The UK’s “Second Wave” is a Costly Myth
Lockdown Sceptics contributor Will Jones has an excellent piece in the Conservative Woman about Matt Hancock’s mysterious obsession with a “second wave” and the ruinously expensive steps the Government is taking to prepare for this non-existent threat. Here’s his conclusion:
A lockdown that was brought in without precedent or planning for three weeks to ‘squash the sombrero’ and relieve peak pressure on the NHS is still going on five months later. We face a future of continued social distancing and unpredictable new restrictions that are socially debilitating and economically disastrous. Even the much-vaunted vaccine is very unlikely to do more than mitigate the impact of the illness, making it a likely false dawn for those waiting around for it.
Yet the World Health Organisation continues to call on governments to ‘do it all’ to ‘suppress, suppress, suppress’ the virus, holding up New Zealand as an ‘exemplar’. Britain, like Sweden, must reject this preposterous and nihilistic narrative. It is not possible to suppress this virus, as New Zealand is now discovering, but only to mitigate its impact while developing collective immunity and, ideally, returning to normal as quickly as possible. The measures introduced for this mitigation must be balanced against other risks and the high importance of normal, healthy living. Right now, the government does not even seem to be attempting a sensible cost-benefit analysis of its approach, working instead on the basis of a ‘reasonable worst-case scenario’ derived from discredited models. This is no way to run a country, nor a world.
Worth reading in full.
Up to 90% of People Who Test Positive Not Infectious
And this may explain why a rise in cases in countries like France, Spain and Italy hasn’t produced any corresponding rise in hospitalisations or deaths. According to a new study, up to 90% of people testing positive aren’t infectious. The Mail has more.
Up to 90 percent of people tested for COVID-19 in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada in July carried barely any traces of the virus and it could be because today’s tests are ‘too sensitive’, experts say.
Health experts say PCR testing – the most widely used diagnostic test for COVID-19 in the US – are too sensitive and need to be adjusted to rule out people who have insignificant amounts of the virus in their systems because they’re likely not contagious.
Today the PCR test, which provides a yes or no answer if a patient is infected, doesn’t say how much of the virus a patient has in their body.
The Mail‘s report is based on this story in the New York Times that we linked to a couple of days ago.
Four Charts Showing Casedemic Hasn’t Led to More Deaths
In case anyone thinks the rise in the number of people testing positive in Europe is cause for alarm, here are four charts showing cases and deaths in Italy, Spain, the UK and France.
Why Has Piers Corbyn Been Fined £10,000 But Not the Organisers of Sunday’s BLM Protest?
I got a lot of emails making this point yesterday:
I see Piers Corbyn gets arrested and fined £10,000 for “organising ” the anti-lockdown demo while Sunday’s BLM organisers “Ken Hinds, an adviser to Scotland Yard, Sasha Johnson, a youth worker and activist, rapper 2 Badda, and author Anthony Spencer” get away with “a word of advice”!
The Guardian has more on Sunday’s BLM protest here.
I disagree with almost everything Piers Corbyn has to say, but I would defend to the death his right to say it. You can contribute to his CrowdJustice fundraiser here.
Meanwhile, reader has put together a short film of Saturday’s protest.
Dispatch From Berlin
I’m publishing a “Postcard from Berlin” today that’s an account of attending the anti-lockdown protest on Saturday. My correspondent estimates a crowd of 150,000, nearly all of them sensible folk. Here’s an extract, giving you a sense of the sheer scale of the protest:
At 3.30pm the speeches started. By this point thousands of people were filling the entire length of the Straße des 17. Juni between the Victory Column and the Brandenburg Gate (2km), as well as Der Große Stern, the giant central square in the Tiergarten where the stage was set up. There were also huge numbers of protesters behind the Victory column on the Straße des 17. Juni heading west away from the Victory Column. Protesters spilled into the Tiergarten at the request of the organisers who announced several times that we needed to spread out into the garden or police would shut down the protest. Aerial footage shows the overwhelming crowds, but even this cannot show how many people were in the Tiergarten under the trees and in side streets. It took us over 25 minutes to walk from the Victory Column to the Brandenburg gate, and the whole street was full of protesters.
Worth reading in full.
Kim-Jong Dan Sued For Billions
Daniel Andrews, the tyrannical leader of the state of Victoria in Australia, is facing a multi-billion-dollar class action suit from enraged local businessmen. Yahoo Finance AU has more.
The Victorian Government is facing a potential class action expected to be to the tune of several billion dollars brought by the businesses that have been shut down during the state’s stage four restrictions.
The class action is open to all Victorian-based businesses that were shut down after July 1st, according to an AFR report, and thousands are expected to take part.
The lawsuit is being launched by Sydney-based law firm Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan, who are known for successfully winning a class action against the Queensland Government after the November 2011 floods.
The class action also names Victorian Ministers Jenny Mikakos, Martin Pakula as well as their department secretaries.
The lead plaintiff for the case is the owner of a New York-themed restaurant, Anthony Ferrara, who normally earns tens of thousand dollars a week but is now only open for takeaway and making below $10,000 a week.
“Victorian businesses don’t need charity or kind thoughts from politicians,” Ferrara said.
“We need certainty and we need it soon. Our situation is not our doing. We are calling to account those who put us in this dire position.”
The owner of Melbourne CBD’s The Carlton Club, Windsor Castle and Gertrude Hotel, Tracey Lester, is also expected to join the class action.
More power to their elbow.
The Tyranny of Coronaphobia
Professor Ramesh Thakur had a full page interview in La Nacion, one of Argentina’s two main newspapers, on August 23rd. The interview has now been published in English in the weekly Open Magazine, under the title “The Tyranny of Coronaphobia”.
Prof Thakur has sent me a summary of the points he made:
- “Coronaphobia” has taken over as the basis of government policy in so many countries, with a complete loss of perspective that life is a balance of risks pretty much on a daily basis.
- The extent to which dominant majorities of peoples in countries with universal literacy can be successfully terrified into surrendering their civil liberties and individual freedoms has come as a frightening shock. On the one hand, the evidence base for the scale and gravity of the COVID-19 pandemic is surprisingly thin in comparison to the myriad other threats to our health that we face every year. We don’t ban cars on the reasoning that every life counts and even one traffic death is one too many lives lost. Instead, we trade a level of convenience for a level of risk to life and limb.
- On the other hand, the restrictions imposed on everyday life as we know it have been far more draconian than anything previously done. Yet, the evidence for the effectiveness of draconian lockdowns is less than convincing. As one Lancet study concluded, “Rapid border closures, full lockdowns, and wide-spread testing were not associated with COVID-19 mortality per million people.” The virus infection has not risen exponentially in any country; rather, it seems to climb steeply, stop, turn around and retreat almost everywhere in tune with some internal timeframe independently of government intervention strategies; and, differences in numbers of dead notwithstanding, the shape of the curve seems remarkably similar for many countries.
- The coronavirus threatens to overwhelm the health and economies of many developing countries where a billion people subsist in a Hobbesian state of nature and life is “nasty, brutish and short”. The rich carry the virus, the poor bear the burden since staying at home means foregoing daily income.
- I remain very puzzled at how so many people I considered to be liberals have been so utterly indifferent to the plight of the poor and the casual labourers who do not have the luxury of working from home, nor savings to fall back on to tide their family over until they can earn an income again.
- This is not to say that high-income Western countries are immune from the deadly effects of lockdown.
- I wonder, too, if we have set ourselves up to repeat the folly every year with annual outbreaks of flu, especially if it is a bad flu season. If not, why not? Perhaps someone will come up with the slogan “Flu Lives Matter”. Or governments could just pass laws making it illegal for anyone to fall sick and die.
- I hope that after the crisis is over, the balance between individual liberties and state power will be re-set instead of an even more powerful surveillance state being consolidated.
Worth reading in full.
The COVID-19 Assembly
The man behind Lockdown Truth, a companion website, is starting something called the COVID-19 Assembly. We asked him to do a few paragraphs explaining what it is.
The purpose of the COVID-19 Assembly is to allow the people themselves to take control of the COVID-19 narrative rather than the government and the mainstream media. By bypassing the MSM we will undertake the job of getting the real facts out to the public. One of the biggest problems with the current situation is that there is very limited information that the average person will come across without specifically looking for it. Most people simply aren’t aware that they don’t know many of the key facts about COVID-19 and “lockdown”.
We will create eye-catching and easy to understand content. Our “Top Ten Facts” can then be downloaded as leaflets, posters, roller displays, public presentations and slideshows for tablets and phones. All information will be based on official data and will avoid “conspiracy theories” which may put people off listening or helping. Volunteers will operate autonomously and present the facts to friends, families, colleagues, neighbours, clubs and amenity groups via pop-up displays in town squares and village halls or small meetings and workshops.
We will aim to create a diverse collection of people from ordinary members of the public to Nobel laureates working together to take control of this matter once and for all. Everyone has a part to play whether you just share our facts on social media or set up and run a local group. We need to work at local level changing public perception one person at a time. If we all do a little then the effect could be enormous.
If you’d like to join the Assembly, click here.
A Good Samaritan Writes…
Touching comment beneath yesterday’s update.
I thought I’d describe something that’s just happened in our local high street. My wife and I had just finished our walk and were heading home. We saw this little old lady (must have been in her 80s) obviously struggling with her shopping and could barely breath with her mask on so I stopped and asked if she needed help. I double and triple checked with her that she was OK with me handling her shopping so I carried it to the bus stop for her. My wife offered to walk with her at the same time and bless her, she linked arms with my wife.
All she did the entire time was thank us for helping her and kept asking if it was OK if she took her mask off. My wife said, “You can do whatever you feel comfortable with my dear. You don’t have to wear it but you can if you want.”
When we sat her down at the bus stop she held both our hands and said thank you ever so much. Her bus wasn’t for ages so my wife has gone back down in the car to give her a lift home
As we were walking away I actually started welling up because throughout the entire interaction, all I kept thinking was: “Can I handle her shopping, am I getting too close, is she going to feel uncomfortable?” When she grabbed our hands to say thank you, that’s what finally set me off.
All I kept thinking was, what the hell have we done to our country? Is this social damage irreversible? I hope not
Father Banned From Watching Baby’s Scan
A reader has been in touch with yet another NHS horror story.
My elder son and daughter-in-law are expecting their first baby in January 2021 and are understandably very excited about it (as are we as prospective grandparents). The first 12 week scan was in early August and my son was not allowed to attend with his wife. He offered to wear a face mask and not touch anything (or anyone apart from his wife) but was told in emphatic terms that no-one could accompany the pregnant mother and he would have to wait in the car (he was not even allowed into the hospital). The 20 week scan is in 2 weeks time, and this is an important scan as the medics check that there are no discernible abnormalities in the foetus, and if the parents wish, they can find out the sex of the baby. Again, he has been told he cannot attend and must wait in the car. This is cruel and heartless treatment. Seeing your baby on screen for the first time is a very special experience for both parents and for one of them to be denied that is unbelievable. I also wonder what happens if they do find a problem with the baby. Do they tell the mother and then leave her on her own to deal with the bad news? Or, do they decide that it is suddenly ‘safe’ for the husband to come in to the hospital so he can support his wife? They live in Solihull and this is not currently an ‘at risk’ area.
How long is this madness going to continue? Here we are nearly six months into this non-pandemic and still the government and NHS are insisting on ridiculous measures to keep the nearly non-existent virus ‘under control’. The hospitals are practically deserted anyway with very few patients attending any clinics. Next my son will be told that he’s not allowed to be at the birth itself!
Newsletter From the Society For the Elimination of Risk
James Hankins, a Harvard History Professor and lockdown sceptic, has written a brilliant spoof in Spectator USA purporting to be a newsletter from Eustace Stockstill, President of the Society for the Elimination of Risk. Here’s an extract:
Furthermore, our survey shows that, thanks to responsible selection of data by the press, the number of people who can distinguish absolute from relative risk has actually declined! Our efforts to raise awareness have led the British to believe that seven percent of Britons have died from coronavirus. Americans are even more aware, estimating that the virus has killed nine percent of their compatriots. Even if these judgments are faulty in a merely arithmetical sense, they surely serve the higher truth to which our Society is dedicated, that no risk is really tolerable. Our Society can congratulate itself for its part in creating this new and better form of rational ignorance. From now on, we and our cooperating scientists will get to decide what it is rational not to know. Who says that innumeracy can’t benefit society?
Worth reading in full.
Round-Up
- ‘Face masks: An open invitation to a virus‘ – Good piece on the science of face masks by Harold Armitage in the Conservative Woman
- ‘Reluctant office staff defy government call to commute‘ – Depressing piece in the Times about how unwilling the British are to return to the office
- ‘The complex cruelty of comedy‘ – Andrew Doyle in Standpoint on why comedy shouldn’t be censored by the woke thought police
- ‘MPs are ordered to “take anti-racism classes”‘ – The “unconscious bias” snake oil is now on sale in the House of Commons
- ‘“Sentenced To Isolation Prisons!” – College Students Across America Are Being Subjected To A Horrid Psychological Experiment‘ – Zero Hedge zeros in on the social distancing measures American students are being forced to endure
- ‘Police Go Where the Crime Is‘ – Heather Mac Donald debunks the BLM narrative about the police for Prager U
- ‘Wait to 2022 to see an NHS consultant, patients told‘ – Don’t get ill
- ‘Universities are not going to be “care homes of the second wave”‘ – Ross Clark in the Spectator ridicules the UCU’s claim that as many people could die in universities as care homes if they reopen this month
- ‘Re-Open the Campuses‘ – Sign this open letter to the UCU calling for the union to drop its opposition to uni’s re-opening
- ‘Driving the economy into recession is killing more people than Covid ever could: Risk management expert PHILIP THOMAS says the greatest danger to Britain is our empty shops, offices and factories‘ – Trenchant piece in the Mail by Philip Thomas, Professor of Risk Management at Bristol University. Scroll down to see it
- ‘Britain has become a scaredy-cat nation of masked hypochondriacs who won’t leave home‘ – Trevor Kavanagh on top form in the Sun
- ‘Facebook’s purge of left-wing radicals‘ – Good piece in Spiked by Fraser Myers. First they came for the right-wing radicals and I said nothing because I wasn’t right-wing…
- ‘Denise Welch hits out at Matt Hancock‘ – Denise Welch gives Handy Cock both barrels
- ‘Piers Morgan slams “cancel-culture” trolls who make others feel “ashamed” of their country‘ – Morgan demonstrates he’s not wrong about everything
- ‘Prof Carl Heneghan: “Children more at risk from influenza.”‘ – Prof Carl Heneghan tells it as it is on ITV’s This Morning
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just one today: “Communication Breakdown” by Led Zeppelin.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We’ve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened
A few months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all (and some of them are at risk of having to close again). Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! If they’ve made that clear to customers with a sign in the window or similar, so much the better. Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 2nd to Oct 12th). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £3.99 from Etsy here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now over 31,000).
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
Stop Press: A reader has got in touch to tell us that her son’s school – Bedgrove Junior School in Aylesbury, Bucks – is insisting that children as young as six will have to wear face masks. Shocking.
We have, today been sent an email which no doubt was on “delayed send” on Bank Holiday Monday in order to prevent immediate readings of furious replies or the inevitable march of angry parents to the school gates, stating children from 6yrs –11yrs are required to wear face masks on the school grounds to “practise” for when the Government makes it mandatory.
The school have stated that masks are to be worn on the way into and out of school, into and out of classrooms and corridors.
Meanwhile, some headteachers think it’s too dangerous to let all children back into schools.
Molly Kingsley speaks for all parents when she says we’ve had enough.
Shameless Begging Bit
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And Finally…
In this week’s episode of London Calling, James Delingpole and I discuss Piers Corbyn’s £10,000 fine (he should have worn a Black Lives Matter t-shirt), why we’re both such embarrassing dads and the appalling mobbing of the singer Adele for “cultural appropriation”.
Why does the woke Left direct its most vicious abuse towards people who are basically on the same side, but deviate from the orthodoxy in some minor, entirely innocent way? It’s as if they don’t want to change society for the better, just find excuses for cancelling people.
You can listen here. And if you like it, you can subscribe on iTunes here.
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Lock down Glasgow again, and declare another Indy Ref.
Nicola is sure feeling a rush up there, she’s got upper hand on Westminster so why not have a crack!
To be renamed Maskland after gaining independence.
It’s all just a Maskquerade!
In all seriousness I was previously in favour of Scottish independence. My rationale being that it would disrupt the UK power structures enough to give us all a chance to build something better. Now I can see that it would be a complete nightmare. I knew the SNP were big pushers of the Nanny State, but I didn’t realise they were full-on communists in the style of 1980s East Germany. Hadrian’s Wall will be getting a substantial refit. I wonder what Crankie’s plan’s are for the Death Strip?
I certainly don’t see they add any value to the UK, it’s an amazing place with amazing people, and that will always be the case I guess, but god it’s NaNa Land on Covid, an economic disaster, and she whines incessantly!
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.28.20183699v1
Do Lockdowns Bring about Additional Mortality Benefits or Costs? Evidence based on Death Records from 300 Million Chinese People
This is a fantastic article from China not peer reviewed. Enormous other benefits from lockdown!!! I hope they send this article to Peru as a consolation price.
“we find that lockdowns reduced the number of non-COVID-19 deaths by 4.9% (cardiovascular deaths by 6.2%, injuries by 9.2%, and non-COVID-19 pneumonia deaths by 14.3%). The health benefits are likely driven by significant reductions in air pollution, traffic, and human interactions. A back-of-the-envelope calculation shows that more than 32,000 lives could have been saved from non-COVID-19 diseases/causes during the 40 days of the lockdown on which we focus.”“The results suggest that the rapid and strict virus countermeasures not only effectively controlled the spread of COVID-19 but also brought about massive unintended public health benefits. These findings can help better inform policymakers around the world about the benefits and costs of city and community lockdowns policies in dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic.”
Covid-19 would have killed 500,000 in the UK.
40,000 died from Covid-19 in the UK (90%+ with co-morbidities but we won’t mention this).
Therefore the lockdown saved 460,000 lives.
And now we know it saved even more lives, so let’s round it back up to 500,000.
So that’s official then, the UK lockdown saved 500,000 lives.
And masks prevent all other diseases, so actually no one will ever die again.
The brilliant response to Covid-19 means that death has officially been eradicated.
Really?! The Chinese want the world to remain locked down just as they open up? Shocking.
One for the mathematicians I think, statistical modelling of averted deaths by comparing locked down areas with non locked down. Although it’s the first time I’ve seen ‘back of the envelope calculations’ described as such in this kind of paper. Impressive dataset, 300M or 1/4 of population, but it excludes any from Wuhan/Hubei province, as the epicentre’s crisis conditions might have meant recording was not as good as it should have been. And they don’t seem to take any account of additional deaths from suicide , drug and alcohol abuse.
I did not read the article in whole.Enough to state “back of the envelope calculation”. This is pure Maoist propaganda.I assum anyone who bothers to read it can tear it into pieces.But too nauseating.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53987928
Apple has begun letting its iPhones carry out contact-tracing without the need for users to download an official Covid-19 app.
As an alternative, owners are being invited to opt in to a scheme called Exposure Notifications Express (ENE).
This keeps a 14-day log of other phones detected via Bluetooth and serves an alert if one or more of their users is later diagnosed to have the virus.
I have not taken my smartphone outside my flat since 18th March, and never will again.
Just as well that the sole reason I go outside these days is to smoke a cigarette.
‘But there is one real danger – that the system will leave many feeling both confused and suspicious.
Its workings are complex and it could appear to many people that they are being asked to trust the tech giant rather than their local health service.’
Or they might just keep Bluetooth switched off, personally I’ve no idea what it’s for anyway.
And what is the actual point? there’s only about 30K people currently testing positive out of 66M people in UK, some will have recently recovered from infection, so not going to infect you, some false positives, a good few working in healthcare or food processing, some more poor things actually in care homes or hospital, including maternity units – and how likely are you to meet any of them? Bonkers.
https://www.nzz.ch/amp/meinung/kollabierte-kommunikation-was-wenn-am-ende-die-covidioten-recht-haben-ld.1574096?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR2kEBgEdmfCqV_IKI5HOUJ6mA3ewL1BFaNJRjzQMwIcyvLJfhey81z0QZs
This from Neue Zuricher Zeitung, Switzerland,,on of the oldest newspaper in the world. Mainstream but perhaps changing about C-19.”What happens if the Covididiots was right after all? “The article discusses the second wave in Europe with many cases and few hospitalisations and fewer deaths
das article est too much en germanschtagen. no comprehendensteinen
‘ware paywall, told me I’d used up all my free articles the minute I tried to go beyond it!
I rejoined my old cricket club and had the first practice session tonight.
One of the players is a GP from one of the towns surgeries, so obviously the question about “second wave” popped up. His answer was quite enlightening in that he said the consensus at his medical practice is that there will be no “second wave”, and he also said that they do not expect there to be much of a flu season this winter due to all those that died earlier this year!
Encouraging!
So I hope he’s also seeing patients as normal now and not just playing cricket?!
Which only leaves “the next one that….will get attention this time” (Bill Gates) to worry about.
Oh no, we know how that will be spun by HMG: “Low flu numbers due to increased mask usage!”
Not low enough though. Surely time for mandatory masks + visors + goggles + gloves.
Not funny. 🙂 Back in June, I made a bet with a friend. I said that our numbers had peaked on June 9th, and that the curve would look the same on the way down; we’d be near zero by September 9. A week ago, I texted her and asked when she was going to buy me those drinks. She said that the results do not count toward our bet because our numbers are only low due to masks!! I called bullshit – the mask mandate came on July 25th, and we had extremely low compliance until they started punishing business owners, but our numbers had already peaked out and plummeted.
There is no convincing true believers.
How much longer can we survive in a society that has gone totally insane? I’m treating this as a de facto terminal diagnosis i.e. I have 6-12 months left to live.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8681437/MPs-ordered-anti-racism-classes.html
Madness…
It was good to hear Edward Leigh’s comment from Parliament today, a rare voice not fully on message. Otherwise there is almost zero opposition to any of this hoo-haa. There is a Parliamentary Committee on Health and it does have a Coronavirus enquiry but that committee seems to have no scheduled actions at present;
https://committees.parliament.uk/work/81/management-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak/
It seems to me that at the time we need it most, our parliamentary system has badly let us down with no real challenges or questions being raised when the Governments actions on this virus have had such a huge impact. Is it worth writing to this committee? Otherwise is there any way we can stimulate some parliamentary activity to look objectively at what is going on?
Was Steve Baker there, out of interest?
Parliament 2020-20xx = Reichstag 1933-1945.
The entire Establishment has let us down, Steve. All of it.
Straw poll. Who’s thinking of ‘trying’ to leave (escape) their country of origin?
I’m of the mindset that if I can find somewhere which hasn’t gone insane I’m going to seriously look into it. I’m just not sure that many such places still exist.
I still can’t believe the lack of political opposition to what’s going on. It’s almost like a coup is underway.
Comment again when you’ve worked out where to go.
Mars !
Armenia and Pakistan have both tired of the charade, if you’re interested
Sweden!
There are some places better than others, but from what I have gathered a substantial level of Covid madness exists in every single nation state on the planet.
I have decided to stay put in the UK because it is at least familiar home territory. And bad as they are in the UK, the Covid restrictions are far worse in many other countries. The thought of having to integrate with a new culture, find a new source of income, learn a new language and deal with this shit is too much to take on.
That would have been back in March. Have you been living in a cave ? 🙂
Nah. Had my suspicions from early on. Try not to be too judgemental 😉
I’m staying put and fighting. Running away seems defeatist to me. Viva la resistance!
With you on that. Looks like north-east Wales is going to be ok…
I was thinking the same thing. Need to find myself a country welcoming non-vaccinated asylum seekers…or be done with the new world altogether.
Won’t be leaving, but the days of me playing the game with a straight bat are over. From now on, I’ll be doing my best to screw the bastards over and get everything out of them that I can. If that means bending a few rules, then so be it.
Do people with life threatening conditions still die of pneumonia, or is it all Covid now?
7 to 1 Flu/Pneumonia to Covid.
Somehow the lockdown and masks don’t seem to work against flu.
It is good to point this out to people – if all the masks, social distancing, lockdowns and hand-washing are so effective, why are people still getting flu and pneumonia?
I think the flu virus is different because reasons.
Good God, restrictions in some US States can never be lifted…perhaps to keep people away from polling stations?
https://mailchi.mp/tomwoods/falsepositives-320656?e=00f819942f
I think they will choose the president using an algorithm, much safer.
“Note that there is no stage that involves getting your life back, period. This means no return to normal, ever.“
On the lighter side, as they say in Reader’s Digest: When out walking recently I saw the Secretaries of State for Health and Education.
Please don’t insult donkeys.
In World War 1 it was ‘lions led by donkeys.’ Today it is donkeys leading sheep.
Deaths and hospitalisations are now irrelevant as they are microscopic; our lockdown lives are being governed by ‘cases’ (ie positive tests).
So I am trying to get my head round PCR testing (with much help from this site and precious little elsewhere).
Here’s a very simple question. We are told, about the test cyles:
…. through the magic of doubling, if this process is repeated 10 times you will have about 1,000 identical strands of DNA. Twenty times, a million (220). Thirty times, a billion (230). Forty times, a trillion (240). Each round of doubling is referred to as a “cycle”.
I understand that to be treated as ‘positive’, a test usually goes through 30 ‘cycles’, ie it can be negative after cycle 29 and positive after cycle 30.
WHY does this virus lie so well-hidden that you have to create 1,000,000,000 replicas of the original sample to find it? Why does it not show up in the other 999,999,999 replicas?
I’ve seen the really helpful Dr Kaufman video and read most of the ‘The Infectious Myth’ paper, but need something in terms that I can use to explain to the intelligent layman.
Have a look at Carl Heneghan article in the Spectator today.
Thanks Wendy – paywalled at the moment I’m afraid, but I may be able to access it later as one of my freebies for the month.
Welcome to your future
https://www.healthpassportireland.ie/
I’m sure there’s something of a very similar ilk in store for us in the UK
I dunno about this app. Yes it’s very much what “they” want but really? It is to regulate everything we do for what is essentially such a harmless virus that might even totally disappear. Well if they want to bring it in everywhere this is what will happen but it might just be hard for them to do it…
Although these days…..I think we will need to have it on a phone to do anything by about next week.
I think the regular testing version of this ‘health passport’ is to ‘soften us up’ for the vaccine passport, to be linked to our ‘proper’ passports. We already know the EU has been planning those for some time.. Document on that has been shared here before..
I think the play is going to be regular testing to help rid us of masks and distancing and then the vaccine to rid us of regular testing. They will do anything they can to help us get our lives back you know, they really care about ‘us’
Why would the government want to stop all the nonsense? It’s ideal for them. Easy power.
Yes, micromanaging our lives seems to be the endgame. Dominic Cummings’ job advert for geeks is beginning to make sense now…
On which subject, I am currently getting sent job ads via LinkedIn relating to using my translating skills for AI … suspicious timing… Obviously I am not going to apply!!!!
That sounds like a plausible theory (though obviously undesirable..). The testing may well enable them to build up a DNA database, so the vaccine is far from the end game..
On that subject, I wonder what happens to all the swabs they use for PCR testing? Are they discarded, or saved somewhere?
yer I know….
I believe it is the plan, if we want a ‘normal’ life, ie travel, job, childcare, education a health passport will be required. The climate change lobby want to be able to restrict travel, the pharma industry will make trillions and all connected to any of the industries will make their fortunes off the back of it.
Oh zure. I’m definitely going to download some app being sold by Robert Quirke whose ROQU Group’s most recent commercial success seems to have been staging some rock music festival in Jeddah…:
https://www.thedrum.com/news/2019/12/10/how-roqu-media-and-the-manual-london-staged-saudi-arabia-s-largest-ever-music
and whose first businesses desperate to trial it include an Irish hotel and a crèche in Westmeath.
Far be it from me to pour scorn on this opportunistic business venture:
‘The digital platform is a big step towards helping businesses and individuals to quickly minimise risks related to COVID-19 and ensure they can continue daily activities. The system has been designed to work will (sic) all official COVID-19 test types. (You bet).
‘Health Passport Ireland’ (my latest money making venture as a side hustle to running rock festivals, assisted by a cleverly designed website and some glossy PR) is launching with a trial involving a select range of national participants including Tallaght University Hospital, Oaklodge Nursing Home, Emerald Freight, Keogh’s Farm, Home Music Festival, a county Meath based crèche and more.’ (err who? Just run through that scintillating list of clients again?).’
EileenIorio (@eileeniorio) Tweeted:
@Picoroco That’s it. ROQU Group was set up for this app in July 2020. He was also involved in flying in a pallet of “equipment” for the HSE a few months ago. €14m for one pallet 🤷♀️ something odd here. https://twitter.com/eileeniorio/status/1300052088861458432?s=20
More alarmist dross, this time from The Guardian (published yesterday):
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/31/rising-uk-infections-what-do-the-latest-figures-mean
The article finishes with these observations from the “experts”:
How concerned should we be [about the increase in cases]?
The increase in the positivity rate since July has led to concerns about further easing of lockdown – including encouraging employees to return to the workplace.
Christina Pagel, professor of operational research at University College London, said among the concerns were that few offices had windows that opened and many involved sharing lifts and bathrooms [toilets].
[Shagger] Ferguson added that a critical moment would be the opening up of schools, and that could lead to a rapid increase in cases of coronavirus.
While Ferguson said he did not want to be alarmist, there was no room for complacency. “We do need to make sure that our testing, tracing and response to outbreaks in workplaces and schools or wherever is up to scratch,” he said.
Carl Heneghan addressing the PCR tests in a very good spectator article
It’s very dispiriting to report,but I think that here in the wildlands of south west Lincolnshire the war against the madness is lost.
Mask compliance appears to be total here,the only other bare-face I have seen in any shop since the law came in,excepting a few staff members,is my wife’s !.
The 2m bollocks seems to be back in full swing and there are more and more unpleasantly toned do this,don’t do that type notices on shop doors and some shops have reintroduced limits on the number allowed in at one time.More masked on the streets and driving cars.
It really seems like a huge step backwards has happened over the past few weeks.
I think we are the only sceptics on our street and probably on the whole estate !.
It’s starting to feel like waiting for the last helicopter out of Saigon !.Thank god most of our family and friends are sceptics !.
Perhaps we could develop a live UK interactive map showing how the “war is panning out” Red Fallen – Amber signs of resistance – Green Re Taken.
I understand, compliance is saddeningly high round here, even more than central Bristol and it’s been really getting me down lately.
Every time I think we are turning the corner, I am brought back down to earth by news like this.
I really think that the brainwashed masses are irredeemable. We have to find a way of extricating ourselves from this nightmare and abandoning them to their fate.
I think the vast majority of shop workers are under pressure to wear masks and most will think it’s bollocks! They have worked all through this!!!! and the vast majority did not wear a mask, some tried for a week or so – that was enough! They know! Pressure is from upstairs!
Many shoppers wear masks not because they have been brainwashed but because it’s well, less stressful!
There is resistance but it might not be visible.
To give hope I fell over the other day and a man wearing a mask came over to give me a hand!
There’s been a lot of teacher-bashing here recently. I’ve joined in, so I’m not excusing myself or blaming anyone else – the education fiasco has been probably the most reprehensible fiasco in a tough field in the last 6 months. And the teachers’ unions (actually, mostly NASUWT) have been appalling.
An anecdote for the counsel for the defence, however.
I’ve just had a couple of beers with a friend of mine who is a teacher at a secondary school north of the river. Term starts tomorrow. He said:
“Whatever they say in the press about thousands of years of education having been lost, I’m absolutely sure that we can get these kids back to where they need to be. We’re going to have to put the effort in and we’re going to have to do extra cramming, but by the end of the year, they’ll be fine. Where it’s going to become a disaster is when they start shutting down whole year groups and whole sections of the school for weeks at a time because a kid has a sniffle. Kids and teachers get colds all the time, but if we do that, we really will have failed… Read more »
I don’t hate all teachers – but I do hate all teachers’ unions. They ensure that the worst teachers remain, and that they remain influential. I don’t think all teachers support keeping everything closed because they are either irrational frightened, or they enjoy being paid to do nothing … but that is effectively what is being pushed, and at the forefront of that push are the Unions and our governments.
The teachers unions and some teachers may not have helped, but the lion’s share of the blame lies with the government, their advisors, the media and those national and international organisations who have lied, propagandised, sought to rule and push their agenda through fear and misrepresentation.
I dare say some diligent school, teachers and pupils will get back on track, and some may already be, academically, but from every other point of view given the current government imposed/suggested guidance school will be a shitty, devalued experience, with no sport, music, trips, socialising etc. etc. Ditto university. School and Uni governing bodies and leaders will make matters worse by safety-first madness, but the door was opened for them by the government, who must have know and must know how it will end. Evil.
Vernon Coleman’s 29th August 2020 London Rally Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cc-N8bkaYs
Vernon Coleman is one of those guys like who James and Toby were talking about on a previous podcast… has some pretty great things to say. But then you read his stuff about how men who crossdress live longer … and … um … well, he seems like a guy who has a lot of ideas, where some are better than others.
He’s an extreme vegan too. And friends who have had dealings with him in the past are not wholly complimentary.
But on the current bollocks, he’s been massive, 110%.
there comes to a point where Toby,James, Peter Hitchens and maybe a few scientists need to do a public speech/protest
Just found out that on P.E days at school my daughter has to wear her P.E kit the whole day. Yes that’s right, no changing rooms so if you have P.E. in the morning you have to stay in your sweaty gear for the rest of the day. And this is supposed to be in the name of our children’s health? Imbeciles.
Why are they all so determined to make life for children as unpleasant as possible ?,they are twisted sadists.
Anyone who comes up with a regulation like this is not fit to be a teacher or associated with the education of children in any way.
I wonder how many people there actually are in society who are responsible for all this? I would guess we on the sceptical side of the argument probably far outnumber them. It’s just that they are generally the psychopathic/narcissistic types who will stop at nothing to impose their will on others, and most people are too nice to resist them.
The kids here are getting around this madness by taking their uniforms and changing in the toilets.
My daughters school had just cancelled their P.E.lessons altogether.
Joined up government at its finest
Exactly – wasn’t Boris talking about the importance of keeping fit and healthy not 5 minutes ago?!
I despair of this shit show now.How can so many people go along with this nonsense.They also have to wear masks in the communal areas of the school but not in the classroom,because Covid magically doesn’t go through the classroom door.
Latest from Carl Vernon. He’s sounding a bit pissed off!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu6nHEHYnDM
I had to laugh this evening. There were some well-meaning mums discussing year-group bubbles at their kids’ schools. Less than 20 yards away, a big group of teenagers and younger kids rough-housing eachother, clearly not from same year group, possibly not even all from same school. No distancing whatsoever.
Masks outside – I think it has a lot to do with shopping. Where I live it’s rare, but we don’t have many shops. I visited a larger town on the weekend with more shops – a lot more people walking in the street masked, on the way from, to or in the middle of shopping. I don’t think many are wearing them to “go for a walk”. Yet. But people are very much used to them, and a lot don’t seem to mind them. They are just getting on with it, because they think they have to. They don’t seem like zealots, just people who want a quiet life.
Chatting to a few people today about coronabollocks, I am more and more convinced there’s a vast constituency of people who are neither zealots not sceptics, just people who have swallowed the lies without thinking much about it, who hope it… Read more »
This seems very true. I have noticed a lot of people who will wear the masks, but then see someone else not wearing one, and will say something like: “oh, do I not have to wear this?” and take it off. Clearly, it has nothing to do with concern about the virus. They see that there is a rule, and they follow the rule.
Once the rules are lifted, the masks will disappear.
The rules won’t be lifted. Why would they be? Why would the government give themselves all that explaining to do.
I went into a corner shop yesterday, maskless. I haven’t really shopped since this crap started, just the market and online, but I know big shops are full of masked people. The corner shop was busyish, one person only masked, everyone else including the owner without. If people start seeing shops like that, many would follow. But it’s chicken and egg.
I liken mask compliance to my experience of my school days. When the teacher asked if anyone didn’t understand something I found that most people who didn’t were too scared to put their hand up first. Once my hand went up I’d have no shortage of fellow strugglers but only if I raised my hand first, otherwise no one would fess up.
It’s kinda like a crazy Superhero complex where people are all sat waiting for the man with the underpants over his trousers to save them from Bill Gates !!!
Totally depressing really.
Agrees with my observations. Quite a lot of outdoor masks in shopping streets, very few in parks etc. And I think your assessment of people’s attitudes is correct.
P.S. I am regular contributor Edward, but I’ve now signed up properly to the site. I thought my display name was still Edward but apparently not.
Agree with your last paragraph, Julian. To add a couple of observations. The decline in deaths to almost zero has come much quicker that the government might have wished (probably by six weeks or more), thanks in part to the work of Carl Heneghan and his team in forcing the change in counting. Those low numbers will start to register in the public’s subconscious. There are some mutterings among senior doctors (via Allison Pearson in the Telegraph for example), although I would still like a more coordinated expose of what exactly is/has been going on in hospitals and the lack of treatment for heart, stroke and cancer. Ultimately, though, ‘it’s the economy stupid’ is what makes people take note, and that is coming fast into sight. I still think October is when there is a sudden change in mood.
I think they were shooting for November 5th… and yes, the virus fizzled out a bit too early.
Exactly!
I wonder if Sunak is going to do a “50% of fireworks” voucher scheme to kick start the economy?
My brother isa cardio surgeon and says he is now pretty much back to normal..
Where is he in the country – this certainly doesn’t seem to tally with what Allison Pearson has been saying from interviews with medics and letters from members of the public, or indeed with what others have said on here?
Agree – my mum is waiting on an urgent heart procedure and they can’t say when it might happen – possibly Christmas, if she’s lucky (!)..
Carrie, I’m sorry to hear that and hope she gets the treatment as soon as possible. I’m sure you know this already, but do hassle and don’t take no for an answer. Even in ‘normal’ times, getting treatment from ‘our NHS’ is a function of who shouts the loudest – I have had much personal experience of this.
Oh we are ‘hassling’ – when she was last admitted my sister called the ward and said she was refusing to pick Mum up until she’d seen the lung specialist (also long-promised). Mum stayed in hospital for several more days but the lung specialist never did materialise…. However once she came home she did manage to get to speak to someone else on the phone, so she did get some answers in the end..
Yes, sounds familiar. I usually ask to speak to ward sister and ask for ‘care plan’, and consultant/registrar, and ask ‘who is signing the documents and legally responsible for the decision’. Tends to focus minds!
Oxford/ Bucks
So do you think they were planning to lift the jack-boot of our necks in November?
Maybe just slightly loosen the pressure once the US election was over, presuming they’d seen off Trump? Slowly introduce vaccine and covipass after that..?
Would be difficult to just suddenly say ‘Ok guys, back to normal now – shame we’ve crashed the economy but hey ho, make the best of it’ and just expect people to accept that! Especially when since the start they’ve been going on about ‘the new normal’…
I think the US election might be important. The betting odds now have Biden and Trump neck-and-neck as of an hour ago. Biden’s 10% point lead pre the DNC has evaporated.
The interviews being conducted now regarding ‘Obamagate’ seem to be hotting up too.. apparently more due to happen at the start of next week.. MSM aren’t covering it, but MP Tobias Ellwood (linked to 77th brigade) is in it up to his neck, apparently.. Also Sir Richard Dearlove, amongst others.
Thanks, I will keep a lookout for that – ZeroHedge is usually good for that sort of stuff, including some of the comments under the articles.
Follow Greg Rubini on Twitter.. he’s written books about it all! Also George Papadopoulos..
How can anybody vote for Biden??? It’s pathetic, out of all the people in the USA and all they can come up with is Biden.
Or Trump for that matter. It’s just sad.
Yes, look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=w5EmROAzL-4&feature=emb_logo
Nothing of what he says makes sense!
And see this photo of when he made the speech: https://twitter.com/GregRubini/status/1300892156589113346/photo/1
This is just insane.
It occurred to me that the (few) people there supposedly listening all had laptops – were they all going to edit the footage if necessary? Were they journalists?
Yes, word salad. The guys is almost a vegetable now. Utterly useless.
He is obviously senile,but the hatred felt for Trump means a lot of people will still vote for him.
Yes, November the 5th US election day. Of course, I was thinking about Guy Fawks night as being a red letter day in the world of Boris the Patriot. “Fwaaahhh Fwaaah Quod est super
Iam qui ex Britannia, et egredietur a pyram! Fwaaaahhh fwaaaahhhh”
I doubt the PM cares much about Trump one way or the other. Notwithstanding anything else, why would our government wish to make our lives better, given that so many seem to accept it has to be like this. Until they feel threatened electorally by sceptics, they will carry on regardless. At present, the political threat comes from pro-lockdown parties.
Except that the British government were part of the spying operation on Trump, the USA got GCHQ in the UK involved… So we are not totally detached from the whole thing..
Trade deal or no trade deal, though?
I’m not sure there will be planning – it is more likely to be forced on them. Unless they can ‘find’ some deaths, the position will be unsustainable in light of economic armageddon.
Although it will be useful to them to retain the power of local lockdown, as the congestion round the Channel ports resulting from increased customs paperwork builds up in January. Works on the M2 and M20 on the moveable barriers etc to allow lorry parking all along it have resumed this week. They presumably don’t expect the massive new TIR lorry park near Folkestone to be sufficient. I’m waiting for a convenient ‘spike’ to be discovered from intensified testing at one of the UK’s biggest abbatoirs in Ashford in the New Year.
Prudent to stock up, folks, I know someone here has already invested in lots of tins of peas.
The fishing bill is now going through Parliament. Assuming it passes, there may be other decisions made regarding what happens after Dec. 31st..
You’re right on the money Julian. Everyone else is doing it and it will only be for the short term maybe. I just can’t fathom having this mindset but I guarantee that the majority is wired this way.
Interesting to see that the covidclaim.com (and variants) domain names have all been snapped up. This is going to be the PPI claim of the 20s.
Another £50b gov cash will be needed to fund the claims.
No surprise covidclaim.com is owned by a law firm.
That is interesting. There are some clever people out there, I wish I had thought of buying up some domain names related to covid back in January.
Yes the Public Health Act 1984 is the legislative teeth behind a lot of the guidance and the penalties especially relating to closing down businesses.. Although the councils don’t realise this because they are universally clueless or just totally corrupt. The ones in councils and local government that do understand are keeping quite about it. The fact would seem to be that there is a very valid claim to be made for loss of earnings due to being closed down under this act by your local council.
They are acting totally without any sound legal underpinning. However most businesses aren’t shut down under this legislation are they? They are shut down with meaningless threats and intimidation and the actual law is not applied to them is it?
Want to buy some popcorn? 😉
lol
Once the lies are laid bare – which is coming, and coming faster than most people realise – it’s going to be a lawyers paradise out there. Invest in popcorn. I intend to enjoy this revenge to the full.
My mother had a saying about uniforms, that went something like this:
“The great thing about a uniform is that it answers all questions.”
The same could be said of any government official, worldwide, who has been photographed, smiling, next to Bill Gates.
With the stunning information just released by the CDC about the COVID death count, you might be wondering what to do. Should you be living with more fear or should you be living with a lot more fear? Well in this video, your trusted health authority will be telling you exactly what to think and feel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0y6M-N8wOE
I didn’t click on that because I thought it would be some mind bending psycho-babble from the CDC, thankfully it was funny.
That is about the only thing that is funny right now. I retract my original statement about absolutely NOTHING being funny any more..
Excellent! Will put on the podcast.
Good work on the podcast btw. My kids enjoy it too – just a little bit worried about them going back to school slating bedwetters lol.
I’m just trying to imagine how your children’s teachers might react if they hear your children calling their classmates ‘bedwetters’ or similar – or if your children start educating their mates, who then start quoting the truth about Covid in class 🙂 Could be fun – Will you get summoned to see the Headteacher?!
At a baseball game this weekend, I overheard my 8 year old arguing with a teammate… the teammate was claiming that “millions” of kids have died of covid, and mine was saying that kids are not at risk and they aren’t dying of this.
Well done your son!
Have already envisaged this exact scenario playing out. Good for me/my ego. Less so the bin lids’ rapport with the school unfortunately
Maybe your kids should tell any worried mates that schools have been open in Sweden all year, and only one child under the age of 19 has died – and it is not even certain that the child had Covid…
N hs Louise Hampton – Nurse Whistle blower – MUST WATCH AND SHARE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu5KQtzBRYU&t=1s
All this sh*t is delaying tactics until they come up with some sort of vaccine and declare the chaos will be over when you have your vac cert and they hope everyone will be worn down with the mess life has become. They are disgusting
I really wouldn’t count on it being over with the vaccine. Why would they stop? It’s too easy – power without scrutiny
Agreed. The WHO has already moved the goal posts and said a vaccine alone will not be enough. Our chief medical officer has pretty much said the same.
Vaccine is just the beginning.Health and immunity passports next.A little tattoo patch to show you have had all your jabs.A surveillance society which test and trace is preparing us for and 5 g to help run it.They will never willingly give up the power they have over us now.
None of the regulations will be relaxed after the now near mythical vaccine is deployed. If anything, they will be intensified by many orders of magnitude.
I agree though that the authorities are trying to find the sweet spot to inflict the maximum level of pain possible without provoking a meaningful rebellion so that the highest percentage of the population as they can hope for will voluntarily take the jab.
I don’t think a vaccine is the endgame. Would that it were. Power is the endgame.
You are correct, but it is a very significant stepping stone in the accumulation of that power. For me it represents the keys to the temple.
Interesting video from Alan Jones on Sky News Australia on the Covid madness currently going on over there, https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6186554984001
I wish we could bring him over here, the man talks so much common sense.
‘Madness on steroids’ – yes, he got that right!
A superb discussion. Hits the nail right on the head. And yes, why are people like that not given air time over here?
The fact that woke people attack other progressives with extraordinary viciousness is not surprising. They are policing the boundaries of their kingdom and making an example of anyone who steps off the plantation. Deplorables like me do not really matter, because I don’t care what shitlibs think anyway and will not amend my attitude in any case, but wavering progressives can be scared straight by witnessing the punishment of other, apparently more powerful and well-connected, left-wing believers. A similar form of exemplary bullying is likely to be at work in keeping some of the covid obsessives in line.
Indeed
Similar to the way religious fundamentalists punish apostasy as against those who were never of the faith
at least there’s one of you…
It’s anti-racism class for you – you used the word ‘plantation’.
More questions
1) If we are in the middle of a genuine pandemic and there was visible evidence a very dangerous disease which was killing people or at least causing severe symptoms was rampant, why is that under the Coronavirus Act, the government had to introduce draconian laws telling people what they could or couldn’t do and force vast number of businesses to close. People could be fined if they broke these laws. If people saw a genuine danger was around, wouldn’t people voluntarily take precautions and draconian laws would be unnecessary. Doesn’t the fact the government had to resort to draconian laws indicate there was clearly no visible threat from a dangerous disease.
2) How could clothes and electrical shops be classed as non essential shops and forced to close.
3) If coronavirus is such a deadly disease, why is that the majority of people who have died from coronavirus are elderly, had several other health conditions and it is not certain to what extent coronavirus caused their deaths. As per the link below, even the BBC fear porn propaganda channel admits this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654?intlink_from_url=&
If coronavirus is so deadly, why is there evidence of death statistics being falsified as per the links below
… Read more »
All true this is no longer about a virus even if ever was.
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Good questions, unfortunately none of these questions are relevant to why we are under this tranny.
The reason for why we are here today is because of the global reset, the new normal is the objective, carbon zero by 2030, hitting the 17 sustainable development goals of the UN. The global lockdown was the primary objective, a viral “pandemic” is THE CATALYST for massive global social change.
So all of these questions are irrelevant because this is a global business plan and not a medical matter so medical facts are irrelevant. The global SCAMDEMIC is WARFARE.
And the question is how long it is going to take before people wake up and realise what is happening?
It’s amazing isn’t it? The thing is nobody has any idea about Agenda 2030 and all of this stuff. It’s just too boring to read and too hard to understand and it’s all just too much of a “CONSPIRACY THEORY” so people even if they do get a whiff of it just discount it.
All of this is SECRET information or it is on a “need to know” principle or something. I just don’t understand how more people don’t know about it but then it is all wrapped in corporate language so it passes it’s self of as sort “business practices” or “business training”. There must be a lot of people who get educated in this Communitarian new world system but don’t really understand what it means or where it fits into “the real world”. Perhaps its just a theory to a lot of people.
Powerful questions!
Too many questions – off to the Nightingale Covid-re-education hotel for you…
Hi All, just wanted to know if you’ve had a chance to listen to my podcast ‘Bedwetters’?
If you have can you let me know what you think, if you haven’t give it a try! I’d love to hear from you all, especially after the first few days back in Parliament…who knows we might be getting a democracy back.
Link below. You can subscribe on itunes, Spotify and wherever else you get your podcasts.
👉 https://bedwetters.buzzsprout.com/ 👈
I just listened, I really enjoyed it. Good Job! I do like a good podcast. Podcasts are mostly what I listen to normally.
I have enjoyed all episodes so far. Thank you! Definitely gives me a much-needed laugh as well as some info and insights