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Despite a Tsunami of Condemnation, Sweden’s Approach to Covid Hasn’t Ended In Disaster

by Luke Perry
8 November 2021 1:16 PM

When major Western nations committed themselves to top-down draconian lockdown measures, Sweden was largely alone in allowing life to continue as it had been before. This did not stop journalists or academics, both at home and abroad, from accusing the Nordic nation of performing a dangerous and deadly experiment. But Sweden has fared much better than Western nations which repeatedly shut their societies down for months on end (a fact largely ignored by the mainstream media). Johan Anderberg, writing in UnHerd, has more.

Until recently, prohibition remained the largest experiment in social engineering a democracy had ever undertaken. And then, in early 2020, a new virus began to spread from China. Faced with this threat, the world’s governments responded by closing schools, banning people from meeting, forcing entrepreneurs to shut their businesses and making ordinary people wear face masks. Like prohibition, this experiment provoked a debate. In all the democracies of the world, freedom was weighed against what was perceived as security; individual rights versus what was considered best for public health.

Few now remember that for most of 2020, the word ‘experiment’ had negative connotations. That was what Swedes were accused of conducting when we, unlike the rest of the world, maintained some semblance of normality. The citizens of this country generally didn’t have to wear face masks; young children continued going to school; leisure activities were largely allowed to continue unhindered…

During the year that followed, the virus continued to ravage the world and, one by one, the death tolls in countries that had locked down began to surpass Sweden’s. Britain, the United States, France, Poland, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Spain, Argentina, Belgium, all countries that had variously shut down playgrounds, forced their children to wear facemasks, closed schools, fined citizens for hanging out on the beach and guarded parks with drones, have all been hit worse than Sweden. At the time of writing, more than 50 countries have a higher death rate. If you measure excess mortality for the whole of 2020, Sweden (according to Eurostat) will end up in 21st place out of 31 European countries. If Sweden was a part of the U.S., its death rate would rank number 43 of the 50 states.

This fact is shockingly underreported. Consider the sheer number of articles and TV segments devoted to Sweden’s foolishly liberal attitude to the pandemic last year, as well as the daily reference to figures that are forgotten today. Suddenly, it is as if Sweden doesn’t exist. When the Wall Street Journal recently published a report from Portugal, it described how the country “offered a glimpse” of what it would be like to live with the virus. This new normal involved, among other things, vaccine passports and face masks at large events like football matches. Nowhere in the report was it mentioned that in Sweden you can go to football matches without wearing a facemask, or that Sweden, with a smaller proportion of Covid deaths over the course of the pandemic, had ended virtually all restrictions. Sweden has been living with the virus for some time.

The WSJ is far from alone in its selective reporting. The New York Times, Guardian, BBC, The Times, all cheerleaders for lockdowns, can’t fathom casting doubt on their efficacy.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Lockdown DebateSweden

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Sweden followed standard procedure, nearly everyone else followed mediaeval superstition imported from a communist dictatorship that has concentration camps.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Florida is also a good model. They got the Delta variant in late summer just like the rest of the US. It receded just like elsewhere despite zero interventions from the State government (and blocking any Federal interventions as well).

Last edited 3 years ago by TheGreenAcres
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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

South Dakota was excellent too.

Kristi Noem 2024# because she’s literate and has her own hair, unlike Captain Underpants Donald Trump.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

I think SD was pretty much the only US state that did not enact any kind of covid related restrictions from the start, though some local governments did there (but I don’t think they ever had a “lockdown” as such).

As Noem said in a tweet a few months back “If you’re still worried, stay at home, wear a mask, get vaccinated – we’re not going to mandate anything”. Aside from their instincts that this kind of madness was not warranted or useful, their basic position was that they did not think the government did or should have any such powers to order lawful businesses to close etc. They seem to have a way more libertarian culture than we do.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

If one U.S. state was going to summon the courage to secede, it might be South Dakota. I’d love to see them do it. I might even move my family to this state. If they do it, leave them alone. It would be interesting to see if the sky falls on South Dakota if it does leave the union.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

I would seriously consider moving there if it weren’t more or less impossible for ordinary people to emigrate to the US.

But I think the US is only letting in the vaxxed anyway, so not an option.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

But I read that Japan and the UK are the only major countries that don’t mandate childhood vacs as a condition of school attendance whereas most of the USA does. It’s been said that it’s a more Germanic culture than ours, less ‘live and let live’.

Japan’s a strange example of ‘liberty’ but they did very naughty things before 1945. We then imposed a new constitution on them that even banned lockdowns when it came to 2020.

Hancock was trying to mandate childhood vaccines before 2020. He’s obviously been told the benefits of medical fascism by his mentors.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

Interesting. I didn’t realise so many places mandated childhood vaxxing.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Kristi Noem actually wanted lockdown and more powers but wasn’t given them by her legislature.
Only thereafter did she champion the no lockdown course.
She has some other problematic views as well.
https://jonschweppe.substack.com/p/actually-kristi-noem-supported-covid
My trust in her after learning that went to the same level that I have in BoJo.
DeSantis on the other hand did something very, very few people, andveven fewer politicians, are capable of: he changed his mind based upon the facts and took full responsibility for both decisions.
Not to speak of his absolutely stellar performance and leadership for freedom and anti-discrimination since then.
Give me DeSantis as POTUS over Noem at anytime.
Kristi Noem actually wanted lockdown and more powers but wasn’t given them by her legislature.
Only thereafter did she champion the no lockdown course.
She has some other problematic views as well.
My trust in her after learning that went to the same level that I have in BoJo.
DeSantis on the other hand did something very, very few people, andveven fewer politicians, are capable of: he changed his mind based upon the facts and took full responsibility for both decisions.
Not to speak of his absolutely stellar performance and leadership for freedom and anti-discrimination since then.
Give me DeSantis as POTUS over Noem at anytime.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Fake news drivel.

Kristi Noem has been consistent in opposing lockdown. Comparing her to Kim Jong Johnson is utterly absurd when that great fat communist fraud imposed three lockdowns and delayed the easing of restrictions as long as he could get away with.

You conveniently don’t mention what other views of her are ‘problematic’.

Ron DeSantis did lock Florida down but has been steadfast in opposing lockdown since then.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Donald ‘warp speed’ Trump.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Captain Underpants.

I have not forgotten Trump was for lockdown until he found out his base rejected it.

I remember him berating the Republican Governor of Georgia for opening up too fast

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CiacBiab
CiacBiab
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

In fairness to him, at that time he was probably being encouraged to lockdown by the same kind of “experts” that we have here, when less was known about the “risk” posed by the kung flu, or any possible ulterior motives some of those “experts” had.

I don’t believe he supports lockdowns now.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  CiacBiab

Trump is a populist and weathervane, completely unprincipled.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Sweden was mates with Germany during WW2. It is a country filled with boring people, with boring programmes on their telly-visions.
If you fancy a lifetime of boredom, then Sweden may be the country for you.
It’s not the paradise people here make it out to be.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I quite like England, or used to. But given a choice between permanently being under threat of lockdowns and some kind of stability in a more boring country, I would be tempted.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

There haven’t really been any lockdowns in the UK, people have been free to get out into the countryside and go walking / cycling, and go to the shops, etc. Sweden is probably OK if you have lots of money for a nice house and a nice car, and like popping into Norway for some mountain scenery, otherwise it’s miles and miles of nothingness, forest, lakes, fields.
I think the English have a better sense of humour and are more friendly. Could be that it’s that I’m from England and miss ‘the old country’.
England has so many varied types of scenery and, of course, a nice coastline with beaches.

It’s a pity the ‘Covid Circus’ has ruined English pubs, with the staff serving in plastic made-in-China visors.

But for those who haven’t been to Sweden, I would recommend a drive around it. And now you can do that very easily by putting the Google Street View Man onto various roads in Sweden. Norway is also a great country to drive around, though they have neglected the roads and many are in really atrocious condition.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes, I would agree with all of that. I dare say it’s possible to have a grand life in Sweden, but I am not Swedish so would take a bit of getting used to. I found them pretty friendly and warm actually.

The first “lockdown” in the UK was slightly intimidating – people out and about did stick out like a sore thumb. Since then, not so much. But I’ve always been bothered more by being surrounded by a population of brainwashed zombies and governed by evil liars than by the restrictions (though I should say my job has not been endangered – I would feel differently if my job or business had been screwed by lockdowns).

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Beefbeefbeef
Beefbeefbeef
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

“There haven’t really been any lockdowns in the UK” – eh?!

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

No one said it was paradise.

However, Sweden followed precedent, evidence and science, unlike the rest of the world.

You conveniently ignore the torture of lockdown.

Almost no one alive during World War Two is alive now.

Sweden was neutral then, unlike Italy and Japan.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

There are positives to life in Sweden like the scenery, the food and the fact that it is still a pleasure to drive there. However, I have to agree with Emerald Fox about the negatives. It also gets super dark and cold in winter and booze is still rather expensive. I am with Julian though in that I prefer boring to the unpleasantness of the UK, so I have thought of returning to my former husband’s country. They aren’t all boring in Sweden anyway, including my sadly now deceased ex

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

You obviously know the square root of FA about Sweden and your grasp of the word ‘neutrality’ as it applied in WW2 is a bit flakey too

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmTikukU45o

HEHE

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

It’s just like watching a CNN/ABC/NBCetc interview of a woke comedienne…

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Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
3 years ago

It does make you wonder how much behind the scenes pressure the Swedish Govt had top endure. Bribery, Blackmail and coercion surely must have done the rounds within the inner circle of the Swedish Govt.

Unless, part of the plan was to have a dissenting country which us non-vaxxed types can use as a model…

I don’t know anymore, I keep second guessing everything lol.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

Are we surprised, what news from Belarus who acted likewise?

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

They have their share of useful idiots and there has been a power struggle going on at the heart of Swedish government since the worldwide coup burst out into the open 18 months ago.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

Or the Swedes didn’t fall for group think, populism and coercion because of the strength of character of Tegnell and Geisecke and, indeed, the Swedish population as a whole who didn’t wet the bed. Late in the day the UK population seems to have rediscovered their jaws.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

My work colleague lives there and he kept telling me 6 months in ‘they got it all wrong, it was a disaster’ – Maybe he reads the UK papers though as he cannot speak Swedish…

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

When I visited last autumn, there were plenty of Swedes who thought the covid response should have been more like ours.

Strength of character also of the PM and the government, who could have done what most other governments did.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Ideas do not stop at borders.

The same ideas present in Britain are present in Sweden but the Swedish constition did forbid lockdown.

Unfortunately, that has been changed.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

There was certainly a bombardment of Branch Covidian propaganda in some UK newspapers, saying Sweden’s strategy was in tatters.

Sweden, unlike nearly everyone else, had a strategy, lockdown is the exact opposite of a strategy.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

My understanding is that the Swedish constitution prohibited the imposition of the sort of lockdown madness the rest of us have endured.
Their politicians are complete globalist cucks, they would have lockdown if at all possible.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

I believe their constitution did prohibit that, but I think it did in many other places too and that didn’t stop them

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

As I keep writing in response to this: The German constitution prohibited that as well. Merkel chose to wipe her ass with it. End of story (so far).

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

And in the end, though the panickes inevitably retreat to nitpicking over details, it is the absence of any huge, unarguable signal in the deaths data for communities that ignored the panicker agenda – Sweden, Belarus, the Amish etc, that destroys their claims of an “emergency” that underpin all the atrocities of the panicker response.

They claim “but Sweden’s neighbours did better” – as though even if they were correct that would make an “emergency” somehow reappear, and that serves their purpose, which is merely to obfuscate and distract. The argument becomes one over details – exactly how many deaths, what about “dry tinder”, what about population density, etc ad nauseam. And when the masses simply switch off in boredom or confusion, the panickers continue with their poisonous agenda.

Because they already have the commanding heights of society in their hands. They do not need to prove their case, all they need to do is to keep the truth at a safe distance

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Had they not made the same early error as everywhere else in shoving untested hospital patients back into nursing homes their outcomes would have been even better.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

and Sweden is one of only a few free countries with respect for human rights

and their last couple of years weren’t exceptional

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#Additional_data,_charts_and_tables

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

As I already wrote in the past: Different things are bound to happen in different places by chance. Considering this, Sweden’s neighbours did better is simply an unsubstantiated claim. There’s no particular reason why viruses would care about political boundaries, hence, treating Norway and Sweden as externally separated but internally homogenous entities for the purpose of COVID makes no real sense: It’s based on the assumption that the actions of the respective governments must have made a difference but since that’s what’s supposed to proven, this is just a petitio principii logic error (circular reasoning, also called Begging the question in English).

Hence, this so-called argument ought to have been ignored as invalid from the start. The Covdians run on lies and deceit. Everything they come up with should this be treated as such until proven innocent, so to say. Don’t assume they must have been honest, try to determine how they were being dishonest (again).

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

And conveniently, this is the headline currently on the Daily Mail’s online front page:

Has Sweden’s lockdown gamble paid off? Nation has suffered fewer coronavirus deaths than most of Europe and has a lower infection rate – but it still fared worse than rest of Scandinavia 

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Beefbeefbeef
Beefbeefbeef
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

The problem is that there’s no consensus about what is meant by “fared worse” / “fared better” (than their neighbours).

The common – and I would say lazy – definition in the MSM is that the country with more deaths “fared worse” but if that country had no lockdown and the vast majority continued their life as normal then I would say they “fared better”.

We can screw everyone’s front doors down and have a bag of rice dropped off by the military every two weeks for a year – and no doubt “fare better” than neighbouring countries in terms of deaths – but what kind of pyrrhic victory is that?

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Here in the UK as vaccine takeup drops off and suddenly ‘cases’ are also dropping.

The biggest surge in ‘cases, in spring coincided with the big ramp up in vaccination.

And again over the summer when they widened it to the under 50’s.

Now they are running out of willing victims and cases start to drop?

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nickbowes
nickbowes
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

yet many people are “boasting” and “virtue signalling” about getting their booster vax here…

Hospitals will be very busy this winter and ambulance sirens will be every where – question is will they blame that on the “uncontaminated”.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

We are living in a world of lies. Our rulers lie about science, health, politics, economics and even our history – which everyone knows is written by the winners. They lie at election time and in between every election. They lie from morning to night and even no doubt lie in their sleep. They lie to their families and friends. They lie in the media and they lie to our faces on TV. They lie in their reports. They lie in their statistics, data and forcasting. They directly and indirectly pay NGO’s, think tanks, charitable foundations and academics to lie for them. Every policy they create is based on lies.They do not care how much harm their lies cause to the wider population, just as long as their lies serve the interests of the hidden cabal that meet in secret to plan out a future that benefits them and only them.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Part of the puzzle:

Yuri Bezmenov – Ideological Subversion. KGB Defector Interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEefbbApuaE

COVID 19 – The UK Scamdemic – Part 2
https://in-this-together.com/covid-19-the-uk-scamdemic-part-2/

Last edited 3 years ago by ComeTheRevolution
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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

They lie because they know they can get away with this. They know this because there is no “watchdog” press to challenge or expose their lies. Once the Fourth Estate was completely co-opted, they knew all false narratives could be protected. Shame on all the journalists and editors for playing along.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Not all of them and not all the time, just usually.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

With the corporate press, I think it is 99 percent of them, 99 precent of the time. You can quantify this. How many stories have the big news organizations run about vaccine injuries or adverse effects? Pick a newspaper. How many stories have they run on this subject? It will be zero. These organizations have 100 reporters and 100 of them did not write a story about this topic. That’s 100 percent groupthink. You might think two or three of these reporters would file one story, but no.

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JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
3 years ago

One of the most disgraceful deceits was focusing the argument on individual rights versus public health.

In getting 2 sides arguing with each other about fundamental rights and freedoms or killing granny, they managed to make it seem established that there was no argument about what was best for public health as such – that locking people in their own homes (studies from Madrid and New York showed that infections spread more among the incarcerated than among essential workers allowed out), masks (we all know the real studies), shutting down the economy, etc. was in fact the correct public health response, without any debate about the fact that from a public health point of view it actually made things worse.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

This will be why they prioritised Public Health over individuals health about a decade or do ago, I was puzzled at the time why the lead agencies for this were be the local authorities.
It seems much clearer now to be part of the plan that I would previously thought to be a ‘conspiracy theory’.

Being local councils they would need more time to get their Public Health arangements together, like plans to enforce lockdown measures at some future date.

I can’t be the only one who noticed how quickly and universally they shut the playgrounds down, started implementing long laid plans to impose pedestrian friendly one way schemes, bus and bicycle lanes which they did before restarting abandoned ordinary road works.
How the bin crews carried on regardless with only empty ambulances and police cars seeking Lockdown breakers for company.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

“Public” health was never considered in any risk-benefit analysis, which did NOT occur.

The health of those in the public would be far better (untold numbers of people would still be alive) if all of these mitigation policies had not been imposed.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Public Health Policy is used to deproiritse individual health in pursuit of the claimed objective which may, or may not, be the real objective.
The requirements of the administration overrule the welfare of the individual.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

Lets be absolutely clear about what is going on here – THIS IS BIOLOGICAL WARFARE DRESSED UP AS A HEALTH INITIATIVE.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Would we know if the deep state ever declared war on us?

I suggest not.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

Who would of thought that following well thought out and planned national procedures for coping with a pandemic would of worked!

I’ve been saying since the start of this hysterical fiasco there are international and national procedures for dealing with pandemics. Instead they have been thrown into the bin and knee jerk panic reactions have ruled.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

exfuckingsactly

if you follow a plan and it fucks up you can blame the plan and iterate a new one. dont just throw it in the bin when what you’ve planned for actually turns up

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

More like long laid plans held under lock and key marked ‘to be opened only when instructed under plan Operation Geronimo’.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Boris and his inner circle will have been offered millions (£) of reasons to ignore those old fashioned plans and to impose the ever so expensive lockdown policy that would tip £ hundreds of millions into all the right pockets.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

“This fact is shockingly underreported. “

I’m not shocked. The covidians are evil liars who are all up their necks in this. They will not go quietly.

“Sweden’s Covid Model”
Not really – pandemic planning orthodoxy, endorsed by WHO.

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Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Julian, I love you. You know who this is don’t you. Oh yes, it’s me.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

What’s shocking to me is that almost 100 percent of the “watchdog” press is complicit in the effort to NOT cover anything that challenges the narrative. In short, journalists are doing their part to protect this agenda. They intuitively know what they can and cannot report.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

Yes, none in the MSM mention the change in definition to vaccine, herd-immunity, pandemic and case!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Plenty of their readers do, they let those comments stand so far is as known.
We have no idea what the multiplier numbers of readers is who view the 2-3k comments often made.

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misslawbore
misslawbore
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I know this is pessimistic but the comments in MSM come across to me as an echo chamber

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  BillRiceJr

I think there are various motivations – some of it plain laziness and gullibility, some self preservation, some because bad news sells, but the worst of them are those for whom covid represents a golden opportunity to push their political agenda

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

As far as I can tell, all of the government statistics (and definitions) are manipulated. IN economics, the percentage cited for inflation or for unemployment are huge undercounts. Indeed, Department of Labor officials changed the way they calculate inflation and unemployment so these metrics would not be red flags. If it is a government figure don’t believe it.

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Rudolph Rigger
Rudolph Rigger
3 years ago

I produced the following pic a little while back. It’s a bit hyperbolic, but true in essence. Sweden, thank God for Sweden, stands as one of the nearest things to a control experiment we have. For me, this single chart says so very much – and brings the lies of the doom-mongers right out in the open. It couldn’t really be any more clear could it?

UK-Sweden.jpg
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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  Rudolph Rigger

lol. I did something similar early last year

uk vs sweden.png
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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Rudolph Rigger

Superb, all the insanity/fraud highlighted in one image.

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Will
Will
3 years ago

I will not forgive him for the previous 16 months, but Johnson has followed a Swedish policy since July 19th 2021, in spite of the hysteria from the usual covidian suspects, and he has been vindicated as the “freshers flu” season has come and gone without a recourse to compulsory mask wearing etc. Doubtless the faithful will claim vaccines made the difference, but it looks like endemic equilibrium is achieved when “infections” peak at about 1.2 million. If he had not locked down, the whole business would now be over and done with, as it is in Sweden. It is going to be very interesting to watch what happens in Germany; and NZ in February could be brutal if the vaccines precipitate Original Antigenic Sin….

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

Well, not really all that Swedish. Lots of threats of lockdowns and masks, enabling covidian bollocks thinking from organisations by emphasising it’s not over, vaccine mandates for workers, pissing away billions on useless testing.

Only God can forgive him, in the unlikely event he repents.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

He is too pissed to repent. As I said, nothing forgives the previous nonsense or the forced vaxing of care home workers and I will never vote for a government of which he is head, but he has stood firm since the 19th July and he did reject vax passports.

We will see if he holds his nerve after the hypocrites have flown home in their private jets; I think he will be keen to avoid a battle with his backbenchers who were bullied and blackmailed to support Paterson only for Johnson to sober up, eventually, and realise what a mistake he had made, leaving Tory MPs furious. The rapist’s father extending restrictions and Krankie’s restrictions proving unenforceable is good for Johnson politically.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

“We will see if he holds his nerve” Well, I would not say he’s doing that now, but then nothing short of a broadly keep “calm and carry on” approach would have been acceptable to me. But yes, he has been better than some other leaders in some regards. Or at least the outcome has been better, though equally he might just be a smarter politician than those who may well be heading for overreach which is the only way we will win this war in the short term.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

I know some of you find stats n graphs sexy, so this is for you.

Goodbye ONS integrity Thinking Slow

We explore the bizarre analysis from the ONS showing a large number of unvaccinated deaths from 2 Jan 2021, when vaccines were largely unavailable. We also ask a wider question about how far ONS will go in order to support a political narrative and come to a worrying conclusion.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Such a shame, they were so reliable during Lockdown 1.
The go to place for those who knew how to read the information and translate it to those of us who were interested.
There was one, since retired, site that the then solo Toby Young would link to from time to time that presented excellent simple to comprehend graphs that outlined each weekly reality.

Last edited 3 years ago by karenovirus
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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I can’t pretend to understand much of that especially since I have a bit of brain fog today, but his conclusions are clear (he has since posted a 2 minute summary).

Back in the day (see above) the ONS did not publish explanatory graphics still less post tweets. They confined themselves to publishing the raw data leaving it to others for interpretation.
As with the Met Officr who do not predict climate change, that’s done by others later.

I can only presume that the ONS has been stuffed with compliant statistics people to present in this way from within a previously trusted source. My only quibble with the presentation is that were reports of the ONS being corrupted from some months ago.

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago

It’s ok to be Swedish!

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

How dare you!

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

I think the Tories panicked over Paterson and his relatively junior role in the covid related rip off.
If an ex Minister can be paid £100 000 a year and in return Randox gets £500 million to supply covid services just imagine what Boris will be getting for his part?
Exactly who paid for Boris’ £15 000 holiday just before the pandemic was declared and what did Boris give in return?
Why has Boris had numerous off the record meetings with Bill Gates a man reported to have made over £7bn in profits from his interests in covid vaccines, PCR and lateral flow testing equipment (he probably has interests in track and trace as well)?

Boris pushed the pandemic scare like no tomorrow, he did this because it was in his personal interest to do so, there can be no other reason.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

The whole system is irreparably corrupt!

The only difference between the west & developing countries in places like eg. Africa is western democracies are better at covering up their corruption, they’ve been at it longer.

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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I agree.
We have a system of total control where the ruling powers have their controlled media pumping out that the Tories and Labour are the only options.
Sadly the vast majority of people are too thick to realise that selecting between Labour and the Tories is like selecting between a kick in the nuts or a punch in the nuts.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

I’d say the same people choose who can run as candidates (by spying on and evicting non-narrative followers)..

2 brands one uniparty, zero choice.

Last edited 3 years ago by TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago

There’s non so blind as those who don’t want to see or as deaf as those who don’t want to hear.

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JYC
JYC
3 years ago

Read it and weep. Basic components of human existence – seeing family, children’s education, freedom to travel in your own country, etc – all counted as worthless by just about every other western “democracy”. And still our non-thinking fellow countrymen do not wake up.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  JYC

They declared war on ‘Family’ attacking it from all directions for years, now they’re literally killing the children!

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Disruption of family, Church and education were always the aims of the Frankfurt school.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

Introducing a new (new to me) video platform: superu.net.

Dr. Fleming Interview – Vaccinated Driven Variants, Hiding Natural Immunity & Creating Bioweapons

Dr. Richard Fleming, MD, PhD, here to discuss the COVID-19 deception, focusing especially on what is driving the variants,the inherent dangers of these injections, and the origin of SARS-CoV-2 regarding gain-of-function research and bioweapons.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
3 years ago

Sweden might as well be on another planet. It’s approach to the ‘pandemic’ is already being airbrushed out and future generations will never learn about it.

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

Florian Dagoury, currently the world’s best static freediving diver, was diagnosed with myocarditis and trivial mitral regurgitation after his second dose of Pfizer’s vaccine.

“After my 2nd dose, I noticed that my heart rate was way higher than normal and my breath hold capacities went down significantly. During sleep, I’m at 65-70bpm instead of 37-45bpm. During the day I’m now always over 100bpm instead of 65bpm, even when I sit down and relax. Once I even reach 177bpm while having dinner with friends !!!! 10 days after my 2nd jab, I went to see a cardiologist and he told me it’s a common side effect of the Pfizer vaccine, nothing to worry about, just rest it will pass. 40days after 2nd jab, I had no progress so I went to see another cardiologist and got diagnosed with Myocarditis and Trivial Mitral regurgitation! Which is basically an inflammation of the heart muscles caused by the immune system and some tiny leaks of blood from the valves that no longer close properly. I’m now struggling to reach 8min breath hold, 150m dyn and I even have a strong urge to breathe doing 40m dives. 30% decrease on my diving performance roughly.
My first thought and recommendation to Freedivers around the world are to choose a vaccine that is done the old fashion way like Sputnik, Sinovac, Sinopharm, etc…instead of those new mRNA vaccines.”

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Very similar story to Kyle, US mountain biker. Supremely fit athlete -> vaccination -> myocarditis.

“But it’s rare and the vaccines are safe and effective”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7inaTiDKaU

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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Do YouTube delete these when they find them ?

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

Thanks. Please keep these testimonials coming. The only place a lot of people can see these stories is links provided in Reader Comment sections. They certainly aren’t published by corporate media companies.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8546144/

Comprehensive investigations revealed consistent pathophysiological alterations after vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines
Large-scale COVID-19 vaccinations are currently underway in many countries in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we report, besides generation of neutralizing antibodies, consistent alterations in hemoglobin A1c, serum sodium and potassium levels, coagulation profiles, and renal functions in healthy volunteers after vaccination with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Similar changes had also been reported in COVID-19 patients, suggesting that vaccination mimicked an infection. Single-cell mRNA sequencing (scRNA-seq) of peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) before and 28 days after the first inoculation also revealed consistent alterations in gene expression of many different immune cell types. Reduction of CD8+ T cells and increase in classic monocyte contents were exemplary. Moreover, scRNA-seq revealed increased NF-κB signaling and reduced type I interferon responses, which were confirmed by biological assays and also had been reported to occur after SARS-CoV-2 infection with aggravating symptoms. Altogether, our study recommends additional caution when vaccinating people with pre-existing clinical conditions, including diabetes, electrolyte imbalances, renal dysfunction, and coagulation disorders.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

It is also revealing to see who died “from” COVID in Sweden. Almost all deaths occurred among the very elderly. I believe the average age of a “Covid victim” is 83, which is above the normal life expectancy in almost every country in the world.

Deaths among those in the working-age population have been statistically almost non-existent, especially among those 40 or younger.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

‘NHS boss Amanda Pritchard is accused of ‘abusing’ Covid statistics’

https://mol.im/a/10177849

Obviously more of a turnip than a swede!

Last edited 3 years ago by isobar
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MrTea
MrTea
3 years ago

I’d love to know how much Boris, Hancock and the associated Tory cronies have/will personally financially benefit from imposing lockdown and tipping colossal amounts of cash into their chums pockets.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

And how much they will trouser from their next jobs courtesy of the WEF and WHO

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Ixnay on the edensway!

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago

People make a big thing about the population density of Sweden being low. It is in fact about 58 to the square mile.
The population density of Scotland is not a lot different at 67 per suare mile.
So let us compare and contrast on that basis and I think we will see just how much worse Scotland fared.

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

Sweden followed the road less travelled …. and the world is still pissed at them for this.

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

They test for the flu since they’ve never isolated Covid-19. Which makes me wonder how they can tell there is a delta variant. They never isolated the virus but they use a test to show the damage of a solution does on monkey kidney cells then show the cellular debris as proof of the virus. So, they can use this method to claim an UNENDING! amount of variants. A lot of cancers and “viruses” are probably just different forms of parasites. Since the tests can’t differentiate between cold and flu and covid then doesn’t that mean ivermectin cures both the cold and the flu? Welcome to “they’ve been lying to us our entire lives about everything”. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

‘How Sweden swerved Covid disaster WITHOUT lockdown’

https://mol.im/a/10178701

But usual snide comments about having fared less well than its neighbours!

Last edited 3 years ago by isobar
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FrankiiB
FrankiiB
3 years ago

Some articles compare Sweden unfavourably to “other Scandinavian countries”, but fail to note that actually other Scandinavian countries were mostly fairly open too, if not quite so much as Sweden.

There is one glaring exception: the area of Scotland, whose government likes to refer to it as a Scandinavian country. Scotland had a massively higher Covid mortality rate than all other areas of Northern European and by far the most restrictions too.

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CiacBiab
CiacBiab
3 years ago

If only Sweden wasn’t so dark and cold in the winter it would be tempting to try to move there for some common sense. But they also do have a few problems with some of those who have already migrated there I understand.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
3 years ago

There are still people out there who will instantly point to Sweden’s neighbours to show how she failed.

The (Pandemic) Logic being that if Sweden had done more they would have had a better outcome as long as we ignore all the places that did do a lot more and ended up with a worse outcome, which was most other countries.

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Beefbeefbeef
Beefbeefbeef
3 years ago

Time for a discussion about what the expression “fared worse than its neighbours” actually means.

If everything stays open and some more people die then I consider that to be “faring better” than closing everything and denying basic freedoms to everyone.

The problem is that cases / deaths can be counted (albeit open to massaging of figures) whereas happiness and freedom cannot be counted.

Last edited 3 years ago by Beefbeefbeef
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