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Anti-Mask Rally in Hyde Park

The Mail headline was “‘I will be not be masked, tested, tracked or poisoned’: Hundreds of anti-mask activists march on London’s Hyde Park to protest the mandatory use of face coverings in shops from Thursday”, but judging from a reader who attended yesterday’s rally there were no more than 250 there. It was organised by Keep Britain Free, Simon Dolan’s fledgeling political organisation, but Dolan himself wasn’t there. However, James Delingpole was and I will get a full download from him on the next episode of London Calling, mine and James’s weekly podcast, available later today.

We’re All Thought Criminals Now

Bari Weiss: Thought criminal

In my latest column for Spectator USA, I pay tribute to the people who’ve been ringing the alarm bells about cancel culture in America, including the 153 signatories of the Harper’s letter, and Bari Weiss, who recently resigned from the New York Times. (You can read the Harper’s letter here and Bari’s resignation letter here.) And I wrote this before the conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan was sacked by New York magazine. (You can read his farewell here.)

The Social Justice Left has, of course, rejected the suggestion that it has cancelled, or tried to cancel, any of its critics. How dare they?!? Pankaj Mishra, the Indian essayist, wrote a riposte in Bloomberg Opinion, arguing that the “privileges” of the whistleblowers invalidated their complaints.

Could it be that increasingly diverse voices and rich conversations are a threat to their free speech — more accurately, the prerogative of famous and powerful people to speak at length on all sorts of things without interruption or disagreement?

This is a standard counter-argument, but it’s an easy one to rebut. The Harper’s letter writers weren’t complaining about their own speech rights being endangered… but those of nonconformists in general. They were using their platform to highlight a problem afflicting people less well protected than they, particularly in the media, the academy and the arts. “Editors are fired for running controversial pieces; books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity; journalists are barred from writing on certain topics; professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class; a researcher is fired for circulating a peer-reviewed academic study; and the heads of organizations are ousted for what are sometimes just clumsy mistakes,” they wrote.

The other counter-argument, this one a bit more sophisticated, is that these public defenestrations aren’t an assault on the norms of a liberal society; rather, they’re an example of democracy in action. When the storm troopers of the left mobilise to get someone fired, they’re exercising their right to free speech. If the person does end up losing their livelihood, that’s just an example of them being held accountable for their views.

There are numerous problems with that position. First, the justice being meted out to these thought criminals is mob justice, with little or no due process. If someone is accused of being racist or transphobic, their employer rarely gives them a chance to defend themselves. Second, being held accountable often involves more than just losing your job. Was Professor Allison Stanger, who tried to prevent Charles Murray being no-platformed at Middlebury College and ended up in the emergency room, being held accountable? And third, canceling someone for having the wrong opinions, even if it just involves publicly shaming them, is not within the acceptable boundaries of conventional liberal discourse, however you dress it up. It stifles dissent, shuts down conversations and creates a climate of self-censorship.

I end by revealing that I’m setting up a US branch of the Free Speech Union – which is clearly much needed – and urge anyone who want to get involved to contact me here.

Worth reading in full.

Round-Up

No time for a proper update today, but here’s a round-up of all the stories I’ve noticed, or which have been been brought to my attention, in the last 24 hours (and a special thanks to Mitesh Kariah who has been tirelessly flagging up stories for me for months):

Theme Tune Suggestions by Readers

Only one today: “No Hope” by the Vaccines.

Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened

A couple of months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.

Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.

Note to the Good Folks Below the Line

I enjoy reading all your comments and I’m glad I’ve created a “safe space” for lockdown sceptics to share their frustrations and keep each other’s spirits up. But please don’t copy and paste whole articles from papers that are behind paywalls in the comments. I work for some of those papers and if they don’t charge for premium content they won’t survive.

Gone Fishin’

Thanks as always to those of you who made a donation in the last 24 hours to pay for the upkeep of this site. If you feel like donating, however small the sum, please click here. I’m in Italy until Saturday, July 25th and won’t be doing much work on this site for a week (although I will try and do a rudimentary daily update). If you want to flag up any stories or links I should include in tomorrow’s update, email me here.

Salem 2.0

I thought I’d give my readers something to chew on while I’m on holiday: Salem 2.0: The Return of the Religious Police to the Public Square. This is a book about cancel culture that I’ve been working on for a while now, but which took a back seat during the coronavirus crisis. Hoping to get back to it as the crisis recedes – although that’s happening more slowly than any of us hoped. It’s a work in progress, so don’t expect too much.

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Basics
Basics
6 years ago

Oxford scientist: Impossible to say how many shots of the vaccine each age group would need
Prof Andrew Pollard, of the Oxford Vaccine Group, said it was impossible to say yet how many shots of the vaccine each age group would need to be given to gain and then maintain levels of coronavirus immunity.

Speaking at a webinar organised by the Science Media Centre, he said: “We have seen encouraging response with one dose.

“But in the small subgroup that you see in the Lancet paper, there are better responses with two doses – that is not totally unexpected.

“We know that human populations are completely naive to this virus and so you need quite a heavy lift in order to get a really good immune response from this vaccine, which is what we are trying to achieve with the two-dose schedule.”

He added the team would be closely evaluating the immune responses in older age groups to see if two doses gives stronger protection than one

From edinburgh live.

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I suppose he (Pollard) might be a seriously brave chap, admitting all this malfeasance, and under his real name too.

DanClarke
DanClarke
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

They can’t possibly have any independent thinking when they are having billions pumped into their ‘research’ by ‘foundations’

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago

Does anyone agree with me that the Prime Minister looks a bit, well, mad.

Athanasius
Athanasius
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I don’t know if he looks it, but if by their fruits ye shall know them, he is a stark raving loon.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Bozo and Dom didn’t get Covid just a bad acid trip after watching 28 Days + 28 Weeks Later back to back.
Could someone tell them they are just pretend ?

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
6 years ago

Stockholm Syndrome – My addition/emphasis below. I’m now convinced that this is a genuine condition. There’s no other way to explain the destruction/devastation of everything we thought was normal and for people to then thank those who caused it for saving them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Stockholm syndrome has been defined as a condition in which hostages develop a psychological alliance with their captors during captivity. Emotional bonds may be formed between captor and captives, during intimate time together, but these are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims.

Stockholm syndrome is a “contested illness” due to doubt about the legitimacy of the condition. It has also come to describe the reactions of some abuse victims beyond the context of kidnappings or hostage-taking. Actions and attitudes similar to those suffering from Stockholm syndrome have also been found in victims of sexual abuse, human trafficking, terror, and political, religious oppression and Coronavirus interventions.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Aren’t we “all in this together”? (sarcasm). It’s absolutely Stockholm Syndrome.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago

That Tom Bradby guy on News at Ten is v annoying. A “complete drip” as my wife calls him – a woke warrior who stays awake at night worrying (he’s bored the rest of us to sleep with tales of his insomnia). He declares that progress on the Covid vaccine will be greeted by all with great joy. Not so Tom. Some of us believe such vaccines are creating opportunities for novel pathogens and that one day as a result we might find ourselves facing a truly deadly virus – far, far worse than this Covid kitten. Tom’s jingoistic talking up of the Oxford vaccine failed to disguise the fact that the actual report that followed was so laden with caveats, exemptions and limitations as to resemble the text of an insurance policy.

James Bertram
James Bertram
6 years ago

Any chance of giving these falsehoods more exposure, Toby?

‘…We want to give people more confidence to shop safely, and enhance protections for those who work in shops.
Both of these can be done by the use of face coverings. Sadly, sales assistants, cashiers and security guards have suffered disproportionately in this crisis.
The death rate of sales and retail assistants is 75% higher among men, and 60% higher among women than in the general population. So as we restore shopping, so we must keep our shopkeepers safe….’
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/face-coverings-to-be-mandatory-in-shops-and-supermarkets-from-24-july

Good analysis: https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2020/07/fact-checking-matt-hancocks-figures-on-covid-deaths-among-shop-workers-analysed-.html

My comment:It seems Hancock has deliberately misled parliament, and should be made to apologise to the House. 
The survey lists by registered occupation those who died between 9 March and 25 May. 
[Too, of use: ‘The US Bureau of Statistics – labour force statistics from the current population survey’ gives a good breakdown of numbers occupied in different retail categories – The UK will be similar.]
Over this period MOST shops were closed. Thus the VAST MAJORITY of those retail workers who were registered as dying of Covid-19 over the period of the survey COULD NOT HAVE CAUGHT THE VIRUS AT THE WORKPLACE. 
(Or are we to believe… Read more »

Lockdown Truth
6 years ago

Just noticed this in the Telegraph…

Two articles on the site at the same time…

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Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Truth

They should ask all 76% who said they support it the simple followup question of ‘why?’ and if they couldnt back up their position with scientific justification their answer should be thrown out.

RickH
RickH
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

I always resort to A L Mencken’s cynicism whenever I see displays of the ‘wisdom’ of crowds being used to justify the promotion of idiocy.

Anonymous
Anonymous
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

They should ask all those who support them whether they already are wearing masks. I suspect there wouldn’t be very many, judging by the amount of mask wearing I am seeing lately — conclusion: they support masks, but only for other people.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

Their answer would be that their pal Boris recommends it and the BBC says it’s necessary.

Charles
Charles
6 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Truth

A referendum would sort this out……

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Charles

Sly brain here thinks why two? Why not three? Two actively causes confusion. Destabilising.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Truth

You should repost that today since not many will see it here now.
Comes to something when the Telegraph misrepresents it’s own survey.
A couple of years back they ran an item about an Auz beach bar having a promotion featuring serving seafood directly from the bodies of female models (several pics of said contorted ladies).
The accompanying poll declared 90% in favour. The Graph still had a sense of humour then.

sinopeguy
sinopeguy
6 years ago

Look, I’m not the brightest on here, however even I can appreciate masks have no scientific/ medical benefit in the relatively open spaces of Tesco etc. As a resident of the Scottish part of our nation, I can tell you I have not worn anything on my face on visits to shops, malls etc. No one has said a word. I studiously distance from others and nothing, NOTHING has happened. Including death and plague. The biggest disappointment is with those who agree the whole thing is bollocks etc, AND THEN CONTINUE TO PUT ON A FACE COVERING down the Tesco/ Waitrose just to be safe, avoid confrontation, what harm can it do etc. Please, if you believe the mask thing is bollocks, follow it through. It’s quite scary at first, however the Masked are not aghast, rather they display the unfulfilled wish to follow suit in most cases .. Tis only by leading by example we can expect others to follow!

Charles
Charles
6 years ago

‘The Vaccine’

0810 Today Programme interview was with head of govt vaccine task force. It sounded somewhat like a spoof.

Develop vaccine to combat a mutating virus that has never been precisely isolated.

Design vaccine to lessen symptoms, but not to prevent infection (or, presumably, transmission).

Write up vaccine as a roaring success when recipient fails to die.

Then, Justin Webb teed her up for the big one by asking what would happen if a significant number of people refuse the vaccine.

Answer; we would have to remain in lockdown.

Worth listening to as it is one of the least well baked plans cooked up so far, and that’s saying something.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Charles

Plan for yearly boosters. A rolling payday is more effective than a single hit.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
6 years ago

Just found an email from the CEO of Aldi, doing an update on their “safety” measures.

I found this bit encouraging:

It has been heartwarming to see customers remembering that not all disabilities and health conditions are visible, and being considerate of others who may not be able to socially distance or wear a mask.

I reckon that’s a green light for us!

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

The logic of mask wearing:

“Wear a mask, you might kill somebody otherwise.”
“What if I have a disability/health condition that makes me exempt?”
“That’s ok, kill away.”

Kath Andrews
Kath Andrews
6 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

It’s all bollocks. I will never never wear a muzzle. Bit apprehensive and imagining situations where I may be confronted with violence. Wearing a muzzle is mandatory in Wales next Monday, I will not be wearing one.

Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago
Reply to  Kath Andrews

Only on public transport (for now) Kath, not in shops etc… unless something has changed and the CMO caved on his very firm position on this already.

Edit : I don’t mean to be flippant saying ‘only only public transport’ – any mandatory mask wearing is a disgrace, but at least, for now, it is only on public transport which hopefully you can just avoid.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

Yes…not being to buy food takes it to a totally different level.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

“What if I’m attending a largely violent Far Left protest?”

“You’ll be wearing a mask anyway, so no problem. “

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Please report on aldi visits. Was my encounter with door mask thug a one off?

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Our local Aldi has been relaxed throughout. Apart from very annoying recorded messages, that is.

DoubtingDave
DoubtingDave
6 years ago

Journalist Sam Sholli interviews people in the North London suburb of Mill Hill.

I find this non MSM journalism interesting.

https://youtu.be/y3h3f2oL8Xs

kbeanie
kbeanie
6 years ago

Another article I can’t read as it’s behind the paywall, but this opening says enough:

‘Officers too busy to deal with calls about masks unless violence or disorder involved, Devon and Cornwall commissioner says’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/20/police-force-says-will-not-respond-calls-shoppers-refuse-wear/

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago
Reply to  kbeanie

That seems pretty much to be the stance across the board. The police IMO have more pressing cases that they are attending to – rise in domestic violence, stabbings, increase in crime brought about by drug and alcohol abuse, etc.

Ambwozere
Ambwozere
6 years ago
Reply to  kbeanie

There’s a picture too in which it states that 19% of people oppose masks in shops and 67% are for wearing masks in shops. I’d love to know who they asked!

Charles
Charles
6 years ago
Reply to  Ambwozere

Indeed. It might be reasonable to assume that, if over two thirds of people are in favour of wearing masks in shops, more than 1% of them would have been doing so already.

microdave
microdave
6 years ago

If anyone is visiting the Norfolk Broads I suggest you pay a visit to the Post Office & stores at Ranworth Staithe – assuming you can find a parking or mooring spot, that is! I had to wait for some time to get an ice cream, as there were lots of people and children ahead of me. I didn’t see any obvious Anti-Social Distancing signs, and most folk were being sensible anyway. I also didn’t see any muzzles, although many of the kids were wearing life vests, which is understandable if they’ve just arrived by water.

After the shop had quietened down I was able to have a few words with the owner, and asked if I would have to wear a muzzle should I came back next weekend. He gruffly replied “It’s not my job to enforce – that’s a police matter”. I pointed out that it’s civil law and they can’t take action in any case. He said “Good, the only time I see them here is when they want to hassle me”. He said that trade the last couple of weeks had been “Manic”, which is good, although he said he won’t recoup the losses of… Read more »

Two-Six
Two-Six
6 years ago
Reply to  microdave

I am out of the town centre for the next 4 months.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  microdave

Thanks for the civil law point. You’ve clearly got that across to me. Police do criminal law not civil law. Thanks.

matt
matt
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Be really careful. There is a difference between civil law and criminal law, but I’m not at all sure that any claims that the police can’t enforce the former are true. I’ve no doubt at all that the police _could_ enforce the wearing of masks if they chose to and that they could legitimately impose fines and arrest you for refusing to give your details if they chose to. I strongly suspect that they won’t bother and I think it’s still more likely that you could just saunter off between the police being called (if they’re called) and the police arriving (if they arrive), but please make sure you’re completely happy that you’ve understood the enforcement situation for yourself before you rely on this.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

Quite happy no police will be going anywhere. My comment relates to a previous chat. Criminal and legal (civil) law. It appears to me strange a constable can give a fine – perhaps a police officer can. Its not going to be happening in any case. But the academic side is interesting, the use of the police ‘brand’ is being used to give power to social shamers. But just how a police constable can work within civil law is interesting. I wish I had this tied down. Thank for concern matt. Really though, no one is being lifted or fined.

Irony is I supposed that folk who are calling mask wearers scared of an exaggerated scare are themselves falling for another. Think there’s some merit in that thought and not too much abuse!

Bella
Bella
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

As far as I understood it masks wearing is law and not guidance so if they were bloody-minded enough the Old Bill could arrest you.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Bella

Civil – police officer
Criminal – police constable

Its better to leave this comment for next week since people may get worried by such talk.

In reality no one is going to even see a police man except if there’s a life sized sticker in the shop window telling you not to steal.

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I don’t think there is any such distinction.

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Quite. What you smokin’, Basics ?

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago
Reply to  microdave

Civil law? I don’t think so? The fines might be outside criminal law, more like parking and speed fines…but they are surely part of public law not civil law.

Unless you are determined to be a mask martyr surely either an exempt badge or a loose fitting scarf that can be lifted over the nose temporarily are better strategies than escalating confrontation?

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Nah, escalate the fuck out of them.

Steeve
Steeve
6 years ago

Can I recommend the LEPARK Nylon Mesh Dog Muzzle with Overhead Strap for Small,Medium and Large Dogs, Prevent Biting, Barking and Chewing. Now corona virus resistant Tested in Imperial kennels by the local Lab. Pack reviewed all good.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

Vernon Coleman has made an extraordinary contribution to humanity and reason throughout this torture. His latest contribution is a 30 minute retelling of what we have all endured since February. With so much happening daily that day of 500,000 to die in UK and 2.2 million to die in U.S. seems a long time ago. A very easy to listen to recap of just what has gone on. Perhaps one of Vernon’s most powerful videos.

Vernon Colman’s latest:
https://youtu.be/EhYX8RzyMC4

sue
sue
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

He seems to have a large following with 125k subscribers on Youtube. He tells it straight which I like!

MrPudgy
MrPudgy
6 years ago
Reply to  sue

His subscribers have gone up from 79k to 126k in the last few weeks, which is really encouraging.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  sue

I like the genuine aspect too. I am aware of his criticism as he is too. He’s a far sight more trustworthy than any creature you need to pay a license to watch!

He’s growing too.

Uk column suggested the skeptic side needs to get hundreds of thousands in support to effect any change to what is going on. 125k is a freaking good job by one man. He deserves to be shared.

karenovirus
karenovirus
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Been top of my YouTube feed for some weeks now.

DRW
DRW
6 years ago

Went into Bristol today for the first time this year. Worried it’d be a zombified
muzz-hell but pleasantly disproven. Noticed more headphones than masks-
only about 10% had the latter and they mainly seemed to be the old (and possibly vulnerable). Stopped for a while in a park and found plenty enjoying the good weather. Most were young adults sharing stories and laughs, whilst a few older people were reading and sipping drinks. No swerving, not even from the masked minority passing by. What an uplifting experience in these dark times.

BecJT
BecJT
6 years ago

Call for evidence, deadline tomorrow https://appgcoronavirus.marchforchange.uk/

“Call For EvidenceWe aim to ensure that lessons are learned from the UK’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak so that the UK’s response and preparedness may be improved in future

The All-Party Parliamentary Group is calling for evidence to be submitted to inform its recommendations to the UK Government. All evidence received will be reviewed, and submissions of particular interest may be followed up with an invitation to submit oral evidence.”

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
6 years ago
Reply to  BecJT

Is this preparedness for the second wave by any chance?

DanClarke
DanClarke
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Is the 2nd wave that they are confident is going to happen because they know how many people have had treatments delayed or stopped and could now be fatal because of their neglect. and protecting the NHS

BecJT
BecJT
6 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

No doubt, I still used it to give them both barrels.

DanClarke
DanClarke
6 years ago

Anyone feel like they are losing it. The thought of rags blocking mouths and noses is horrendous, think I have a real phobia. Why are they doing it, how are all the politicians in the world, complicit. How has the Pharma industry got such a hold??

watashi
watashi
6 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I’ve also felt unsettled and upset the past few days at the thought of it. No need for all this nonsense.

DanClarke
DanClarke
6 years ago
Reply to  watashi

I think its partly because we don’t know what’s going on. The mortality rates are low worldwide but they are ruining lives and economies and no one seems able to stop it. Who are the people with so much power?

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I believe calling it torture helps. Give it a name and understand what it is takes some of its power.
https://youtu.be/3yk3xezML8Q
Is a step by step look at the mechanics of this torture. It is uplifting towards the very end, honest!

I’ve shared the link before here several times. I hope it is helpful.

DanClarke
DanClarke
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Thanks I’ll look at that. Its a new feeling for me, never having had a job or anything where I’ve needed my face covered. I’m booking shopping and don’t intend going anywhere if a mask is required

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Sigh. Little green aliens from Alpha Centauri …

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago
Reply to  watashi

There will be some unusual and possibly unsettling vibrations emanating from people wearing masks, who underneath feel the same way we do.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I think I have a phobia as well. Not being able to breathe properly is very disconcerting to me (to say the least) and seeing people all around me wearing them gets me very anxious and agitated. The closest I have ever been to feeling anything remotely like this is being stuck in a middle seat of an airplane for too long — but that’s “only” a physical issue and not a psychological one. I’ve been ordering more online and my husband is willing to spare me by going out and doing the shopping. I’ve also moved from our city place to our country home on 60 acres so I don’t need to be around other people. This county was great until they mandated muzzles last Friday, a day which registered ZERO cases. There had been one active case for a while, and now we’re down to zero which somehow they’ll spin as a “masks are a miracle” story. So I feel for you and just want you to know you’re not the only one who feels like they’re losing it!

DanClarke
DanClarke
6 years ago

Thanks Lisa, it does help to know about all of those who feel the same, its a sort of claustrophobia, but worse, having something clamped over your face doesnt bear thinking about.

Two-Six
Two-Six
6 years ago

I find it so sad that people wear them, they are totally useless and will make people ill. Covering up your face is just totally anti-human, what it does to inter personal communication is devastating. It totally kills me these people are just….insane. literally.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago

Nothing to do with your Dear Leader’s spot of trouble?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-trudeau-a-no-show-in-house-after-saying-he-would-answer-questions/

Of course, our own Dear Leader is not out of the woods yet:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52755473

Guys like this won’t waste a crisis, nor will their handlers allow them to!

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago

That’s not all of our dear leader’s trouble. He’s also got himself tied up with another self-dealing scandal. But of course nobody’s all that concerned about corruption or the suspension of parliament because they’re too busy wetting themselves over the virus and virtue-signalling by depriving their brains of oxygen!

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago

Wayhay ! 60 acres ! We can all go and live at Lisa’s place. 🙂

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

30 of those acres will be full of grizz and the other 30 full of fear….

Jealousy talking!

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

It’s been my sanity. If I’m going to be caged like an animal, I can’t complain about my cage! We’ve got hiking trails so I’m trying to stay in shape and get lots of fresh air. No bears, but lots of deer. July is my least favourite month because of the insects, but I’ll take insects over sheeple any day.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

It sounds likexan ideal we all woukd like. Two thumbs down don’t understand dry humour. I would be very at home putting up a smudge and enjoying the tranquility.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

No muzzles allowed and no social distancing!

CarrieAH
CarrieAH
6 years ago

I feel the same Lisa. I nearly drowned some years ago and a mask somehow gives me the same feeling. My adrenaline goes through the roof, heart hammers, and I get really panicky. At a push I can just about use a bandana, but I have to fly this week which will mean using a full mask whether I like it or not. I’ve checked with the airline – Jet2. I’m already in a cold sweat at the thought of a mask for hours in the air. As if flying isn’t stressful enough at the moment. I can only imagine what the energies at the airport are going to feel like too – sinister, helpless, uptight.

BecJT
BecJT
6 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Yes, after my dog had to be put down and had a panic attack and screamed at the masked vet, that was me over the edge. I then proceeded to get very drunk on red wine twice in a week, and then gave myself a slap. I’ve turned off the news, radio etc. I scan the papers, check in here and I’ve installed an app on my pc that blocks social media and unistalled apps on my phone. I spent the whole day outside yesterday strimming nettles, looking after our menagerie of animals and pulling ragwort (toxic weed to horses). I’ve been going to bed early, getting up at six, walking the dog, reading, doing a guided meditation, and now feel semi sane. It’s my contempt that is doing me in, I am just disgusted with it all, felt like I was going round the bend.

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
6 years ago
Reply to  BecJT

Good work, Bec.
Gotta look after yourself first before you can give support to the rest of us!

PS – only drunk twice in a week shows severe self-discipline in these times 😊

CarrieAH
CarrieAH
6 years ago
Reply to  BecJT

I’m like you Bec. I have horses, some sheep and a couple of goats on my own smallholding and they are my saviours. I don’t watch live tv or the news or listen to radio. I watch only Prime or Netflix. I spend my time on my land with my animals. I come on this website to feel sane and to know I’m not alone, but I have been losing it mentally. I get so depressed and tearful at what the world has become over a stupid virus. I can hardly believe it. I have a cabin on the smallholding and stay there as much as I can.

HelzBelz
HelzBelz
6 years ago
Reply to  BecJT

Another horse person here! I was at an event last weekend – horse fell and needed to be attended to by vet. Vet appeared in mask. Horse went bonkers. Horses and dogs smarter than your average human!

Lyndsay Hopkins
Lyndsay Hopkins
6 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

It does feel like the world has gone mad. I feel like I am living in a parallel universe. I can’t believe the government are making face masks mandatory and that people are going along with it without questioning anything. The virus has all but gone. I’m not wearing one and won’t go in a shop. I will be buying everything online.
Tonight on Facebook,Yarm news which is run by bmt media I think posted that nobody should try and go into a shop in Yarm from Friday without a mask. It’s just awful. They didn’t mention exemptions or anything.
i complained to my local MP and he came back with the we wear a seat belt line and people wear motorbike helmets. Is this the standard line Conservative MPs are supposed to take?I am just so sick of the attempts of bullying and shaming of people to try and get them to conform to what is completely abnormal. There was enough division and nastiness with Brexit and now through direct government action they have caused it again. When is this nightmare going to end?

RickH
RickH
6 years ago

I’ve just been watching the latest instalment of the documentaries on Iraq.

Although a different setting, we again have corporate interests,the establishment and big money backing a myth (WMDs instead of a VMD) and exaggerating a problem so that it becomes an unholy disaster.

The main difference is that this time, the war is waged on domestic populations.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

Both the seat belt and the motorcycle helmet have been designed to allow breathing. A seat belt would clearly be more effective if it had a mask element that caught your head and prevented whiplash. Your MP is a lunatic.

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago

Taxi drivers do not have to wear seat belts.
Sikhs do not have to wear bike helmets.

Should you be considering talking to your MP again. 🙂

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
6 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

If you have to wear a mask for any reason, get one with a strip of metal on the top (bit like an underwire in a bra). This way you can simply bend the wire out away from your face so the mask sits like an open cup allowing you to breath. To a casual observer it looks like a regular mask being worn.

Mark Wayne
Mark Wayne
6 years ago

To add to Toby’s Italy update from yesterday: I’ve just arrived in Calabria with my wife and son and it’s great. Some signs up but minimal covid measures – apart from there being barely any other foreigners it feels pretty normal. Teenagers flirting, tables full, everyone happy. Unless you go to a bigger shop almost all do not wear masks. Would definitely recommend! Certainly more than Spain which sounds like a covid measures hellhole at the moment.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Wayne

It is. Both sons are there at the moment and everyone is wearing masks. You don’t have to when eating/drinking at a restaurant but have to put the mask on when you go to the bathroom. You don’t mess with the Guardia Civil (remember Barcelona referendum protests).

JohnB
JohnB
6 years ago

Hmm. When 70.000 Scousers took over central Madrid last year, we had very few problems. 🙂

Brian D
Brian D
6 years ago

And just when you thought it couldn’t get any sillier … er actually no-one thinks that now … The Telegraph is reporting this:

New rules from England Athletics will see female runners banned from participating in 5km competitions as their slower race times mean they stay in contact with other runners for too long.

In the reading it appears it is top level competition they’re talking of so we’re not even talking parkrun but as men can run the 5k under 15 minutes and apparently women can’t they will spend more time around their competitors so will obviously breathe all over each other etc. They’ll be allowed to race shorter distances though.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/19/woman-told-cannot-run-5k-races-will-contact-others-long/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=CampaignMonitor_Editorial&utm_campaign=LNCH%20%2020200720%20%20Lloyds%20%20SM+CID_2c153324104ee560a1188435f9cf4068

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  Brian D

Surely genderist by croni. I want the job of timing corona transfering from one athelete to another while in long distance run. Sounds to me like a job for algebra. I imagine you would also need a pub, a lot of boredom and a lack of education to do the calculations justice. I have them all.

I wonder if women promise to breathe every second breath racing could commence.

I joke, but the deliberate nonsense of their rules is an attack on our minds. Give me a more plausible answer.

skipper
skipper
6 years ago
Reply to  Brian D

Isn’t the answer to this to take more steroids, then they will easily be under 15 minutes!

jrsm
jrsm
6 years ago
Reply to  Brian D

I suppose someone who can run 5k in close to 15 minutes is certainly not dying of COVID, and so is extremely unlikely to spread it?

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago

Like the idea of a surcharge. What about a special Covid 19 service charge?

Offlands
Offlands
6 years ago

This is what we are up against:

https://twitter.com/MichaelVinsen/status/1284773819350163458

A new one I heard today – Mask it or casket! FFS

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  Offlands

And this disgraceful article from Mrs Piers Morgan:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/anti-vaxxers-selfish-lives-shouldnt-put-conspiracy-theorists/

They have certainly got the attack dogs on the comments section, which are not exactly supportive of her fluff piece!

TJN
TJN
6 years ago

An absolute piece of shit. Unbelievable. To go with a few other pieces of shit from the Telegraph recently. I thought the muzzle etiquette article of a few days ago was about as low as they dared go, hopefully the nadir of Telegraph sucking up to No 10 – but this is worse.

And about what you’d expect from Mrs Piers Morgan.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I thought this was her killer comment:

‘what differentiates adults from children is our ability to assimilate all the information out there – the historical facts, science and statistics – and use those things, along with our logic, to form intelligent judgements. It’s called informed consent, and it can take a moment. Anti-vaxxers of any kind, however – from the 14 per cent identified in this survey, to the estimated 7.4 per cent and rising in the UK (that’s one in 30)’ – perhaps she didn’t have the calculator to hand when she tried out percentages! … until I read this:

‘if the plan is to kill us all off, why wouldn’t the government be letting a virus that has already successfully eliminated 6 million people worldwide’ – but she can’t even read numbers off a website!

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

6 million is an echo from the past. Isn’t that a very interesting mistake to make. Isnt that a dearly crooked way to chase a message secretly into the synapses of the population. An echo from the past…

TJN
TJN
6 years ago

It takes a rare combination of arrogance and ignorance to write an article like that. Perhaps her husband lent a hand.

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
6 years ago

Lots of comments on the piece – almost all negative (including mine!).
Long may she keep writing – crap journalism makes the case less arguable.

Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago
Reply to  Offlands

I think the most depressing thing about that is the amount of replies saying ‘brilliant’ and ‘genius’, it highlights just how low the bar is for these people. It’s no wonder they lap up the propaganda when they consider this genius.

Offlands
Offlands
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark II

Couldn’t agree more. Utterly depressing

tonyspurs
tonyspurs
6 years ago

I haven’t laughed so much for ages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvF0Bhr9O80&feature=share

Londonista
Londonista
6 years ago
Reply to  tonyspurs

Very funny thanks for the link!

Offlands
Offlands
6 years ago

It’s from the beginning of it all and has a bit of a virtue signalling message but funny nonetheless:

Covid Rhapsody – https://youtu.be/8KPbJ0-DxTc

Linda Bennett
Linda Bennett
6 years ago

I am completely opposed to masks – but did not know about this protest – where is the information where and when they are taking place?

TJN
TJN
6 years ago

Can’t you put up a sign outside saying ‘Mask exempt welcome’?

A bit provocative, and you probably don’t want the hassle, but it would be a nice touch.

TJN
TJN
6 years ago
Reply to  TJN

‘Straws are available for customers wearing masks’

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

Sky news footage showing the human trials being jabbd for the trial vaccine from Oxford Uni. Each human trial was slim, young one 45 max others 25-35. All notucably healthy in appearance.

Lili
Lili
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

It wouldn’t surprise me if the whole thing was just theatre for the masses.

GetaGrip
GetaGrip
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Sounds like the right target group for the vaccine.
Maybe just need to splice it with some valium and they’ll finally relax enough to get back to work.

skipper
skipper
6 years ago
Reply to  Basics

They have to be that way for Stage 1 trials. It because they will have the best chance of surviving any side effects.

Other ages, those with different BMIs, and those who have tested positive for C19 will be part of Stage 2 and 3 trials.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  skipper

They are also running trials in South Africa, Brazil and India (?) so that should cover various ethnicities and different genetic profiles.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago

I didn’t hear India but there is a third country. The USA is going to have a British trial, possibly Oxfords trial or maybe another.

Basics
Basics
6 years ago
Reply to  skipper

Gotcha. Would not like to have a underlying condition with this on the horizon.

Julian
Julian
6 years ago

Sorry, being thick here, any idea how to insert an image without getting an error saying the input is too large?

Offlands
Offlands
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Have you signed in? I have found adding images works best when signed in.

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  Offlands

Thanks for that. In the end the option I needed to choose was “attach as an image to this comment” – bottom right icon in the input box. Rather than pasting it in to the body of the comment.

Awkward Git
Awkward Git
6 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Can someone put it on Simon Dolan’s twitter please?

I don’t have an account.

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

They obviously need bigger masks

MiriamW
MiriamW
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

or to stop calling positive tests ‘cases’?

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW

If another casual acquaintance says to me “oh, there are a lot of cases in X today” I might just punch them. These are people with 120+ IQs with access to information who just read shit in the news and parrot it out and move on with their lives, and contribute to screwing up the planet. They deserve everything they get, but I don’t. I should be punished for other sins, but not mental and moral hebetude.

kbeanie
kbeanie
6 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Just put it on his Twitter 👍🏻

A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
6 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Wow, Newsom sounds crazed.

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
6 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

They’ll either claim that not enough people are wearing masks or it would have been much worse without them.

Lisa from Toronto
Lisa from Toronto
6 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Exactly right and the sign of an incoherent argument. I’m expecting the same thing in my county — the mask mandate came in last Friday and we had zero cases here and no more than a handful since the start of this (zero deaths). And yet even though there were no cases, if asked the authorities will spout the same nonsense that the masks will prevent cases or we got to zero (from one case the day before) because of masks. We can’t win with these hysterics.

Mark II
Mark II
6 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

I think the Governor has already instructed _MORE_ mask wearing is in order, rather than accepting they clearly arent having any positive effect and so roll back the ridiculous infringement on peoples rights.

MiriamW
MiriamW
6 years ago

6 days in the High Peak – I hope this cheers a few people up.

Wednesday: The hairdresser re-opened and my husband had his number 0 and beard trim with no mask and she didn’t wear a visor. She will wear it if the terrified come in (we saw her in it on Saturday along with 2 very miserable-looking old ladies waiting in muzzles) but otherwise, business very nearly normal.

Thursday in a small shop: asked the owner if she’d enforce masks. She said she had no intention and then treated me to her views on the plandemic which were very similar to mine i.e. totally sceptical. I also chatted to my neighbour who is not a sceptic but who is not at all happy. She told me a local chemist requires its staff to put their masks in a box at the end of each day and after a week they have to wear them again because they have become ‘safe’. Could you make this up?

Friday in the Coop. Asked the mask exemption question. The woman didn’t know Coop policy but then told me what a load of bollox it all is, has no doubt about the politics… Read more »

Lili
Lili
6 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW

That sounds very heartening. What part of the Englabd are you in?

MiriamW
MiriamW
6 years ago
Reply to  Lili

North West.

Lili
Lili
6 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW

The down to earth north. I guessed as much.

Ben Shirley
Ben Shirley
6 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW

Lots of good news there. Your daughter sounds like she’s got some pretty damning evidence right there. Any chance she might be persuaded to write an article for LS or Spiked? Under a pseudonym, naturally.

MiriamW
MiriamW
6 years ago
Reply to  Ben Shirley

Hi, it’s a friend of our daughter’s but I’ll ask.

Bella
Bella
6 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW

If they won’t accept your exemption tell them you’ll sue them for discrimination against disability.

RickH
RickH
6 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW

“ Our daughter’s scientist friend works for PHE. She wrote a paper on the uselessness of masks and she’s been told to re-write it to say the opposite.”

So the fairy stories sussed out by the CEBM team are part of a pattern?

Quelle surprise!

Offlands
Offlands
6 years ago

Cruise and Maritime cruise line collapsed:

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/breaking-news/cruise–maritime-voyages-enters-administration-24065

“ceased trading with immediate effect and its international sales offices in Australia, France, the United States and TransOcean Kreuzfahrten in Germany have also ceased trading.”

I do not know how many jobs but it will be a lot.

Two-Six
Two-Six
6 years ago
Reply to  Offlands

Good! just think of all that horrible carbon those cruise ships pump out. If the life of ONE DOLPHIN is saved it’s worth it.

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

DLM….

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