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News Round Up

by Jonathan Barr
26 May 2021 2:44 AM

  • “Unnecessary secrecy’: 42 NHS trusts criticised over Covid deaths data” – The Patients Association has accused hospitals of “unnecessary secrecy” for their refusal to disclose how many patients died of Covid having become infected on their wards, the Guardian reports
  • “How did Government officials publish ‘Covid variant guidance’ without the PM knowing?” – The Telegraph tries to work out how the local lockdown communications error could have happened
  • “Nicola Sturgeon drops Covid elimination strategy” – The Scottish First Minister has allowed that if the vaccines have “broken the link” between cases, admissions and death, there is no need for “aggressive” lockdowns, the Telegraph reports
  • “Facebook ‘tried to censor posts about vaccine hesitancy’, internal memos leaked by whistleblowers claim” – Whistleblowers have leaked internal Facebook documents showing the company has been using an algorithm to demote vaccine hesitant content, according to the Daily Mail
  • “Woman, 35, dies from brain blood clot caused by AstraZeneca vaccination” – The Telegraph reports that a woman in her 30s died from a stroke after the AstraZeneca jab caused a blood clot to form in an artery in her brain
  • “Flights to Spain triple in two weeks despite amber Covid warning” – Government warnings about travelling to amber-listed countries and the requirement to isolate for 10 days on return has not put people off going to Spain, according to the Times
  • “Inflation threatens to derail recovery, warns Bank of England chief economist” – Economist Andy Haldane has warned there could be a surge in inflation over the coming months that would force the Bank of England to hike its interest rates or cut the money supply, according to the Telegraph
  • “Why children and COVID-19 is an ethical minefield” – “If my children were still infants or young teenagers today,” says Alison Pearson in the Telegraph, “nothing on God’s Earth would persuade me to allow them to have the Covid vaccine”
  • “Important Letter Regarding Informed Consent” – The Inform Scotland group has written to various regulatory and governmental bodies in Scotland to raise concerns that the principle of informed consent is being ignored in the vaccine roll-out
  • “The rise of vaccine virtue-signalling” – Few things make Portia Berry-Kilby “swipe left faster”, she says in the Spectator, than a reference to vaccination in someone’s dating profile. “Please let us not mistake a vaccine shot for a personality”
  • “Let down by the pro-vaccine sceptics” – “Pro-vaxxer liberalism is also heroically optimistic,” says Paul Collits, “if they think that vaccines and vaccine passports will persuade governments to ease off on lockdowns”
  • “Punishment time for Ivan Dennison (Covid Marshal Grade One)” – The latest instalment of John Ellwood’s tale of the life and times of a Covid Marshal (Grade One) in the Conservative Woman
  • “Is this the future anyone wants?” – The Conservative Woman‘s Kathy Gyngell highlights a video showing a “dystopian future, of monitoring, control and zero freedoms”
  • “A post-Covid boom? Not so fast” – “Pundits are getting a little carried away by the signs of a rapid economic bounce-back,” writes Phil Mullan in Spiked. “But it is too early to draw strong conclusions”
  • “Did lockdowns save 3.1 million lives in Europe?” – Sceptic Nurse scrutinises the paper by Flaxman et al. which claimed that lockdowns averted 3.1 million deaths in Europe
  • “How Lockdowns Helped Hide The Plain Evidence That COVID-19 Isn’t A Good Excuse For Panic” – “What’s obvious to many Americans about the response to the COVID-19 pandemic continues to escape the consciousness of the ruling class,” says Christopher Lloyd Goffos in the Federalist
  • “Papers, Please! Oregon Now Requires Proof of Vaccination” – “Oregon finally ended its ‘outdoor’ mask mandate, a full year and a half into Covid Mania,” Jordan Schachtel reports. “But in exchange for ‘granting’ citizens the freedom to breathe fresh air, they will now be forced to show ‘proof of vaccination’ if they want to participate in society”
  • “Defending The Cancelled Mask Paper; Gain-Of-Lethality Confirmed?; Time We Quit These Updates?” – William Briggs defends Vainshelboim’s cancelled mask paper and wonders if it might be time to bring his Coronavirus updates to an end at number 73
  • “The Wuhan Lab Leak Question: A Disused Chinese Mine Takes Centre Stage” – A feature in the Wall Street Journal on the disused Chinese copper mine which lies at the centre of the lab leak theory
  • “Fauci and NIH admit giving $600K to Wuhan to study how viruses can transmit from bats to humans before COVID-19 outbreak” – Anthony Fauci has defended the United States’s “modest” and “very respectable” funding of the Wuhan laboratory, the Daily Mail reports
  • “Asian deaths will push Covid toll over 2020” – The outbreaks in Asia mean the number of COVID-19 fatalities this year will overtake 2020’s total within the next three weeks, according to the Times
  • “Hanoi closes restaurants, salons as COVID-19 threat mounts” – Hanoi’s chairman Chu Ngoc Anh has announced the closure of hospitality businesses, except for takeaway services and told residents that they must “absolutely stop entertainment activities, physical exercise and large gatherings in parks”, the VNExpress reports
  • “China rejects report of sick staff at Wuhan lab prior to Covid outbreak” – It is “completely untrue” that three researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology became sick in the autumn of 2019, the Chinese foreign minister Zhao Lijian says, according to the Guardian
  • “New Zealand pauses quarantine-free travel with Victoria as COVID-19 cluster grows to nine” – Travellers arriving in New Zealand from Australia over the next 72 hours will have to go into quarantine, ABC reports, though this will be kept under review
  • “The President! What Did he Tell Us?” – A video from the Brave Wilderness YouTube channel in which President Joe Biden and Dr Anthony Fauci extoll the virtues and benefits of vaccinations for everyone over the age of 12. Travel is one of them, although they warn that you’ll still have to wear a mask in transit even if you’ve been vaccinated
  • “If Govt still keeps restrictions in place after June 21st… then restrictions will be with us forever” – Mark Harper MP urges the Government to bring restrictions to an end on June 21st. The minister’s reply was not exactly encouraging

⚠️ If Govt still keeps restrictions in place after 21 June because “there is still a risk of getting the virus and spreading it on” (as a Govt source told @Telegraph today), then restrictions will be with us forever… (1/2) pic.twitter.com/ob6ceBVh8N

— Mark Harper (@Mark_J_Harper) May 25, 2021
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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Eight years or so ago, a slew of reports appeared saying that the Great Barrier Reef was ‘dead”.
At the same time, numerous holiday companies were offering snorkelling trips on the Great Barrier Reef.
It seemed odd at the time.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

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emel
emel
3 years ago

The Great Barrier Reef Hoax, a subset of the Great Climate Change Hoax.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  emel

Add to this Covid Pandemic hoax and the Covid vaccine hoax….. where does it end …..looks like we just might have… a ‘conspiracy’!

Who could possibly have guessed?

So…..we ask…exactly who might gain from all this?

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zebedee
zebedee
3 years ago

I went to the sea life centre in Darwin about 5 years ago. The chap who ran it said the local reef was fine and that the Great Barrier Reef was dying because of agricultural run off.

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Dobba
Dobba
3 years ago
Reply to  zebedee

Yep – it’s not climate change. It’s pollution that’s the problem. But it’s easier to point the finger at people and say we’re responsible rather than at companies and corporations that dump their toxic shit all over the place. A classic ‘look over there’.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Read Dr Moore’s book ”Fake Invisible Catastrophes” – that’ll explain it to you.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago

Please don’t interrupt Australia when it is in the process of destroying itself.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

The downvote is the stupidest way to express yourself on the internet. What exactly are you against? You think Australia should be interrupted? Or Australia isn’t destroying itself? Or you just don’t like anything loopy? Grow a pair, come out from hiding behind the couch, and if you’ve got a point, make it. Or carry on being a bit of a dick, your choice.

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

The downvote exists for when someone says something stupid but not interesting enough to bother to engage with. It lets them know you think the comment is daft without you having to waste time with engaging with someone who isn’t worth engaging with.

I don’t disagree with what you said in your original comment, and I didn’t downvote it. Just letting you know what the downvote is for.

I did downvote your response to yourself though. Never respond to yourself.

Last edited 3 years ago by artfelix
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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

And never respond to someone who responds to themselves. And further, never respond to someone who responds to themselves, who responds to themselves. 🙂

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Jane G
Jane G
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

FWIW I usually enjoy loopDloop’s posts. I sense tongue-in-cheek in their remarks.
In it’s present mood, Australia will probably depth-charge the GBR for un-Australian conduct in either dying or thriving – depending on whether it suits ‘The Science’. Whatever happens, it will lead to a slew of heart-attacks and strokes among the people.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Destruction for the sake of destruction is not a virtue.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Yeah but without global warming the reefs would have been cooler.

Save our tuna.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

They need to change their tuna.

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

They need to stop carping on about global warming

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

They’re skate-ing on thin ice.

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Mike Oxlong
Mike Oxlong
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

They’re selling their soles over this. I’ve haddock nuff now.

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Libertarianist
Libertarianist
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike Oxlong

I’ve always thought that AGW was a load of Pollocks anyway.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Carp are fresh water fish – they should be more worried about phosphate poisoning .

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago

So the question used to be, how do they get away with such blatant lies?

Now, post-Covid propaganda blitz, we understand many people only use mainstream sources of information, and often just skim headlines at that.

We have all seen the technique in action; bold headline e.g. Children may be at risk of death from Variant X, then on the second last paragraph of the article it states some resemblance of fact e.g. scientists conclude that few children will be exposed to Variant X, the study had a tiny sample size, this is probably not an issue etc.

Do we just let it run its course? In time the world will not burn, we won’t all die of thirst because of global warming etc.

I am at a loss as to how to counter this. Most people I know are far from being eco fanatics, but do accept the basic premise of anthropogenic climate change. Much like they didn’t question the Covid narrative.

I do despair at times as counter information is so easy to find.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Not much we can do. When seated in a circus, try to laugh at the juggling trapeze elephants.

Truth is also a matter of will. We can make info and arguments available, but can’t make them see sense unless they want truth and ‘activate’ it.

Eventually cumulative effects add up and they absorb passively: claiming they always knew we were right.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Yes, you are correct. The efforts is in waiting for people to catch up, and being able to stomach the notion they knew all along. Like the tens of millions of people who were secretly part of the French Resistance all through the war.

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Mumbo Jumbo
Mumbo Jumbo
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

You forgot Russia to invade Ukraine on Wednesday.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

Not before I’ve watched Countdown, I hope.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

I think it is Russia’s false flag event scheduled for Wednesday. So now the west can actually lob a rocket at Russia and the media will lap it up as Putin’s false flag. It is so pathetically transparent. The Russians seem far more skillful than our reprogrammed military commanders so hopefully the west will be outplayed, again. That is if course under the assumption that both sides aren’t being choreographed by the same powers.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

This is a good example. The lies from Western countries are blatant to the extent Russian commentators are pointing out the falsehoods as well as priming the world for the false flag events to come. They even ridicule Western audiences as unable to see through quite poorly constructed lies from their own news agencies.

Depressing in many respects.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

It used to be necessary for education to include some prescribed features, like the three Rs. Beyond that, and even in LA/state education, pupils were then encouraged to read, experiment and so forth, to develop their ideas and understanding. This encouraged critical and independent thought; by no means ubiquitous, but more prevalent than now.

This is no longer so, and the thoughts and perceptions of many are just the regurgitated propaganda from the few (the “influencers”), which is now spoon-fed by way of “educators”, social media, Big Tech, Big Pharma, government advertising, the MSM and other parties. It’s very much a case of “can’t see the wood for the trees”.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

I agree. But those techniques also need a receptive audience. I do believe the underlying issue is comfort. Life is pretty good. We have not had any major threat to our existence in recent times.

I’m not suggesting we subject people to constant existential threats of course. But that these things are self correcting. An entire generation is emerging into adulthood seemingly unable to cope, and expecting Big Gov to solve every problem they encounter which it cannot do.

Perhaps that will trigger a collapse and a period of reflection.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

You make good points. The encroachment of the State upon the individual has been insidious, and rapid. I have always thought that any decent relationship (employer and employee, government and citizen, marriage/partnerships etc.) has to be a two-way street, with respect, rights and obligations on both sides, but in some balance or equilibrium.

When that balance is “out of kilter”, then the relationship almost always begins to degrade, with one party acquiring power or influence over the other. Sometimes this change is voluntary, but I think mainly not. Of course, the most recent example is the behaviour of the populace and government during Covid. It then becomes moot, as to if or how the relationship can be brought back into balance; always assuming that it should be, which I believe is essential .

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

Indeed, there is a reason a preoccupation for rules emerged so early in the UK, especially England. Our seminal early episode being Magna Carta. We have this within us, even if the younger generation seem indifferent to free speech and seem riled by “hate speech” and the like. It lurks there in the background acting as some kind of counterbalance.

My own concern is the effect of mass immigration on this. We are importing people with absolutely no traditions of freedom or preoccupation with keeping the State in check, and no analogs to Magna Carta, Habeas Corpus and the Bill of Rights from 1689. The young may be indifferent but that could just be youth. But what to make of those who’ve had authoritarianism hammered into their genome over centuries and millenia?

Much of the recent push for things like the Hate Crime Bill in Scotland, for example, are very much shrouded in discussions about ethnicity, culture and the tensions caused by mass immigration. The solution to these inevitable tensions is for us to change to accommodate them.

I have some faith in equilibrium being the end state; a generation can initially be lax about freedom, but soon learns why the Barons put King John under the cosh. They learn through experience why that matters. But I have more concerns about those hostile to freedom itself, many of whom we are importing.

No doubt my little blast of white superemacy will get a few downvotes 🤩

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Libertarianist
Libertarianist
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Good points.
The problem is MASS immigration. But pointing that out leads to accusations of being against immigration per se.
Just as being against COVID-19 vaccination leads to being called an antivaxer.
A standard attack that is difficult to explain to the average normie.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Libertarianist

I am against immigration per se. In a country with millions unemployed there is an extremely limited number we need. I’d like to see more people make this case; why have immigration at all? We are not a teeny country of a few millions.

I am happy to ignore that restriction for some sectors, the most obvious being academia; I’d be happy for them to attract whatever talent they need.

But mass immigration for us means the world’s poor. The miasma of racism that surrounds these discussions prevents any normal discussion about the practical realities e.g. how exactly does the UK benefit from importing someone with an IQ under 85 who will have five kids? Throw in the emerging prospect of foreigners who seem to be raising kids to hate white Europeans and all we are doing is setting the stage for conflict further down the line.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I couldn’t agree more.

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TheEngineer
TheEngineer
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Indeed if only those classed as “workers” had been allowed in with time-limited work permits then much of the mess could have been avoided. No property purchase rights could have prevented the growth of the various ghettos around our country.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Libertarianist

the reason behind the problems of mass immigration is that all below average wage immigrants harm the wider economy.
but…
They lower wages and increase rents and the people who control the government benefit from that as they pick up the effective subsidies the harmful migrants benefit from (at taxpayer expense).

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

I get the economic effects of low-wage immigrants. But the demographic timebomb is the element they are desperate for people not to discuss. There are certain cultural groups we are importing in substantial numbers, now in their fourth generation, who still speak foreign languages to their children at home (naming no names of course). These groups cannot be said to be assimilating, which was the counterargument made in the 1950s when concerns were raised; any objection to immigration was racist because their kids would be British etc. That’s what concerns me. The low wages are just speeding the descent of our own poor.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Correct – see Soros’ “Open Society” objectives and of course the infamous Coudenhove Kalergi plan.

We are experiencing the planned “Untergang des Abendlands” predicted by Oswald Spengler back in the early 1920s

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I absolutely agree. I used to keep it to myself. But we need to lose the fear of being labelled as imperialist dogs just because we like our own homeland 😛

And don’t get me started on Soros, lol.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

No downticks from me

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Libertarianist
Libertarianist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

Thanks for this. I think it’s really perceptive to link these different issues by the common element of the health of their relationship. Vital information.

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Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I wish it would hurry up and collapse so the free can start building the new world.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

I agree to this extent. It’s the comfortable in any society who seem to delight in worrying about climate change. The ones for whom life isn’t pretty good are too busy managing as best they can with the world as it is – they have real, daily problems on their plate.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

If they follow Truss’s geography, they’ll never find Ukraine anyway.

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Mumbo Jumbo
Mumbo Jumbo
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

My son’s girlfriend, a Russian passport holder, was unimpressed to find out that the city she lives in (Rostov-on-Don) is not part of Russia. She was scathing about Truss.

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PartyTime
PartyTime
3 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

There’s a long but interesting article here: https://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-washington-has-lost-its-mind-over-ukraine-200513 suggesting that the proposed “invasion” of Ukraine is an invention of the West (even Ukraine’s President says so), that the Russians would have the manpower for an invasion but not for the subsequent occupation, and it wouldn’t be popular with the Russian people, although it would be popular with residents of the Donbas. When the alleged “invasion” doesn’t take place, Biden can take the credit for it.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

When I have pointed people towards alternative sources of information, they don’t want to know, or label it “conspiracy theories”.

One even said ” how do we know that they are telling the truth?”.

Yeah, like the BBC never lies, you mean?

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

I have had the same experience. You point them towards a scientist on Substack, for example. Someone with a calm, rational take on things, using ONS stats etc. But they don’t want to know.

We all make the mistake of thinking most people are pretty much like ourselves. Yes they can be deceived, but we assume the deception is an external force, propaganda imposed by some nefarious group of which they are unaware. While this is true to an extent, it is difficult to fully grasp how receptive most people are to obvious faslehoods. That is the bit I find hard. Like you I have friends and family members who reject any rational challenge to a narrative they clearly want to embrace, presumably for emotional reasons.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Most people on the planet (90%+) don’t understand science which is why the green blob embraced propaganda instead. Everyone gets propaganda.

It’s also why they politicised the subject. Politics is the only area of authority that doesn’t require any qualifications. Everyone is allowed a political opinion no matter how extreme.

The winds of political dissent are now beginning to gently whistle through the corridors of politics as the reality of renewable energy begins to bite.

That’s where change will come and politicians never want to be the fall guy for anything. They are already backing away from the loony fringe and finding a source of blame, Nut Nut’s in the UK, Biden (obviously) in the US. Even the monster raving loony greens in Germany are beginning to face reality and shuffling sideways now.

You’ll also notice that Boris has not so subtly introduced nuclear as a topic for discussion and renewables now have competition as the EU has announces gas and nuclear are now green fuels.

The language is also subtly changing, the ‘environment’ is replacing ‘green’. Green politics has nothing to do with saving the planet, but the majority of the grass munching public just won’t notice the difference.

Steve Baker, Ian Duncan Smith and David Davis have come out the closet and written columns in the Telegraph openly criticising Boris’ approach to NetZero. That’s a big deal as politicians don’t break cover without considerable support.

Covid was also instructive with, I believe, getting on for 30% of the adult population unvaccinated. And whilst much of the country walked around like extra’s from the Living Dead movies, many more people did, and are, waking up to our government’s rank stupidity over every major subject it meddles in.

The talk now from Boris’ new appointee is that our incumbent government will be rolling back its interference in the public’s lives. What does that mean?

In addition, global temperatures aren’t doing quite what the green blob wants them to. As of February 2022 satellite readings show there has been no warming for seven years and that temperatures are now lower than in the late 80’s.

And what’s the green blob doing about all this? After 50 years of blaming CO2 as the single most important contributor to global warming, they are now trying to drag Methane into the conversation. Arguably a more potent greenhouse gas, but an even smaller fraction of the atmosphere than CO2.

Pathetic.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

You make some great points. Very rational too.

The recent challenges to the NetZero obsession you mentioned do mimic the same turnaround on Covid. You are right in that the secret to understanding politicians behaviour is not to superimpose statesmanlike motives, but to understand everything they do is for effect. That is maddening when intelligent MPs embrace obvious nonsense like reducing meat consumption to save the planet. But it also provides a mechanism to bring it to a halt. They’ll respond equally swiftly when the winds change and we all become pro-meat etc.

It is easy to forget that aspect. Those who believe in nothing, and back any winning horse, will back your winning horse too.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

I must be part of the 90% that doesn’t understand science although by today’s educational standards I am probably at under graduate level. However, I am here on DS and despite my non-logical brain I worked out over thirty years ago that global warming was bollox. I also worked out within six weeks at most that C1984 was a scam.

How did I manage these intellectual feats? 😉 No idea really, perhaps it is simply that I am an awkward bugger and don’t like being told what to think, so if I don’t agree I find evidence to back me up.

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Mass Formation psychology seems to reveal something. Not saying that hypothesis is actual. Just that it explains a lot, when there is no sense in observed behaviours.

These kind of ‘formations’ go through cycles in social organisation over the ages. They are born, grow strong, then weaken and eventually die. We happen to be maybe near the peak of growth today.

Given these repeat cycles appear to be driven by the outer development of people on the whole(scientific religiosity, militant materialism, god shaped hole etc), if one wants to ‘act’, then how about a focus on the inner development.

For one can change oneself for the better, in the morning. This is a certainty we can all change, with the will.

Imagine if a majority of people were to make an attempt at it. How high might we then climb?

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  harrystillgood

I am not sure about mass formation either, although the more generic term mass hysteria perhaps works just as well.

But we should also remember whole chunks of society have not bought into it. I’ve noted near me those least likely to wear masks in supermarkets and cafes are working class men. I often see tradesmen working nearby nipping in to Tesco’s to buy lunch. Not a mask in sight. (The most hilarious episode being two guys who looked like plasterers walking in to a supermarket maskless, in their splattered work clothes, with professional respirators round their neck; these are more effective than paper masks, but they were for work use of course)

We perhaps overstate the influence of the bedwetting chattering classes. The fearful types with just enough to lose in life to make them hesitate and toe the line. I strongly suspect much of the background murmur of white supremacy, extremism and the very obvious attempts to link it with football supporters is the awareness of the social engineers there is a whole strata of society that is indifferent to their machinations. They are not horrible transphobic racists, they are simply ignoring the signals. I do think the Western societies that will survive the tender mercies of the WEF are those who look after the great unwashed, not those who pander to the laptop class.

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xpatriot
xpatriot
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Partly this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

If global warming is caused by humans then there is a problem with the number of humans on the planet and our numbers need to be reduced. What the planet needs is some sort of pandemic to reduce the number of CO2 producing humans. Oh wait a minute didn’t we have a pandemic and the worlds population went up by 80 million. Looks like the planet is screwed then.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The planet is screwed. Or rather, we are. The planet will recover after we’ve gone, and produce new life forms, hopefully less toxic than we are.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Oh please. The planet is fine. Never been better. It is fairly big too, which helps.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Examples of how the planet is screwed please.

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giantspider
giantspider
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

IPCC WHO UN UNESCO Government ….

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  giantspider

The IPCC is remarkably benign about the fate of the planet.

All the bodies you cite are bureaucratic organisations, not physical planetary phenomenons which is what was being discussed.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Invariably I tend to agree with you Annie but to suggest the planet is “screwed” is nonsense.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

“Nothing to see here. Move along while we just ‘revise’ the earlier temperatures down to fit in with our false narrative”.

This is what’s happening to all early temperature records, and even more recent ones, as this graphic from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (which is part of NASA) shows.

GISS is affiliated with the Gates-funded Columbia University Earth Institute. The institute is located at Columbia University, which was home to the Frankfurt School of cultural Marxism – so it has a long history of animosity towards Whites and has consistently worked to undermine and ultimately destroy their societies.

Faked temps.png
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stevie119
stevie119
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

“Hide the decline….” Google it.

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Bill314
Bill314
3 years ago

I get emails every week from http://www.consciousplanet.org. It’s a big worldwide movement that’s currently starting up. They reckon that soil quality and farming practices are the primary issue. Rising CO2 levels are only a symptom.

Last edited 3 years ago by Bill314
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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Bill314

Their scientific foundation for this is?

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Bill314
Bill314
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

I don’t know. Ask them.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Bill314

You promoted it but don’t know anything about it?

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Bill314

Regenerative farming could absorb a lot of CO2, if that’s what we want to stabilise the planet’s average temperature at around 15 degC … which is where it stood in the mid 20th.C.

We don’t wish to precipitate a new ice age though, as I said in an earlier comment. That would really ruin our day.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Bill314

Anthropomorphising inanimate objects without agency is always a sign of nonsense IMHO
The planet is not conscious.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Neither it seems are most of the people on it!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I cannot disagree.

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Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
3 years ago

Anthropomorphic climate change…brought too you by “Limits to Growth” from the Rockefeller Club of Rome, you know, the same people who brought you big pharma as an offshoot of the oil industry! So it’s absolutely a crock of shit….

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago

If I never read another of those ‘Great Barrier Reef faces extinction due to [insert horror de jour here]’ headlines in my lifetime, I’ll die with a slightly better opinion of my fellow human beings.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

I wonder if anyone had added up all the claims of “X% of the Great Barrier Reef died this year”.

We must be knocking on 1000% by now, surely.

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Vaxtastic
Vaxtastic
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

There is a website that tracks every single prediction made by the climate alarmist groups, and annotates it with updates. It is a litany of excitable nonsense. It is however satisfying seeing quotes from prominent people from as far back as 1990 saying things like “there will be no ice caps by 2010”, or “young children today (1995) in the UK will never see snow”.

There are many examples of this. The fact that it cuts no ice (lol) with the media is the best proof of their collusion. Even a junior trainee journalist could produce an article listing a handful of key predictions similar to today’s pronouncements and compare now to then.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

Where would I find that site? It sound like a good read.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Caption Competition

‘Spot the mint humbugs’

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

The only way to save the reef is first isolate it and then vaccinate it

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Static temperatures are proof of both global warming and climate change, according to the doomsday cult.

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John001
John001
3 years ago

Summary:

COVID is a scam, like H1N1 swine flu 2009, just better covered up/censored.

Climate change is much more complicated. Read James Kunstler’s book in 2005 ‘The Long Emergency’. He covers it quite well. (He has a good regular blog.)

The Daily Sceptic should concentrate on the scam it knows, rather than spreading its efforts too thinly. We have to fight and defeat the bastards who are trying to install medical dictatorship first of all.

On climate change, it’s possible that 250 years of fossil fuel burning prevented the next ice age, which was due about now. We don’t seem to know for sure. I do remember a magazine front cover from 1975 about ‘the next ice age’.

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giantspider
giantspider
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Is that why the south pole has just recorded its coldest 6-month period since records began?

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  giantspider

Oh I read something about that sort of thing.
It’s because climate change means we have extremes happening. Like, you know, as the globe warms some places (like the South Pole) will be/get extremely cold. And some places will have lots of rain and others none.
It’s really amazing and very scary.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

We could all play the game of guessing how many times they will have written the term “climate change” on the script for various tangentially linked programmes by the usual suspects, many of which had a good reputation in the past!

It’s worth noting that, notwithstanding any real variation in the natural system compared with our behaviour, we live in an ‘interesting’ part of the world for meteorological volatility. Relatively minor variations to the jet stream have a major effect on things like rainfall, wind speed and so on in any given area. Each season tends to vary a lot from year to year (and it has been like that for half a century or more).

The other side of the coin is, where would we be if no coal was burned over the last 250 years? Not here, for sure. Many of us would not exist at all.

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unmaskthetruth
unmaskthetruth
3 years ago

Is this the same as the Great Pacific Garbage Patch which no-one can find either (except with photos taken after a tsunami!)

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

Off subject

The regime in Wales has been handed the money for the cost of living poll tax rebate by The Treasury

Instead of passing the rebate on to home owners the regime will divert the money to subsidise low wages in the care sector

Every care worker will receive a £1,000 bonus from the regime at a cost of £96m

I can understand the regimes thinking. Why give the money to home owners who are unlikely to vote Labour when you can give it to care workers who will/may give you their vote in return

As with most people who couldn’t run a whelk stall the communists have not worked out that 30% of that money will go straight back to the Treasury in the form of income tax and national insurance payments

The regime seem also not to realise that they are in fact subsidising the ‘capitalist scum’ that run most of the care industry in Wales. Why increase staff wages if the regime will do it for you?

Oh the deep joy of socialism

(I make no party political point……a curse on all their houses)

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

More “Climate Emergency” lies exposed then? I thought all the coral were supposed to be dead by now?

The conspiratorial use of a climate “catastrophe” ( all our fault so we must be punished ) as one of the tools to ‘justify’ to the gullible ( especially the weaponised children) the imposition of Fascist Global Government by Corporates, Billionaires and Bankers seems to get clearer by the day.

What an “Inconvenient Truth” this must be for Al Gore, who has dined out in style on his ‘Climate Change Horror Show “for two decades!

No doubt Zuckerberg will “fact check” this into a Social Media black hole and Gates will buy up even more land for his Mealy Worm farms.

(“What’s to stop the billionaires from ‘poisoning’ the coral anyway to even-up their ‘truth’? After all as their Marxist allies say: “The end justifies the means”, doesn’t it ?)

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago

I am confused by the Peter Ridd chart. He doesn’t give a link to his data and it doesn’t seem to tie up with AIMS own report.

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Effingham Hall
Effingham Hall
3 years ago

A bit off-topic but I notice they have almost convinced the poor that they should eat insects instead of meat, and will use the climate to increase airfares so they cannot travel, reserving the nicer bits of the world.

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TheEngineer
TheEngineer
3 years ago

Any evidence showing up the global warming nonsense for what it is should be welcomed. Real pollution is a different matter.

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Iain McCausland
Iain McCausland
3 years ago

Fallen Icon by Susan Crockford is worth reading about the great Walrus deception by ‘national treasure’ Sir David Attenborough.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

More people need to read Dr Patrick Moore’s ”Fake Invisible Catastrophes And Threats Of Doom”. Lots of information there, from someone who knows his stuff.

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