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Censorship of Covid dissent reached new heights yesterday with a concerted effort by numerous social media platforms to remove all content relating to the press conference held by America’s Frontline Doctors. Not only did Facebook and YouTube remove the videos – and the server hosting the Doctors’ website disabled it – but Twitter banned Donald Trump Jr from its platform for 12 hours because he posted a tweet that contained content from the press conference relating to hydroxychloroquine. (You can still see a video of the press conference on Bitchute here.) Dr Stella Immanuel, one of the doctors featured in the video, has been widely ridiculed for her strange beliefs, branded a “witch-doctor” and had her Twitter account deleted. (You can read a transcript of some of her remarks at the press conference here.)

According to the BBC, the reason the video has been banned is because it promotes the use of hydroxychloroquine, both as a prophylactic and an effective treatment.

The video, a 45-minute livestream of the first day of a “White Coat” summit by the group, was posted to Facebook, Twitter and YouTube by Breitbart and quickly went viral.

“The virus has a cure, it’s called hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax,” says one of the doctors in the video.

“You don’t need masks. There is a cure. I know they don’t want to open schools. No, you don’t need people to be locked down. There is prevention and there is a cure.”

Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have removed the content because it violates their “COVID-19 misinformation policies”, presumably by touting the benefits of hydroxychloroquine.

In a statement to BBC News, Twitter said: “Tweets with the video are in violation of our COVID-19 misinformation policy. We are taking action in line with our policy here.”

“We’ve removed this video for sharing false information about cures and treatments for COVID-19,” Facebook told the BBC, confirming it was also removing other versions of the video.

YouTube told the BBC: “We have removed the video for violating our COVID-19 misinformation policies.”

This view – that claiming hydroxychloroquine can be used both to prevent and cure COVID-19 is straightforwardly false and could lead to people harming themselves – appears to be based on the WHO’s official guidance.

The WHO says: “While several drug trials are ongoing, there is currently no proof that hydroxychloroquine or any other drug can cure or prevent COVID-19.”

“The misuse of hydroxychloroquine can cause serious side effects and illness and even lead to death,” it adds.

There are three things wrong with this argument for censoring America’s Frontline Doctors and anyone who links to the group’s claims.

First, while there may be no definitive “proof” that hydroxychloroquine “can cure or prevent COVID-19”, there isn’t any definitive “proof” that wearing non-surgical masks reduces the risk of infection either. Yes, there’s some evidence that non-surgical masks are effective, but then there’s also some evidence that hydroxychloroquine is effective. This study conducted by the French doctor and virologist professor Didier Raoult, for instance. That study has been subject to intense scrutiny and considerable criticism, but other, less controversial studies have also found hydroxychloroquine to be effective (see here for instance) and it’s still used in hospitals around the world to treat COVID-19 patients, including in the US. In Russia, Spain and Nigeria, as well as in some other countries, its use is recommended by the public health authorities. Yes, its “misuse” can result in harm, but that’s also true of almost any medical intervention, including face masks. Why apply a higher standard to doctors promoting hydroxychloroquine than to those promoting masks? If Twitter, Facebook and YouTube are going to ban anyone from touting the benefits of hydroxychloroquine on the grounds that there’s no definitive “proof” that it’s effective, shouldn’t they also ban anyone from touting the benefits of non-surgical masks?

Second, while some studies have shown hydroxychloroquine to be an ineffective and harmful treatment – see here and here, for instance – there isn’t any definitive “proof” that it’s ineffective and harmful. On the contrary, numerous trials are still going on around the world to try and determine how effective it is (if at all). Many of those trials were halted, including one by the WHO, after a study was published in the Lancet purporting to show the use of hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients, but the data cited in that paper turned out to be dubious and the Lancet subsequently retracted it and apologised. The trials have now been resumed. In the absence of “proof” that hydroxychloroquine is ineffective or harmful, why should the default positions of the Big Tech companies be to ban any doctors promoting it? In due course, the weight of evidence may point to its effectiveness, so by banning doctors from singing its praises YouTube and Twitter could be causing harm. At present, it’s far from obvious that publishing such content is more harmful than removing it.

Third, social media platforms should err on the side of free speech, so in the absence of “proof” that hydroxychloroquine is actually harmful they shouldn’t ban people promoting it. If an organisation intends to violate a person’s right to free speech – particularly a social media company – the burden of proof should be on that organisation to show that more harm will came from allowing the person to speak than from stopping them speaking, and in this case, that threshold hasn’t been met.

I’m afraid this is just another example of Big Tech companies labelling a point of view that’s endorsed by Donald Trump and other conservatives as “misinformation” to give them with an excuse for censoring it. The real reason, as always, is political.

A Patient Writes

Today’s Blower cartoon in the Telegraph

I got an email from a frustrated reader who tried and failed to get an appointment with his GP yesterday.

Two days ago I got to witness what a basket case the NHS has been turned into.

My GP does not now do face to face bookings. Nor can you book an appointment over the internet any more, you have to ring up.

So at 12.30pm I did so. I was in a queue, and I ended up hanging on the phone for 40 minutes until I spoke to a receptionist. I asked her if I could speak to a GP. She said sorry, there were no appointments available this week, but I could ring at 8am or 2pm to try and get an ’emergency’ appointment. I said it’s only 45 minutes till 2pm, could this not be sorted now: she said no, the computer system only “opens” at 2pm.

So I rang back at 2pm. It was engaged. I tried again 20 times, it was always engaged. I finally got through and was put in a queue. At 2.45 I spoke to the receptionist. I requested an emergency appointment. She said sorry, they have all gone, I’d have to try tomorrow at 8am.

At this point I pretty much broke down, saying I’d been on the phone for nearly an hour and a half today and still no sign of any appointment with a GP, and no guarantee I would get one this week, no matter how many times I rang back. I was in utter despair.

The slightly happy ending to the tale is that because I complained to her so much, she did pass a message on to the doctor, and I was rang later to tell me a prescription was ready to pick up. But no GP appointment, which is what I most need.

This is what the Government has done to the NHS thanks to its bug eyed focus on one single virus, a virus which has declined massively in the last four months. I pity those who are older than me and iller than me, this is a terrible situation with real human cost.

Btw, I live in Bath which, as far as I am aware, has had very, very few infections in the last months.

Public Hopelessly Misinformed About Covid Mortality

This is astonishing. An opinion pollster – Kekst CNC – has discovered that the people of Scotland believe that 10.23% of the UK population have died from coronavirus! That’s approximately seven million people, more than the entire population of Scotland (5.454 million). No wonder mobs of nationalists are setting up makeshift roadblocks on the English border.

Admittedly, Kekst only asked 89 Scots, so it’s a tiny sample, but the polling company asked 527 women across the UK the same question and they think that 9.91% of the population have succumbed to the virus. Men are less pessimistic – they believe 3.45% of the population have died – but the mean figure is 6.76%, or four-and-a-half million. And in the US, the mean is a whopping 9%! That’s twenty nine-and-a-half million.

This throws some light on why the British public has been so compliant with lockdown restrictions and are so keen on mandatory face coverings. (According to Kekst, 65% of the UK population is in favour of compulsory face masks in indoor public spaces.) They’ve effectively been completely terrorised by the Government and the mainstream media. Not bed-wetters, just hopelessly misinformed.

Needless to say, the real Covid death toll is <0.1% of the UK population.

Postcard From the Hague

A reader has been in touch to tell me about his recent trip to The Hague. Sounds heavenly.

I just returned from two weeks house-sitting in The Hague. The difference in atmosphere was jaw-dropping. Whilst there are some token rules (largely ignored), it is clear that the Dutch have not been subjected to anything like the kind of fear campaign that the Brits have. The city centres of The Hague, Rotterdam, and Amsterdam were all bustling and filled with lively outdoor and indoor bars cafes and restaurants, with no distancing or masks. I even attended three jazz gigs, one of which took place in a crowded bar in Amsterdam, and featured a legendary 85-year-old Dutch drummer who also happily chatted to me in close proximity afterwards without batting an eyelid. (I suppose he must be one of those old people who have decided to “keep on living”).

Returning to the UK involved a stern commandment to fill in the Government’s online form and present it at the border or risk a hefty fine. After descending the steps down to the car deck of the ferry back to Harwich behind a British woman adorned with plastic gloves, a face mask, AND a plastic visor over her head (I never saw any such thing in Holland of course), I then breezed through the passport control without any mention of the form, meaning I needn’t have bothered with it and had been merely convinced to comply voluntarily by the threat of a fine.

Now if so much as ONE person on the enormous half-empty ferry tests positive we will all be told to self-isolate, I suppose.

What’s Causing Excess Deaths in Homes?

There’s an interesting new blog post by Carl Heneghan and Daniel Howden at the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine about the high numbers of excess deaths in homes and what the likely causes are.

While the currently registered deaths in England and Wales have fallen below the five-year average for the last five weeks, excess deaths at home remain above average and high. Over 700 excess deaths per week – 3,799 in total reported in the home setting over the past five weeks. Only 179 deaths of these have mentioned COVID-19 on the death certificate.

It is not clear why there is such excess in the home. What is clear is that this represents a huge number of unexplained – and potentially avoidable deaths – particularly if they represent individuals deterred from visiting hospitals.

The number of deaths in the home setting are almost 50% higher than the total number registered with COVID-19 in any setting over the last five weeks (3,799 versus 2,582).

Individuals deterred from visiting hospitals. If that’s not the cause, I’ll be a monkey’s uncle.

The Telegraph wrote a news story about the paper yesterday.

Masks All Removed in Unison

Not wearing a mask, even on the deck of a boat in the open sea, can attract some ‘Paddington stares’

I’ve been sent an unusually upbeat email about a trip to the seaside from a reader who identifies himself as Charlie in Warwickshire.

Myself and family booked a 1hr Coastal Sea Cruise, last Sunday morning, to leave from a Harbourside in North Devon (obscure to protect the company). When we got there, we noticed that everyone in the queue had face masks on, which I thought was odd.

It was only then that we checked the booking that said “Face Masks should (note, should) be worn on all Cruises” which is strange for many reasons – outdoors, by the Coast and in the lovely sea air on a boat where you’re sat outside.

I had my exemption card in my lanyard and then went to the booking office to ask them about it. They saw my card and were really cool about things saying – no worries, just show to one of the crew.

Went back in the queue and my partner donned her ‘bandit scarf’ and my daughter didn’t have any covering as she’s under 11.
The people in the queue ranged from couples to families, all of them in masks (including, worryingly, a few kids under five) and quite a few were giving me their best ‘Paddington Stares’ even after scrutinising my exemption card.

So, got on the boat and no problems as I sat at the back of the boat, in the outside. Captain comes on and says “going to go through some Covid awareness points but I can tell you that your masks are not necessary as we’re out in the beautiful sea air and the risk is low”.

In unison, they all removed their masks like it was some sort of revelation and surprise! All it took was someone ‘in authority’ to issue some commands and they dutifully complied.

So it was both worrying and heartening to see the masks come off. Worryingly, because they were like drones being programmed what to do, despite all their instinct and evidence telling them it was unnecessary to begin with.

If people need to be told that a face mask is not required on a sea cruise, and can’t work it out to begin with, then I weep for the future.

Round-Up

Here’s a round-up of all the stories I’ve noticed, or which have been been brought to my attention, in the last 24 hours:

Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened

A couple of months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.

Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.

Forums Back Up and Running

I enjoy reading all your comments and I’m glad I’ve created a “safe space” for lockdown sceptics to share their frustrations and keep each other’s spirits up. But please don’t copy and paste whole articles from papers that are behind paywalls in the comments. I work for some of those papers and if they don’t charge for premium content they won’t survive.

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open. Initially, they became a spam magnet so we temporarily closed them. However, we’ve now found a team of people wiling to serve as moderators so the Forums are back up and running. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

Some “Mask Exempt” lanyards created by a reader

I thought I’d create a new permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard. The one featured above, or one very like it, is available for free here and has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here. The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And you can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from eBay here.

And don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here.

Shameless Begging Bit

Thanks as always to those of you who made a donation recently to pay for the upkeep of this site. If you feel like donating, however small the sum, please click here. And if you want to flag up any stories or links I should include in future updates, email me here.

And Finally…

Yesterday, I reported that a house cat had supposedly tested positive for the virus. A reader was reminded of this Simpsons episode in which a “secrete conclave of America’s media empires” dream up the next “phony crisis” and hit upon “house cat flu”. A case of life imitating art?

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Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
6 years ago

12 hours ago Chris Hume asked how things were in Ireland.

It is four hours ago I responded by saying:-

I’ll be braving a shopping trip to Dingle this morn – but venturing only into small shops which are limited to one or two customers at a time, while the friend I’m staying with shops at Lidl wearing a mask – a bit of a cop out I admit.

Here is my report.

The streets of Dingle look very normal. Few people wearing masks outdoors – circa 10%. but once in shops they seem to don them.

I ventured maskless in to five small shops. I had no problem in four of them. In two I was engaged in conversation as they know me. In one, however, I was refused service. The proprietor, who knows, me by name was sat behind a plastic shield and fully masked. A masked customer left as I approached the counter leaving me the only customer in the shop.

It’s the law you must wear a mask.

It would have been so easy for her to take the two items I had in my hand and the money I had ready. She’s lost trade and… Read more »

swedenborg
swedenborg
6 years ago

https://twitter.com/FrankfurtZack/status/1288707765574172672/photo/1
Austria’s new Law where you must wear masksMasks:Pharmacies,GPsurgeries,Banks,Bakeries,Butchers,Small general stores,Catholic churches,Mosques,Public Transport,Supermarkets,Petrolstation shops,Hospitals
No Masks: Hard ware stores,Clothes-Fashion Shops, Evangelic Churches,Museums,Restaurants
This is the scientific logical thinking of the young, charismatic Chancellor of Austria to keep the country virus free. Good luck.

Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
6 years ago

A whimsical thought struck me this morn – what if “the science” concluded that not wearing trousers would hamper the spread of the virus. I rather thinkover night we’d see men wearing sarongs and kilts

skipper
skipper
6 years ago

I’ve not worn trousers for the whole of the lockdown, only shorts, and we’ve had no COVID-19 in our household, family and friends, so you might be on to something here!

peter charles
peter charles
6 years ago

That’s an easy one: trousers wearing would become mandatory.

Kevin
Kevin
6 years ago

Morning, I need to go to the opticians and they’re saying I will be required to wear a mask, obviously I won’t be doing that but do the guidelines state that I should or is it like hairdressers where the client doesn’t have to?

peter charles
peter charles
6 years ago
Reply to  Kevin

Please try not to comply and then report back here.

A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
6 years ago
Reply to  Kevin

I went about 3 weeks ago. They wanted me to mask up but I refused and they reluctantly agreed. You could try a different optician, some seem to be more militant about it than others. Last time I looked opticians were not on the govt list of places where masks are required.

Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
6 years ago

I thought it had disappeared but they have started to talk about the ‘R’ rate again and here in the south west it could be above 1, shock horror, the apocalypse is upon us! It surprises me that everybody seems to accept these announcements without question, as if the powers that be sit round like Macbeth’s witches, eye of newt and toe of frog and out pops the R number never to be questioned.
It seems very hard to find out how they calculate this number and what has changed when it goes up or down? I get the feeling it is a more subjective process than they would like to admit. As it is, it seems just another factor that was supposed to be helpful but is actually being used to beat us. Why is nobody questioning the R rate business?

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago

2 anecdotes from Sturgeon land: think Kafka/Catch 22/ Great Leap Forward:

met an acquaintance recently who works at our much loved, but no longer accessible, local library.

Although the council website still claims that library services are closed until further notice, Sturgeon sanctioned reopening on July 15th.

Our conversation revealed the mad guidelines now operating: readers must now ring a general number-the library’s own number is out of action- to request a book.

However, reservations for titles from other libraries cannot be accepted and appointments must be made to appear at an agreed time to collect a book.

General access is still forbidden. The staff now fear that these arcane nonsensical restrictions will be used as cover for cuts to services and even closures.

The library here runs training classes for adults, free computer access,story sessions for very young children, exhibitions and various community groups.

It is widely used and has a marvellous DVD collection and the normal service is excellent.

The average reader is unlikely to be a plague ridden, vandal intent on a bit of antisocial behaviour in the crime section, so why are we not allowed entry?

Secondly, finally received an appointment by text from local beautician… Read more »

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

Might I make a suggestion re Libraries. Your new abnormal has seized libraries for the front line in the woking of our childrens minds.

Perhaps it is well lifraries remain closed if the below manner of physop is unleasted from them: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/books/lets-get-fabulous-edinburgh-libraries-welcomes-drag-queen-story-hour-2885341%3famp
The Edinburgh Libraries have booked the act again for next year. Yes Aida H Dee is as unfunny as it is unbelievable.

One Drag act has said openly that this is as sick as it seems since the scene of drag is ‘on the seedier side of ‘adult’.

But good news from Leeds – https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-leeds-53164255

Chris Hume
Chris Hume
6 years ago

I have seen a few Irish posters on here, and would like their view. What is the position there? I am from Irish stock, and have spent many childhood holidays amongst my cousins from Offaly and Carlow and held the passport long before it became fashionable. My experience was that they were the best bullshit callers ever. Surely they are laughing and ‘calling out’ this nonsense? The relations I have are more fixated with Brexit and the rise of SF, so not yet really engaging in this. Please tell me you are going to honour the Irish tradition!!!

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris Hume

There’s a letter from Northern Ireland on LDSs tomorrow page.

Chris Hume
Chris Hume
6 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Thanks. Look forward to reading that. As I say, in my experience the Irish are very good at spotting nonsense and crap a mile off and are very irreverent towards politicians and authority in general. Long years of experience of seeing where listening to ‘lies dressed up as almighty truth’ gets you. The Catholic Church being but the most recent example, I guess.

Will
Will
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris Hume

Not Irish by birth but by heritage, an active Munster rugby supporter and contributor to one of the fans forum many of whose contributors have become firm friends over the years. I tend to plough a lonely furrow, politically, on the forum as it is very left wing (intolerant of anything that doesn’t fit the group think) I posted a fair bit of sceptical opinion and was regarded as having two heads by many posters. I got the sense that a few people felt any deviation from locking down till kingdom come smelt of Anglo Saxon exceptionalism. I haven’t been on for a while as arguing with entrenched confirmation bias is a recipe for an aneurism.

Lockdown Truth
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris Hume

All I can say is my family are there and they are completely suckered. It’s like here. Obviously there are the dissenters we hear about but they’re totally duped.

Ned of the Hills
Ned of the Hills
6 years ago
Reply to  Chris Hume

Chris a chara,

I have been in Ireland for the last five months. Before mask wearing was mandatory I would say 25% of people were wearing then in Lidl in Dingle. But once the Toaiseach merely said they were to be Mandatory 90% were wearing them.

When that legislation came in force I was refused service in a village shop for not wearing one. Not been back since.

In a very remote country shop two days ago I was served by a poor girl that had to wear a mask (obligatory in Ireland unless they are behind a screen) – she didn’t seem to notice I wasn’t wearing a mask. But it is such a quiet shop it is possible that a lot of people pop in without one.

I’ll be braving a shopping trip to Dingle this morn – but venturing only into small shops which are limited to one or two customers at a time, while the friend I’m staying with shops at Lidl wearing a mask – a bit of a cop out I admit.

I’ll be noticing the mask wearing on the street of course.

It might be some comfort to you to know… Read more »

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago

https://thecritic.co.uk/face-masks-make-you-stupid/

Says it all.

Dare to bare; think for yourself.

Obviously we all do this, but most no longer do.

skipper
skipper
6 years ago

If masks work why isn’t the country back as it was pre-lockdown?

IMoz
IMoz
6 years ago
Reply to  skipper

Because back then science said they were useless, but now we have “the science” (perhaps some post-modern “this is what I feel it is” bastard child of science) that “says” they “might” work…

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  skipper

If masks work why is “The Masked Singer” such a shit show?

Why couldn’t the Lone Ranger see the tracks like Tonto did?

Why isn’t fencing more popular than football?

Why do brave people always refuse them when offered prior to execution?

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Fencing mask! Great idea.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
6 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’ve suggested wearing an adapted sieve.

Lockdown Truth
6 years ago
Reply to  skipper

Lol

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago

Had to leave my haven in the country to go back to the city for my grandmother’s funeral. While she didn’t die of Covid, the lockdown effectively killed her will to live. She was almost 101, so not tragic but I feel badly that her last month’s were so miserable. Our regional dictatorship has limited funerals to 20 attendees, etc., etc., which was fine, but the funeral home told my mother that the cemetery required the use of masks. Now this was a completely outdoor funeral and there is NO requirement to wear masks outdoors (yet). I was literally told that they could call the authorities and have me removed if I did not comply. So I e-mailed the cemetery after hearing their voice message “strongly recommending” the use of masks and asked for clarification. I cited the by-law and wanted their answer on the record as I believe this to be a human rights issue. Well, of course the masks are not mandated but I honestly don’t think anyone has ever pushed back on this nonsense. Even though I was told in writing that masks are not mandated, I was still accosted by a cemetery employee trying to push… Read more »

Mark
Mark
6 years ago

You’re right to be forthright and push back, Lisa. They can only get away with what they are doing because all too many go along to get along.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Thank you Mark, I’m beginning to see that. I’ve spent many a day in tears and with a lot of anxiety since the mask mandate. It’s much more empowering to be bitchy and pushing back than wallowing in misery.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago

I’ve mentioned several times here that demoralisation of the elderly through denied contact with loving family, through absence of visits by entertainers, petting animals etc and through being cared for by people previously known as friendly faces but now masked, must be raising death rates…possibly more than the virus itself…who can really tell?

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Another friend of the family who is at the same residence is also going downhill fast, especially cognitively. She says she’s bored and unstimulated. And this is a very high-end retirement residence with a hair salon, pool, computer room, etc. and they used to have lots of programs and special guests come in. My grandmother loved it there until the lockdown. A reporter from a local paper interviewed my mom for a story she wrote a while back and wants to talk to her again now that my grandmother has passed away. So at least some attention will be drawn to this issue. I do feel badly for the residence owners as they are between a rock and a hard place.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago

I don’t blame UK care staff at all. They understand the needs of confused or frail elderly people much better than hospital staff and generally are good carers. The problem here is government guidance and the general fear atmosphere which encourages care homes to adopt zealous attitudes.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Well, Canada has the distinction of being number 1 in the world at killing old people in LTC facilities. Some 80% of all our Covid deaths came from this population, so it’s hard to blame the owners for being so diligent with the lockdown, even though the residents have suffered terribly and continue to do so as they are nowhere near operating as they did before. The government-run homes fared terribly as they are underfunded and pack people in. My grandmother’s place was private and very high-end, though even they had a few Covid deaths despite being locked down at the end of February (they were quite early). It was the additional care workers that work part-time for residents and often work at multiple places that brought Covid into the facility. Eventually they were forced to pick one facility and could only work there, but the damage had been done.

DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
6 years ago

BBC are saying that the current self isolation time of 7 days is going to be extended to 10 days, in England.

We are only 19 weeks into the pandemic so we expect a few adjustments to the protocols.

Dart board planning at play here.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago

Obviously we are an embattled minority but I’ve been feeling a little bit more optimistic over the last few days. If the reality is we are living in a flatlining world, as seems increasingly likely (certainly as far as deaths go) then the opposition are going to have a hard time of it maintaining extreme fear levels.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Here is a lovely lilting Irish take on things. Putting across the same positive message amongst the gloom – and it is deep gloom. Several topics covered including gates looking panicked by the army of anti gates humans that are rising. A lovely bit of work emminently shareable:

https://youtu.be/LINSRUlsa54

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Yes, sounds like good stuff. I think he’s right in saying no one seriously believes that masks have a protective effect..,the significance lies in us adopting the marker. We’ve certainly seen this before with the national salute in Germany in the 30s and the obligatory use of “Comrade” in the Soviet Union. What is being sought here is our compliance.

RyanM
RyanM
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I have met a lot of people who sincerely believe that masks work. A lot. I also watched a baseball game last night and the announcers were believers. People just have a really hard time accepting the fact that they are being manipulated. And note that lancet article I asked about. People really do believe this stuff.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  RyanM

I imagine that everyone fronting mainstream tv would have to at least pretend to believe.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Ha Ha and if course it’s the skeptics who get the face recognition surveillance. Clever little buggers.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Dave Cullen, great guy surprised YouTube haven’t already cancelled him, following his bitchute too.

BJJ
BJJ
6 years ago

Anyone got the picture with flags and percentages of covid survivals someone had a couple of days ago?

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  BJJ

It was an Irish Freedom Party tweet I believe.

BJJ
BJJ
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Thanks, but can´t find it.

Offlands
Offlands
6 years ago
Reply to  BJJ

I have it, will post shortly as on laptop

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

The Chairman of the Technology Anti-trust investigation session in Washington today summarised by saying some of these four businesses need to be broken up.

These were concluding sentiments after several hourse of questioning by senators of Zuckerburg, Bezos, Cook and Pichai.

Apple, Amazon, Google and facebook told they are a monopoly and face being broken up under anti-competition laws. No involvement of Mircosoft, curious.

Quite extraordinary language, on the surface, with the caveat that these things frequently amount to nothing.

Aside from the LS related issues of corona/covid19 censoring on these information platforms the hearing makes it believeable that Gates’s global monopoly may well be also challenged, in time.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

The Republicans seem to really have the bit between the teeth now on this problem, which has been building for years but has become urgent because of the Presidential election. Consider Jim Jordan’s (ranking member on the House Judiciary Committee) comments about this (5:25):
Rep. Jordan sounds off on Democrats’ treatment of AG Barr at House hearing

DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

The link does not work.

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago
Reply to  DoubtingDave

Sorry, have a look at Tyneside Tigress’s below, same subject

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

Sorry ignore, have a look at Tyneside Tigress’s link below, same subject

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
6 years ago

Regarding not being able to see your GP; in my area it has been the case where you call in the morning for a same-day appointment for some time. If you don’t get one, you are advised to call the next day.

I just assumed they got paid more for always being able to see patients within 12hrs of asking for an appointment.

Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
6 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

No we dont get paid more for seeing patients within 12 hours. The problem has been for years trying to fit the demand in to the available working day. I have between 50 and 60 telephone appointments a day which after triage I see about a third in the surgery .

James Leary
James Leary
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

Is that just a catch-up from being unavailable to your patients, or too many patients in your practice? Genuinely interested, as either answer means ‘our’ NHS doesn’t work and needs urgent rectification.

Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
6 years ago
Reply to  James Leary

I have been available from the begining in mid March thanks . Ok I get it you are in the I hate my GP group. My average is 50 -60 calls a day to triage from a personal list size of 2,400. My day starts at 7.45 am and finishes at 7.15 pm. The last hour of the day is spent checking blood results and dictating letters.

Gillian
Gillian
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

I don’t think James is necessarily in the “I hate my GP group”, rather just genuinely interested in why you have such a phenomenal daily work rate. I’d be concerned for safety if I knew that any GP I was consulting was working 12 hours and fielding 50 to 60 telephone consultations per day and then seeing 20 or so patients that same day. This surely is not a safe way to practise medicine. I don’t believe that any GP in my own practice is working at this that rate. The practice is locked and bolted by 5.30pm apart from anything else unless they are all inside checking blood results but the doctors’ car park (which I can see from my window) is often deserted from 4pm except for perhaps one Range Rover a couple of times a week. For a group practice of 7 doctors (only 2 full-time) I believe that it is very unusual for more than one doctor to be on the premises after 4 pm.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  Gillian

I was criticised before on this subject for mentioning a fact (facts being dangerous): many, possibly most, female GPs don’t work full time. You aren’t really getting full value from training of GPs as a result. I’ve absolutely no problem with women choosing a good work-life balance but it clearly places strains on GP services.

Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

How do you think you can rectify that ? stop women studying medicine or have quotas ?

Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
6 years ago
Reply to  Gillian

I suggest you contact your Health Board in Scotland as GP services are contracted between 8 am and 18.00 . Here is the link for you.

https://www.mstrust.org.uk/a-z/nhs-uk

I think you have an axe to grind Gillian as I have noted before.

As to safe way to practice medicine how else do you think I can cope with the demand ?

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

I’m not having a go but it’s a fact GP surgeries in London basically closed down during the height of the Covid crisis which I think was shameful. People were essentially being advised to go to A&E.

Peter Thompson
Peter Thompson
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I can not comment on London . I doubt though that the surgeries closed completely.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

Thanks for the clarity, Peter.

Edit – this has never been an issue for me. Always managed to get an appointment when needed. Anything urgent and I would head straight for the walk-in centre in any case.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  Peter Thompson

Depends on the practise, I walk in and ask for an appointment (not fussed which Doctor) usually get seen within 24 hours, it’s a busy Surgery but I’m not a frequent user.
Last year i had a chest x-ray at the hospital in the late afternoon, my own GP was on the phone 07.30 the following morning to tell me all was well. Top Marks.

RyanM
RyanM
6 years ago

I thought I had read a few articles picking apart this lancet study as being junk science… but I cannot find them now that I’m looking. Anyone have any links for me?

Thanks!

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2931142-9

IMoz
IMoz
6 years ago

So just out on a whim I decided to see if there were any studies on plastic fibre aspiration (given that most “cloth” masks are actually polyester or polyester elastine mix)…

Found this recent one on ScienceDirect (paywall, but graphics isn’t paywalled) with a lovely lung tissue slide called “Microplastics in air: Are we breathing it in?” — https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2468584417300119
There’s also one called “inhaled Cellulosic and Plastic Fibres found in Human Lung Tissue” (graphic pictures!) in Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention 1998, Vol 7, 419–428 — https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9610792/

An even older one called “Respiratory disease caused by synthetic fibres: a new occupational disease” in Thorax (BMJ) 1975, 30, 204 — https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1179318/

And that’s a cursory 5 second search!

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  IMoz

Thanks for the research….I had also wondered about that. Presumably more microplastics are released as the same filthy mask is reused and kept in people’s pockets and handbags for months, so gradually fraying.

IMoz
IMoz
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I suspect once you stick it in your bag/pocket it would pick up loose fibres there and the nose-facing part is a convenient “scoop” to accumulate all those “just in the right place” until it’s right against your face…

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  IMoz

Yes think of it as a pathogen scoop!

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Oh happy days, snotty junkies in schoolboy pockets.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Snotty HANKIES

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
6 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

😀

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago

For anyone in the area, the KeepBritainFree Sussex group is getting together next week for chat/drink/meeting.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago

Totally impartial BBC presenter Emma Barnett is pushing the joys of masks on her twitter thread. Memo to Emma: mandatory masks are, to use a very BBC word, “controversial”. It’s not in your JD to take sides.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago

For anyone concerned about gloves, looks like you might be looking in the wrong direction:

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/dr-fauci-says-people-should-probably-use-eye-shields-protect-against-covid-19

Mrs Cameron, if you are looking in, you need to start designing those goggles!

matt
matt
6 years ago

Honest to god, at that point I’m going to start punching people.

NOTOKWITHTHIS
NOTOKWITHTHIS
6 years ago

Snorkels next.

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago
Reply to  NOTOKWITHTHIS

Welcome to clown world

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  NOTOKWITHTHIS

Full scuba gear. Wouldn’t even want to breathe the same air as others, despite being oxygen deprived from the face muzzle. Hey, it might be easier to breathe with an oxygen tank strapped onto your back than with a cloth mask!

Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago

Feels like they’re just trolling us now

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

They have been doing that here since Cummings’ preposterous Barnard Castle Defence. Some are enjoying the power trip a little too much. Others are just plain evil.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago

Ramping up the fear

swedenborg
swedenborg
6 years ago

https://twitter.com/plaforscience/status/1288516666721263617/photo/1
All are now interested in Spain and the increasing numbers of cases. According to the twitter and the comment the few deaths you see during the last 2 weeks are all elderly with co-morbidities.But you wouldn’t expect an increase in death already in the new surge and if it is according to rumours mostly young might only be very few deaths coming. Spain’s death statistics for Covid-19 have been criticized. Can’t vouch if twitter has reported correct data 100 %

RDawg
RDawg
6 years ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/29/lockdown-has-killed-21000-people-say-experts/

Almost 2,700 people a week have died because of the effects of lockdown, analysis of official data suggests.

The study by economists and academics from Sheffield and Loughborough universities suggests more than 21,000 people died as a result of the measures introduced in March.

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

But only COVID19 is on the list of unnacceptable ways to die.

These deaths were necessary as we must do everything we can to save just one life. All life is precious. Tell that to the families of COVID victims. blah blah blah.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

Blood directly on the hands of Johnson and his cabinet, and the opposition leaders who supported it, and moral complicity for all the coronapanickers who pushed it.

RDawg
RDawg
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

This should be front page news of every newspaper and the leading headline of every news channel.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

It’s been flagged on Sky as it is the lead article in the hard copy tomorrow. Paper review about to start

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago

Sorry, it’s not on the front page, my mistake.

Two-Six
Two-Six
6 years ago

wow.

Dianne Moran
Dianne Moran
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

I agree totally. Sick to the back teeth of the whole thing and not sure how much more I can take.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Agree completely Mark. Not sure what the average age of these poor souls is, but it sure as hell isn’t 79/80.

Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

What on earth will the hysterics who have been claiming every single ‘excess death’ so far this year was exclusively Covid-19 do?! First the dodgy counting revealed, now they gotta take 21k off their tally, soon they’ll discover the whole ‘notifiable disease’ malarky

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

It’s taken them bloody long enough so far.

Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

I think we got a long wait, judging by what I still see on social media & how I see people behaving, before any useful backlash. I’m no longer hopeful of an end to this before middle of next year, and even then it will quite literally be a ‘new normal’ of increased surveillance, some people never letting go of their comfort masks and a never ending threat of lockdowns for the tiniest winter flu blip.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

Mostly out of sheer bloody-mindedness, I refuse to agree with you. The wheels were clearly coming off (albeit slowly) pre muzzle day. We just need to keep plugging away.

Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

I really bloody hope I’m wrong too

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

I see a fragility in the lies. Truth is a big, round cast iron affair. This is akin to a snapped and broken game of Kerplunk!

PeteMate
PeteMate
6 years ago

Something amazing happened on the local BBC news this evening. I apologise for watching the MSM news, but in my defence i was round my mums, so she had TV Rights. Anyway, there was a outside broadcast from Southend pier. They were interviewing people about holidays etc. They spoke to a lass who had come down from Liverpool. Interviewer asked if she was worried about catching the virus/transmitting it/taking it back to Liverpool. Usual bed wetting BBC question. Her reply ” Not at all, I haven’t got it and I don’t know anyone else who’s had it since this all started” Almost choked on my dinner!! Can’t believe the BBC, of all people included her interview and didn’t edit out this reply…Priceless

Two-Six
Two-Six
6 years ago
Reply to  PeteMate

They will face-morph and voice synth her to make her say” Well my gran had it and died, a bloke down the road had it and died, I am shielding my Dad and I feel terrible for coming on holiday now you mention it, sorry, I will go home tomorrow”.

Wastch out for the re-run on BBC Breakfast.

DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
6 years ago
Reply to  PeteMate

I can see a BBC report negated to all the rubbish jobs for some time.

mjr
mjr
6 years ago
Reply to  PeteMate

but that is local news,,,,,,,,,, now if that was national news ….it would be news. all the same i dont know how that got past the censors

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  PeteMate

That’s what happens when they do a genuine vox pop instead of editing it before broadcast!

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
6 years ago

Great article from Julia Hartley-Brewer:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/holiday-fiasco-proves-fed-diet-junk/

The holiday fiasco proves we are being fed a diet of junk.New contradictory measures about travel to Spain and fighting obesity show the government is making it up as it goes along.

….the latest pronouncements from Number 10 suggest that, far from directing his Cabinet to create the sweet music of good government, Boris’s left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. And, frankly, I’d chance that it seems that what his right hand is doing sometimes comes as a complete surprise to his right hand too.

…. It’s also a bit rich for the Prime Minister, who we’ve seen photographed cycling and jogging every morning for years, to tell us to get on our bikes to lose weight when, with all due respect, it plainly hasn’t done the trick for him.

Unfortunately the comments make for very depressing reading – maybe 77th decided to have a party there.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Shame – the comments looked very healthy indeed when I looked at them this morning.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

I especially like the second most highly rated one, though:

‘Boris & his Government couldn’t organise a fart in a Mushy pea factory: they have totally lost the plot….and it is us paying the price.
Every step of the way they seem to have made wrong decisions ,from ‘experts’ to trying to manipulate the British people ‘for their own good’.
I have totally disconnected from them and ignore anything they say or do’

Humanity First
Humanity First
6 years ago

YouTube outlaws “contradicting” the World Health Organization
[“YouTube doesn’t allow content that spreads medical misinformation that contradicts the World Health Organization (WHO) or local health authorities”]

https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/29/youtube-outlaws-contradicting-the-world-health-organization/#comments

If true, You Tube has effectively become WHO’s mouthpiece …and WHO is the mouthpiece of its biggest donors (i.e. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and big Pharma)…

(Apologies if article has previously been linked)

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
6 years ago

More from Ross Clark:

By appearing in public flanked by scientific and medical advisers the Prime Minister has indicated he wants us to know that all his decisions are backed by science. But what difference might it have made if he had involved economists to anything like the same extent? 
True, economists have hardly bathed themselves in glory in recent years with their lousy predictions over Brexit and so on. But at least we wouldn’t have ended up where we are at the moment: with economic considerations smothered by the all-conquering aim of suppressing the number of new viral infections.

…. Whether there really is a second wave in Spain, or in any other European country, is debatable – while there has been a moderate upwards blip in new confirmed cases in Spain over the past four weeks there has not been the remotest sign of an uptick in deaths, of which just two were recorded on Tuesday. 



Ministers try to excuse the hurried change in the rules by saying that they were in receipt of dramatic new evidence of a second wave in Spain – evidence which seems to consist of 10 people returning from that country and testing… Read more »

DressageRider
DressageRider
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

well said!

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Unfortunately the pressure will be for COVID Zero which will be argued is the only way to avoid having to put any measures in place, other than controlling borders.

swedenborg
swedenborg
6 years ago

https://twitter.com/daniellevitt22/status/1287845863935455232/photo/1
This shows that mask wearing in China and Japan (pre Covid-19) did not have better outcome as regards flu deaths compared to non-mask wearing US and Germany (pre-Covid-19)Perhaps not surprising . Posted yesterday CDC May 2020 study that masks did not protect for influenza. Evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.Contrast that with Covid-19 at the moment not a single RCT is published no evidence. We are waiting for a Danish study not yet published but finished(the investigator just stated that he hoped that Denmark would not mandate masks, perhaps a hint of the result of the study??)
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

But the answer will be “it’s not ‘flu”.

It is, clearly, a completely new virus that behaves in ways we’ve never seen viruses behave before and our immune system reacts to it in ways our immune system reacts to no other viruses.

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

When they say this say “no it’s a common cold”. Seriously it works. Usually they laugh. Because somewhere deep inside, it lands.

DThom
DThom
6 years ago

Dirty Mask stories.
Take dirty screwed up mask from pocket and put it on. Pull it down to chin. Pull it up again. Fiddle with it and then touch items on shelves. Pull it down to speak. Pull it up again. Exit store and take it off quickly. Screw it up and place back in pocket.
I even saw someone in the High street pull mask down to cough then pull it back up. Ugh!

DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
6 years ago
Reply to  DThom

Yuk!

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  DThom

So it’s not alright to wipe your nose with it before chucking it in the gutter ?

DRW
DRW
6 years ago

I am feeling really anxious tonight about all this “second wave” stuff- we all know it’s rubbish but most don’t and I’m fearing all sorts.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  DRW

I think they will twist it into a series of spikes. They cannot get tge nations to collabourate as they had hoped to orchestrate a wave. At least that is my latest computer model based on what I see.

Perhaps try distracting yourself by going crazy and visiting the SNP twitter account @theSNP. I can’t really believe what I’m seeing there, so many sceptics – it’s cheering in a normal-people-are-seeing-through-this-now kind of way.

One beautiful reply is about a statement made by kate? Forbes? The one wot does the money in Scotland.

On @theSnp a reply is: “You cannot create jobs, babe. Any more than you can buy a shovel and expect it to dig it’s own holes.”

It’s just good to realise we are not alone by any means. We have a large silent majority as Simon Dolan said.

DRW
DRW
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

It’s whether that’ll be enough to stop more lockdowns or worse. That’s what really rattles me.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  DRW

I understand, it is sickening and these are nervy times, taking whatever action you want is a good way to stop feelings of helplessness. I am a great believer in humanity. We are many they are few. The brain washed will wake us – we are seeing that all around us.

The day where sturgeon asked fir volunteers to be vaccinated got her 350 odd replies. One of them:

“am a Gulf War Veteran. One third of GW Veterans are ill due to being forced to have vaccinations that had not been adequately tested and were unlicensed. I won’t be going within a million miles of this.”

There is a lot of fight on our side. A lot.

Actually – gulfwar syndrome hasn’t been mentiined at all during my days here on LS. It requires raising more often.

Sue
Sue
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

wasn’t there the issue also with the anti-malaria tablets give to soldiers also, think it was Larium and supposedly gave psychosis.

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Thankyou for mentioning it! I had no idea this was even a thing!
Is this because they were basically testing vaccines on soldiers?

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Farinances

A whole cocktail of mrdicines were administered. I believe the movie Jar Head cover this by one fast scene where each solider in line is given a pill. It was much more than that. Chemical weapons being assumed. It would be a good idea to search a little into it and post again. It is ceratainly a parallel to the situation now.

Bugle
Bugle
6 years ago
Reply to  DRW

I don’t think there will be any more general lockdowns. Jean Castex, the French Prime Minister, said there will not be another lockdown because “the economic and human consequences from a total lockdown are disastrous.”

As reported in the DT, Macron forced Boris into lockdown by threatening to close the Channel ports. So, if the French don’t have one, we won’t have to have one. Know what I mean?

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