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Children’s Doctor Says He Needs to See More Data Before He Would Vaccinate His Own Children

by Luke Perry
5 November 2021 10:59 AM

Professor Nigel Curtis, from the Murdoch Children’s Association, has warned that those under the age of 11 must not be given a Covid vaccine until more data becomes available. Professor Curtis also remarked that, as the virus poses little to no risk to young children, the safety threshold for the vaccine has to be much higher than it is for older age groups. The Mail Australia has more.

On Tuesday the U.S. approved the Pfizer vaccine for children aged five to 11 years-old after a study of 3,100 kids detected no serious side effects and found it was 90.7% effective in preventing Covid infection.

Pfizer has started an application process to get its vaccine authorised for children in Australia, but Professor Nigel Curtis from the Murdoch Children’s Association believes bigger trials are needed first.

Professor Curtis said children are much less likely to suffer severe disease than adults so the safety threshold for the vaccines should be set much higher.

“I’m a strong proponent of vaccine in general but when we decide on the use of any vaccine we always have to weigh up potential benefits and potential risks”, he told ABC radio host Virginia Trioli on Friday morning.

“That balance is much more difficult than it is in older age groups and the main reason is that in this age group, even with the Delta variant, Covid remains a very mild or even asymptomatic disease in the vast majority of children”.

Australian data from the first seven months of 2021 showed 2.5% of children under nine who caught Covid needed hospital treatment, compared with 7.7% of adults in their 20s and 19.2% of adults in their 50s.

Professor Curtis said vaccinating under 12s was “still an open scientific question” and “we need more data on the relative benefits and potential harms”.

“The bar for using a vaccine for a disease which is extremely mild and which very few children come to any harm is much higher”, he said. 

The children’s doctor said U.S. trials had involved “a very small number of children when it comes to assessing rare side effects” and “you need much larger numbers before you can be certain”.

Phase three of Pfizer’s vaccine trial for adults in November 2020 enrolled 43,661 participants, while AstraZeneca’s safety data was based on 20,000 adults enrolled across four clinical trials.

“Children are not little adults and they have a very different immune system. They have a very strong immune system when it comes to Covid and they respond very differently to adults”, Professor Curtis said.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: AustraliaVaccinating ChildrenVaccines

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago

It’s a start maybe, but Professor Nigel Curtis is nearly a year behind the curve.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

As Prof Mesmet the “mass formation” psychology guy said, when you have episodes of group hypnosis like this there are around 20% who don’t fall for it, 40% who go deeply under and are basically unreachable, and then there are 40% in the middle who go along with things for a quiet life but are still open to persuasion.

Prof Curtis seems to be in the middle 40% and it’s encouraging he has spoken out but we need lots more people in that category to wake up to what is happening.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

“Professor Nigel Curtis, from the Murdoch Children’s Association, has warned that those under the age of 11 must not be given a Covid vaccine until more data becomes available. Professor Curtis also remarked that, as the virus poses little to no risk to young children, the safety threshold for the vaccine has to be much higher than it is for older age groups.”

Why do they need to be vaccinated AT ALL if the virus poses little to no risk?
The safety profile of the vaccine is irrelevant. Injecting anyone with anything constitutes a finite risk. Why take the risk when there is no possible reward in return?

It’s almost as if universal vaccination isn’t being done on medical or health grounds alone.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I wonder how many people are aware that since 2013 every baby born in the UK is vaccinated against Rotavirus. The case fatality rate of rotavirus is 0.001%

Perhaps the silver lining of this corona nightmare is that more people are asking questions about vaccines in general. For example, why has the number of vaccines on the NHS recommended vaccine schedule almost doubled since 2006 (6 additional diseases).

The risk-reward question regarding vaccines in general has been completely ignored.

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The regime will need to mandate all vaccines by force after this, as no-one will ever willingly trust or comply with the vaccine schedule again.

This alone makes me realise that we are not going back to “normal”

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I was not aware, not having had a baby since 2009. I found out the other day we are now vaccinating against hepatitis B at birth too. Why?!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Quite. Very cleverly the baseline has moved from ‘children are not at risk so don’t need to be injected’ to ‘well Pfizer says it’s safe so we will inject the children.’

It has now become a given that children must be poisoned, the only issue is how many parents will refuse.

As sure as eggs are eggs those parents who say no will be lumped with the rest of the so-called ‘anti-vaxers’ and will be blamed as the ADE cases multiply.

It’s Genocide people.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

The balance in normal healthy people is 6 times 11 years 66 years old though (using their own figures las time i looked)

THERE’S ZERO benefit (and mass harm) to spam-jabbing those aged younger.

Even if the jabs worked to prevent harms from infection you’d want to limit viral evolution by using them only to those at risk of harm!

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Henry2
Henry2
3 years ago

Healthy scientist in his mid 30s, equivalent of 3 PhDs in neuropharmacology, multiple publications in PNAS, Nature, Mol. Pharmacology needs more data before taking one of these products. Enough about me, but if I can’t give ‘informed consent’ I doubt any one else of similar age or younger can (specific co-morbidities aside).

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

What more does he need to see?

  1. They’re not vaccines!
  2. They’re more likely to kill your kid than save it!

Hello?

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

A statement of the bleedin’ obvious.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

something which has become a revolutionary act over the last 20 months.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

The leftist’s god has shown his true colours.
Noam Chomsky Goes Off The Deep End – Proving That All Socialism Leads To Tyranny

Chomsky compared people who don’t comply with the vaccines to people who don’t comply with traffic lights, suggesting we pose an imminent danger to others and that we should be removed. When asked how unvaxxed people forced out of the economy could be fed (how would they survive), he asserted “that is their problem.”

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Few once admirable people have suffered more Trump derangement than Chomsky.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Once admirable?

WHEN? IIRR He’s been a computer fraud from the start.

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago

Every time I read this stuff, I am truly amazed by the skills of the Pfizer Time Travellers and their Medical and Political Fellow-Travellers, in being able to project themselves weeks, months, years and even decades into the Future, to know the full effects of their Potion on people, both old and young.

If the rotten BBC had any gumption, they’d knock up a quick time-travelling replacement for Dr. Who (What?) using this theme. It likely wouldn’t have a happy ending, though.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

This part is a bit suspicious:

Australian data from the first seven months of 2021 showed 2.5% of children under nine who caught Covid needed hospital treatment, compared with 7.7% of adults in their 20s and 19.2% of adults in their 50s.

The age ranges don’t quite match, but recent UKHSA data suggests it to be about 0.1% (<18), 1% (20’s) and 5% (50’s) in the unvaccinated — and that includes the vulnerable within each age group (immunocompromised, obese, etc).

This is the problem we have — the authorities are very keen to use any data that shows covid to be a terrible disease that warrants their extreme response, and ignore anything that suggests that it is badish in the old and vulnerable, but considerably less so in the young and healthy.

Last edited 3 years ago by amanuensis
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iane
iane
3 years ago

Please, Mr Perry, don’t EVER pretend that anything in the Daily Fail is ‘worth reading in full’!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

I only ever read the headline, scroll straight down to comment section whilst passing a disapproving glance at the empowered bikini clad celebs whoring themselves for attention. Least page 3 was honest, tits out for cash so men could look.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

If its on a yacht it’s probably for money, not attention.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Liz hurley seems to live on the beach in a bikini, money or attention, not sure?

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

Shame he hasn’t got teenagers or young adults, perhaps he might have spoken up earlier.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

See more data? What for? What earthly reason is there to consider a “vaccination” for someone 11 or under who is not in danger from covid, especially when that “vaccine” seems to make you more, not less, likely to catch and pass on an infection? Are there not actual sick people to treat? How could vaxxing 11 year olds for covid ever be a priority worth pursuing?

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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

How many children in Australia have died FROM COVID?

Compare this to the number of children in Australia who die from the flu or pneumonia in a typical flu season.

Also, why can’t these statistics be reported in articles on children vaccination? Have editors told their reporters NOT to include this factual information in any articles they submit? Or do the reporters just know that they should not do this?

Last edited 3 years ago by BillRiceJr
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BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
3 years ago

I don’t understand why more doctors, scientists and journalists are so unwilling to QUANTIFY the health risks to children from COVID.

I tried to do just this in a story that actually got published (at an “alternative media” site). But my extrapolations were based on a UK study described as the “most comprehensive of its kind.”.

The study found that only 25 children (aged 0 to 17) died FROM Covid in the first year of the pandemic. However, I tried to narrow this risk to just “healthy” children, those without severe pre-existing or “life-altering” medical conditions. From this effort, I concluded the odds a “healthy” child would die from COVID were about 1 in 2 million (0.0001 percent).

I’ve also tried to perform the same type of analysis regarding the mortality risk to healthy athletes. Just about all athletes are now being forced (or coerced) into getting vaccinated when reports of athletes who died from COVID are either zero or maybe one or two (out of millions of athletes who participated in organized sports in the last 20 months).

Clearly, the risks of vaccination-caused side effects (such as myocarditis) are many-folds higher than the risks of death from this disease.

Anyway, when I read reports acknowledging that the risks to children or young adults are “very small,” this characterization is no where close to being descriptive or accurate. The risks are actually microscopic or infinitesimal, almost non-existent.

https://uncoverdc.com/2021/07/30/for-majority-of-uk-children-covid-mortality-is-0-000/

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

Powerful:

What happens when doctors ‘just follow orders’

https://youtu.be/qabuM2FKxtk

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

⁣Hospitals in USA and in first world countries are refusing life-saving Ivermectin treatment even with court orders. Big Pharma doing everything they can to jab us no matter what, while alternative COVID cures EXIST! There happens to be heavy censorship who are looking for these treatments. The Research Is Clear: Ivermectin Is a Safe, Effective Treatment for COVID. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://health.p0l.org/

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Less government
Less government
3 years ago

I would love to know if employees of the Big Pharma vaccine suppliers are vaccinating their children, or Doctors and nurses, or Members of Parliament, or their offspring’s children. Sooner or later some of these people will realise that they have killed one of their family…..

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