The Government’s “roadmap” out of lockdown could be sped up because of the success of Britain’s vaccine rollout, according to a member of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Modelling (SPI-M) group. The Mail has the story.
Britain’s roadmap out of lockdown could be sped up because the coronavirus vaccines are working so well, according to one of the Government scientists – despite doomsday modelling by SAGE suggesting lifting restrictions could trigger a surge in deaths.
Dr Mike Tildesley, from the University of Warwick team that correctly predicted the UK’s second wave, said he was “really pleasantly surprised” that reopening schools did not cause a spike in infections.
The infectious disease modeller, who is also a member of the SPI-M group whose calculations feed into SAGE, told LBC Radio: “If these numbers keep going down over the next few weeks there certainly is an argument to say ‘well actually, we’re doing really well with the road map, it could be sped up’.”
This week, some of the modelling in documents released by SAGE suggested that lifting curbs fully in June could lead to more than a thousand deaths a day this summer and push the NHS to the brink again.
Dr Tildesley conceded “there may well be” a surge of cases across the country but probably not as high as some of the gloomy forecasts have predicted. The Government was this week accused of using “Project Fear” tactics to prolong coronavirus restrictions by stealth after releasing the tranche of SAGE papers.
The expert group included modelling from three different universities – Imperial College London, the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) and Dr Tildesley’s team at Warwick University.
After reviewing all three papers, SAGE said social distancing, mask-wearing and Covid vaccine passports will need to remain in place for at least another year to keep the virus in check even when the most brutal curbs are lifted.
It added that while the vaccines prevent the vast majority of people from falling ill and dying from coronavirus, they “are not good enough” to see all curbs lifted “without a big epidemic”.
In March, the Government decided not to ease lockdown restrictions before Easter because of a warning from SAGE that this could lead to 55,000 more deaths. Professor Tim Spector, an epidemiologist at King’s College London, has criticised the Government’s scientific advisors for basing their forecasts on the most pessimistic assumptions.
They seem to be picking the most pessimistic of the assumptions each time in order to come up with the worst case scenario, perhaps to avoid complacency.
They might want to warn people that if we just relax our guard this is what could happen, that’s why a lot of language is written like that.
I’m certainly not arguing we should totally relax right now but I think the vaccine is doing better than they are saying… and they are just painting a much bleaker scenario than the reality.
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That’ll be one of the new vaccines that are working so well that the WHO has just said that vaccination passport are pointless “because we are not certain at this stage that the vaccine prevents transmission”.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2BT158
That’s an interesting REUTERS post Schrödinger’s cat…
“WHO does not back vaccination passports for now…” that mixed in with the article below, in NYC where the vaxx-AI-digi-tech… the roll-outs been chaotic, TG!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/new-yorks-vaccine-passport-program-already-failing
And thankfully too in some USA states, it’s at Governor Level been declared no-go already, lest we forget Yanks are very touchy-feely with life, love and liberty backed by AR15s.
The global masses 99%, I believe a lot are now finally waking-up to what’s really going down WEF style and with the current Astra vaxx blood-clot debacle – as predicted by some non-corrupted medics – we may be very lucky that GloboCap has shot its bolt a tad too early on the AI tracking passports… with their it’s all for the greater good narrative, going black swan wrong.
The key take in the Reuters piece (above) is the FOR NOW statement.
This is a war folks, simply as that. We can expect the ‘enemy’ to lose a battle or two, as we libertarians have been doing to date, with Masks, Social Distancing, Lockdowns, destruction of old normal ways of life, culture and business etc., etc.
What’s key is to keep this winning pressure momentum of WAKING the Covidian Cult members up, though this needs to be done with wit, care and flare.
This is done by continuing to plant seeds of doubt information, (links/likes/shares) word of mouth, chat groups and pointing out quality differing points of view to the MSM BUILD BACK BETTER propaganda narratives.
Hold fast, I’m starting to think we are creating a break in their RESET process, and if we can break the current pace, we have a real chance to kill off a lot achieved by their puppet acolytes so far.
Keep the faith…
Your up eat style is uplifting! Yes, push, shove, keep the faith, and down will come the whole rotten, putrid edifice.
This will go on forever. Children are being educated to wear masks, antisocially distance, not hug grandparents etc. They are being taught to follow the rules and if you don’t you are a bad person and people will die. They will know nothing else different and it’ll be normal.
I agree, its conditioning the younger generation to not ask questions, not to think for themselves and to follow orders. A horrific future awaits them.
I’m being conditioned to hate Boris Johnson.
He’s like the AZ vaccine for the under 50’s – a seriously unpleasant side effect for almost no discernible benefit
The younger generation have been conditioned for the last twenty years to accept and not ask questions through our education system. Who knew when Blair said “education, education, education” what he really meant was ‘control, control, control’!
Blair’s glib phrase, when translated from devious politician’s bullshit into English, is the much more comprehensible “send them all to ‘university’ to reduce youth unemployment figures” and let’s not mention the crap degrees some poor saps will get with zero chance of a worthwile job and make them pay for the privilege too”
Our friendly communist behavioural psychologist on SAGE has actually stated children need to wear masks to help normalise adults wearing them
“friendly communist behavioural psychologist”, was there ever a more massive contradiction of terms? How the hell do you allow an individual who stands for everything opposed to democracy to even belong to such a group?
Your last sentence sounds like “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” !!! All going down the same road…
It is the best way to push agendas. The ‘conditioning’ and ‘grooming’ of children has been the established way of all dictatorship for millenia.
People here are mostly fairly sensible but there are others. A mother with two small boys saw them climb onto a seat, immediately sprayed them both and the seat with sanitiser, and said
“Don’t run, and don’t touch nothing!”
The council(?) put fluorescent red plastic panels each side of the footbridge, presumably so people couldn’t touch the handrail. They didn’t think it through, people can touch the top of the panels so they need to put more panels inside the current panels. Oh wait . . .
Its when I hear the so-called experts talking about keeping the virus in check that reinforces my view they don’t know what the are talking about or they are being paid to lie.
Perhaps the best thing to do would be to find out if they are funded by Bill Gates, that will give us a clue.
people are usually motivated by one or more of three things … 1) money (and the power that money gives you) 2) pure power (see government dictates that have no scientific foundation) 3) simple fame (and the associated power that comes with that, see Fauci ) …
the dark side of human nature is the desire to control other people … most folks don’t revel in it or exercise it simply because they don’t have the opportunity (i.e. they are not a politician) …one reason Dictators end up killing folks wholesale is because their attempts to control people with less severe means end up starting to fail and the folks they can’t control via taxes, or rules or laws or whatever … need to be eliminated so they can maintain control over everyone else (can’t have examples of rule breakers just walking around you know)
I grew up in the age of Dr Strangelove, when the outcome of warped scientific/political thinking was a satire on mass insanity.
50 years later, the satire has become real, even if physical nuclear weapons are not involved.
I am. Aren’t you, LS admins? Bueller?
Should “May” perhaps be “March” in “In May, the Government decided not to ease lockdown restrictions before Easter”? It’s at the start of the paragraph after the first block quote from the linked article in the Daily Mail.
But won’t there always be covid deaths from now on in the winter just as there are influenza and pneumonia deaths every winter. Or are the government and advisors dead set to eliminate all covid deaths? Have they forgotten that pneumonia was once spoken about as old mans friend – letting the frail and elderly slip into death?
Most people with half an active brain cell on duty, already know this. The government and it’s not-so-SAGE members seem to be “oblivious” to this.
I think they’re going for zero death for everyone. Something to do with carbon emissions……
Have they found the secret of eternal life then?
whenever a “scientist” uses the words “may” or “could” in a statement they are no longer doing science but offering hunches … which in the world of science usually means “THEY HAVE NO IDEA” … Opience at it finest … my definition: opinions or hunches given out by “scientists” who think they are giving you “the science” when in fact they are not …
Tildesley is at best inconsistent and at worst disingenuous. His modelling group err on the side of pessimism and panic and he is the main spokesperson . Maybe now that it’s all over bar the mixing, he is positioning himself as a challenger so he can get on more media outlets. The new study from UCL shows that we will be at herd immunity on Monday. The ridiculously off target Imperial model should be ceremonially decommissioned like the Nightingale hospitals or subjected to a national slow handclap.
I seem to recall that Bill Gates announced some months ago that the Lockdowns would have to go on to Summer 2022 – quite wonderful how that man knows everything,
I love the “perhaps” Spector uses here. He fully understands why Imperial, Warwick etc come up with the same assumptions in their modelling and continually push fear.
I see reports that Pfizer has told shareholders it is about to raise its prices.
We need Project Fear to be thrown into reverse (I don’t have a snappy name for it yet). Otherwise even if the restrictions are cancelled, people will still be hiding in their caves come the Autumn.