The Prime Minister is facing pressure to stave off an NHS staffing crisis by reducing the coronavirus self-isolation period to five days. The Times has more.
Health service chiefs warned that staff absences caused by the requirement to isolate for seven days after a positive test risked causing a bigger problem than the number of Covid-19 patients being admitted to hospitals.
Scientists, health professionals, hospitality chiefs and Conservative MPs have urged the government to copy the US, which has cut the self-isolation period to five days. Last week Johnson’s government reduced it from ten to seven days.
Up to 800,000 people are estimated to be in isolation, causing widespread disruption to public services from bin collections to rail services and to businesses across the country.
The number of people going into isolation is growing, with another daily record of 117,093 cases in England yesterday. Wales recorded 12,378 new infections, adding up to a new UK daily record of 129,471, even though Scotland and Northern Ireland were yet to report their figures.
There are fears that schools will face a chaotic start to term next week if infection rates continue to rise.
Paul Hunter, professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia, said the isolation period in Britain would have to be cut further. He said Covid would become “effectively just another cause of the common cold”, telling the BBC: “We’re going to have to let people who are positive go about their normal lives as they would do with any other cold.
“I think the whole issue of how long are we going to be able to allow people to self-isolate if they’re positive is going to have to be discussed fairly soon, because I think this is a disease that’s not going away.”
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For Christ sake. Brains of fucking Britain running this place. “This disease is not going away” only taken this prick 18 months to catch up with those with half a brain.
I hear you Henry….it’s embarrassing that these are called “experts”. The common cold kills vulnerable people every year, dare I suggest that COVID is just another one (and always has been)?
Something lacking for the last two years…. perspective.
No isolation necessary….if you’re sick, you stay home, if you’re not sick, then you go to work and help yourself and society.
The truly selfish are the daily testers!!!!
“The truly selfish are the daily testers!!!!”
Please don’t forget that they may also have been bombarded, for nigh on two years, with nightmare adverts ( viz. Whitty’s disgraceful appearance recently) and pysop garbage which others have seen through – “we” are not all the same, and the constant ramping of fear and misinformation has hit the vulnerable very hard. After all, the medical so called profession has had us all believe their agenda regarding heart disease, cholesterol and shoved antibiotics and anti depressants down the throats of patients ( aka victims) for decades whilst ignoring real world studies and data; we may yet have a very long way to go with this charade.
If you’re free of symptoms (i.e. fit to work) then work in a covid ward.
Omicron sounds akin to a case of hayfever.
This summer half the population will have asymptomatic hayfever! Should we lock down from the threat of pandemic pollen?
Isolate grass. Put flower coverings on plants. Can’t be too careful.
stop growing crops, starvation over a cold
Henry, it’s time to let people on the bandwagon not curse them for being wrong for so long. The Professor is absolutely right by Spring we need to stop testing, isolating and really caring. Sure, that should be true no but government runs slowly. I’ll take all the concerts possible.
‘[I]t’s time to let people on the bandwagon not curse them for being wrong for so long.’
On the contrary, every single one of those who have been complicit in the monstrous and unlawful policies over the last nearly two years needs to be reminded at every opportunity that they have the blood of untold lives on their hands. Then they need to be reminded of the misery heaped on countless more due not just to the loss of those lives/loved ones but also to a myriad of devastating effects of lockdowns and the other arbitrary decress of this tinpot dictatorship.
‘The Professor is absolutely right by Spring we need to stop testing, isolating and really caring.’
No, it should stop now. This minute. There should never have been this dystopian, unscientific mass testing of the healthy, ‘self-isolation’, or any of the other grotesque measures.
It’s not about a virus and never has been.
Indeed – and since we’ve been told a million times that wearing a mask ‘protects others’ then exactly why should asymptomatic NHS staff self isolate at all?
I always get so depressed (or should I say even more depressed) when some expert names an arbitrary date a couple of months hence for measures to stop. It needs to stop right now, no ifs, buts or maybes but it won’t.
A pragmatic standpoint which seems sensible.
Problem: If Ferguson et al get away with this again, they’ll try to start the same circus again when (not if) the opportunity arises. The reason that bird flu and swine flu (and mad cow diseases, fwiw) never took off was not for want of the experts trying. It was because the pathogen they had enthusiastically hailed as their saviour from the drudgery of normal times turned out to be completely benign.
There’s a reason to assume that the so-called Spanish flu was already a similar exercise in applied hysterics: A fourth primary source from the period I’m meanwhile familiar with (Ernst Jünger, In Stahlgewittern) actually mentions it, but only in passing and he has only heard of that being a problem somewhere. A highly contagious and highly lethal disease would have turned the German trenches on the western front of 1918 into a great open-air mortuary, considering that literally millions of malnourished soldiers were cramped together in glorified makeshift accomodations dug into the earth there.
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Of course its not going away, the flu (renaimed covid-19) has been with us for a very long time, and now in their desperation to generate more figures, they started to include common Cold symptoms as positive covid ‘cases’.
Only their testing regime can maintain this shit show as we see the winter pingdemic doing what it was designed to do by roughing up the economy.
In fairness, Hunter has often been one of the more sensible voices – this comment is clearly aimed at the general public who in many cases do seem to have a bizarre belief that it is all going to go away if everyone ‘follows the rules’ with sufficient fervour.
Laughing fit to bust here.
Sack healthy, pure-blooded staff.
Allow toxic, death-bearing staff to tend patients.
Yay.
And all the world became a blur of moving goalposts.
The End.
Just stop testing.
If your are a medic dealing directly with vulnerable patients and have symptoms take a couple of days off.
If you don’t have symptoms carry on working.
It’s not rocket science.
Dangerous fascism!!
Fight fascism, let only the government tell you where and when and how you can work!
Ar commune-ities!
Saef. Saef…
And what symptoms would those be?
But you said it is a killer disease! Which lie is the current truth?!
If you can cut to five days for isolation, you can cut to zero days. Bet your life however that when the next scariant arrives, it’s back to 10 days again!
That will depend on where we are at with the Reset.
End the case-demic, only test symptomatic people. But then, the whole thing would be over.
When the food crisis comes, rest well in the knowledge that the same group of globalists who prepared the ground for this shit show with ‘exercises’ have gamed out a global food crisis for 2022 too.
Ain’t it funny when these “exercises” all end with the solution they’ve been aiming for.
Food Chain Reaction crisis simulation, funded by Rockefellers, ends with global carbon tax (November 2015): https://cargill.com/story/food-chain-reaction-simulation-ends-with-global-carbon-tax “In the face of a steep price spike with looming global food shortages in 2022.” File – https://cna.org/cna_files/pdf/IQR-2015-U-012427.pdf
Carbon taxes are for the first time globalists looting wage-proxies on a global scale tax.
The irony of plant food being blamed for a lack of food is probably appealing to their deviant sense of humour.
It’s way worse than a tax scam. With programable CBDC, social carbon credit system, and UBI, the banksters have total control.
It’s not a tax scam, it’s global slavery.
for those who are left…
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/tyranny/the-stupid-will-believe-it-and-ask-to-be-treated-pandemic-to-depopulate-1981/
I think there’s only a difference in nomenclature between taxes on work and slavery.
Thanks Imp, at least for understanding what’s going on. I have seen the Attali work elsewhere. Unfortunately it rings true.
Don’t test anyone, other than in hospital if it is required when deciding on suitable treatment. If someone feels rough and spends a few days in bed at home there is no need to test.
The government could start this by withdrawing all free tests other than when a hospital doctor decides it’s necessary.
Because he’s in Norwich, Hunter is the go-to on all things covid for the EDP local rag. He’s nothing if not inconsistent. One minute it’s apocalypse and lock everybody up forever, then permanent face nappies, and now slight optimism tinged with reality.
Like most of his fellow covid gurus, he’s a scientific Vicar of Bray.
These people both want to get the maximum out of the current opportunity and avoid being torn to pieces by an angry mob when the swindle blows up. During autumn, that is, before Omicron, Ferguson himself was in the cautiously optimistic camp. He didn’t revert to type until it became clear that another round on the pandemic circuit was actually going to happen.
What’s not going away is tyranny, unless we refuse to comply.
We’re refusing! Aint going away!
I presume this is only for “fully” “vaccinated” people though
Not really, they’ll be long gone.
Ooooh five days. Very sciencey. But are you sure 5 days 12 hours wouldn’t be even more sciencey? What about 4 days 18 hours and 27 minutes? would that be safe? Oh please professor, I’m terrified, I’m begging you, how long does THE SCIENCE recommend I isolate? What about 20 years? Would that be overkill? Oh damn just to be on the safe side what about instead of isolating we just slaughter everyone in the village once someone tests positive? And burn down the crops? Would that be enough? Kill the pets too? Should I hang garlic around my neck as well just to be safe? I want to be safe, and the only thing that keeps me safe is science. So please, tell me.
Very sciencey. Luv it, Loop!
Hypothetical Gov science person looking official in response:
It’s those kinds of people making those kinds of flippant remarks that are doing such a disservice to the heroic men and women of our national health service, battling around the clock against this terrible, terrible disease. This is not an exact science, and we are doing our utmost to strike a balance between sensible and effective measures (Blair-esque hand gesturing) that work and are proven to save lives, and letting people get on with some semblance of normality during this unprecedented time. Look, (fake exacerbation) nobody has suffered more during this pandemic than those working the hardest to stop it, and I think people who make those kinds of flippant remarks should really show a little more humanity take your vaccines take your vaccines take your vaccines.
Thanks to the person who said that you can report the NHS Booster text message to Ofcom as scam by messaging 7726. I did so and then when I got an automated thanks message asking me for the number I was reporting, it gave me childish pleasure to respond:
I can’t see a number. It was labelled NHS boosters and must be a scam because it says “Every adult needs a COVID-19 booster vaccine to protect against Omicron” which is a blatant untruth. I’d be grateful if you could block all communications to me from these liars and, ideally, shut their whole operation down.
What is the medical definition of “need”? I need to eat a good diet, but I also can survive without it and met plenty of octogenarians who admit they never ate their vegetables. I need to get exercise but…no, I do need that for my sanity. But need?
Do my two jabs and prior infection really mean I need a booster? That doesn’t prevent against transmission. And isn’t tuned to Omicron. And for a variant with a very tiny death rate?
Need. Hmm, to quote the greatest movie of all time, “I do not think that word means what you think it does.” Never more right Inigo.
The whole thing is “inconceivable”!
If you feel ill in other words the old fashioned thing of having symptoms of cold or flu, you don’t want to go to work, you want to stay at home and take paracetamol, Remember those days?
If you don’t feel sick why test?, just carry on with life. Remember just like we used to.
Of course that means a huge downturn in profits for the friends of the Government cabinet, and it means that the Government would have to show some humility and say they had been wrong, so its never going to happen under this cabinet,
Please don’t take this personally.
Take a paracetamol, the default position of the NHS. Why not take something to unblock your nose too.
A quick summary from a Google search.
‘Paracetamol seems to work by blocking chemical messengers in the brain that tell us we have pain. Paracetamol also reduces fever by affecting the chemical messengers in an area of the brain that regulates body temperature’.
I would have thought, when it comes to keeping you healthy, your brain can do a better job of it. If it wants to increase your body temperature then let it. Who knows, there could be other benefits you haven’t considered.
While I’m on the subject of stating the bleeding obvious, if your brain decides it’s better to block up your nose then let it do so, there’s probably a good reason, like preventing an attack from another virus etc while sorting out the existing.
It almost seems like the pharmaceutical industry aren’t interested in curing people.
Pharma doesn’t make money out of healthy people.
and they have succeeded in convincing healthy people they are not, the remedy for which is “something I made earlier”…lots of it.
Here’s a novel thought from pre”the science” old days, if people are unwell they don’t go to work. If they are well they go to work.
Far too revolutionary.
B R A K E S O F F……. let’s go, you mad bas***ds!
Take a longer term perspective on NHS staff absences due to COVID – yes they are up in December but they started 1 Dec 2021 at low point about 1/10 of peak and 1/2 of average level over pandemic so the increase in December is not significant in perspective.
If they do this for NHS staff then they have to do it for teachers.
Childrens education is as important if not more so. Not to mention all the other knock on effects – mental health etc – that kids suffer by not being in school.
Actually thinking about it this should apply to all key workers. All those self-appointed ‘key workers’ who revelled in their ‘superiority’ last year should now be forced to return to work after 5 days because they are so ‘important’.
I understand there is a shortage of LFT, I personally have never had one and if requested I just lie. But I’m thinking of getting LFT tests and just binning them to add to the shortage.
The fewer LFT in circulation the better as far as I’m concerned.
The testing and self isolation are intrinsically linked, you can’t get rid of one without the other. Most working people aren’t able to take time off sick without losing pay and earning a strike under the company absence policy. If those people can take time off, get paid for it by the govt, and tell their employer they can’t come to work because the govt said so (rather than being too ill to work) they might be able to reduce the possibility of losing their job. The current system can’t be dismantled piecemeal, and by the time to govt get round to it it’ll be a behemoth with a life of its own. Refusal to comply is the quickest way out.
I understand that you can claim £500 if you are unable to do your job at home. So minimum wagers, like supermarket shelf stackers, get together with somebody who has “tested” positive and have a party. They then all get pinged as being in contact with somebody who’s positive and have to isolate. 10 days off, no questions asked and £500, what’s not to like if your young in a crappy job and want to hang out with your mates.
Only works if the virus exists and the tests actually work. Likely fail on both counts.
Well, we’ve got to do something because in April, we’re forced to sack the 0.000000000000357% of dirty, filthy NHS staff that refuse to get vaccinated.
If I was dying in hospital, I’d insist that any staff that comes near me is fully vaccinated. In fact, I’d insist they should have had 6 doses just to be double protected.
I’d rather die than be treated back to health by a dirty, disgusting, vile, diseased, viciously-stupid, uneducated unvaccinated lesser-than-human nurse as because we all know, these people are pure filth.
Your post has been flagged as containing excessive sarcasm. On the other hand, Savid Javid called and asked if you’d like a job?
Wow, WHO’da thought it, to gain control of the world’s population, terrorise them instantly into submission and fear, make them do things from the utterly destructive to the downright ridiculous, all they needed to do is weaponise the most common illness in the world, that we have been living with and surviving from since we walked on two legs, one which has legs of its own every year, one that can be relied upon to always be around…the upper respiratory tract infection otherwise known as the common cold, or in more severe cases, the flu. Gone are the days when you hauled yourself into work on your knees, bunged up and dropping like a tap, for fear that if you took a sick day, you’d be questioned about it or lose a day’s pay. Now you have to be tested to see if you’re “ill” even if you present no symptoms and if the little stick says yes (even if it means no) you have to shut yourself away for a week! The billions being made from this scam is off the scale, and all those with their trotters in those troughs, is laughing all the way to the bank.
Oh, so it’s all about politics, not health?
Nurse fired for being un-jabbed, then asked to come back due to staff shortages.
Manufactured crises keep the fake pandemic rolling.
Fuck the NHS
And the medical reasons? Downticker. Over to you.
I’ve had my annual cold. Thanks immune system. No medical reason for the Vaxx.
‘Alleged infection rates’ might be a useful correction. Is it not a continued aftermath of a crazy ‘testing regime’?