prolonged symptoms of coronavirus meant one in ten sufferers have not fully recovered.
1) The vaccines are not safe for children. Italy being the latest to ban the AZ vaccine, this time for those under the age of 60 and last time I looked most children are in that category.
2) When he says 1 in ten sufferers have not fully recovered, does he mean children or all sufferers? I think I know the answer.
The size of this conspiracy against the people is massive. We are in a lot of trouble.
Has anybody looked into his funding? (I’m just being lazy)
There’s no point in being energetic, Rick. He’s at Imperial.
Slytherin.
Note Brenda’s birthday honours reported today.
Gong- chasing as an obvious motivation for the Astra-Zenica crap.
Besides all the other points, basic evolutionary microbiology says that mass vaccination with a vaccine that offers little protection from infection is what drives vaccine escape. This is 10x times worse (faster) where the vaccines only target a portion of the virus which happens to be the most mutable part of it.
Through this weird quasi-religious zeal to inject the world they’re putting the vulnerable (including my elderly relatives) once again at significant risk, whilst offering the non-vulnerable (including my children) negligible protection from the virus and possibly even introducing new risks to their health.
It appears that decades of knowledge and wisdom is being deliberately jettisoned . In its wake is pseudo, junk-science; increasingly spouted by people ill equipped to opine on the subject they lecture others on and make life threatening decisions about.
The insane have taken over the assylum.
That would be surprising if it wasn’t utilitarianism in practice. Killing is good here.
This person is evil.
Yes – the darkness keeps spreading: I fear there is no cure.
Be not afraid.
There is an antidote to darkness.
This is the “vaccine” they say is safe for kids and want to pump into our children. Side effects of Pfizer “vaccine” in under 18s reported to VAERS in the US include (among many, many more):
Loss of consciousness (n=409)
Chest pain (219)
Seizure (152)
Head injury (92)
Visual impairment (89)
Eye movement disorder (50)
Blindness (30)
Tinnitus (69)
Deafness (21)
Anaphylactic reaction (26)
Pericarditis (23)
Myocarditis (16)
Cardiac arrest (4)
Guillain-Barré syndrome (6)
Bell’s palsy (9)
Menstrual disorder (19)
Loss of personal independence in daily activities (13)
Death (8) – including 4 suicides
How can they say this is safe ffs?!
Remember too that only a fraction of the incidents are reported to VAERS, and many vaccine injuries take time to present themselves. I also saw some evidence that VAERS reports have been taken down to reduce the death/injury figures though I havent see confirmation of this yet.
They dont want you to know the truth.
The more we find out about this, the more we can see that the whole reason for the fakedemic and these vaccines is genocide.
If Peter McCullough is correct, and the number of deaths caused by the vaccine are ten fold what has been registered, the almost as many have been killed by the vaccine as US soldiers were killed in the entire Vietnam War.
Only this time it is Americans who are killing them.
No vaccines for my children.
This is the hill I will die on.
With you on that hill.
What we have to continually remind ourselves is that most of these scientists and public health figures were anonymous nobodies 18 months ago. Who had ever heard of Professor Peter Openshaw? Or Susan Michie, John Edmonds, Jeremy Farrar, Andrew Hayward, Jonathan Van Tam and the rest of them? None of the wider public had heard of any of them. But now these people have a significance and a power that most elected politicians in our history have never had. Their every pronouncement carries weight. The mainstream media clamour to interview them. Yet they are also protected from accountability – it is the Government who ultimately carry the can, not them. And when it’s over, they will be “rewarded” with knighthoods and MBE’s and places on the boards of many of the main parmaceutical companies. You can see how these people are having the time of their lives. Never have they been so relevant as they are now. Why would they want the “pandemic” to end? As long as they are empowered by the Government and facilitated by the media, these people will never stop seeking to control our lives.
They will also have to look over their shoulders for the remainder of their lives. What parent of a seriously vaccine-injured or killed child is going to just sit on their hands and say “oh well”. I know I wouldn’t (not that I’d let any child of mine be interfered with by these child abusers).
They may be seduced by the power and the appeal to their egos but the really careful players stay in the shadowsand do not want any record of their faces or actions made.
People like Ferguson, Openshaw et al will be thrown inder a bus by the politicians.
Why should a politician get to do it when I want to?
Mikey that’s the top and bottom of it and as a critical behavioural analyst I am seeing a compromised profession loving the increased funding and prestige for their nefarious nudges and dodgy research.
“Professor of Experimental Medicine…” Says it all really.
Posted yesterday, but worth repeating:
“January, Israel became one of the first countries in the world to give the new coronavirus vaccine to young people. At the time, Israel’s Education Ministry said the vaccine was necessary so that students could sit for in-person exams. Schools mandated the shot; kids got it.
So what happened next? This week, we found out. Israeli health officials released a report showing that vaccinated young people, particularly young men, were developing a potentially fatal complication — a heart inflammation called myocarditis — and they were developing it at extremely high rates. Researchers determined that the incidence of myocarditis in vaccinated young men was fully 25 times the usual rate. Some of them died.
In Canada, at least one public health official observed the same thing. Dr. Peter Liu is the chief scientific officer at the University of Ottawa Heart Institute and an expert in myocarditis. Liu began to notice heart inflammation in patients who’d received the vaccine. “It is more than coincidental,” he said.
In Germany, authorities concluded the same thing. The German government just announced that healthy young people should avoid the vaccine. It’s too dangerous. ”
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-young-people-forced-covid-vaccine-may-harm-them
So strange that everyone else can see this problem whilst ‘our’, Greta (sic) Britain, government and medical establishment sail on obliviously.
There are always going to be variants – the government is just using this as an excuse to jab children with its frankenstein experimental vaccine.
What a wonderful idea professor.
Toby, please can you send Mr Openshaw my address so we can discuss this matter up-close and personal in the privacy of my back yard.
“I’m coming to the view that vaccination of children – there’s a very strong argument there”
Hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet, as the prime minister might put it.
Sick fuck
Not “worth reading in full”. Worth opposing in full.
This is proof that there is a conspiratorial element. No sensible government would risk the health of the nation’s children for no benefit to those children and – even in theory – only the weakest, marginal benefit to the rest of the population.
Imperial College, which we know has received huge amounts of Chinese CCP regime funding, is a like a nest of vipers.
Imperial College, MRHA, PHE, NHS senior management – along with numerous other agencies – should all be put under criminal investigation.
I don’t thing Biden has put a big enough dick on the Pig dictator.
Note to Michael Curzon:
The plural of government is governments and it doesn’t require a capital “g”.
COVID is a TREATABLE illness. We will risk the next generation rather than actually treating sick people. Please see Dr Peter McCullough’s interview. It is CHILLING to hear how people have died, just so vaccine profits can soar.https://vimeo.com/553518199
The irreversible end of lockdown is to be ripped up and replaced with another irreversible end of lockdown
He says it with a straight face and the plebs listen with a straight face
The prevalence of complete shite from him means there’s a strong argument for administering laxatives to him.
There are much stronger arguments for autodefenestration
I wonder what his price was to spout this death inducing crap.
There is absolutely NO reason to stuff children with experimental cocktails.
Fortunately his so-called academic qualifications mean he should be well aware of the dangers and outcomes.
If we ever get the bastard in court he has zero defence.
From one of the ‘inventors’ of mrna. Long, occasionally frustrating. Essential. Unambiguous
https://youtu.be/-_NNTVJzqtY
There is certainly a “very strong argument” for Peter Openshaw to undergo an interaction with a guillotine.
Where are the studies showing safety for children?
Aye, didn’t think so
And there is a strong argument for telling this bully to sod off and get a proper job.
He is like so many publicity seeking media scientists; willing to express his views however ill thought-out, without any opposition. To vaccinate children is unethical,immoral and unscientific and many of us have written to express these sentiments and have a much greater clinical experience than our professor Openshaw
I dont care how many qualifications this dude has…he is a dangerous maniac and should instead of giving out such stupid advice, be locked in a padded cell….for our children’s safety !
This is the face of true evil.
Hopefully Mr Openshaw has a good lawyer and lots of cash behind him, because if as a result of his and his friends recommendations even one child is seriously damaged or killed he should accept the fact his actions have consequences and the parents sue him for very cent he owns
Prof Peter Openshaw, head of Genocide operations would have been a more appropriate start to the article
Instead of a suit and tie shouldn’t this individual be wearing a brown or black uniform with a swastika insignia?
The reputation of Imperial College London is completely shot, so why would anyone apart from our useless government be listening to their output. It’s not clear whether the benefit or danger from vaccinating 12-year-olds is greater or what the long term effect of the vaccine might be. My offspring are no longer children and beyond 18 I have recommended they are vaccinated, but it’s their choice and nobody knows what any long term issues might be to any of us. When it comes to younger children, the risk of serious Covid-19 symptoms is very low and the government are risking children’s health in favour of protecting adults. Do we think this morally justified?
Please do some research.
I didn’t need to recommend my ‘kids’ didn’t get vax. They are both scientists having studied genetics and physics at degree level. Neither will be getting it as both have concluded separately that their risk from the vax is higher than their risk from covid, should they , of course, even ever contract covid.
Did you mean to write “I have recommended they are vaccinated”?