Simon Dolan To Challenge “Rule of Six” in the Court of Appeal
Simon Dolan’s legal team is intending to bring up the “Rule of Six” in the Court of Appeal when it appeals the High Court’s rejection of its legal challenge against the coronavirus regulations. The Telegraph has more.
The new ‘rule of six’ Covid-19 restrictions face a legal challenge as the Government is taken to court over its “irrational” and “disproportionate” measures to combat coronavirus.
Amid complaints that the new regulations barring meetings of more than six people will deny grandparents access to their grandchildren, lawyers plan to use them in support of a Court of Appeal claim that the lockdown measures were unlawful.
The judicial review is being brought by multi-millionaire businessman Simon Dolan, backed by a £250,000 crowdfunding campaign
The action was initially rejected by the high court but is now subject of an appeal to be heard on September 28 and 29.
“The appeal relates to legislation that was introduced before the latest [rule of six] measures. One of the reasons the judge tried to kybosh us was on the grounds that it was academic as the lockdown had been eased,” said Michael Gardner, one of the lawyers masterminding the action.
“This shows that it is not academic, with the reintroduction of restrictions. It puts wind in the sails of the action. We will be looking at whether this is further grounds for what would probably have to be a fresh petition that could be bolted onto the existing one.
“I am sure we will not be the only people looking at this and assessing the rationality of what is being proposed.”
Worth reading in full. And if you want to donate to Simon’s CrowdJustice fundraiser, it’s here. Thanks in part to donations from Lockdown Sceptics readers, Simon has raised over £260,000.
New Restrictions Are The “New Normal”
James Black in Bournbrook Magazine puts his finger on what is so disturbing about Boris’s new “Rule of Six”.
The Prime Minister insists this is not a new lockdown. In truth, it is worse than a second lockdown. It is the shape of the New Normal. This new move could amount to the most severe impingement on individual freedom we have had so far, given that the fines of £100 we each face for violating the restrictions are more likely to be handed out than similar fines have been in previous months.
Recent curbs on the right to protest and the £10,000 fines given to anti-lockdown campaigner Piers Corbyn should demonstrate beyond doubt that the government and establishment as a whole is intent on doubling-down on its assault on Britain’s constitution, rather than easing off.
Covid Marshalls, spot fines, enforced tracing amounting to invasive surveillance and the complete annihilation of the organic centres of citizen power are going to be part of the atmosphere of the new hellish reality of modern Britain. We may even be subject to a soul-crushing, economy-destroying curfew. At least during lockdown we were free within our own private castles, now we are going to be forced back out into the world, but with none of the incentives that make public life worthwhile, and completely on the terms of our predatory and sinister health minister Matt Hancock.
With restrictions on assembly, prohibitive rules on going to pubs, cinemas and public buildings, the government is slowly taking over our personal lives, effectively killing Britain’s centuries old implicitly accepted commitment to individual liberty.
Worth reading in full.
The Final Straw
We got a lot of emails like this after Boris’s “Rule of Six” announcement.
As I have watched successive poor decisions, flip-flopping, over-reliance on polling and public opinion and restriction of our civil liberties I have become increasingly incensed. The decision to reduce gatherings to no more than six people was the final straw: As a family of five (myself, my husband and three children under 12) we are now unable to see my parents. My parents are relatively young – mid-60s and in very good physical health. I am incredibly close to them (my brother is abroad and rarely visits) and we see them weekly, often spending holidays together. Suddenly, because of my decision to have a third child, we are no longer able to meet in any circumstances. However, had I stopped at two, we would be able to continue weekly meetings, holidays, the whole shebang. This is just the latest in a long line of restrictions that I (and I believe an increasing proportion of the country) am no longer willing to tolerate. My next door neighbour (a good friend) is a senior ICU doctor at a large London hospital and she agrees: in her large ICU the vast majority of patients came from inside the hospital (as you rightly pointed out at the time) and were morbidly obese, very old or both. Since late April they have been emptying out and she has been “bored” ever since. I could go on with examples of why these measures are ludicrous and, in many cases, dangerous to mental and physical health, social mobility and the economy in general but I know you are more familiar with these than me!
We know exactly how she feels.
The Oracle Speaks
A reader has kindly transcribed some of Lord Sumption’s remarks in yesterday’s Planet Normal podcast with Allison Pearson and Liam Halligan. His ability to speak in fully-formed, grammatically correct sentences is something else.
“I think Boris Johnson is a Johnsonite and that will lead him in different directions depending on the circumstances. Boris Johnson’s main problem is that he is obsessed with PR and he is not intelligent enough to study a problem carefully and in depth. Those are his two main problems. I think the problem is aggravated by the fact that decisions are being made within government by a very very small number of people and that the principle qualification for admission to his cabinet is loyalty as a result of which he is not getting the kind of internal discussion and criticism which makes for better decision making.”
“Well, the most important thing about the Coronavirus Act is that it is not the act which has been used to justify the lockdown or other measures affecting citizens. There are no powers in the Coronavirus Bill to control the movements of healthy people. The government has in fact used the Coronavirus Act only to justify the financial implications of the lock down. Most of the Act is in fact concerned with authorising, with the minimum of parliamentary scrutiny, additional public expenditure”.
“The lockdown and the quarantine rules and most of the other regulations have been made under the Public Health Control of Disease Act of 1984 which was extensively amended in 2008. Now, there is no agreement among lawyers about which I’m about to say but I do not myself believe that that act confers on the government the powers which it has purported to exercise. Because it is a basic principle of British constitutional law that you cannot invade fundamental rights and there are few more fundamental rights than liberty, by using general terms. You’ve got to be specific about it. And the reason for that is that if you use general words to justify draconian invasions of fundamental rights, there’s too big a risk that it will pass unnoticed in the course of the parliamentary process. To invade fundamental rights you have to have absolutely specific language. The only specific language in the Public Health Act which justifies invasions of liberty relates to people who are believed, on reasonable grounds, to be infectious. Ministers can only do things that magistrates could do and magistrates only have power to control the movements of infected people or to control the opening of infected premises. They don’t have power to control uncontaminated premises or healthy people”.
“The government has deliberately – I must assume deliberately because they have plenty of legal advice – they have used an act which to put it at its lowest, its application is profoundly controversial. In my view, an act which doesn’t confer powers. Now, the oddity is, the government does have power to do what it has done under another act which it has declined to use – The Civil Contingencies Act, 2004. The CCA is concerned with emergencies including health related emergencies and it empowers ministers to do anything that can be done by an act of parliament. Now you can’t get wider words than that. Why haven’t they used it? Now the only reason that I can think of for not using it is that the CCA has very stringent provisions for parliamentary scrutiny. A regulation under the act is only provisionally valid for 7 days unless it is approved by Parliament. Thereafter, it only has validity for 30 days; it has to be renewed every 30 days. Moreover, exceptionally there are provisions entitling Parliament to amend a regulation which is laid before it or to revoke it at any time. Now, the only reason that I can think of why the government did not use the one piece of legislation that’s plainly applicable is that it wished to avoid parliamentary scrutiny.”
Dr Mike Yeadon Challenges Government to Produce Evidence of Second Wave
Dr Mike Yeadon, co-author of the paper on the unlikelihood of a second wave that we published on Lockdown Sceptics Tuesday, appeared on Julia Hartley-Brewer’s show on TalkRADIO yesterday and challenged the Government and its scientific advisors to point to a single piece of research evidence that there’s likely to be a second wave of SARS-CoV-2. As he points out, we’ve already seen two pandemics caused by novel coronavirus since 2003 and neither has produced a second wave.
Mike is the former Head of Allergy and Respiratory Research at Pfizer and a successful biotech entrepreneur. He really knows his viruses.
Worth listening to in full.
The New Normal
Have we had a glimpse of the new normal at a pilot scheme at the St Leger Festival at Doncaster Racecourse, where the limited number of socially distanced spectators were not allowed to shout or cheer?
Covid Death Rate Higher in Countries With Mild Recent Flu Seasons
It’s been known for some time that the mortality profile of COVID-19 matches that of natural mortality, meaning people are considerably more likely to die with it the older they get. Your likelihood of dying with COVID-19 is about the same as your likelihood of dying full stop. This has led to the obvious question: how many who die with COVID-19 were likely to die soon anyway? And a related question: has the COVID-19 pandemic been particularly bad because the mild recent flu seasons have left alive many who would ordinarily have succumbed sooner?
Dr Chris Hope at the Cambridge Judge Business School decided to test this hypothesis and the result can be seen above (the paper is here). He found there was indeed a statistically significant correlation between the mildness of recent flu seasons and Covid death toll.
Does this mean that the whole coronavirus debacle only happened because the old had been spared a couple of winters? Scary thought.
Postcard From College
A 19 year-old college student started a childcare course in Wales this week and wrote to tell us about the joys of Covid college.
On Monday September 7th I started a Childcare course, and was greeted at the front desk by the harsh call of: “Masks in the hallways!”
I didn’t have a mask so they supplied one and I went on my way to class where I was informed we don’t have to wear them in the classroom… Apparently Covid waits patiently by the door before it attacks. Once in, we were welcomed by a talk from the Principal, a very nice chap with a lot of good to say but also a lot of bull. By the end if I had to hear the word “safe”, “safety” or “safeguarding” one more time I would throw up. Life will never be completely safe but can we at least do our best to minimise the irritation one must encounter on a day to day basis?
Then our teacher, again a lovely woman, read out the Covid symptoms – which as I understand it is about anything – and informed us that if we developed any then we were to go home immediately. One of these was a runny nose, fair enough. But the thing is they kept the windows open all day and weren’t allowed to close them! By the end of the day we were all sniffling because the room was freezing – what could you expect for Wales in September? Apparently, Covid is terribly frightened of air currents.
It’s as hard on our teachers as it is the students because they aren’t allowed to walk around the classroom to help us with our work, they have to yell from the desk. And anything we borrow – laptops, phones, pens, pencils – have to be wiped down before and after. It’s a huge hassle.
For my particular course, it’s quite frustrating. A a student of Childcare, I have to complete a certain number of placements in order to get the qualification. But they’re not letting any of us out into the schools. They say it might be possible in January, but the way the Government’s U-turns are going that could change any day. I don’t hold it against the school. Most of the teachers and students don’t care about Covid and are just trying to get on with it (there are a few authoritarian types enjoying themselves) and with the rules as confusing as ever that’s all anyone can do.
Empty Cycle Lanes
The Mailonline has flagged that many of the cycle lines that have popped up since the lockdown was imposed on March 23rd are empty. Meanwhile, motorists are being squeezed into ever smaller roads, causing endless traffic jams.
Pop-up cycle lanes set up as part a £225 million plan to get Britain moving again are lying empty while traffic is squeezing onto narrowed streets, bringing the capital to a halt, it can be revealed.
MailOnline visited some of the key cycle lanes across the country at the height of the rush hour to gauge how busy they are, only to find them chronically under-used with cyclists criticising them as well as motorists.
Our research in London, where Transport for London is leading its own £33 million scheme, shows that on the Euston Road, just seven cyclists used the designated lane over a 15-minute period.
Meanwhile 420 cars fought their way through traffic while in Park Lane, Mayfair, just 21 cyclists used the lane as 400 cars battled past.
The Government unveiled a £250 million plan to disfigure our cities with cycle lanes back in May. The subhead on the Guardian story about it was: “Campaigners call for redesign of transport system to help prevent bounce-back in air pollution.” Bounce-back in air pollution? Not even Independent Sage would come up with such unscientific guff.
One reader is understandably incandescent about this colossal waste of taxpayers’ money.
Almost all of this was done to get people cycling rather than taking public transportation. It was rammed through without consultation. It is a spectacular disaster like everything the Government touches.
The incompetence in planning and implementation of cycle lanes in the UK is breathtaking.
This Is Why Brits Aren’t Back in the Office
An office worker has written to tell us about the insanity that has taken over his London workplace.
I just wanted to share my situation with regards to going back to the office (been working from home since early March!).
I really want to go back to work, and with the virus gone, no one dying, no one in the hospital you would think that companies would reopen their offices. Well not mine. Our London office is still shut, with no timeline as to when we would go back.
But today, they held a virtual meeting to explain what to expect when we return. And it’s absolutely bonkers!
Masks will be everywhere in the office. They have to be worn all the time. They are also asking us to wear the mask from the moment we leave our home (they admit they can’t police that but they say it’s the rule).
Arrival times at the office will need to be staggered. Only four people per lift, each facing towards one corner of the lift. We share our building with another company and have been warned that they are not mandating masks so we should wait for the next lift to not be in proximity with such irresponsible individuals.
We will have to check in at reception, where they will conduct temperature checks. We will have to answer questions related to having symptoms, being in close contact with someone who has etc. If we pass the test, we would be given a bracelet, that allows us to be in the office. So anyone without a bracelet needs to be reported as they’ve not been screened.
We might be allocated a desk that’s not our usual desks, as everyone will need to be at least two meters apart, not facing each other. Meeting rooms will have their capacity cut, and will be stuffed with sanitising products that will need to be used on the equipment in the room before use. We’re asked to not use meeting rooms if possible, so if everyone is in the office for a meeting, the meeting will still have to take place over video conference with everyone at their desk.
Food and beverages can only be consumed at your desk. Tables in communal areas (around coffee machines) have been removed.
They’re starting a voluntary weekly testing programme, and we are “encouraged” to sign up (“we’re encouraging weekly testing because people can have the virus without showing symptoms” so a good way to get some false positives, or non-contagious people to become “cases” and scare everyone else).
I want to go back to the office, but not to that! This is just pure insanity.
Meanwhile my friends in France have all been back to their offices since June, all going back to the way it was before…
LinkedOut
Free speech has been one of the most serious casualties of this pandemic as internet platforms have taken it upon themselves to censor anything that doesn’t agree with the WHO’s latest change in policy. LinkedIn appears to be no exception, and a reader has been in touch to say the site has been particularly ruthless with him for his lockdown scepticism.
I was kicked off LinkedIn, no option to even retrieve my 15 years of data, big problem as I work business-to-business only and the 18,000 connections I think was the very best network anybody has in my niche field. No prior warnings or issues with LinkedIn, straight to removal of my profile and 15 years of posts. I didn’t think to ever back up my data/connections as I thought if I ever need it I’ll login and download it, but the download option is not possible as I can’t even login.
He has contacted LinkedIn, but they have not responded. If you are on Twitter and want to show your support please click here and retweet.
Grumpy Brother
Got a disheartening email from a man who had a bad experience trying to buy a bottle of bubbly to celebrate his son’s first communion. Some people do seem absolutely determined to see their shops go out of business.
Having collected the kids from school, I popped into a local off licence this afternoon – Laithwaite’s Wine – with the boys in tow. I needed to buy a couple of bottles of nice wine ahead of my son’s First Holy Communion tomorrow.
The ceremony itself – one of the biggest moments in a young Catholic’s life – has already been rendered close to useless given the absurd hoops we will have to jump through but at least popping a couple of corks would mark the occasion with some of the party spirit it is supposed to bring.
Mask on and having read the list of regulations by which I must comply to buy wine we had barely set foot into the door when we were gruffly told that we would have to wait outside they already had the requisite three customers inside the (massive) shop.
Given I was about to spend money with them I would have thought that the message might have been delivered slightly more pleasantly, but it was clear that we were dealing with people who were enjoying their moment in the sun.
And I needed wine!
When we eventually entered the shop, we were once again told that we would have to wait outside as being three, we exceeded the maximum number of “customers”. I’m not sure how much wine they expected the children to buy (both of them being under 10) but I politely explained that i doubted that rule applied to them. Bacchus’s grumpy brother reluctantly agreed but instructed us form behind his Perspex screen that we would all have to sanitise our hands and “stick together because the children will touch things”.
I should have just walked out at this point but I persisted as i was tight for time.
Mistake.
Whilst I had a quick awkward conversation with one of the two shop assistants and was in the process of paying for the wine, he took it upon himself to shout at my children and castigate them as loudly as he could for “not staying close to me”.
Personally I don’t care. I meet idiots everyday and will delight in not taking them any more custom in the future, that’s easy. But I felt terribly for the kids who were visibly embarrassed and uncomfortable. What sort of message does this give our little people when gleeful, bullying shop assistants feel they can behave this way?
I will drink their wine tomorrow and toast my little boy’s future but I plan to see if they operate a bottle return programme.
If they do, I know exactly where to stick the empties.
Are there no limits to the Government’s authoritarian overreach?
New Party Names
Some good name suggestions from readers: Freedom Party, Liberty Party, Enlightenment Party, Democratic Freedom Party, Libertas, Liberal Party.
Keep ’em coming.
Round-Up
- “Edinburgh police arrest and charge councillor after ‘unlawful’ anti-lockdown protests” – Dissent will not be tolerated
- “Anders Tegnell and the Swedish Covid experiment” – Even the Financial Times seems to be softening towards the Swedish approach in this in depth interview with Sweden’s heroic chief epidemiologist
- “Africa’s catastrophic Covid response” – Ian Birrell in UnHerd lays out the brutal truth about Africa, lockdowns and Covid
- “Counting the dead” – Excellent article in The Critic by Laura Dodsworth on the multitude of failings in our attempts to keep track of the dead this year
- “In defence of Boris’s ‘Rule of Six’” – The normally dependable Patrick O’Flynn has a brain fart in the Spectator
- “A handy guide to staying safe” – The always dependable Andy Shaw in Spectator Life
- “Flu and pneumonia killed TEN TIMES as many Brits as Covid last week, stats reveal” – The Sun brings some more facts to bear on the hysteria
- “Birmingham lockdown restrictions increased” – No mixing in homes at all for Brummies
- “Rising coronavirus infections show it’s time to overreact” – Bed-wetting piece of the day from Tom Whipple in the Times
- “Michael Gove persuaded Boris Johnson to bring in ‘rule of six’” – And they both claim to be a liberals
- “Sweden: People who wear masks get stared at, not the other way around” – Also known as normal
- “It’s time to move to a voluntary system… and for us to actually start living like a free people” – Great quote from Steve Baker MP. More power to his elbow
- “Professors’ message for Daniel Andrews: redo the coronavirus modelling” – The Australian lays out the scientific challenge to Kim Jong Dan. But is he interested in facts?
- “We should maintain the easing of lockdown” – Channel 4 interviews Oxford’s great anti-lockdown epidemiologist Sunetra Gupta
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Seven today: “Everybody Be Yo’Self” by Chic Street Man, Le Voyage Dans la Lune (A Trip to the Moon) by Georges Méliès, “Governed By Contradiction” by Damon Smith Trio, “Hysterical Blindness” by Misery Stairs, “Resisting Tyrannical Government” by Propagandhi, “The Government Totally Sucks” by Tenacious D and “Clueless” by The Marias.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We’ve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened
A few months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all and some will have to close again on September 14th. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! If they’ve made that clear to customers with a sign in the window or similar, so much the better. Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 14th to Oct 23rd). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now approaching 32,000).
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
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Victoria police go from ‘zero to nuclear’ in latest footage of police overreachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGNffT6JqKM&list=WL&index=45&t=0s
Currently on my first weekend away since the start of all this and over the border in England to boot.
Lovely little hotel was in the middle of a large kids birthday party function when I arrived. Kids running round smiling, laughing, towing balloons behind them, running in and out of the building. I’d already checked ahead that the hotel was fine with mask exemptions and true to their word on arrival not a mask in sight on anyone, staff or guests. You honestly wouldn’t have known the world had changed so much.
Makes me angry that come tomorrow kids parties won’t be allowed. How can our politicians stand by and allow this to happen? Our early years are so formative. What sort of people will kids of today turn into having their childhoods mutated so badly?
i repeat.;.. SUNDAY’s PAGE IS HERE
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Why isn’t Lord Sumption advising Simon Dolan??
I’m wondering that, too.
I am sick of this country
The writing is on the wall
I would like to leave for pastures green
Considering a river boat at the moment
Possibly a better country visa permitting
Perhaps political asylum
Where to go though?
There’s nowhere, everywhere else is operating the same, and no doubt places like Sweden will too eventually when trade starts to ramp up again as it will be like the “war on drugs” where every country had to use the same nonsensical rules on drugs to be able to trade with the USA.
http://www.gov.uk has gone down – can’t be reached.
And at the same moment, the Guardian has gone down too.
Perhaps they are one and the same…
Start of a coup d’état ?
Coup de main, more fun
I wish!
Sadly gov uk appears to be up from here
It has become clear that the ‘crisis’ will not just go away of its own accord in time. The natural end point was two weeks after the BLM ‘mostly peaceful protests.’ Nor is there any political solution, as if Christmas is cancelled what chance for elections in the Spring?
All that remains is personal acts of civil disobedience. The opportunity for those at least will not be hard to find. Curfew breaking, anyone?
Whilst I am not denying that there could be plots afoot, I am rather inclined to agree with Peter Hitchens who sees more incompetence than conspiracy. The Government do not understand science and are behaving like a bunch of school children terrified by a sci-fi horror movie and have let the blinkered scientists free rein to run the show. And just as you should never let accountants run the company you should never let scientists run the government.
But they are running out of time and the stats from the dodgy mass testing programme will not drive this forever. In the last few days some of press have been asking awkward questions comparing all these hysterical test results with the low numbers of hospital cases. And so we saw yesterday an attempt to imply that hospital cases/deaths were increasing but at present the stats do not really support that claim. If hospital Covid 19 cases/deaths stay low for another month this whole pantomime is going to be hard to sustain.
The government, and others, are investing a lot of political capital in a second wave occurring. I fear any sort of increase in mortality figures, which I think there will be, will be talked up as being the “second wave”.
Half listening to Radio 4 just now I think I heard it being mentioned that early October might be when we’ll see signs of it beginning.
Yes, that’s the point. Too many careers will be coterminous with the ‘crisis’ for it to be called off. Not just political careers. Scientific, police (Cressida Dick, how does she outlast covid?).
That’s how it works though. They want you to believe that they’re incompetent and could need be able to achieve such a thing, this in itself is a form of brainwashing which gives you the comfort of thinking it will never happen and you must be imaging things.
Looking at the teaching curriclulum over the past 20 years, I’d say yes.
I’m surprised she wasn’t just advised the Grauniad!
Agree with you, Steve, but Twatcock justified masks in shops using just 107 deaths nationally. About 2 hours worth of normal, unremarkable avearge death statisitics.
Curious that Lord Sumption declined to say that the Public Health (Control of Diseases) Act 1984 (as amended) did not confer the powers that the Government have used to impose a lockdown. What he said instead was that the Act was in effect unconstitutional, because such powers should be applied specific to the situation.
This harks back to the argument over whether Parliament is supreme in that Acts of Parliament inform the Constitution, or whether the courts are supreme in being able to state that Acts can be unconstitutional if they contravene the ‘common law’ as expressed these days as ‘human rights’
At the end of the day, we elect the law makers in Parliament, so they are accountable to the people. Judges are not elected and are accountable to no-one. The over-riding principle is therefore one of democratic accountability and so Parliament must stand above the courts.
as I understand, Lord Sumption’s argument is that the Public Health Act only enables regulations to be made in relation to a limited class of people, namely the infected. The Coronavirus Act does not contain such enabling powers, and is mainly focused on powers exercisable by decree in relation to financial matters and some administrative provisions around the register for nurses and death certificates etc. The Civil Contingencies Act does enable regulations to be introduced that apply to the population at large but these can only remain in force for 7 days until debated by Parliament.
In brief, the argument is that Government has not acted in accordance with the parameters set down by Parliament by introducing the myriad Restriction Regs.
In brief the government has abrogated powers to itself that it does not have the right to.
Probably the reason why all early Covid reg prosecutions were withdrawn; supposedly because they had been issued using regs applicable only in Wales which I thought unlikely at the time.
https://twitter.com/laworfiction/status/1304719479537127424?s=20
Lord Sumption was on LBC just now.
I hope many people heard his sensible answers.
Out of chaos comes order
A picture is emerging of what the dictator has planned for us
The Aim
To preserve the dictatorship at all costs
How
Control and compliance of the population
By what means?
Mass vaccination, health passports, a cashless society, mass surveillance of the population. The eradication of dissent
Vaccination will not be compulsory. Vaccination will be compulsory. Covid Marshall’s will not be dragging people out of their homes in order to forcibly vaccinate them
However, no vaccination no health passport on your mobile phone. No health passport, no passport, no driving licence, not allowed in shops, no bank account not allowed to work etc
Ah you say, I’ll opt out, I’ll ditch the phone and use cash. In 2008 if there had not been cash about interest rates would have been set at minus 7%. Well we have the mother of all financial crashes coming and it will be used as a pretence to do away with cash
In Orwell’s 1984 the telescreens were screwed to the walls. This allowed Winston some brief respite in an alcove in his room, and on a sojourn to the countryside. Today everyone carries there personal telescreen around with them… Read more »
Any actual evidence for that bullshit? The incompetent in No 10 can’t even tie his shoelaces.
Is everything ok at home?
The one thing missing on this site is a block button.
Why, oh that’s right because your so smart you can’t be bother reading people you don’t agree with. What a fucking rotter pal
I’ll take that as a no
You can have a block button. You cannot have a block button
It does as there is quite a lot of spammy links flying around these days on here, but it’s a comments section of a WordPress blog and that’s not how they work, so it’s “tough titties” really.
If I said 7months ago a law would be introduced preventing grandparents from seeing their grandchildren, I suspect your response would have been the same.
Hope you are right and I’m wrong
Just over a year ago I was at the British F1 GP. The was one person there wearing a face mask and everyone was basically saying “look at that idiot there wearing that stupid face mask” because he was in a crowd of 150,000 people. Now something that is totally ridiculous just as it was back then is the normal, and instead of being mocked, the vast majority of people are in favour of wearing them, and now think that anyone that doesn’t is stupid.
Armies can train train someone to be a killer in 21 days, and all the same tactics have been used throughout this lockdown. People are completely unaware of the brainwashing that has occurred.
None so blind as those that can’t see
There is actually.
Toby had a roundup link outlining just how ‘health Passport’ will work and how awful they will be about 3 weeks ago, very well worth a revisit.
I can only recall the subtitle.
….gateway to a new tyranny”
gogle that just comes up with a US book on gun control.
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Check out Blair’s Institute for Global Change. A section where he outlines the need for digital health passports for access to any and every social area, nothing is excluded. It also mentions they are lobbying the government regarding the same.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPdi7IAC_A
Latest From Fascist Australia
Oz cops losing more friends, influencing less people.
Wow. Disgusting behaviour from the pigs. Quelle surprise
I was raised in an abusive household and it had a lifelong effect. I shy away from conflict but at the same time I am ready to applaud public displays of courage and defiance by other people.
Where I am, New Jersey, I see people in Costco, with their mask pulled down around their chin, I catch their eye and give them 2 thumbs up.
People like that spark joy in me, and I do my best to show my support of their behavior. I don’t understand anyone who has actually “purchased” a cloth mask. I get the surgical paper masks, free, at work. The inner linings are cut out, the outer layers are “snipped” or pricked with needles, to get “breath by a thousand cuts” or at least 10 or 20.
All you defiers out there, keep doing what you are doing, it’s brilliant!
I just tried cutting out the inner linings. Do you do both sets? With just the blue part you can definitely breathe more easily but it’s kind of obvious something is missing from the mask. But I will say, it would be unlikely for anyone to call you on it because it appears you’re wearing a medical mask, and if it’s covering both mouth and nose I suspect people would just keep quiet. The only cloth masks I have (and only use for a few minutes at a time) say This Sucks and I Am Being Force to Wear This. On the odd occasion I have to put one on, I’ll only do so if it’s subversive, like cutting out the inner linings of the medical masks as you suggest, or has something written on it that makes my feelings clear. Where I live compliance is 100% so I rarely go into a shop, but I have a dentist appointment coming up so will need to put one on to walk into the exam room from the reception area. Mask hacks should be a thing.
I keep the layer immediately next to the blue outer cover, but slice it with scissors two or three times from left to right. I have literally worn the same 2 paper masks since March, when I go to stores for groceries, coffee, etc, though I get additional new ones at work and keep them in the glove box of my car.
Also, I wear them very loosely, no pressing of the wire against my nose. I need to breathe, and that takes priority over whatever world agenda is being advanced by whom ever is running this thing.
I’m pushing 60 and have had an OK life, horrendous childhood notwithstanding, so I have a pragmatic attitude to this insanity of 2020, but feel bad for young people going through this. Would hate for it to be a replay of the Russian Revolution where it took 70+ years for misery to recede, Berlin Wall came down, but the euphoria did not last long, evidently.
I saw my dentist recently and was pleasantly surprised. Scrubs and mask, but no visor and could walk in the door without having to check in by phone first.
I’m 55 and have had a very good life, but I worry about my kids. I hear you on breathing — I can’t tolerate the bloody mask for more than a few minutes. Cheating is perfectly acceptable! I don’t expect to have a very good experience at the dentist. I had to insist my husband and I have appointments at the same time so we can come in together and be pretty much done at the same time. We have to call up when we arrive and wait in the car until we get the OK to come up. Then it’s masks to walk from reception to the exam room and back out again. SO ridiculous, but dental health is important so I’ll have to deal with it.
I am surprised you can wear the same (modified) mask for months. Perhaps I have bought a bad batch but the elastic strings just pull off the mask after a very short while/ There again we use our exemptions this side of the pond.
I sew the elastics back on if they become detached, usually just one does (bottom right attachment point, I’m right handed so maybe that area gets the most stress when I pull the mask off).
It’s encouraging that the UK has exemptions.
I think there’s a different mindset over here and people who should know they are exempt behave as though they are not, eg, 70-year old crossing a road on a motorized wheelchair, no one else around, and they have a mask pressed tight against their face.
I have begun thinking of stores as having ‘exemptions’ from my custom, due to their mask wearing policy. I buy food from one shop only, need to eat obviously, and online for any other items.
Hello, is there no exemption procedure in USA/Canada like we have in England? Over here doctors are not allowed to be involved, it is strictly a self assessment procedure, if you feel ‘stir crazy’ after 6 months of this nonsense then you can assess yourself as exempt.
I don’t wear masks at all but was being spoken at by a maskoid woman who said “I quite like mine, I spent seven pounds on it”
I suggested she go to Burberry who will sell her one for £90.00.
My first laugh of the day!
Thank you. Just the comment I needed this morning. Tomorrow I face my first ever mask defiance. I’ve avoided it so far, living in Wales. I have to help my stepson take his luggage into his new flat in Manchester. He’s been told by the staff at the student accommodation we both have to wear masks. So this will be interesting. He’s exempt, but I’m not and I feel strongly that I should not hide behind the exemption tactic. A broad smile and a confident demeanour will do the trick. But my errant brain has been nagging me with dreams of self-doubt all night, so you message was perfectly timed. Thank you for your inspiring words.
I’ve had a horrible night, waking repeatedly, feeling horribly distressed and nauseous. Can’t bear to think of what my beloved Tenby will look like from tomorrow, human beings replaced by masked ghouls.
Church service today, will attend if they aren’t already demanding gags. First church service since the bollox began, last one for me until literally God knows when. I will not pretend to worship the true God when all around me are bowing to the Covid devil.
After that, no riding lessons in the indoor school, probably no job as our attraction, an old fort, presumably counts as a public space, no eating out, shops only if absolutely essential… It looks as if it will be far worse than the original lockdown.
I will try to be strong, but, friend, how I need you all.
Darkest hour is before the dawn.
I know you will be strong, Annie. We will get through all this together, however long it takes.
Thank you, all. We will get through.
It is worse than the lockdown. All discretionary shopping ended now. Won’t say what I’m planning next, but the fascists in London and Caerdydd won’t like it…
You have been and will always be one of my brightest guiding stars. You have always been in the thick of things and stood up for decent human values. If I could achieve a tenth of what you have achieved, I should be proud.
Yes, we WILL get through this.
Feeling for you Annie. I was waiting outside my church for a friend this morning. I can’t go in too upsetting. Large sandwich board, ‘Church open, all welcome’. Then 3 A4 pages of Covid instructions and exclusions on the glass doors and then in red at the bottom, ‘……you cannot come into church at this time’. I just wanted to kick that sandwich board over. Stay strong Annie.💖
Kh, it is amazing, with my friend saying, ‘you really do have to be careful what you say’. well you can just imagine my response.
Everyone’s exempt. The guidance says you’re exempt if wearing one puts you are risk of harm. Clearly, there are hazards of muzzle wearing, the extent of which are unknown – as many papers online have explained.
As there haven’t been any risk assessments, you are at risk of harm by wearing one. Ergo you, like everyone, are exempt.
Good point, well made – I’m exempt. Huzzah!
However, I feel like I want to make a stand. Saying I’m exempt is, to me, buying into the system. I want to publicly rebel from the system. The problem is, if I stick to my principles tomorrow, and get refused entry, I’ll be letting down my stepson on his first day at college and I’ll ruin his first day for him (if the bastard rules in Lockdown Manchester haven’t already ruined his experience).
However, I do have a copy of Section 13 (1) of the Equality Act in my wallet, at hand to quote if necessary,
To get me in the right frame of mind, I’ll be listening to Prodigy’s “Their Law” on the way up there.
Yes, that’s the conundrum. Fail to say you’re exempt, and they can refuse you entry. So they win.
So if I’m challenged I just say exempt with a bored, can’t-be-bothered tone.
And what you have stated can’t be said often enough!
Yet most people still don’t understand – ‘I can’t breathe in this bloody thing’ – ‘Well you’re exempt then’ – puzzled look. Aaaaggghhhhh
Good luck to you.
First week or so here was nerve wracking. Avoiding eye contact. Rushing out of whatever shop I was in as soon as possible. Feeling people judge me.
Ultimately, despite the fact that I have all the moral and scientific right on my side in refusing a muzzle, I hate the fact that I could ever make somebody scared for their life.
That last part remains, but all the rest has long gone now. Just smile, be really polite to zealots, and ignore the masks. It will get easier I promise.
I agree Danny, it was nerve racking at first but gets so much easier. I may have been lucky but no words from anyone and only one nasty stare that I have noticed. Hold head high, walk with confidence, smile and say hello to people.
We are all here for you Annie xx
Thanks Danny. Smiling is really important. I’ve been smiling at everybody since the Lockdown began. It really makes a difference to people. If they respond with glaring eyes from behind their muzzle I smile even sweeter.
Good luck Mr Dee. Sun is shining, enjoy a muzzle free day.
The exemption process in England is a strange contrast, there is a strict mandatory face mask policy but an extremely free easy and liberal self assessment process. The BMA have advised doctors not to get involved, I have that in writing. And so I would argue that it is not an exemption tactic, it is a right given to you by the Government. If you are looking at this site and raising the question, then after 6 months of this hoo-haa you are anxious and therefore qualify for exemption.
However, the exemption process is poorly understood and going exempt can well lead to confrontation and so you need to be ready for that. Some are OK with facing this head on, well done them. For myself, I wish to avoid confrontation and so I hang the Government exemption card around my neck, I think of it in the same way as the ID lanyard you wear at work. The card preempts the first question as to why you are not wearing a mask? In my experience that has always been enough, but I do carry some printouts from the Government’s web site and the BMA advice to doctors in case… Read more »
I was compliant at the beginning, now never. No-one asks any more. Just sail through the door confidently and if asked (as I was, once), say “I’m exempt “. The key is not to break your stride. Then shop like you are enjoying it, being nice to everyone, smiling and breathing gods fresh air!
I was in IKEA this week. Nobody asked me about a mask.
I wasn’t the only person without a mask.
I’m exempt in the UK but I may need to go on a plane at some stage and from the plane hysteria I have seen it is easier to wear a mask. Cutting the inside is a brilliant idea, it will get me onto the plane without fainting.
If I have to go on a plane I’ll get myself one of those Warsaw Pact gas masks like Hitchens has. Or a full on Plague Doctor suit. If I have to follow these ridiculous dictats, I’ll highlight their ridiculousness by making fun of them.
It’s not too bad on the plane.
I got on wearing a mask and soon after took it of and started eating and drinking. You can eat and drink without a mask. I only put the mask back on at the end of the flight. And I saw a few other people like me.
And I went through airport without a mask. Nobody said anything.
the time has come to demand this Government resigns along with Labour Libs SNP get rid of all these parties repeal all the regulations fully iimmediate exit from the EU & ECHR create a written constitution that protects our rights & sovereignty https://www.getborisout.org
Culture is more important than constitutions – after all, Hitler operated under the democratic Weimar Republic’s constitution and Stalin’s Soviet Union had a constitution that guaranteed more rights than any other. That said, I do agree we now need a written constitution in particular to embed free speech rights that have been whittled away in recent decades.
It follows that you consider our own culture to be defective. What sickness do you diagnose; what treatment do you prescribe?
Website not available – how strange!
Hi guys, thanks for the news and updates. Curious to know what bearing the “Empty Cycle Lanes” bit has on the lockdown story.
Eric
They put a load in place under the guise of Social Distancing when plans had been in place for years as part of Greening The City.
I have no problem with that, I do have a problem with being lied to.
Ah, ok, thanks for the info. As a Yank veteran of riding on London streets, I do love me a good bike lane, but that does seem a bit sneaky of them.
The cycle lane is symbiotic of the push to remove us from our vehicles. The criminals that rule over us no problem whatsoever had decided by claiming the earth is under threat to ban you from using cars and motorcycles and we’ve to cycle everywhere. Maybe you’ve not noticed but everything they do is to stop you. They tax everything so you can’t afford it all the while doing what you used to be able to do. To put it in plane english every single environmentalist should be exterminated. These people are the real virus.
Ivor Cummins’ 8th September update video is now up to 378k views
remember when Sir Nigel Farage’s videos from the European Union’s “parliament” were getting millions of views? People will start to listen when they’ve had enough (and when they have something worth listening to), it’s just a matter of time. We just need the anti-lockdown “Farage” (which isn’t Nigel Farage unfortunately).
Sweet.
Anyone know a reliable source for a CV on Cummins? I found that presentation compelling, and he seems quite even-handed. But I would like to know more about his background before I point the covidanxious to his work. My search didn’t yield much beyond him apparently being some kind of internet diet guru.
Something from today. Was on shift with my like minded ‘sceptical/awake’ (hope you know what I mean) colleague and another colleague who has – it would seem up until today has rigorously observed the ‘rules’ – I have always had the upmost respect for this person and like them a great deal, but I couldn’t help feeling sooo frustrated as with regards to their outlook. We 3 were in the office today and conversation went on to the inevitable (must be an almost worldwide thing). There was a marked change in the outlook of (hate saying this) but ‘zealot’ colleague. Me and the other ‘sceptical’ colleague worked in tandem, just went about querying the narrative, I suggested UK Column and my other colleague suggested something on a similar line. Former zealot “Kath, don’t forget it’s 2 metres lovely” colleague is (we feel) definitely waking up. People are, well, I sincerely hope, are waking up.
Keep fighting and they will continue to do so.
Me and my like minded colleague really felt it today. The person I begrudgingly describe as a zealot – r\who really has observed all of the so called ‘rules’ to the nth degree- but there was a massive sea change today – it was great. The sinister ‘rule of 6’ (WTF) and the, let’s face it, most probable cancellation of Christmas or restrictions placed upon people being able to celebrate Christmas are an ‘overreach’ (sorry to use the new terminology of bollocks).
I have always been very wary of social media. I’m on Twitter and Facebook. Skeleton presence on FB, never posted anything and never will. The only thing I’ve ever posted is on Twitter (I was drunk) was in June; I said that Christmas would be cancelled – I said this as a reaction to something I saw in the Torygiraffe where the Communist Queen of Scotland was cited as saying – and this was in late April – “Christmas is going to look very different this year”…
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13213182.nicola-sturgeon-is-a-communist-xenophobe-voices-from-shires-of-england/
So we English hate the Scots?
Never the other way round, of course.
People in England i’ve found tend to over estimate the support there is for the piss poor dwarf Sturgeon. The truth of the matter is she doesn’t get anywhere close to half the population behind her. She’s propped up by delusional greens (who doesn’t despise them greens?) and limp wristed Liberals. Her time is coming though and old Alex Salmond is going to destroy the lying wee munchkin and her band of fanny licking socialists.
Is Alec sharpening his blades? He must be itching for revenge…
We don’t hear anything about Covid in the military any more
Early on there were stories about ships where almost all the crew were positive
They are surely not working in a Covid-safe way but they f they were all dying I’m sure we’d have heard about it
Question:
Why does Darth Vader sound like that?
Answer:
Because he’s wearing a mask silly.
I thought he had a sore throat.
Yip, caused by wearing a mask!!!!
The Bike Rally
From 21st Century Wire:
South Dakota Governor, Health Officials Debunk Sturgis ‘Superspreading’ Study
In a press release on Tuesday, Gov. Noem issued a harsh rebuke of the study and media reporting:
“This report isn’t science; it’s fiction. Under the guise of academic research, this report is nothing short of an attack on those who exercised their personal freedom to attend Sturgis. Predictably, some in the media breathlessly report on this non-peer reviewed model, built on incredibly faulty assumptions that do not reflect the actual facts and data here in South Dakota.“
“At one point, academic modeling also told us that South Dakota would have 10,000 COVID patients in the hospital at our peak. Today, we have less than 70. I look forward to good journalists, credible academics, and honest citizens repudiating this nonsense.”
https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/10/south-dakota-governor-health-officials-debunk-sturgis-superspreading-study/
I love South Dakota, it’s the American Sweden proudly defying the doom prophets. Because of that they’ve had similar crap before, in late April they were supposed to be the next New York after some meat factory outbreaks.
Has to be said hardly anyone lives there! Lol Would be hard to transmit any virus!
It is also the US state which fought (pluckily but unsuccessfully) against the appalling Elizabeth Dole’s legislation to raise the legal drinking age in the US to 21 in 1984. So an American at the age of 18 is old enough to die for their country, open a bank account, take out a mortgage, marry etc. etc. but too young to enjoy a beer (legally).
Kirsty Noem for President!
Wapo could only identify one death and 260 cases of infection resulting from the 400,000 people attending the Sturgis rally. Even Slate thought the report was poorly constructed, although the author didn’t think the rally should have gone ahead anyway:
https://slate.com/technology/2020/09/sturgis-rally-covid19-explosion-paper.html
Let’s look at what happened in Meade County, SD, where the rally took place. It’s population is about 25,500. So far (12 Sept.) we have:
378 cases
2 deaths
9 ever hospitalized*
*’ever hospitalized’ includes people who were taken into hospital in order to prevent transmission (say in a nursing home), not just people who were gravely ill.
That’s for the whole pandemic. I could not find county historical data for covid in SD, but I came across a local article claiming that the case count had risen dramatically after the rally, but there was no mention of additional hospitalizations or deaths. My reading of this is that the ‘cases’ are either mild or just positive tests, and that Sturgis was a successful experiment in going back to normal because the spread of infection seems to be minor and has not resulted in major hospitalizations or deaths. The real danger of the Sturgis rally… Read more »
Cows are the most dangerous animal in the UK. Tricky, those bovids.
cattle
Bidens..
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pPM0LGTjVHC6/
At minute 21 David Icke says the same.
Bro, David Icke is a delusional halfwit, fir fucks sake.
A very rich delusional halfwit
All over the globe thousands of grannies and grand papas were killed by you, the governments of the world… just following orders. Then you have the audacity to denounce us as granny killers and punish us with lockdowns and other stupidities. You’re all clinically insane.
The odd thing is they don’t give a toss if you kill granny by giving her a flu virus.
Yes – nor by denying her access to vital cancer treatments for 6 months…
They are full of bull….!
Or by not being able to have morale boosting visits from loved ones while trapped in care homes (no entertainers or pet visits either).
Yes! I have a friend whose 90-year old father has to pace up and down in his room. He’s not even allowed to walk in the corridor.
According to a 2017 review study, “a robust scientific literature has established the negative psychological effects of solitary confinement”, leading to “an emerging consensus among correctional as well as professional, mental health, legal, and human rights organizations to drastically limit the use of solitary confinement.”[2] The United Nations considers solitary confinement exceeding 15 days to be torture.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement
My mum died in a care home last year. Sign of the times that I’m glad she died last year and hasny had to live through this
The likelihood of obtaining a false-positive or false-negative diagnostic test result is influenced by factors related to the testing scenario and the test being used (e.g., sensitivity and specificity of the diagnostic test). Diagnostic tests perform optimally for detecting an infection when the pretest probability is high. Pretest probability is the likelihood that the person being tested actually has the infection. This likelihood is based on both the proportion of people in the test population or group who have the infection at a given time (prevalence) and the clinical presentation (including symptoms and known exposure) of the person being tested. In other words, the pretest probability increases with increasing prevalence in the population and clinical indications of illness in the person being tested. In contrast, tests typically perform best for excluding an infection when the pretest probability is low. Test sensitivity is the ability of a test to correctly identify persons with infection, whereas test specificity is the ability to correctly rule-out infection.
Positive predictive value is the probability that a person who has a positive test result most likely has the infection. Pretest probability and test specificity have the greatest impact on false-positive rates. As the pretest probability and… Read more »
And why Zero Covid is the biggest nonsense any right minded person has ever heard.
Please, if anyone ever is in conversation with someone who mentions Zero Covid or a local political representative who spouts it. Ask them – da fuk you gonna do bout false positives?
This was our Associate Chief Medical Officer of Health when asked about mass testing for getting kids back to school in Ontario. She outright admitted on TV that the test is rubbish and the MSM didn’t take notice. Even her last sentence is crazy — even a suspect case in school would require all contacts to be tested, therefore ensuring that someone would test positive! How do doctors spew this garbage with a straight face?
“People really think that testing is going to solve the entire problem, and it isn’t. It’s one component of a response. If you test someone today, you only know if they’re infected today. And in fact, if you’re testing in a population that doesn’t have very much covid, you’ll get false positives, almost half the time. That is, the person doesn’t actually have Covid. They have something else. They may have nothing. So, it will just complicate the picture. On the other hand, if we have evidence of a case, even a suspect case in school, all the contacts, be it a child or a teacher, would be tested.”
P.S. has anyone noticed, the deaths count today is being quite carefully descriebd in the papers as “9 people have died within 28 days of a positive test”. Wonder how many were run over by buses, or had heart attacks, or fell down the stairs, or driven to suicide by abusive lockdown regulations? Looks like the supposed rise in deaths isn’t real at all, just a few people who got tested have, as happens if you test enough people, been bumped off by something else.
This is indeed the case. It’s useful to have the definition be more clearly visible like this.
I just wrote to my MP to highlight the folly of pursuing zero “infections” or zero “deaths” as a policy, based on the nature of the tests and the methodology of the death accounting. (If you test at all then you will always have “infections”; if you have any “infections” then you will always have “deaths”.) A single link to the relevant government Covid stats page contains pretty much all that is required to show something is adrift; everything beyond that is (ever-shifting) details and stories.
Anyone in Bolton? The coronaphobes have just fiend four takeaways for undisclosed violations of the fascistic new normal. Don’t know what they did, but I bet its the sort of thing we lockdown aceptics approve of.
LA Pizza on Crompton Way, Grillicious on Tonge Moor Road, Allens Fried Chicken on Chorley Old Road and Pizza Corner on Higher Market Street all deserve your patronage, let them see that the more they say f*** you to lockdownist rules the more new customers they’ll get.
I’ll be waiting for if any places in my town get reported as being fined for similar things, then going round to them to spend and say thanks for their eforts.
A friend from the church called today as she’d been to the chemist for me. I asked would she take some heavy rubbish out for me .(i’m disabled). She agreed but insisted on donning a mask to “protect me”. The door was wide open and she was in and out in 2 minutes. Her husband is so terrified of the virus he won’t live with her. I told her about the SAGE papers admitting they wanted to scare us but she wouldn’t believe me. I’ve emailed her the link.
Have you got the link, I haven’t seen that?
https://evidencenotfear.com/how-sage-and-uk-media-created-fear-in-the-british-public/
Never mind the SAGE minutes which one in a hundred thousand may know of, even read.
Here in Northern Ireland in Health Minister himself admitted he was scare mongering to force behaviours
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52988131
He only admitted it because it had been leaked, the bastard.
i can’t but help wish ill of people like that, sorry if that makes me a bad person but fuck her
If Simon Dolan’s review fails then does that not indemnify all industry against harming customers.
If government policy that has a direct effect on public safety can be determined by an unvalidated and unverified model with large uncertainties and applied without reprisal then any engineering industry can claim this.
No need for insurance. No need for certification.
Boeing do not need to do anything for example about the 737 Max
The law is neither here nor there for the big corporations, but you are correct.
A lot of people still can’t see that we are already in a totalitarian system where anything goes for the leadership.
I will be fascinated to see how the Piers Corbyn court cases go. I believe his first case for breaking the regulations back at the beginning of May is due in court in October – that will be a small penalty if found guilty. Then we have the £10,000 protest case and the one in Sheffield from last weekend.
Let’s see how independent the courts really are (not very I suspect).
Perhaps. But the supreme court gave Boris a bloody nose last year.
I can’t wait until they jail him for non payment. We need folk like him to make a stand. They did this sort of thing to Tommy Sheridan over the Poll Tax and all they managed to do was turn him into a folk hero for idiots and get himself elected to the piss poor Scottish Parliament. They didn’t let it go though and that man as much as i disagree with almost everything he has ever said paid a heavy price by being victimised by the state. Corbyn is gonna suffer the same fate.
I support Dolan’s challenge as much as everyone on here but I’m not hopeful it will succeed after the judiciary’s anti-Brexit activism in recent years.
Yes – it is, sadly, doomed to failure. You only have to look at how dilatory the legal system has been with this, cf. Gina Miller’s challenge.
Hilarious. Diehard Brexiteers moaned incessantly about ‘how dare Gina Miller bring a judicial review to court’, vexatious litigation, going against what the majority voted for, ad nauseam . All she was after was proper Parliamentary scrutiny and debate. Just like Nolan.
Now the boot is in the other foot and they discover, oh yes, it might actually be useful to be able to challenge the arbitrary seisure of power by politicians . What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Make no mistake, BOTH actions are about liberty and the rule of law. However the present top legal bod in Johnson’s team, our Attorney General Suella Braverman, is a highly politicised appointment, and she thinks judicial review is quaint and needs reform. Not a good omen.
If you think that was the motivation of those who used Miller, you’re a complete f@ckwit.
Would it not have been better to elaborate on this motivation, rather than resorting to abuse?
Dear John why o why do people like you always have to say can you speak in words that i prove off? It’s pathetic and somewhat annoying. If, say, i tell you to away and fuck yourself would you consider that bit much i i should have said away and have sexual intercourse with yourself or would these words also be unacceptable for you to accept? How about we let everyone say what the fuck they want in any fucking way they fucking want to fucking say it and you shut your fucking complaining stupid fucking mouth you tedious fucking Puta, Por favor
It was.
Gina Miller and her wealthy backers had the welcome mat laid out for them by a politicised Remainer Supreme Court. Litigants seeking to challenge May’s sell out deal got nowhere, weren’t even given the chance of a proper hearing. I suspect Dolan will get similar short shrift.
They got a proper hearing all right, and a proper ticking off. Magisterial.
This government really wants to mess with the rule of law to get its own way, as Dominic Cummings, Vote Leave, and cronies have shown themselves cynical enough to try already (in a limited and specific way, of course). Don’t therefore be surprised at the way the present law making process is being subverted in precisely the way Jonathan Sumption dissects.
I was thinking of the prorogation dispute actually. Historically, prorogation was only limited with parliamentary statues. But the Supreme Court completely overruled that precedent with their own judge-made statue pulled from thin air.
Sorry, just because you don’t like a decison doesn’t make it wrong
Indeed:
‘Parliament is sovereign as a matter of domestic law and can pass legislation which is in breach of the UK’s Treaty obligations. Parliament would not be acting unconstitutionally in enacting such legislation. This ‘dualist’ approach is shared by other, similar legal systems such as Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Under this approach, treaty obligations only become binding to the extent that they are enshrined in domestic legislation. Whether to enact or repeal legislation, and the content of that legislation, is for Parliament and Parliament alone. This principle was recently approved unanimously by the Supreme Court in R (Miller) v Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union [2017] UKSC 5.’
The lack of parliamentary involvement in debating coronavirus measures has been a bit of a worry but should be addressed next week…….
What she was after was trying to stop Brexit all paid for by sinister forces that now have control of our country. You’ve really slipped up here and exposed yourself. I’m afraid i now consider you “Sylvie” to be a agent provocateur working for the Clampdown people, here to sow division. You’re claim about Gina Miller, not even her real name since she’s not even British and changed it to hide this fact, proves it.
One of us (in a group of six) was forced to scan the Track and Trace barcode in the pub today. Landlord then tells us that from Monday every customer will have to scan it.
Big Brother is watching you.
What about those without smartphones? Time to dig out that ancient Nokia brick
A Nokia 130 is what I have for “special days out” with non-small groups of people, but given where things seem to be going it might become my main phone before long.
I’ve got one of those, but it’s genuinely my only phone.
And I’ve never texted: phone calls and reminders are enough.
Boss ^^^^
Yes, I think Nokia ‘bricks’ will be making a comeback!
No need. You can use one from about 7 years ago. They are slimmer than modern smartphones.
Doesn’t have to be ancient. My new phone cost £10, and came loaded with £10 credit. It does texts and phone calls.
I use a nokia. It’s slimmer than a smartphone. I use it mostly for taking photographs and occasional texting and phone calls.
Does that mean no phone no entry in that pub? I suspect they are desperate for everyone to carry a mobile phone around at all time for movement tracking and the inevitable health passport they will try to bring in (unless we resist now).
I dont have a smartphone, even a mobile phone, can I take the one from my house?
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The last time I went to a pub was 14th February. Never again.
I went on March 12th and feel the same about returning.
2019
I’ve been in a few places that have insisted on this but when I’ve said I don’t want to, have relented easily enough. Unlike some mask zealots who just hate not being in control.
I don’t think that’s correct. It’s just one member of the group, as I understand it.
They are changing the law to make it mandatory.They are tightening the screw.We have accepted the principle and although it has been easy to avoid masks,track and trace etc it won’t be any longer.We are being prepared for the vaccine that much is obvious.I wish those who see this as cock up and arse covering would wake up.
You’re right, everyone is dreaming here. We are all fucked and the sinister forces that control our government are bringing in China as our new model. They’ll still be folk here going blah blah blah while the army are pulling you out the car and force tasing you before removing you to the Quarantine Zone to be tested and vaxed and sent to work camps, where you’ll never be seen again. The strong people of this country will need to resort to the tactics of the French Resistance during the war. We are in a fight for our lives and i suspect millions are gonna be killed. No exaggeration whatsoever. Al, you nice old ladies going to church and being nice, you’re finished. Once they’ve taken your money, they’re gonna take your grandchildren and work them in camps. None of us will be allowed private enterprise and we’ll all be working for the state doing what they say to keep us all safe. This is their play and nothing short of a fight to the death
If I leave my phone at home then I can scan their code. Write my name and give a false number… simples.
Take no phone, pay with cash, write down a fake number.
Someone must have Matt Hancocks mobile number
And, yet again, the people that apply the law as part of their business haven’t looked at it. ‘Rule of six’ from Monday, mandatory test and trace from Friday 18th.
Serious question for those who believe it’s all about the Great Reset/Agenda 21:
To what level in the UK do you think the plan is known and agreed? – Johnson alone? Most of the cabinet? All MPs, Civil Service & judiciary? Councillors too?
The further down the scale, the less believable it becomes.
Since a few MPs are showing signs of independent thought, the likely level would seem to be somewhere in the cabinet. Unless you believe those MPs are a deliberate part of the plot to fool us into thinking they’re independent-minded!
I’m not mocking anyone’s views, I genuinely want to hear what you think.
I’d say government-wise maybe only a few in cabinet..Johnson and Hancock..
Plus Tobias Ellwood…
I think not many know the whole plan.
Common purpose bods probably know about it..
Prince Charles has talked about the reset as well..
I seem to recall something that showed Prince Charles is directly involved in the WEF in some way.
Add Gove, Cummings and Ms Carrie?
Yes – forgot Cummings!
I doubt Johnson either knows or cares. Ditto Hancock. They are just having way too much fun making everyone’s lives a misery.
In terms of what could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in court, I think the knowledge regarding any plan to transform global society would go no further down the chain of command than organisations like the WHO, WEF etc.
And they’re likely to become very, very rich….
Precisely, so why should they give a flying fuck about inflicting pain on the entire global population when there’s a pot of gold waiting for them?
Remember all the leading global politicians and business people attend Davos (organised by the World Economic Forum) every year and hold meetings about what direction to take the world. They are all very aware of the plans as they are implemented through their department’s strategy, the plans continue no matter what the government in power is.
The UN is a forum for all the elite technocrats to decide global policies. All the polices are agreed to at senior level politically in every nation (the ordinary voters never get a say on any of it).
This is huge in terms of how things shift. While various attendees contribute, a common ‘theme’ emerges from events such as Davos. This theme is pounced on by many strategy groups who sell their wares to large corporations in the form of business strategy ‘points of view’ which align to this ‘theme’ (Read your Big 6 consulting groups).
The corps know that they need to swivel their image to align to this theme, be it Green, Diversity, Globalism, whatever. The shift should be implemented and budgets assigned to ensure it happens. The big central players in money markets move in behind this.
Why? Because competition, true free market competition is dangerous to these groups. They would rather act in concert to slice and dice the spoils of the global marketplace in such a way. Its called first mover advantage. Its pays to be part of the network.
They don’t have to know about it, they just have to be told what to do.
Every town/city in the UK has been given funding with the instruction to get people out of their cars. Here in Sheffield I have a friend that is a planner and he has confessed to me that they now have to use stick rather than carrot to get people out of cars, and that is what is behind the scheme to turn one lane in a dual-carriageway ringroad into a cycle lane. It caused chaos during June-September before being pulled due to resident complaints. He’s never heard of The Great Reset, but he’s directly implementing the policies.
That’s a good point, but at these lower levels it’s more likely to be “groupthink” than implementation of a top-down plan. When I worked in industry I noticed fads and fashions spreading rapidly in the corporate world, with different companies all introducing similar policies. Globalisation and the internet have intensified this pattern. So whether it’s an actual high-level conspiracy or powerful people exerting their influence, the end result is much the same.
I don’t consider myself to be especially clever at all, but I am generally inquisitive and I tend to question things, I put that down to my upbringing. I don’t mean to sound arrogant but I struggle to comprehend how some can’t see the bigger picture. I’ve trawled through a lot of the WEF’s website, UN’s etc (of deary me) and looked elsewhere for months now, but it doesn’t take much to get a good idea of what is potentially or indeed likely being planned. One doesn’t have to look very far at all – a couple of ‘Computing Forever’ videos do the trick. I think people have just been so brainwashed via MSM driven fear.
Agenda 21 has been built into the UK governance system down to council level for years. The people lower down the chain just get told to meet a target of complete some project and are completely unaware of the part they are playing in implementing the project as a whole. Only the very senior politicians and civil servants really have knowledge of Agenda 21 objectives (it is very complex and detailed). Multinational business leaders are completely aware of the plans and global technology companies are the real driving force.
The Great Reset agenda is 100% real and you will see it brought in (why do many people still call it a conspiracy when it is even on the World Economic Forum website?) the major financial institutions in the City of London all know what is happening. Senior people in finance aren’t stupid and will undoubtably be making a killing financially with insider information – as they always do. Look at the share prices of certain technology companies (especially surveillance and big data) people know the direction the world is going.
Hopefully the masses will fight back for a world that benefits them, not enslaves them.
How will it affect the masses, I mean in every day life?
I would suggest you will see ever increasing levels of top down monitoring and control using technology. China’s smart cities are a good example of what is possible, with their social credits system and widely used facial recognition technology linked to digital payments. You can get a driving penalty issued by AI and have the money instantly debited from your bank account and your social credit score updated – it is all possible now and taking place and is well documented even in mainstream media.
We must stop it from happening in the UK – it isn’t being done for our convenience, it is being done for our control.
Smart Cities are a rabbit hole in themselves. New York is due to incorporate 4 smart cities this year. Big money and influence from a certain Middle East state and ex mayor of NYC.
Check out Whitney Webb for more.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/author/whitney-webb/
See Mark Windows Windows on the World youtube for podcasts that cover this exact topic with the UK in mind. Mark always references source documents and clearly describes local area changes and where there lineage comes from.
Excellent post.
Agenda 21 is not exactly secret though. So given that you can easily look into this stuff, why do the people not know what this means for their own lives?
I think ultimately it requires a leader to guide people to an alternative. The people alone will simply go along with it until it is too late.
Small group within the cabinet must be aware. Back benchers/ cllrs no idea whats going on and kept busy with insame workloads. Common purpose acts as an elite club – you’re in it so follow because it’s what the cool folk do. Councils know these goals to regionalise the nation are coming from somewhere – it’s flattering they are the ones to carry it out. They visit Habitat conferences and see the future presented in ways they can implement. They are even shown how to ‘take communities with them’ as they ‘lead change’.
Our dim cllr wasn’t aware heroin production hss increased year on year since Afganistan after 9/11 yet heroin deaths and associated troubles make up a large part of their work load. Myopic.
The real sinister work is done by the lobby groups and experts. The world they inhabit is murky.
As an analogy look at the climate assembly that’s just happened. 1000 people all pleased to be selected, well meaning people. Fed data by handlers that is biased although contradicts enough to give the illusion of decision making. Add in delphi technique and hey presto you have 1000 public people asking for shared heat pumps and hydrogen… Read more »
What’s the delphi technique?
Thanks to all for your thought-provoking comments. I certainly think it’s an important part of our campaign to make more people aware of these high-level plans. It’s like the opposite end of the scale to the day-to-day stuff about shops, pubs, masks etc, which I also think is worth discussing since everyone can relate to it.
I’m afraid disseminating conspiracy theories does nothing for the credibility of our campaign whatever.
I’m sorry Edward, I am personally sick and tired of this conspiracy theory.
The average MP is thick. That includes Johnson and most of his cabinet.
That is the problem.
The government have been secretly following Agenda 21/30 for years.
Sustainable development,Zero carbon all flow from it.On a cabinet level I think Gove who is very keen on Zero carbon is in on it.Johnson was educated when he disappeared from view.Hancock is so dim he probably believes in all the Covid bollocks.This is all speculation but the civil service run the country and they are thoroughly infiltrated by common purpose.Uk Column had a document leaked to them about the government using this crisis to re purpose the way we are governed and to withdraw support from industry’s that were to be obsolete in 10 years.Travel industry anyone
I predict that you’ll line up for your vax like a good little camper and you’ll be unaware of what happens to those who don’t. Off course it won’t be a secret, everyone knew where the trains with the jews on board was going but you like even some of them people on the trains themselves refused to believe it. Some of these people even thought they were going for a shower. That’s you.
Not sure if this has been posted but more of the same is needed https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/hse-rejects-senior-doctor-s-comments-covid-19-is-less-severe-than-annual-flu-1.4353641?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR0Y832s1SAy_nHMwZdYOlqM0tu_B4srge2AClpAz440JCQA6SKO6eZKFtI
Justice deferred is justice denied.