It’s “Almost Certain” That Vaccine Passports Will Be Required for Large Events, Says Senior Whitehall Figure

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Government insiders say it is “almost certain” that vaccine passports will be required in domestic settings, such as for events of more than 1,000 people, and that fears over the Indian Covid variant and a “third wave” of infections could be used to justify the use of passes being extended later this year. Such an extension could see pubs and restaurants requiring vaccine passports, despite this having supposedly been “ruled out“. The Financial Times has the story.

Under the plans, proof of vaccine certification, stored on the NHS app, may be used for events of more than 1,000 people once the U.K. enters the next and final stage of its road map out of lockdown on June 21st, when premises such as nightclubs are set to be reopened.

There has been some uncertainty over whether a domestic vaccine passport scheme would be adopted in England, with some arguing they would prove exclusionary to the young and minority groups. Others have questioned whether they have a clear public health value.

Those in favour of the proposal note that the pass will allow proof of a recent negative Covid test or prior infection from the virus as alternatives to vaccination, preventing discrimination. 

Legislation of some form is believed to be needed to allow a mandated domestic passport scheme to be brought in, and any such legislative move would have to be voted on in parliament.

The Government will soon move into the second phase of its evaluation of large events and the role of digital certification at a total of up to 10 events before June 21st – possibly including Royal Ascot on June 15th. For those unvaccinated, a rigorous testing regime will be required.

An individual briefed on the plans said phase two trials would include events with greater capacity to find “cracks in the system” and ensure “we are fully ready for the summer”. Some of the trials will include venues operating at full capacity.

A formal announcement on phase two of the trials is expected next week, which will include a mixture of events such as sports and music. One Government insider said: “The phase two trials will be bigger and better. We want to get crowds back safely in higher numbers.”

One senior Whitehall figure said: “The first phase of the trials has gone very well and it’s almost certain that vaccine certification will be required for large events.” The official added that passports for pubs and restaurants “have been ruled out”. 

Another Whitehall figure said that although no final decision had been taken, “our focus has been on big events and higher capacity venues”.

… One Government insider involved with the scheme hinted that use of passports may be widened if the U.K. suffers from a third coronavirus wave later this year. “It may be that certification has a role to play in other venues to stop closures in the autumn or winter if there’s a big surge.”

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Hopeless
Hopeless
5 years ago

I despair of some of the people who are supposedly campaigning for data confidentiality etc.

This Saturday morning, I’ve been watching the Patrick Christys show on talkRadio, where Phil Booth of Medconfidential was asked about the Covid Status Certificate add-on section of the NHS app and these controversial fields, that appeared in the NHS Privacy Notice one day, and disappeared the next.

Christys started from the point of thinking that this whole thing was part of the NHS Track & Trace app, was corrected by Booth to it being part of the NHS App, and then on from there.

I will need to listen again to the section of the programme when it is available, but Mr. Booth’s rather confused and anodyne explanation was that it was some sort of mistake, “nothing to see here or worry about folks” and so forth. The general feeling was that people had got completely the wrong end of the stick, and it’s all just some sort of panicky rumour.

At no point was there any explanation or killer questioning of why these data fields were listed in the original Privacy Notice for the Covid Status Certificate add-on to the NHS App (not the… Read more »

Health Seeker
Health Seeker
5 years ago

What happens if a venue refuses to participate in the scheme?

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
5 years ago

Strange how they never specify who said it, innit?

chaos
chaos
5 years ago

America is pretty much free already.. has been for weeks.. forever for a couple of states..

Prime Ministers Carrie and Stanley and their dog Bojo are going to look awfully silly doing the great reset when nobody else is.

Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
5 years ago

NHS Test & Trace App updated to a Chinese Style Social Credit System
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCiC1oqbQMA

realarthurdent
realarthurdent
5 years ago

“It’s “Almost Certain” That Vaccine Passports Will Be Required for Large Events, Says Senior Whitehall Figure”
I hope the end result of this will be that “Large Events” will become “Small Events” and the organisers of these events put pressure on government to scrap the passports.

Teamsaint
Teamsaint
5 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I’m emailing the chief execs of any large venues I go to such as the Festival Hall to tell them that I won’t be attending if I have to show a vaxport. A bit of pressure might help them persuade the govt on the matter.

Tinxx
Tinxx
5 years ago

There are elements in our society who see the opportunity to create a social credit based system as highly beneficial. One necessary step is to digitise everyone’s identity and the organisation of a central digital register is key to this process. The vaccination programme has provided this opportunity as now everyone is mapped against a “key” public number – their NHS number – from which all other individual data points can be mapped: phone number D:O:B – social media account details, health status, DNA, tax details, digitial photo from your passport etc. Over the last year or so, this infrastructure has been deliberately constructed under cover of Track and Trace. This has allowed the concept and development of a “vaccine passport” to be introduced to the general public on the grounds of public health benefit and/or personal freedom but in reality they could simply call it what it is – a digital identity card. Make no mistake, they would be open about it if they thought that they could get away with doing so but for now at least, they are “nudging” us in this direction under the cover of being a public good. Whether we like it or not,… Read more »

sophie123
sophie123
5 years ago
Reply to  Tinxx

I am inclined to agree. I’m not even sure they will mandate the vaccine as it’s not necessary and they don’t care really if we have the vaccine or not. What they want is to tag us all. And then for them personally, profit from our data.

They can get the data anyway by registering those without vAccines as vaccine exempt (like the mask or something)

PJ1
PJ1
5 years ago

The great and the good of society seem to be totally confused, or even in complete denial, as to what men and women are; so why the hell would I trust them when they tell me how safe a vaccine is for this deadly disease supposedly ripping through society and yet not killing or even hospitalising anybody I actually know? I just don’t have any faith in these people any more.

Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
5 years ago

This is communist balderdash and needs to be shoved up the arse of Kim Jong Johnson.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

The number of political illiterates around is amazing. The use of ‘communist’ as a catch-all for ‘anything I don’t like’ is a commonplace confirmation of the level of dimness seen in Covid responses.

NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
5 years ago

We urgently need a coordinated, national movement to oppose the vaccine passport.
It’s another plank of the reset to steal our liberty, power and money.
Ideas?

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

It needs to be more than a political movement, it has to be counter-cultural and social by nature if it’s to succeed against this. People who are sceptical need a network they can turn to for help and support that is face to face and galvanises bonds. Only from that firm foundation can the cause grow.

Attempts seem to have been made, e.g. the Freedom Network, but I’ve yet to have much luck finding a concrete grouping of like minded individuals. These things always seem uncoordinated to me.

Clancloch
Clancloch
5 years ago

And I’m afraid to say that anyone who voted for Brexit, an incredible foolishness, is indirectly responsible for the the most incompetent, corrupt and dangerous government these islands have ever had. Brexit proved how easily people were swayed by utter fabrications in the MSM, the garbage spouted for years and years by the tabloids and the, same nonsense that worked then has been repositioned for Covid propoganda ramped up more and more.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

What has Brexit got to do with this? Have you seen what’s going on in Europe lately!? Or the rest of the world for that matter!?

Clancloch
Clancloch
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Actually the rest of Europe seems rather more resistant to getting jabbed than here, but this is a gov elected largely by Brexit voters. That was what their manifesto was.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

Europe has far more stringent vaccine legislation than here. Germany is a de facto police state. France is just behaving true to type in terms of public reactionary scepticism. The Labour Party is more covidinsane than the Tories. Again, what has this to do with the EU or Brexit?

Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

Oh, get to fuck.

gina
gina
5 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

Oh – I’m afraid too – of the same old bollocks – everyone who voted for brexit was thick and ignorant and didn’t know what they were doing.
Happens when discussing the matter with friends who were pro remain, it transpired I was better informed and had actually thought out the whys and wherefores for myself whereas they largely had an emotional attachment to the idea – brotherhood of men, open travel kinda thing etc.
pretty much like lockdown skeptics have done…

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
5 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

Fuck off

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

Well – sauce for the goose etc. I’m often complaining about hobby-horse riding here, and the need to keep focus. Yes – Brexit may have been a massive waste of time and space – a total irrelevance perpetrated by the same suspects, but this isn’t the place to get into a diversionary argument about it. Stick to the knitting.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I am thinking now that brexit was just the excuse for the power grab – so that those in power now would be in position for the time when this whole shebang was ready to kick off. worked a treat didn’t it?

dante
dante
5 years ago
Reply to  Clancloch

Are you actually serious!!!! Please educate yourself, as mentioned by Noumenon, Germany is full on Stazi compared to the UK. I must assume you are an SNP voter.. Bets on…

Old Trout
Old Trout
5 years ago
Reply to  dante

Please keep Brexit out of this folks. By insulting people who have different views on you to Brexit, you are behaving like the covidians spouting ire at anti-vaxxers. Surely it doesn’t matter a jot now what our views were on Brexit or on which party we voted for. It is as irrelevant as our hair colour or sexual preferance. If we can’t unite on this issue we may as well just give up.

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago

As predicted.
Only an imbecile would still believe them and that this is really about public health.

QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
5 years ago

The first time I heard the term ‘vaccine passport’ was when I heard somebody from the government saying “we have no plans to introduce vaccine passports”.

chris c
chris c
5 years ago

And at that point we knew they were coming

John
John
5 years ago

This is my “vaccine status” it only shows which vaccine, when and batch number.

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John
John
5 years ago

This is a screenshot of one page in my NHS app record. I haven’t shared any of the information with DHSC.

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MadJock1
MadJock1
5 years ago
Reply to  John

What the hell is your “identity level” ??????

Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  MadJock1

Probably has to do with whether you can make up your mind whether you’re make, female, or something in between.

Tillysmum
Tillysmum
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Ha, Ha, Ha.

unmaskthetruth
unmaskthetruth
5 years ago

I’m a very good boy so I am not worried at all about a digital social credit score. It’s just the evil people that don’t want this brilliant import from China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXyzpMDtpSE

I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
5 years ago

Remember when the government refused to enforce face masks back in 2020 because there was no evidence that face masks worked but then high street businesses complained that they were afraid that customers were being put off from shopping at their stores because of fear of catching covid and then the government ordered face masks to be worn in all stores hoping to encourage people back into the shops again. Well once covid passports are implemented for large events, restaurants, pubs etc it won’t be long too before the big high street stores will be lobbying government to have vaccination passports apply to them too.

This is very slippery slope indeed.

HoMojo
HoMojo
5 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Then hopefully people won’t go and they’ll all go broke, as they deserve to do. I’m going nowhere that demands one.

A Heretic
A Heretic
5 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

a great theory but all the sheep have been happily donning their religious icons for the past year which means the shops have no incentive to stop.

Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
5 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

It will be everywhere. It was always going to be.

I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
5 years ago

Bob is spot on as always …

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Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Bashir thrown to the dogs

Hilarious

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

How long has she been dead ffs and he didn’t off her.

I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
5 years ago

No covid passports in Texas …

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

They are also going to be mailing out handy little cards as well. Actual passports for the circle of trust.

“NHSX – COVID-19 Vaccination Certification Programme” – A Department of Health and Social Care contract for the printing and mailing of COVID-19 vaccination paper documentation worth £21 million. Are they planning something, perchance? https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/Notice/4c791cbe-66f5-4ad1-9b75-d2fa93ddebe9

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago

This will be because so many have said they don’t have access to a smart phone for the app etc.

The caring jailers have kindly thought of everything.

Just show your ‘papers’ and your gullible status in order to engage in anything social, however limited…

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

It’s so blindingly obvious that this is a power and money grab.

Tillysmum
Tillysmum
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

That may be so, but this has been methodically planned for so long and it’s moving so quickly and still people can’t see the wood for the trees.

BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
5 years ago

People were warned. Over and over again. But of course those that could see were just dismissed as ‘conspiracy theorists’…

The virus was developed to further the vaccine/digital ID agenda.

To do nothing is now no longer an option. Either resist and say NO, or you can kiss your liberal existence goodbye.

And of course there will be a ‘third wave’ later this year, you can set your watch by the seasonal flu cycles.

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago

It’s not simply that you can kiss your liberal existence goodbye, it’s that you can kiss your existence goodbye per se.

ShropshireLass
ShropshireLass
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Especially if they cut off your access to water, electric, food and your finances as punishment for being resistant to the controls and compliance measures.

HoMojo
HoMojo
5 years ago

Usual bulshit and speculation. Why the hell waste time on quoting ‘a Whitehall source.’ if there’s no attribution it could be the toilet cleaner. All you’ve got to do is say no and that’s that. Trouble is there’s too many people who are not prepared to stand on principle because they ‘want to go on holiday, go to the football, go to that concert.’ Freedom costs and if you’re not prepared to pay the price then you deserve to lose your liberty. And if it comes to it that you can’t buy food without having a passport then I say without reservation: it’s you shits who didn’t say no in the first place. I’m not having one and I’ll starve first. Pity the younger generation don’t have a sense of history. Fourth Reich here we come.

Teamsaint
Teamsaint
5 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

I’m not having one, it would hurt not going to hear music or football, but its a price worth paying.

ShropshireLass
ShropshireLass
5 years ago
Reply to  Teamsaint

Just one tiny hurdle to which I haven’t found a solution yet – what if they cut off your utilities – water, electric, gas as well as food shops if you refuse to join their new smart technology controlled system and refuse the experimental gene based interventions?

Teamsaint
Teamsaint
5 years ago
Reply to  ShropshireLass

God knows. Actually I don’t think they are competent enough to make this system work, but not a risk we want to take.

LMS2
LMS2
5 years ago

FLORIDA!!

No vaccine passports. No masks. No lockdowns. No restrictions. No hospitals overwhelmed with CV19 patients.

This is just the government bringing in a form of social control that they’ve been planning to do all along and told barefaced lies that they weren’t.

I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
5 years ago

What this government is proposing is no different to this sign that openly discriminated against certain sections of society in the past …

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
5 years ago

2-Tier Britain here we come.

I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
5 years ago
Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

They just don’t get it

I cancelled my subscription in March 2020

I am no longer part of THEIR society

I am no longer a citizen of THEIR country

THEIR laws are not my laws

I don’t want THEIR passports

I have no desire to use THEIR airports

I do not wish to enter THEIR pubs, restaurants, or cinemas

I do not wish to attend THEIR football matches and pop concerts

I do not listen to THEIR propaganda

I no longer wish to be in the company of THEIR people

I am not THEIRS but I am free

Like The Spectator they keep sending me once in a lifetime offers if I take a out a new subscription

PLEASE UNDERSTAND I WILL NOT BE SUBSCRIBING NOW OR EVER

HoMojo
HoMojo
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I’m with you., United we stand.

I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
5 years ago

Vaccine passports would breach discrimination laws, equalities and human rights.

MadJock1
MadJock1
5 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

And you think the government or the courts they control give a shit?

HoMojo
HoMojo
5 years ago
Reply to  MadJock1

We have to make them give a shit, that’s the point. You’re not powerless if you unite but divided we fall. Simple. And I’m quite happy to take the first bullet since I’m getting on in years and (staggering I know for people of my age) looking back on the 1970s with affection for that ‘carefree’ time. Because, despite all the chaos, your liberty was not in question.

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

I agree, but it’s hard to come up with a country where the lawyers have been as useless and the courts less busy than the UK.

MadJock1
MadJock1
5 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

I also have fond memories of the 70’s and agree with you. But I’m not so optimistic that we really can do anything. We can forger any so called democratic route which leaves protest or outright civil disobedience. Protest is being ignored. Thousands (probably hundreds of thousands) have marched and been totally ignored. As for civil disobedience I doubt many have the appetite in reality. Sorry to sound defeatist but I’m close to giving up all hope. The only thing I can see that would have any effect is something similar to when the fuel protests happened years back znd it brought the country to a standstill. But with near total control over the media even that probably wouldn’t get reported – although the effects might be such that it was impossible to ignore. The fuel protests did have some effect at the time so perhaps a blockade type campaign is what is needed – a technique favoured by the French.

ShropshireLass
ShropshireLass
5 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

And employment law (variation of contract requires consent) and arguably Health and Safety at Work Act (duty of care to yourself as well as to others) and employer has a duty of care to you so risk assessments need to consider the potential harms of an experimental unlicensed novel drug and lack of medium and long term safety data.

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