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Boris Panics and U-Turns – Again! Lockdown 2.0 “To Be Announced Monday”

“I’ve created a Monster!”: Bob’s Halloween cartoon for the Telegraph

It was reported late last night that The Prime Minister has met with ministers and aides and will announce a new national lockdown on Monday. The Telegraph has more.

Boris Johnson is expected to announce a new national lockdown next week after scientists warned COVID-19 was spreading faster than their worst predictions.

The Prime Minister spent Friday in crisis meetings with ministers and aides after being told deaths were tracking above the “worst case scenario” that suggested 85,000 in the second wave.

Mr Johnson is understood to have been persuaded that a national lockdown is the only way to save Christmas, and will spend the weekend contemplating exactly how severe it should be.

Senior government sources stressed that no final decision had been made and the measure would need to be put to the Cabinet before any announcement to the nation.

Mr Johnson is likely to summon ministers from his Cabinet coronavirus subcommittee over the next 48 hours and could hold a full meeting on Sunday if he decides he needs to act as soon as Monday. The alternative to a national lockdown would be a fourth tier of restrictions on top of the existing three tier system, but Government scientists now believe even Tier 3 is not enough to stop the spread of infections.

During the parliamentary rebellion last month the Government promised Parliament would vote on any new national lockdown measures “where possible”. Will the PM honour that? If he doesn’t, his party management problems, already considerable, will only get worse.

And what’s all this nonsense about Boris being persuaded that a second national lockdown is needed as it’s the only way to “save Christmas”? What good will it be to people who’ve been thrown on to the dole queue – or seen the businesses they’ve built up over decades go under – to sit around with their extended families on Christmas Day and pull a few crackers? Is Boris really so feeble-minded that SAGE scientists were able to persuade him to shut down the country, with catastrophic consequences for the economy, mental health and people suffering from any illness other than COVID-19, because doing so would “save Christmas”? Is he really such a sentimental buffoon?

The doom-mongering warnings come from a SAGE document dated October 14th but which appeared yesterday. It shows October is exceeding the modellers’ “reasonable worst case scenario”. Which is odd, given that daily cases haven’t exceeded the “projection” set out in the Graph of Doom. Was the Graph of Doom an unreasonable worst case scenario?

And let’s not forget that SAGE’s “reasonable worst-case scenario”, as set out by SPI-M-O in July, gets its 85,000 death total by assuming an IFR of 0.7%, more than double the latest WHO estimates. Nor should we forget that the WHO says lockdowns should only be considered as a “last resort“.

James Gallagher at the BBC has more on SAGE’s flawed reasoning.

A “reasonable worst-case scenario” is used by officials and the NHS to plan for the months ahead. It had estimated 85,000 deaths from Covid over the course of winter. But an official Sage document, dated October 14th  and published today, reveals we are in a worse position than expected.

Scientists crunching the numbers estimated that, by mid-October, there were between 43,000 and 74,000 people being infected with coronavirus every day in England. Their report said: “This is significantly above the profile of the reasonable worst-case scenario, where the number of daily infections in England remained between 12,000-13,000 throughout October.”

Gallagher, who appears to take SAGE’s line on this, acknowledges that “cases” are levelling off in the North East, but fails to mention this was happening before new restrictions were introduced. He notes that R has been falling nationally for the last two weeks, but is quick to point out it is still above one, so a big problem.

The current estimate of the R number in the UK – the number of people each infected person passes the virus on to on average – is between 1.1 and 1.3. This is lower than last week’s estimate of 1.2 to 1.4, and lower than the estimate of 1.3-1.5 two weeks ago. It suggests that restrictions and changes in people’s behaviour is having an impact. But anything above an R of 1.0 means cases are still growing.

He assumes, without evidence, that it is Government restrictions which reduce R: “The national R is not below one and there will be a constant argument for tighter restrictions, in whatever form, until it is.”

Then comes the most discreditable part: an absurd attempt to vindicate Sir Patrick Vallance’s Graph of Doom.

It comes as figures from the Office for National Statistics suggested an earlier warning on Covid case numbers, issued by the Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, has turned out to be accurate.

Speaking alongside chief medical adviser, Prof Chris Whitty, at Downing Street in September, Sir Patrick said the UK could see 50,000 new coronavirus cases a day by mid-October.

The ONS estimated that there were about 52,000 new infections each day in homes in England alone in the week ending October 23rd.

Gallagher surely knows (and if he doesn’t then he should) that Vallance was referring to reported “cases” – the daily tally of positive tests from Government testing programmes, which reached only around 16,000 by October 13th, less than one third of the projected amount. He was not referring to the weekly ONS estimates of infections. Gallagher sneakily switching to the higher figure to supposedly vindicate the prediction reeks of fudging the numbers to save the reputation of the failed prophet.

The BBC also pull one of their notoriously biased “fact checks” on hotel owner and leading Recovery campaigner Sir Rocco Forte. It’s feeble, obviously. It attempts to “disprove” Forte’s correct claim that flu and pneumonia deaths are currently running above Covid deaths by quoting the ONS death statistics for the whole year rather than just the last few months. And to counter his correct claim that modellers wrongly predicted 500,000 UK Covid deaths without lockdown, it quotes a Dr Deepti Gurdasani, epidemiologist at Queen Mary University of London, saying the Imperial model is “widely accepted as an estimate of the likely death toll from unmitigated spread due to coronavirus, if no action was taken to control it. The Government didn’t overreact, but rather underreacted. Evidence suggests that waiting on lockdown in March cost tens of thousands of lives.” I must have missed the part where Dr Gurdasani was endowed with supreme knowledge, so whenever other experts such as Professor Sunetra Gupta disagree with her it is always them who are wrong.

However, in the process of spewing forth this guff, the BBC accidentally let through a diamond of a graph that reveals how the 2020 Covid death toll is below the flu and pneumonia death tolls of the eight years between 1993 and 2000. The introduction of the flu vaccine in 2000 is credited with sharply reducing winter deaths – arguably why there are now many more elderly people vulnerable to coronavirus – though that wouldn’t explain why the figures for 1990-1992 were also much lower.

Chart showing flu/pneumonia deaths and Covid-19 deaths compared

So is the Government really saying that an annual death toll that’s lower than the annual death toll between 1993 and 2000 is too high to let life continue even with the present restrictions in place? The Government is convinced the only reason the death toll wasn’t much worse was because of the lockdown – a view amply refuted by Sweden, South Dakota, Tanzania, Belarus, and so on, and by the fact that infections were falling in England in March before lockdown. But the belief will not budge and is impervious to evidence.

Stop Press: Scientists at King’s College have revealed that figures from their survey show a much less alarming picture, one in line with what we’ve been saying at Lockdown Sceptics. The Telegraph has the details.

COVID-19 rates are not surging, researchers at King’s College have said after results from its symptom tracker app showed a far less deadly virus trajectory than Imperial College findings.

Earlier in the week, Imperial released interim data from its React-1 study which showed there are now nearly 100,000 new coronavirus cases a day in England, with nearly one million people infected. The Imperial team said rates were doubling every nine days and it was a critical time for lowering the ‘R’ rate. 

However, King’s College – which has been monitoring the symptoms and test results of millions of people through its app – said it was not seeing such alarming numbers. The app found 43,569 daily new symptomatic cases on average, and calculated that doubling was happening every 28 days.

Tim Spector, professor of genetic epidemiology at King’s College, said: “While cases are still rising across the UK, we want to reassure people that cases have not spiralled out of control, as has been recently reported from other surveys. We are still seeing a steady rise nationally, doubling every four weeks – with the possible exception of Scotland, which may be showing signs of a slowdown.

“With a million people reporting weekly, we have the largest national survey and our estimates are in line with the Office for National Statistics (ONS) survey. We can’t rely simply on confirmed cases or daily deaths without putting them into context. Hospital admissions are rising as expected, but deaths are still average for the season.”

This survey is the largest of the Government’s surveys and chimes with the ONS data and daily testing data. The Government should be heeding Professor Spector (watch him here) and his team. But instead they appear yet again only to have ears for the doom-mongers at Imperial and on SAGE.

Three Facts SAGE Has Got Wrong

Graph putting the death toll of COVID-19 in context

Lockdown Sceptics contributor Dr Mike Yeadon has written a terrific piece in the Daily Mail today in which he reiterates the points he made on this site a couple of weeks ago. Readers will recall that the three things SAGE has got wrong are: that only 7% of the population have been infected by the virus, that 93% of the population is susceptible and that the IFR is 1%.

After running through these arguments, Mike then pleads with the Government to put the death toll from COVID-19 into context and to listen to some scientists outside the SAGE cabal.

It is also worth contextualising the UK death toll.

Ministers and some parts of the media present the pandemic as the biggest public health emergency in decades, when in fact mortality in 2020 so far ranks eighth out of the last 27 years.

The death rate at present is also normal for the time of year – the number of respiratory deaths is actually low for late October.

In other words, not only is the virus less dangerous than we are being led to believe, with almost three quarters of the population at no risk of infection, we’re actually very close to achieving herd immunity.

Which is why I am convinced this so-called second wave of rising infections and, sadly, deaths will fizzle out without overwhelming the NHS.

On that basis, the nation should immediately be allowed to resume normal life – at the very least we should be avoiding a second national lockdown at all costs.

I believe that Sage has been appallingly negligent and its incompetence has cost the lives of thousands of people from avoidable, non-coronavirus causes while simultaneously decimating our economy and today I implore ministers to start listening to a broader scientific view.

Worth reading in full.

Lord Sumption, Condensed

Roger Wright-Morris from Briefings for Freedom has neatly condensed Lord Sumption’s fiery lecture on Tuesday into a few hundred words. Perfect for those who prefer their constitutional theory bitesize.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, especially when fear is created as people crave security so the state creates more fear and obtains greater control. Yet Parliament is not ready and willing to act and to stand for its high callings, rather it seems to have abrogated its responsibilities.

Fear is a potent instrument of the state. It promotes intolerant conformism and abuse. Fear was deliberately stoked up by the state and by selective use of statistics and modellers: these were not accidental matters but part of a strategy whose errors and failures assisted in success. Boris is sustained in power by appealing to the irrational and emotional in collective wisdom.

Boris is in power only with the consent of Parliament on behalf of the People, which he side-lines and avoids, thus diverging from our constitutional past, and acts unlawfully whilst instructing the police to do likewise and with political discrimination in their actions.

Appropriate powers were available in the Civil Contingency Act 2004 and the Coronavirus Act 2020 but were ignored as Parliament had powers of oversight.

Boris unlawfully used Part 2a of the Public Health and Disease Act 1984, as amended 2008. Such actions required Parliamentary scrutiny and approval which Boris wanted to avoid. Boris’s actions are totalitarian as they did not get Parliament’s approval. (See Lord Hoffman in House of Lords Ex Parte Simms 2000.)

Government by decree is not just constitutionally objectionable but bad government creating a delusion that authoritarian government gets things done. There is no detailed knowledge, no strategy, no wider thought, no research, no understanding of the all-round implications for the economy or health of the nation. The ministers act on the hoof, promote loyalty against wisdom, flattery against objective advice. These absences promote unfounded self-confidence, banish moderation and restraint. All these are vices seen in this Government.

The British Public must wake from its failures to understand how these matters are an assault on social interaction eroding the glue of social wellbeing of a once united country and engage actively in politics, join political parties, and connect with MPs.

Insurance Company: Being a Covid Contact Isn’t a Medical Condition

We know the compliance levels with test and trace and self-isolation are abysmal, as people have better things to do than sit around their house for 14 days because they recently had a chat with Linda down the road. But it turns out insurance companies are not helping matters. A reader received a letter from Nationwide about her travel insurance and it included this in the new T&Cs:

You’ll be covered unless you’re cancelling your trip because either you, a travelling companion or the person you’re planning to stay with during your trip has been advised to quarantine/self-isolate (either abroad or in the UK), and it’s not for medical reasons. For example, if you’re contacted by NHS Test and Trace but don’t have symptoms of or haven’t been diagnosed with COVID-19.

If even insurance companies have twigged that without symptoms or diagnosis it’s not a case and isn’t a medical matter, why is the Health Secretary still struggling to figure it out?

Is This Proof That Masks Are Useless?

Yinon Weiss in the Federalist has put together 12 graphs that show beyond any reasonable doubt that masks do not do anything to stop the spread of SARS-CoV-2. The UK one is above. The rest are here. Here’s what he says.

Masks have become a political tool and a talisman. When COVID-19 hit, governments panicked and created enormous fear. The Centers for Disease Control currently estimates a COVID-19 survival rate of 99.99 percent for people younger than 50, but the damage created by the panic was too great to undo.

It is likely that some politicians eventually realized their mistake and needed a way to back-pedal without admitting their lockdowns were a policy disaster. Their solution was for people to put any old piece of cloth across their face and magically believe that it’s okay to go out shopping again.

Masks are not merely a small inconvenience. They have inadvertently become a key impediment to returning to a more normal life, a desirable goal for those seeking to twist the pandemic for political and electoral purposes.

Masks dehumanize us, and ironically serve as a constant reminder that we should be afraid. People can now be spotted wearing masks while camping by themselves in the woods or on a solo sailing trip. They have become a cruel device on young children everywhere, kindergarten students covered by masks and isolated by Plexiglas, struggling to understand the social expressions of their peers. Face coverings are causing real harm to the American psyche, provide little to no medical benefit, and distract us from more important health policy issues.

Worth reading in full.

A Top NHS Doctor Writes…

Witless and Unbalanced wearing their reusable cloth face coverings – about as useless as their advice during this crisis

Toby’s friend, the top NHS Doctor, has sent us an email setting out the 10 things he doesn’t understand about the Government’s response to the pandemic. Only 10?

The excellent Dr John Lee writing in the Daily Telegraph has outlined his 10 reasons why Britain’s response to the Covid crisis is utterly mad – and they are all bang on the money. For some time I have felt that the response to the known facts made no rational sense, and that I must be missing a vital piece of information or insight which could explain everything… I have failed to find it – so here are 10 things I don’t understand and need some help with.

  1. At the heart of this problem is a fundamental inversion of the relationship between the NHS and the people it serves. The message that the public must ‘protect the NHS’ is completely the wrong way round. The NHS and Public Health England have a duty to inform the public of the relevant facts in an accurate and dispassionate way and look after the sick – not contribute to general hysteria, over reaction and advocate lockdowns. The Pharisees who control the system are confident in their ability to hide behind the carefully curated NHS brand and get away with anything they want. Has no-one else noticed this?
  2. Governmental decision making seems to have been taken over by monomaniacal and effectively unaccountable technocrats. What rational elected government permits this degree of ‘deformation professionelle’ without challenge? Is it just because the PM read classics and the Health Secretary PPE that they can’t see the obvious bias in the information they are being fed?
  3. There has clearly been state utilisation of psychological messaging to deliberately generate fear in the population. The rational approach would have been to reassure people that they were perfectly safe if they behaved in a sensible manner. The terror messaging about the ‘killer virus’ is straight out of a military psy-ops manual and requires a detailed explanation as to who authorised this deliberate misinformation campaign and why. The fact is that the COVID 19 virus is not very dangerous to more than 95% of the population… we are not all going to die from it… the vast majority of us aren’t even all going to be ill with it.
  4. The use of the police to enforce excessively harsh Fixed Penalty Notices out of proportion to the threat are completely at odds with British traditions of policing by consent. Threats by chief constables in the press to invade people’s homes at Christmas to prevent family gatherings – what the hell is going on? Who has allowed the police to act in such a manner and why are they doing it? We are used to incompetence in British public bodies – we are not accustomed to living in an authoritarian police state.
  5. The lack of preparedness of the NHS to meet a known risk. Since the spring, the NHS has had five months to get ready for the inevitable winter surge – and yet we are still bombarded with dramatic testimony and warnings of hospitals being ‘imminently overwhelmed’ and ‘close to collapse’. How can an organisation which consumes an annual £145 billion of taxpayers’ money have failed to prepare adequately for a known and entirely predictable event?
  6. The lack of balance in providing advice to ministers about known downside risks of lockdowns – missed cancers, heart disease and mental health, so that a balanced risk benefit analysis could be undertaken and communicated to the public. Not to mention the economic effects. The refusal to acknowledge there could be a range of opinion on these matters outside the SAGE bubble.
  7. Secrecy around data release to the public – open and honest communication to foster trust and confidence is essential in a public health crisis. The concealing of the rate of hospital acquired COVID cases – exposed by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine yesterday – is a total scandal. Continual cover up, spinning of messages and attempts to ‘style it out’ damage public trust and confidence still further. Why is this happening and who will be held to account for it?
  8. Overt use of exaggeration and over extrapolation by SAGE – a litany of egregious errors: excess predictions on ICU bed requirements in the first wave, gross inflation of death rates, conflation of positive tests as ‘cases’, failure to engage with the false positive rate of PCR testing, dramatic over-prediction of case incidence (the Graph of Doom), miscounting of deaths as Covid-related, miscounting of patients having incidental in hospital positive Covid tests as suffering from Covid and on and on… Surely not all of these errors can have been innocent mistakes?
  9. Unelected officials being given a platform in the media to call for the restriction of civil liberties on the population at large, whilst being personally insulated from the consequences of such restrictions by being on the government payroll. Who authorises pompous non-entities employed by the public purse to go on national media with alarmist and inaccurate warnings of imminent collapse in health services or make threats to the nation’s Christmas celebrations – if a practising clinician did that, they would soon be suspended.
  10. And finally… where is the effective Parliamentary accountability? The Labour Party is incapable of holding the Government to account, so the de facto opposition is the Parliamentary Conservative Party. I would be banging daily on my MP’s door, but there is little point as she represents the Labour Party. It seems to me the only effective way of leveraging political opposition is for people in conservative seats to make their MPs’ ears bleed.

I’d be grateful for illumination on any of these points. When they are cleared up, I have 10 more to consider, starting with the lack of any significant coverage of the alternative view point by our national broadcaster…

We can help him with that last question. It’s because Ofcom issued ‘coronavirus guidance’ warning broadcasters to treat with extreme caution anyone questioning the health advice of the Government and the public health authorities. This is the guidance the Free Speech Union is trying to judicially review. But don’t take it from us. Annabel Fenwick Elliott in the Telegraph lays it out in a piece in today’s paper:

We really are in dangerous territory now, and there are two concerns that I just can’t shake off.

The first is our Government’s continued refusal to paint a balanced picture of the ongoing situation. Statistics which put into perspective the small number of deaths now compared to at the peak of the pandemic, and indeed to the normal number of deaths we can expect to see at this time of year, are available; but they are not presented at Professor Chris Whitty’s weekly addresses to the nation. They are buried in lengthy Public Health England reports which most ordinary people won’t seek out.

SAGE, meanwhile, has free licence to broadcast grandiose predictions across every TV and radio in Britain, based on models that have been proven wrong time and time again. This team has now had the best part of a year to prove itself worthy of such an influential platform. Enough.

Second, and arguably worse, is the near-censorship of dissenting scientific views as a result of regulatory body Ofcom’s ‘coronavirus guidelines’, which effectively blocks the media from publishing professional, accredited, expert analysis – debate even – that doesn’t toe SAGE’s party line.

Worth reading in full.

Postcard From Rhodes (Reprise)

Historian and Lockdown Sceptics regular Guy de la Bédoyère, who sent us a postcard from Rhodes last week, has a brilliant piece in the Telegraph where he writes from that sun-drenched Rhodes beach (not jealous at all).

I’m sitting on a Rhodes beach basking in the late October sun. Were I back home in Lincolnshire, I would be lurking in my living room, watching the rain teem down while the radio blithers away with a barrage of Covid-related gloom. Indeed, it is almost impossible to overstate the psychological benefits of being here, strolling the quiet streets of a Greek island under the pure autumn light, at an otherwise chaotic time like this. 

As far as I’m concerned Britain’s response to this virus is entirely overblown, given its low mortality rate compared to past epidemics. In September 1665, London alone was losing the proportionate equivalent today of 130,000 people per week.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that just 40 years ago Britain experienced, annually, around 50,000 more deaths than the current average annual rate, and had done since 1950. Before that it was even higher – the tragic paradox of COVID-19 is that it is, to a large extent, the result of modern medicine, diet and living conditions that have kept vulnerable people alive for far longer than ever before.  

Furthermore, as a historian, it goes to illustrate just how little we have progressed from the superstitious-driven medieval mentality of our past. Today’s ‘experts’ and their sketchy ‘science’ have replaced Rome’s soothsayers. Driven half-demented by the discovery they are not gods after all and thus unable to abolish death and sickness, the powers-that-be are resorting to ever more futile measures, only to blame the public when they don’t work. 

This piece is a delight, well worth reading in full.

Round-Up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Just one today: “Virtual Insanity” by Jamiroquai.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.

Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we bring you the United Nations and their bizarre warning about humanity getting too close to nature.

Warning that there are up to 850,000 viruses which, like the novel coronavirus, exist in animals and may be able to infect people, the panel known as IPBES said pandemics represented an “existential threat” to humanity.

Authors of the special report on biodiversity and pandemics said that habitat destruction and insatiable consumption made animal-borne diseases far more likely to make the jump to people in the future. 

“There is no great mystery about the cause of the COVID-19 pandemic – or any modern pandemic,” said Peter Daszak, president of the Ecohealth Alliance and chair of the IPBES workshop that drafted the report.

“The same human activities that drive climate change and biodiversity loss also drive pandemic risk though their impacts on our agriculture.”

The panel said that COVID-19 was the sixth pandemic since the influenza outbreak of 1918 – all of which had been “entirely driven by human activities”. 

These include unsustainable exploitation of the environment through deforestation, agricultural expansion, wildlife trade and consumption – all of which put humans in increasingly close contact with wild and farmed animals and the diseases they harbour.

Humans are increasingly in contact with wild and farmed animals? In the 21st century? Nonsense, clearly. Now if you’ll excuse me I need to go and milk the cow ahead of my daily bear hunt.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.

Mask Censorship: The Swiss Doctor has translated the article in a Danish newspaper about the suppressed Danish mask study. Largest RCT on the effectiveness of masks ever carried out. Rejected by three top scientific journals so far.

Stop Press: The residents of Waynesville in North Carolina have shown some gumption when threatened with a local mask mandate. From Health Impact News.

Waynesville leaders backed down from a proposed local mask mandate Tuesday night after nearly 100 people packed town hall to voice their opposition.

Tensions rose before the meeting ever began when the assembled crowd — who were being held in the lobby until the doors opened — learned there wasn’t going to be enough room for them all in the town board room.

Those wishing to speak were told to fill out forms and wait until their name was called. This didn’t sit well with many in the crowd, who demanded the meeting be moved to the sidewalk outside so that everyone could see and hear it — touching off a loud chant of “Take it outside.”

Town staff and police officers eventually quelled the crowd and convinced them that waiting for their turn to speak was the only option. Another uprising ensued after the waiting crowd was told they couldn’t come in without a mask when their turn rolled around.

The vast majority weren’t wearing a mask, given the whole reason they were there in the first place was to speak against the proposed mask mandate.

Some claimed exemptions for religious and health reasons, but others simply said they weren’t going to wear one and it would violate their rights to be denied entry to a public hearing on that grounds.

In the end, masks were offered but not compulsory.

Gives you hope.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Sunetra Gupta, Professor Martin Kulldorff and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last week and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it. If you Googled it last week, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this hit job the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and this Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now well over 600,000 signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: Sunetra Gupta was on talkRADIO yesterday rebutting the nonsense that keeps coming out of official channels. And Jay Bhattacharya is on this week’s Spectator TV.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

Christian Concern is JR-ing the Welsh Government over its insistence on closing churches during the “circuit breaker”. See its letter-before-action here and an article about it here.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.

Stop Press: Simon Dolan finally makes it to court, and writes about it in the Telegraph.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email [email protected] or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

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Margaret
Margaret
5 years ago

Oh dear. Have just read CRG’s letter to Boris, signed by Mark Harper and Steve Baker.

“There is no doubt that Covid is a deadly disease to many”.

The lack of knowledge is so disappointing.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
5 years ago

I don’t.

BobT
BobT
5 years ago

Stepping back a bit and assuming UK population is 67 million.

If Neil Ferguson’s prediction of 500,000 deaths (if no preventative action was taken by government) was correct. Would it be reasonable for the government to destroy the livelihoods and wellbeing of 66,500,000 people and their children in an attempt to prevent that loss of life?

Let me go further and assume that Neil was out by an order of magnitude in the other direction and that 5 million people would die with no government intervention. Would it then be reasonable for the government to destroy the livelihoods and wellbeing of 62, 000,000 people and their children in an attempt to prevent that loss of life?

Ossettian
Ossettian
5 years ago
Reply to  BobT

He predicted that the 500,000 dead would mostly have died within a year anyway.

And that the alternative was 50k dead of covid and 250k dead of the lockdown.

BobT
BobT
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

sounds about right

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  BobT

He actually said: (Science and Technology Committee – 25 March 2020)

We do not know what the level of excess deaths will be in this epidemic, and by “excess deaths” I mean by the end of the year what proportion of people who died from COVID-19 would have died anyhow? It might be as much as half to two thirds of the deaths we are seeing from COVID-19 because it affects particularly people who are either at the end of their life or with prior health conditions. I think those considerations are very valid.

He didn’t give specific numbers.

BobT
BobT
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Well, I have specific numbers. All the excess deaths were caused by the removal of hospital healthcare services from the UK population.

hospital occupancy and deaths2.jpeg
BobT
BobT
5 years ago
Reply to  BobT

Or this one

hospital occupancy and deaths2.jpg
Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  BobT

Both great graphs, Bob; good bit of work, that is.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  BobT

Could be.

I put forward an idea in the comments the other day. I suggested that a great deal of those who died in the Spring were elderly/vulnerable who hadn’t died in the Winter Flu season, because we didn’t have one. A lot of those will have been among those kicked out of hospital, as per your graph. 🙂

Basically, Covid killed the “dry-tinder”, as Ivor Cummins called them.

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Fibber Ferguson never makes that point when out and about on the BBC spreading alarm and despondency.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  BobT

Hi Bob

Since you mention Ferguson, and the rubbish we saw posted tonight; here’s a tasty little tidbit for the forum to digest.

Giving evidence to the Science and Technology Select Committee on 10th June 2020 Ferguson told MP Graham Stringer.

Graham Stringer: Do you think that the Government and SAGE have been over-reliant on models?

Professor Ferguson: I think that Sir Patrick and Chris Whitty have a healthy scepticism for models, and the clinical and virology communities were both represented on SAGE. You could argue about the balance of representation. What models do is to codify assumptions and knowledge in a very precisely testable way, so I would defend them from that point of view. Where they become problematic is if they are taken as in some sense a literal view of the truth. Models can only be as reliable as the data that is feeding into them.

And yet Whitty and Valance presented a load of shite scenarios all based on models that sure had ridiculous data fed into them.

BobT
BobT
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Yep, I have done spreadsheet models for business plans. Its called ‘making up numbers’. The difference is that when I make up numbers the business does not take off so no damage to the world is done. In the SAGE modelling group, the results of their ‘made up numbers’ have effed up the whole world.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  BobT

In the SAGE modelling group, the results of their ‘made up numbers’ have effed up the whole world.

Can’t disagree with that.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago

Telegraph headline:

Convinced by all the data, the PM has followed his ‘moral imperative’

They didn’t present data; they presented a very dodgy ‘Fergusonesque’ worse case scenario; that is NOT DATA, Boris!

Ossettian
Ossettian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

He’s a not-very-bright buffoon who had an expensive education in memoirising ancient poetry.

Ossettian
Ossettian
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

I’m not sure that “it’s all in there” but I’m convinced I have more in common with Xenophon than with Cixin Liu.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Correct.

Salopian
Salopian
5 years ago

A lesson from history .
The terror of the French Revolution condemned hundreds of thousands to death on a scientific theory under the Committee of Public Safety of Robespierre .
It was the Sage of its day .
Happily he died a cowards death on his own guillotine when the people turned against him.
Can readers suggest any candidates for Madame Guillotine for our modern day Robespierres ?

jim j
jim j
5 years ago

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/slides-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conference-31-october-2020

Have a look how poor the homework appears to be. No explanation for the extraordinary extrapolations.

The NHS has caused this, it is the funny bone of the U.K. , the topic that makes the nation immediately irrational.

James
James
5 years ago

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” – Thomas Jefferson

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago

Remember NED: No Excess Deaths.

Whatever the dodgy death toll ascribed to Covid, we have no overall excess deaths in
the UK. There is no crisis, no need to tighten the Lockdown. This is the point that needs to be got across to fail and friends and the media: no excess deaths.

Sadly, although making several good points, Gupta failed to get this across on BBC TV.

Is Baker so thick he doesn’t understand the point? Perhaps. Toby and Co. Need to get some well crafted questions asked jnbtge House of Ministers on this very point. Best as written questions so they can’t bluster.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

THe ‘Tory rebels’ have been given a good talking-to and perhaps it has been made plain what the real reason is for this year’s events.

A commenter earlier – Dan Clarke I think – mentioned how shocked he thought Baker looked.

alison
alison
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Maybe because Baker is not very bright and was overpowered by his, Browbeating of Doom with Graphs. Or possibly Whitty is a skilled hypnotist, it would explain a lot.

Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

What do you think is the real reason? Genuine question. I’m not of the policy blunder persuasion.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

In the early months of this crisis Chris Martenson was convinced that covid was a terrible deadly disease.He has done a complete 180 degree turn:

“The alternative narrative, one that I’ve uncovered after 9 months of almost daily research and reporting, is this:

  • It’s not an especially dangerous disease and it’s certainly not novel”
  • .

…….

“The conclusion I draw from my narrative (vs. theirs) is that we can no longer assume that the public health or saving lives has anything to do with explaining or understanding the actions of these health “managers””

…………….

“We’ve now reached the jumping off point where we may well find out just how far down the rabbit hole goes.
A massive grab for tighter control over the global populace is now being fast-tracked at the highest levels. Have you heard of the Great Reset yet?
If not, you soon will.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/martenson-we-are-pawns-bigger-game-we-realize

Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

I welcome the fact that the scales fell from his eyes. I had to stop reading and listening to him when he went overboard on the seriousness of this disease. I had followed Chris for a number of years because of what he was writing on the issues of economics, natural resources and the absurd notion of infinite growth on a finite planet, biodiversity crash and so on.

Sally
Sally
5 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Took him 9 months to come to that conclusion! It will take at least that long before I can bring myself to listen to him again.

captainbeefheart
captainbeefheart
5 years ago

I never really liked going to armistice day ceremonies because in general, I’m not a big fan of these sorts of ceremonies. I’ve had forefathers die (and survive) the “great” war and it’s sequel and I think about what they done many times throughout the year so never really felt the need to be “wear a poppy” and get it all out of they way by being quiet for 2 minutes on 11th November at 11:11 every year until after some bloke plays a trumpet.

I hated all of the rows a few years ago along the lines of “that BBC presenter wasn’t wearing a poppy”, “who gives a ***?” I thought. This is Britain, you can basically do, act, look like whatever you want (as long as it doesn’t cause harm or loss to other people and no fraudulent trickery is taking place).

I had similar views about the “Muslim dress row”. Many Muslim women clearly want to wear their religious dress, and in my opinion, I thought “why the hell not?”. I thought it was a bit harsh of France to ban people from wearing things that make it harder for AI to recognise them on CCTV footage.… Read more »

DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
5 years ago

Retail Report:

Went to Morrisons late on Saturday night, not done this for some weeks so I was surprised to see that they have raised the shelving, so now as well as the warehouse they can store goods on the top of the shelving, previously the shelving was only about 6 feet or so tall, seems at least 7 feet now. Maybe they are stocking up for the next lockup panic.

The other thing was the groups of university students going round the store, two of which I had interesting times with.

First one a girl maybe 18 to 21 was hanging around in an isle, her friend walked past me but this girl was not sure. Eventually she ran past me, obviously as I am unmasked I am spreading death!, she honestly looked worried having to pass me in the store isle.

Second one, boy probably similar age, would not come past me in the isle, he went back up the isle, down the next isle and met his friend further down the isle from me!

What have they created?

JHuntz
JHuntz
5 years ago

Put everything else aside. How is Vallance still on a podium. we have uncovered this guy with a serious conflict of interest. In what world is he anywhere near policy making?

James
James
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

A very, very corrupt one.

Eddie
Eddie
5 years ago
Reply to  JHuntz

He’s just one of the untouchable actors in this grotesque political theatre.

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago

One of the graphs tonight showed 5 sets of modelling for Cobra to consider.

The document was dated 3 weeks ago.

The document does not show the correct first wave peak ( 1,445 ) it appears to show a first wave peak of around 800.

The document forecasts 800 deaths as of today for the worst outcome.

The document is clearly stating it is predicted not based on any real time data.

Why is such a flawed paper presented as clear evidence and no one in the media challenged it ?

Anyone would think the U.K. is terrified that someone might notice how from the entire globe we are amongst the worst.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Leemc23

That’s a great spot, Lee. 👍

As I said in my post earlier about sending this to your MP, they are appalling; they should never have been presented as evidence. The MSM should be all over this, but they won’t be.

I imagine Henghan and Jefferson will have a few things to say about them.

calchas also mentioned this in an earlier post; producing what they call evidence with no context. It’s very poor.

ziggee
ziggee
5 years ago

I don’t do twitter, but if I did..
#blowyourhorn
7pm Thursday.

Car horns obviously.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago

Ben
@BenMarten

Germany’s #Covid #lockdown2 has not even started yet (starts on Monday), and the case growth is already stalling!
Mobility Data remains high, which could mean the virus has hit a natural growth ceiling.

See Twitter link for graphs

https://twitter.com/BenMarten/status/1322668371679346688

captainbeefheart
captainbeefheart
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Nah, it will keep exponentially growing. I’ve had 74 kids in the last 8 months just to make sure there will be enough people to be infected for the official numbers to make sense.

Within the next couple of months, I am hoping that these 74 children will each have 74 kids themselves.

I’ll have millions of descendants by 2022

All of them are going to die of COVID-19

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago

Didn’t someone work out that if Vallance’s original ‘not-a-prediction’ was true, then everyone would have had the virus well before Christmas and several million would have died by the end of the year????

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Yup! 👍

Pancho the Grey
Pancho the Grey
5 years ago

You are not captain beefheart, you are a white mouse

Nsklent
Nsklent
5 years ago

Johnson states that if we do not do this lockdown .. ‘ for the first time in our lives the NHS will not be there for us ‘. What clown planet is this guy on. Bedides the fact for the last 7 months thousands of people have died from lack of care, the NHS on the whole has been a bureaucratic nightmare, some recipients good others awful. My father and mother were failed miserably, my grandmother’s equally so, as my nephew … No good experiences here. The man is deranged and believes his own rhetoric/ propaganda.

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago
Reply to  Nsklent

Sadly, you are correct. He did say that and the truth is the NHS is failing people. But that’s nothing new. All the pot banging in the world was never going to change how inadequate the NHS really is. Emergency care. Generally not a complaint but massive complaints about a lot of other things with the shit service.

Lucky
Lucky
5 years ago
Reply to  Leemc23

They’ve wanted to get rid of the NHS for a long time. This is a great excuse. They could have done it more humanely. Needless cruelty.

Edward
Edward
5 years ago

After today’s events I expect there will be some lowly government minions monitoring this site in case there are any credible threats of violence. To them I say, “Hey minion, how about becoming a double agent?”

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

Actually it’s a slight source of encouragement to me – very few trolls here or on DT. They obviously are busy trying to keep the situation under their control..
If only everyone just carries on ordinary life as we did a year ago, they can’t (yet) shoot us all.
But when they open the gulags they will have all our details anyway, it’s far too late – so we might as well be as open and brave as Koral Sikora and all the rest. Throw caution to the wind.

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

I doubt anyone who is a minion would credibility disagree with a single word written here.

Hieronimusb
Hieronimusb
5 years ago

Apparently Neil Ferguson, aka Fungus the Bogeyman, is about to publish the latest volume of his memoirs entitled ‘From Lockdown to Legover’. Can’t wait.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  Hieronimusb

Can’t wait to hear him tell us that K-Mart sucks and there’s ten minutes til Wapner

Hieronimusb
Hieronimusb
5 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Not sure if he goes into detail about his ranitidine habit or not, most of it is pretty indigestible tbh.

OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Hieronimusb

I thought it was called “Reach for the Stats: How I scared the bejeezus out of a nation of 65 million”.

stewart
stewart
5 years ago

We are witnessing a spectacular cover up.

The wave of hospitalisations and deaths they are expecting is not from COVID. It’s the wave of sick people caused by the virtual shutdown of the NHS for 8 months.

They count as a coronavirus hospitalisation and death anyone who has tested positive within 28 days, regardless of the actual reason.

So a person dies from an undiagnosed cancer but also conveniently tests positive? That’s a COVID death.

Once you realise what is really going on it makes you sick to your stomach.

Anothersceptic2
Anothersceptic2
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The one hope at the moment is that document published on the 28th regarding guidance on PCR tests. I notice that on the coronavirus dashboard the cases by specimen date suddenly shows a massive drop off in cases for the 29th and 30th… Coincedence?

TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago

These scumbag incompetents desperately need a way out. They have been trying (and predictably failing) to manufacture an escape route for months. As sceptics, we are in a dilemma now because it is of utmost importance to end the madness, but we also desperately need to make this scum pay for their crimes. Is it in the interests of the greater good to let them get away with their crimes? I don’t know. I really want them to pay heavily, as a deterrent for the future, but if they sense justice coming they will continue and escalate the madness.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I don’t think they want a way *out*; they need to find a way to prolong the ‘pandemic’ until they can force people to accept a vaccine, covipass etc… They need to get people to be that desperate that they will accept all of this….

TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

You might be right, but I doubt it. I still think that the most probable scenario is that they have dug a great big hole through their gross stupidity and now they need a way out without any accountability. They have been forced into a natural path, which anyone with any concept of strategy could have foreseen. Making the country pay the price via another month of lockdown, including suicides, cancer deaths etc is of no consequence to them because they are psychopaths. The only thing they think about is a way out for their own sorry arses, it consumes them. Unfortunately they will not make any personal sacrifice at all.

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

I don’t think covipass or a vaccine will be compulsory, having them be credible is the end game. Not the implementation. Enough silly sods will have the vaccine completely without question, no need to enforce it.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Leemc23

They won’t be compulsory.You just will be barred from everyday life without them.
These are key for the new order they are building.

Hieronimusb
Hieronimusb
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

They must be suffering from vertigo by now but the only way justice will be served is by getting rid of a very significant proportion of our political class and their ‘advisors’ – personally, I’d go the whole hog.

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Yes if they are incompetent.

No if they are happily on course for the ‘great’ reset.

A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Can it be over now by whatever means, then revealed to be a crime by an enquiry some time next year? Best of both worlds.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I would say their plan is obvious: create and present a scenario so ridiculous, so frightening, but stupid people and more stupid MPs buy it.

Then, as we all know, the final outcome will be nowhere near those numbers.

They proclaim the lockdown worked when the deaths are nowhere near the figures presented; Johnson, Handjob and SAGE emerge as heroes, in the eyes of the same stupid people and more stupid MPs

There’s no other reason I can see for presenting this rubbish tonight that anyone with a brain (i.e. us) will see through.

A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
5 years ago

If so it’s badly timed. How will they credit the lockdown?

However specimen date cases always have a lag, those days will almost certainly be added to.

andrew
andrew
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

My contact at Exeter hospital laughed when I asked if she saw any evidence of a surge in covid admissions.

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

It’s totally arse covering now.

Look at the stats here https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases

And you know all about the honesty at play.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago

For all the guys sending info to their MPs/1922 committee:

Send them copies of the slides that Whitty/Valance showed tonight. Get them here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/slides-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conference-31-october-2020

Ask them to ask themselves why (in the first set of slides) the CMO did not include a slide showing ‘case’ number graphs, but did do for hospital numbers and death numbers. Ask them to ask themselves is it because if the public saw the ridiculous ‘case’ numbers alongside the death numbers, they might, quite rightly, ask themselves, “There appears to be something not quite right about these numbers; what’s going on?”

The document you really want to send them is the 2nd one on that page; those showing the SAGE scenarios.

Point out to your MP that they clearly show these to be ‘scenarios’, not ‘forecasts’ or ‘predictions’. Also point out to them that no statistician/analyst worth his/her salt would fake the sudden increases in the trajectory of existing data, which appears to have been done in a couple of slides. If I presented these graphs to my boss, he’d sack me.

Point out to them that SAGE have clearly manipulated the data to achieve their intended end (in this case, to force a… Read more »

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

I’ve posted the email addresses of all 15 members but annoyingly the message is queued up “awaiting approval”.

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I just used it. Very useful thanks. I sent them this:

Do your duty 

Soon there will be no freedom no democracy no economy

The only thing remaining will be

 man’s inhumanity to man.

On your watch

Your responsibility

You will have blood on your hands worse even than the Holocaust

ACT NOW

stewart
stewart
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

Oh, cool.

TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Excellent analysis of what needs to be raised. To repeat an earlier post, copy and paste these addresses into your email client, use the BCC field if you can, to obscure the fact that this has gone to a group:

[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected];[email protected]

Beowa
Beowa
5 years ago

So we now have a new lockdown – the thought occurs that if on Remembrance Sunday we all went and remembered those who gave their lives for Freedom it might just make Bozo and his circus think again

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Beowa

My wife and myself will be at the local cenotaph. No doubt the local constabulary will also be there with raised batons, in case the mourners get rowdy.

Nsklent
Nsklent
5 years ago

This is like trying to rationalise with the insane. A DT article where politicians rationalise Johnson’s response – if we don’t, thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions could be without healthcare, Ffs, we have been without health and dental care for the past 7 months. If this is the only thing driving the lockdowns, I’ll take my chances with a supposed overwhelmed NHS, or alternatively take a ferry to Europe, either better than this shit show.

John P
John P
5 years ago

I was just thinking about Simon Dolan’s judicial review.

That corpulent wretch in #10 hasn’t even bothered to wait for the outcome.

Like he’s so sure that the three judges making the decision are going to find against Simon.

It may be that they will, but wouldn’t it be fantastic if Simon wins!

That’ll really fuck the bastard up.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

LD II has been perfectly timed to sink all the legal action.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Yes, Michael O’Bernicia’s cases require a jury – likely difficult under lockdown…

andrew
andrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Panic mode.

Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

Indeed, John. I doubt his arrogance knows any bounds. However the ruling next week is only on whether the case should be heard or not, so fingers crossed- Simon’s got a long way to go still even if he overcomes this hurdle.

Hieronimusb
Hieronimusb
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

Marginally less likely than a Trump win, but I would be prepared to dance naked through the streets of Haverfordwest!

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

They’ve probably bribed the judges..

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Bozo and Hancock know all about being bribed.

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Some judges are globalists and some are not. It’s still a mixed picture Carrie.
People are falling all the time but let’s hope Lord Sumption’s well-timed speech puts some backbone into them.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

Would be interesting to know if Sumption has any previous professional relationship with Justices King and Singh that heard the appeal…..

Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

Didn’t stop Austria from shutting down premises again, although the court decided a day earlier it was unconstitutional.

Edward
Edward
5 years ago

Chatting on the phone with a relative earlier this evening, not quite as sceptical as me but heading that way and fully supportive of my intention to ignore the stupid “rules”. Also told me about an acquaintance turning up for an appointment at a covid test centre, the queue was long so he gave up and went home untested, and later got a message saying he had tested positive.

Anothersceptic2
Anothersceptic2
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

I’ve seen a few videos claiming the same, all hear say obviously

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago

It happens fairly regularly.

Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

a test centre with queues, i have my doubts

Skipper
Skipper
5 years ago
Reply to  Edward

That’s right any test not completed or unprocessed is classed as positive. I suspect there cannot process all tests in a day which is why tens of thousands of them are now being classed as positive.

Lucky
Lucky
5 years ago
Reply to  Skipper

That’s huge. Do you have a source/link for this?

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

Just as in the UK!
https://twitter.com/BenMarten/status/1322668371679346688
Germany’s C-19 lockdown has not even started yet (starts on Monday), and the case growth is already stalling! Mobility Data remains high, which could mean the virus has hit a natural growth ceiling.

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

It’s what you would expect to see in the presence of immunity.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago

I’m suffering from “I Want To Be In Stockholm Syndrome”.

leggy
leggy
5 years ago
Reply to  Liam

It’s a breath of fresh air. Though the new guidelines mean it’s a lot quieter than it would be. Still, managed to catch some live music tonight which was lovely. Dreading coming back. Considering applying for refugee status!

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18420927/
The global circulation of seasonal influenza A (H3N2) viruses  “revealed that there was continuous circulation in east and Southeast Asia (E-SE Asia) via a region-wide network of temporally overlapping epidemics and that epidemics in the temperate regions were seeded from this network each year. Seed strains generally first reached Oceania, North America, and Europe, and later South America.”
See the picture. Is it not amazingly similar to C-19? 

World.jpg
Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

More than a coincidence.

allanplaskett
allanplaskett
5 years ago

Wert

Dan
Dan
5 years ago

This is such an overreaction that I don’t believe so many can be so naive, foolish and credulous as to view this situation almost entirely without context and make sweeping decisions in the face of (and often seemingly in spite of) obvious catastrophic consequences for mental health, child development, jobs, livelihoods, businesses etc. *puts on tinfoil hat*. There simply has to be something else going on.

andrew
andrew
5 years ago

The only thing that can lift the spirits of the whole country is a Trump win on Tuesday.

Christopher
Christopher
5 years ago
Reply to  andrew

Help us Donald Trump , your our only hope…

andrew
andrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Christopher

And his missus.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Christopher

Trump may win, but he won’t man up and put Fauci in jail, where he belongs.

Christopher
Christopher
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

A narcissistic Buffoon he may be , but he’s the closest thing that we have to a Patriot ( American ) and covid scam sceptic we have .

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  andrew

Not sure the result will be known that soon – and the second there is any sign of a Trump win, the Dems will be straight to the courts, whilst also rioting etc…

andrew
andrew
5 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Dem filth in their masks. Jail them.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  andrew

The National guard have already been deployed… they’re on standby..

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