Very pleased that opposition to your madcap posts makes you uncomfortable
1. it doesn't make me uncomfortable, that's your deluded mind, the fact it pleases you to think that is yet another indication of your warped narcissistic personality.
2. Arguing with narcissistic shills/trolls is like playing chess with a pidgeon, they knock all the pieces over, shit all over the board, then stut about like they won.
3. The only way to win is not to play at all.
Studies early on were looking for signs of susceptibility, the highest predispositions were old age, followed by high BMI, followed by vitamin D deficiency, smoking/age of on starting smoking was another much lower signal.
Pfizer data replicated here too:
Pfizer data replicated here too:
But the expose is a fake news site.
Back on- topic, VAERS is often rubbished by those who would prefer that adverse reactions were not registered.
There is nothing else.
In his interview with John Campbell, Kyle the (former) elite mountain-biker who suffered severe vaccine injury, pointed out that it isn't as easy to register a reaction on VAERS as is supposed. The majority of registrations are made by doctors or other medical professionals, and making a false addition is an offence with a heavy financial penalty.
Ok - back to your straw man fantasies. (Against my better judgement, I do find them hilarious)
Back on- topic, VAERS .... There is nothing else.
yes there is, we use a different system, called Yellow CARD.
It is not possible to eliminate Temporal Association from the system, due to events occurring following vaccination but may or may not be caused by the vaccine.
Back on- topic, VAERS .... There is nothing else.
yes there is, we use a different system, called Yellow CARD.
It is not possible to eliminate Temporal Association from the system, due to events occurring following vaccination but may or may not be caused by the vaccine.
You make an asinine comment. I am aware of the UK yellow card; this was not the system under discussion and I referred to the US VAERS because I have heard more than one person comment on how it is a time-consuming and far from straightforward process to register an adverse-reaction on it.
Back on- topic, VAERS .... There is nothing else.
yes there is, we use a different system, called Yellow CARD.
It is not possible to eliminate Temporal Association from the system, due to events occurring following vaccination but may or may not be caused by the vaccine.
You make an asinine comment. I am aware of the UK yellow card; this was not the system under discussion and I referred to the US VAERS because I have heard more than one person comment on how it is a time-consuming and far from straightforward process to register an adverse-reaction on it.
First you say there is nothing else, then you admit there is, but you still disregard Temporal Association, perhaps you have bought in to the anti-vaxx narrative. Could that be it?
Back on- topic, VAERS .... There is nothing else.
yes there is, we use a different system, called Yellow CARD.
It is not possible to eliminate Temporal Association from the system, due to events occurring following vaccination but may or may not be caused by the vaccine.
You make an asinine comment. I am aware of the UK yellow card; this was not the system under discussion and I referred to the US VAERS because I have heard more than one person comment on how it is a time-consuming and far from straightforward process to register an adverse-reaction on it.
First you say there is nothing else, then you admit there is, but you still disregard Temporal Association, perhaps you have bought in to the anti-vaxx narrative. Could that be it?
I know nothing of anti-vaxx narratives (whatever they are) as I have had numerous vaccinations during my life, as have my children.
I do recognize a vexatious challenge, though, and will treat it as the desperate ramblings of an excitable fanatic.
Perhaps someone with experience of the 2 systems will favour us with an example of a clinician in the US successfully reporting an adverse reaction on the UK Yellow Card system, and why anyone would do it. VAERS is for the US; Yellow Card is for the UK - neither system appear to be of any interest to the regulators.
You seem very exercised about temporal association; I'm not sure why that should be, as there could be any number of reasons for a late report - perhaps the victim was unaware of the system and should only be queried if the reaction was logged before the jab was administered.
Much latitude is given in counting deaths 'with/of Covid', whereas one appears to remain 'unvaccinated' now for 20+ days following the dose. This seems to give the jab a very free pass.
but nobody mentioned any late reports. why did you bring that up?I
A temporal association between two events implies a coincidence.That is what the systems are subject to, there will be health events following vaccination by coincidence.
but nobody mentioned any late reports. why did you bring that up?I
A temporal association between two events implies a coincidence.That is what the systems are subject to, there will be health events following vaccination by coincidence.
There's an awful lot of 'coincidence' around the vaccine rollout.
It seems ewloe is the current designated Government Narrative Troll on this site. Its been quite a tag team over the last year. I make him as number five or six by this stage.
This is the VAERS case online filing page..
https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html
Basically its online and must be finished in 20 mins. Looking at the online form the only way to do this efficiently is to print out the PDF manual entry form, fill it in, then use the data collated on the printed form for the online form entry.
The reason why so many case entries are incomplete is because the online form can only be completed in the designated time if all the form data has been prepared ahead of time and the person filing the case is familiar with the online form format. Federal forms are always a bitch.
The arguments ewloe is using is pure dissimulation. VAERS is the official system used for more than 30 years. For every vaccine. Its for monitoring vaccine safety. Its underreporting of potential adverse events problems have been discussed at length for decades.
What ewloe is trying to do is deliberately confuse a very basic principal of clinical diagnosis. If there is a temporal connection between a medical procedure and a medical event then that is a very relevant diagnostic data and a strong case for a causality link.
It is no different than when you go to a doctor with specific symptoms, the doctor prescribes a therapeutic treatment for the symptoms presented and then the symptoms go away in the next few days. A person gets vaccinated and in the following few days shows symptoms that may or may not be related to any prior condition. A quick look at the medical history and the adverse event symptoms will soon make clear any causality. And the VAERS records for the COVID vaccines currently show a remarkable similarity in the adverse response events within the various age cohorts no matter what their prior medical history.
In the area of vaccine safety that is call a very strong adverse event casualty link. At least 250 times more dangerous than the annual flu shot. This level of adverse events would always get a vaccine approval process clinical trials shut down in the past. Which is exactly what happened to all previous mRNA vaccine candidates in the FDA approval process.
Thats what elwoe is trying to hide.
What ewloe is trying to do is deliberately confuse a very basic principal of clinical diagnosis. If there is a temporal connection between a medical procedure and a medical event then that is a very relevant diagnostic data and a strong case for a causality link.
You seem to believe that if event B follows closely behind event A, there is a high probability that event B was caused by event A.
On it's own, this is obviously not a reasonable assumption.
You should consider the probability of event B occurring in isolation, within the same time period.
Then you can look at the data and see if incidences of event A, actually increases incidences of event B.
If you do this for VAERs data on deaths temporally associated with vaccination, your justification for causation will vanish into thin air.
Have a go and see what conclusions you draw.
From CDC website......
Limitations of VAERS:
- It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event
- Reports submitted to VAERS often lack details and sometimes contains errors
- Serious adverse events are more likely to be reported than non-serious events
- Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness
- VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events
Who can report to VAERS
CDC and FDA encourage anyone who experiences (or is made aware) of an adverse event after vaccination to report it to VAERS, even if they are not sure the vaccine caused the problem:
- Patients
- Parents/family member
- Caregivers
- Those who administer vaccines
- Healthcare providers
- Vaccine manufacturers
Reporting to VAERS helps CDC and FDA scientists keep vaccines safe.
@95-protected
That page was only added to the CDC site in April 2021. After people started looking at the data and pointing out the huge number of adverse events added to the system for COVID vaccines in the previous 4 months. Several orders of magnitude higher per 100K compared with all other vaccines. For many years before that the VAERS system was widely touted b the CDC as a system all should use no matter who they were. Due to the under reporting problems
As an aside. About your handle. Unless you under 60 and in perfect health with the usual history of colds and flu, so a well prepped immune system, even on day 28 after your second shot you were not 95% "protected". For vaccines for viruses like human corona viruses (HCOVs) you might be lucky to get a field efficacy of 50%. Maybe. Thats the best the annual flu shot gets. With that value rolling off very quickly to under 10% in the weeks following. Why do you think they are making such a big deal about boosters. Any potential protection only lasts a few months at most. And with such a low IFR the risk/benefits for the vaccine are very negative.
So you should really have the handle 25-protected. Because that is probably closer to the mark. This week. Against the equivalent of a very bad flu. Although in my case it was not half as bad as Swine Flu in 2009. H1N1-09 was a real bastard. Took many months to recover. With SARS CoV 2, it took less than a week.
Your mileage may vary.
