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by Michael Curzon
2 September 2021 12:13 AM

  • “Vaccine passports will make hesitant people ‘even more reluctant to get jabbed’” – New data comes as Number 10 vows to press on with its plan to make vaccination a condition of entry for nightclubs, reports the Guardian.
  • “Passengers face huge queues during fourth day of chaos at Heathrow” – The Home Office has continued with its unapologetic stance, with a spokesman saying travellers will “need to accept” increased wait times due to high summer demand and the need to check Covid documents, reports MailOnline.
  • “Britons with severely weak immune systems to be offered third Covid jab” – Health officials say the shots are not boosters but part of the vaccination schedule for half a million patients, reports the Guardian.
  • “WHO designates ‘Mu’ a new variant of interest” – The U.N. agency says there are signs the variant, first detected in Colombia in January, is more resistant to vaccines, reports the Telegraph.
  • “Covid’s most toxic scar could be a generational war across Europe” – With the young increasingly angry at having sacrificed their future, lockdown restrictions have left a deeply divided continent on the edge of a new age of conflict, writes Bruno Waterfield in the Times.
  • “Boris wanted to be the next Churchill. He looks more like the heir to Merkel” – “Britain is crying out for sensible, conservative and free-market reforms. Reread some of your old columns, dust out [off] your biography of Churchill, and above all stop trying to imitate Angela Merkel,” Allister Heath tells Boris Johnson in the Telegraph.
  • “Revealed, the vaccine safety alert that drugs watchdog is ignoring” – “With vaccine-associated deaths passing 1,600 in Britain, the MHRA should suspend the vaccination programme, like it did after 47 deaths caused by the Pandemrix swine flu jab,” writes Sally Beck in TCW Defending Freedom.
  • “If we are serious about ‘living with Covid’, we must prepare for the worst” – This autumn, we must rebuild the Nightingale hospitals – and set up a Medical Reserve along the lines of the Territorial Army, writes Richard Tice in the Telegraph.
  • “MPs may soon be asked to extend Covid emergency powers for another six months” – “Safeguards in the new Covid restrictions were much weaker. The Government had evaded the precautions of the CCA that would have limited the power of the Prime Minister and other members of the cabinet,” writes Jamie Walden in Bounrbrook Magazine.
  • “Increasing Evidence that Lockdowns and Social Distancing are Harming Kids” – “It is very possible that in the decades to come the cost of treating obesity-related health issues, both in human health and monetary terms, will far outweigh the supposed benefits derived from the Covid mitigation methods that led to the weight gain in the first place,” writes Zachary Yost in AIER.
  • “Zero-Covid, a once wildly popular ideology, quietly faces extinction” – “The zero-Covid ideology is now so rare and so unpopular that you have to travel to remote parts of Oceania or within the confines of an elite American liberal arts university in order to find it,” writes Jordan Schachtel in a recent Substack update.
  • “Vaccine Shakeup at FDA as Key Leadership Resigns, Leaving A Potential Void Impacting U.S. Vaccination Program” – The senior Agency executives responsible for reviewing the recent Pfizer Covid vaccine submission are on their way out, reports Trial Site.
  • “Canada’s slide towards corona authoritarianism” – Justin Trudeau used to say vaccine passports were divisive and damaging. Now he’s embraced them, writes Andrew Sansone in Spiked.
  • “‘Treat the virus like a criminal’: Police Commissioner defends Covid enforcement” – NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller says the decision to escalate enforcement of Covid restrictions was not directly based on health advice but has suggested community transmissions of the Delta variant would be 10 times the current level if not for police intervention, reports the Sydney Morning Herald.
  • “Concern grows for global coffee supply amid Vietnam lockdown” – Traders are struggling to get beans to ports for export after Covid curbs were imposed on Ho Chi Minh City, reports the Guardian.
  • “Businesses in Lithuania can start operation with national Covid certificates” – Businesses in Lithuania will be able to bar unvaccinated people from next week. Those that choose not to will have to enforce all other restrictions, reports Delfi.
  • “Labour has gone suspiciously quiet on the issue of illegal immigration” – Not for the first time, Starmer is ignoring the opportunity to make common cause with the majority of voters for fear of upsetting his party, writes Tom Harris in the Telegraph.
  • “Ofcom’s vindication of me is a resounding victory for freedom” – “Make no mistake, this is a watershed moment in the battle for free speech,” writes Piers Morgan in MailOnline.
  • “A new free speech body is standing up to the woke bullies” – “While people scream for the tearing down of statues to people like Churchill, they show no interest in standing up to China, which is ruthlessly destroying the culture, language, and sense of identity of the Uighur Muslims,” writes Ruth Dudley Edwards while discussing the Free Speech Union and History Reclaimed.
  • “Goldsmiths considers removing ‘troubling’ Lord Nelson and Sir Francis Drake statues” – The university has opened up a consultation on whether to remove monuments of maritime heroes over alleged slave trade links, reports the Telegraph.
  • “Trans activism has mummy issues” – “Nowhere is the battle over the nature (or, perhaps, the possibility) of a feminist legacy more evident than in contemporary arguments around trans identity,” writes Mary Harrington in UnHerd.
  • “Why does the NHS need diversity managers?” – Our health service is already one of the most ethnically diverse institutions in Britain, writes Fraser Myers in Spiked.
  • “Ofcom has cleared Good Morning Britain over Piers Morgan’s comments about Meghan Markle” – Toby says on talkRADIO: “The idea that anyone who criticises Meghan must be racist and that any criticism of her is racist is just ridiculous.”

Ofcom has cleared Good Morning Britain over Piers Morgan's comments about Meghan Markle.

Free Speech Union's Toby Young: "The idea that anyone who criticises Meghan must be racist and that any criticism of her is racist is just ridiculous."@Iromg | @toadmeister | @piersmorgan pic.twitter.com/UWkXNjpbCh

— TalkTV (@TalkTV) September 1, 2021
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baboon
baboon
4 years ago

Will, thank you. You are about two months behind your commentators on your own website but you are catching up.

I would say at current velocity you’ll be calling these “experimental death shots” like me in a couple of months.

If this were ANY other vaccine in history, these things would have been banned months ago.

That they continue to be deployed is an absolute disgrace and I firmly believe that those pushing them are ultimately going to be charged with crimes against humanity and hung by the neck until dead.

This has to stop. The time for playing nice is over. If they start sticking this shit in children then it’s time to take matters into our own hands. We’re on the right side of history.

We are witnessing the banality of evil. Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. My grandfathers weren’t into that, they put holes in Nazis’ heads. I’m prepared to do the same.

Sic semper tyrannis.

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mojo
mojo
4 years ago
Reply to  baboon

They need to be charged, but in the present climate where the far left globalists have been in charge for nearly 40yrs, I suspect there will be no accountability. If we are lucky the millions who have not fallen for the scam will be enough to stop this crime. We will then be able to turn the institutions around.

If we are not successful the unforeseen consequences will be played out over time. We will see determined and silent slaughter like never before. We will see a world in turmoil and maybe even the end of the human race. Never forget that every single time in history that evil men have tried to control their fellow citizens, the consequences have led to anarchy, poverty and famine. The shame that history repeats itself, is because good men and women never learn that socialism in all its guises never works. Nothing is for free. The future has to be worked for. Our values have to be upheld within the family and community. Is there really any need for central government ?????

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  mojo

“the far left globalists have been in charge for nearly 40yrs”

Are you really that thick and isolated from reality?

Don’t tell me – Mr Toad is a ‘marxist’!

You can match the Covmaniacs for bug-eyed fantasy.

I guess 77th Brigade must be getting desperate.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It’s the left-wing March through the institutions. As much as you don’t like it, that’s what they are. They may not be classic Marxists, or communists, they are absolutely not conservatives or on the political right.
The old left-right labels are inadequate for current politics. It’s globalists/oligarchs versus the (small n) nationalists and liberals.
There’s the Socialist Democrats, as they call themselves in America who are much more left-wing than the Democrats of even 20 years ago, those like Ash Sarkar who proudly call themselves Communists, Susan Michie who is a member of the UK Communist party.
They are not conservatives (small c). Neither is Johnson, though I’m unclear what his true political beliefs are. They conserve nothing, and allow the social justice warriors free reign to destroy our history, monuments, education, culture, etc.
It’s the power-hungry versus those who want to be left alone to live their lives. The ultra-rich who have ambitions to control the world. The left-wing social justice warriors, the followers of the Frankfurt school, admirers of communist USSR and China, their useful idiots, versus the rest of us.

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baboon
baboon
4 years ago

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?…

The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…

We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

As I told my brother recently, this is the most serious thing ANY of us have experienced in our lifetimes.

Get with the program. Evil is here and it is amongst us.

Think it “can’t happen here?”. It’s happening. Right now.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
4 years ago
Reply to  baboon

That is such a powerful quote. At each stage we convince ourselves not to act, it’s only for a few weeks; it’s only a cloth mask; it’s only sensible to keep a distance; it’s only a vaccine card, ….

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  baboon

I am part way through volume two – it is terrifying how the same regime of control, coercion, lies, and top down criminality amongst many other beyond dubious behaviours is presenting itself now; Solzhenitsyn would recognise 2020 as a continuation of Gulag terror for sure. Dense books, from a brilliant mind.How he retained his sanity and equilibrium is beyond me.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  baboon

I read some of Solzhenitsyn while at school. I don’t remember anything about what I read, but an image remained of trying to survive in the extreme circumstances of the gulags, similar I imagine to the Nazi concentration camps.
I’ve held a dread feeling that it would happen to me ever since.
My father was Jewish. He was born here in the UK, but his family left Eastern Europe some time previously. I have no idea which country they came from. Had they not left before Nazi Germany arose, I’m sure his family would not have survived, and I would not exist.

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  baboon

Truly a powerful quote. I’ve copied and pasted to my files for future use.

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JohnMcCarthy
JohnMcCarthy
3 years ago
Reply to  baboon

Excellent and inspiring quote. Thank you.

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baboon
baboon
4 years ago

“He gazed up at the enormous face. A year and a half it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the blonde dishevelled hairdo. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two ritalin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Pharma.”

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
4 years ago

Determining the effectiveness of a vaccine for a disease which has such a tiny death rate, and produces so many infections with only mild or non-extant symptoms is extremely challenging from a statistical point of view. Massive studies would be required, and these have not been done.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

The effectiveness of a vaccine is how it reduces your chances of getting an infection. It is a separate thing to measure how much it reduces your chances of dying – so the death rate is irrelevant. The RCTs in the phase 3 trials were very large with tens of thousands of participants.

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SallyM
SallyM
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

That’s ridiculous. Severe illness, hospitalisation and death are the only end-points people really care about. It is ludicrous to describe them as irrelevant.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

For some reason – censorship perhaps???- this site is no longer allowing me to downtick your comment – so I am having to do it manually. I am downticking your comment

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JohnMcCarthy
JohnMcCarthy
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

From the actual vaccine trial results… Checkout the reduction in absolute risk as opposed to the publicised relative risk reduction and the numbers needed to treat/vaccinate. R in AR varies between 0.7% and 1.4% depending on the vaccine, albeit this will change according to the background incidence of the disease. Search BMJ for info. For example:

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2020/11/26/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-lets-be-cautious-and-first-see-the-full-data/

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Massive honest ones.
None of those done sofar.
The trials were already manipulated on every front.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Determining the effectiveness of a vaccine for a disease which has such a tiny death rate, and produces so many infections with only mild or non-extant symptoms I would argue would be unnecessary under normal circumstances.

It’s probably now unarguable that the virus came from the virology lab, and was “enhanced” or weaponised. Maybe the drive and panic is because the PTB know that and are concerned about long-term side effects

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SallyM
SallyM
4 years ago

The first thing to note is the huge difference in the positivity rate between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups. It is 24% in the vaccinated and 65% in the unvaccinated. This means the two groups, for whatever reason – and the authors don’t discuss this or draw attention to it – must have been subject to completely different testing regimes.

I don’t understand why Will Jones draws this conclusion.

I do find it bizarre, however, that either group had such high rates of positivity.

The effect of the statistical adjustments to the odds ratios also stretches credibility beyond breaking point.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

They might have been even quicker than the CDC and manipulated the results by using a low CT of 28 for the vaxxed only….
These studies are like calculating the returns for an account at Madoff or the profits of Wirecard: you can come up with anything and be very sophisticated in your process, but at the core, the result is always negative in reality, as you are dealing with fraud.

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SallyM
SallyM
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Another possibility is that they might have been testing the unvaccinated more/more frequently than the vaccinated. This happened with a Pfizer study in Israel, discussed by Norman Fenton.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago

What do the snake oil goons mean by ‘effective’?
It stops you getting covvie?
It doesn’t stop you getting covvie but you don’t end up in hospital?
You do end up in hospital but you don’t die?
You do get covvie, and you may end up in hospital and die, but you don’t pass it on?

Or: it has no effect whatever on covvie but it entitles you to cry hatred against those who refuse snake oil?

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Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
4 years ago

Occams Razor still applies. The best explanation for the post vaccine spike is picking up the virus from aerosols in the centralised vaccination centre everybody trooped to, or those doing the vaccinating.

A population moving from being isolated to meeting will cause an increase in infection – as we see every year when kids go back to school after summer.

We could do with data about whether other aerosolised infections spiked at the same time.

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TheFascistCoronaFraud
TheFascistCoronaFraud
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Stop lying.

This person applied to 34 councils around the UK.
Under the Freedom of Information Act he requested the burial & cremation figures from 2015 to 2020.
This link contains the official response from each council.
Each letter clearly states that the death rate has remained the same every year, even during the so called ‘spike’ of the pandemic.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/nick_milner

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WilliamC
WilliamC
3 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

Thank you for this link, TFCF. It’s good to have the data. I’ve seen a lot of comments over the past fourteen months about how funeral directors, crematoria staff, gravediggers etc have been no busier than usual. I live near a large cemetery and I don’t think it has been any busier (of course I had never thought about making year-by-year comparisons before 2020). I’m sure the fact-checkers have got a good explanation, however – the reports probably don’t take into account burials at sea or spontaneous atomisation within 28 days of a positive PCR test.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

Useful.

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ebygum
ebygum
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Magic WuFlu again then? Older people jabbed, die, younger people in the same centres, not jabbed, don’t die? In these circumstances Occamms Razor suggests have the jab, get infected die.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

There is another explanation. Those most likely to get Covid were on the whole vaccinated first – so if they had not been vaccinated we would expect a higher rate than the group that were not vaccinated. The vaccines take at least two weeks to have an effect. So during that two week period we would expect slightly more cases amongst the vaccinated group – which is what we see. It comes across as a spike because anyone with symptoms in the week (two weeks?) prior to the vaccination is asked to defer. So the rate immediately before vaccination is suppressed. Then it bounces to slightly above normal. Then the vaccine kicks in and it drops

I am not claiming this is definitely the explanation. I am just saying that it is another possibility.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

NHS Test & Trace App updated to a Chinese Style Social Credit System
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCiC1oqbQMA

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ian j
ian j
4 years ago

It seems that, in america, the figures are being fabricated to suit the situation by manipulating the flawed PCR tests:

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among

No doubt the same is going on here to provide whatever is wanted to prolong this farce,

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prod_squadron
prod_squadron
3 years ago
Reply to  ian j

Wow. I double checked the CDC website and yes “breakthrough” covid cases are going to be redefined for vaccinated people as only if it’s hospitalisation or death. They’ve removed the bit from their website about reducing the cycle threshold to <28 but you can tell it was there by searching the exact wording and being brought to the relevant CDC page where it once was.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

“Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody’s around – nobody big, I mean – except me. And I’m standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff – I mean if they’re running and they don’t look where they’re going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That’s all I do all day. I’d just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it’s crazy, but that’s the only thing I’d really like to be.”
― J. D. Salinger, The Catcher in the Rye

We failed. The field is empty, the kids are at the foot of the cliff

The kids are never coming back

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The vaccine industry is like a Behemoth, a huge Juggernaut, I feel like an irrelevant sniper with a spud gun taking pot shots at a Sherman tank. My biggest worry is that as this programme moves to the younger people it will have an effect on fertility and vitality. But what can be done about it? or are we doomed to let this horror play itself out? is anybody listening?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Some study has been trumpeted on BBC in order likely to persuade pregnant women to have the jab, saying that covid will cause an increase in the number of still born babies. The greatest fear of any pregnant woman would be that here baby would be still born, ergo she will likely roll up her sleeve to have the jab. Would it be harmful either to her or to her unborn baby to instead take a good level of vitamin D3??

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

They looked where they were going. They jumped.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

If the jabs result in mass deaths, the CRT guys will have accomplished their mission. African kids will then take their place in those rye fields in Europe and the USA and Palestinian ones in those in Israel.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

You’re backing the eugenics case? The more civilised replacing raddled old stock?

Never thought of that 🙂

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TheFascistCoronaFraud
TheFascistCoronaFraud
4 years ago

Ultimate proof that Covid is a fraud. It is now a proven fact that they are lying.

Burial and cremation figures from numerous UK councils from 2015 to 2020.

Freedom Of Information strikes again. Blair did one good thing. Thanks Tony 😉

There was no spike in deaths in 2020. They are lying. What are we going to do about this? We cannot let this proceed when it is so clearly based on fraud. Arrest these people NOW.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/nick_milner

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TheFascistCoronaFraud
TheFascistCoronaFraud
4 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

Any spike in deaths that occurs from now is due to the genocidal vaccine rollout only.

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straightalkingyorkshireman
straightalkingyorkshireman
4 years ago
Reply to  TheFascistCoronaFraud

You’re right, but who is going to arrest them when they’re all in it together?

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  straightalkingyorkshireman

The house will come down when the rats start to turn on each other.
See the New York Mafia.

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JohnK
JohnK
4 years ago

Plenty of detail. The last but one paragraph suggests that the usual suspects will use a ‘circular argument’ tactic to justify what they have done, and are attempting to pursue. Some might realise that ramping up the supply at a time of year when related infections are likely to crash is part of that idea.

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richlyon
richlyon
4 years ago

re. “The first thing to note is the huge difference in the positivity rate between vaccinated and unvaccinated groups. It is 24% in the vaccinated and 65% in the unvaccinated.”
I’ve fallen at the first hurdle. (i) I can’t find those percentages in the table, so I don’t know what they are referring to. (ii) Isn’t the point of the vaccine to reduce the positivity rate, and therefore wouldn’t you expect the positivity rate in the vaccinated to be lower? What am I missing?

I did reverse engineer the charts in the PHE summary and replot them on a linear Y-axis and linear time X-axis so I could see the data – the chart in the BMJ paper is, in my view, highly misleading regarding the 2 week post-vaccination spike: https://twitter.com/_RichardLyon/status/1395694783318958081

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maggie may
maggie may
4 years ago
Reply to  richlyon

I had the same problem but think i’ve worked it out. If you add the totals of both negative and positive results for the whole vaccinated group vs the unvaccinated, and then take the percentage of that total that is positive, i think you will get to 24% and 65%, though i haven’t done the maths exactly but it looks about right..

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SallyM
SallyM
4 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Yes, that’s correct. I added the totals and the percentages match the figures given in the article.

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maggie may
maggie may
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Phew, thanks. My maths hasn’t completely deserted me!!

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ScepticSteve
ScepticSteve
4 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Yes, here’s what I make it:

Positive test result:
Any vaccine  Unvaccinated  Total No
32832 23.6%  11758 65.1%    44590

Negative test result:
Any vaccine  Unvaccinated   Total No
106037 76.4%  6303 34.9%       112340

TOTAL:
138869      18061        156930

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richlyon
richlyon
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Thanks Maggie

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  richlyon

There are no sampling controls here. The figures are from opportunity samples, and thus worthless.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

If PHE say the chocolate ration has increased then the chocolate ration has increased

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago

Looks like another great piece of analysis from Will. But it’s too early for me to get my head around. I’ll try again later.

For the time being I’ll stick with the latest magnet and UFO videos.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
3 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Yes what is the deal with the magnets? Is iron chelating out of the blood and collecting by the vaccine site?

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TJN
TJN
3 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

No idea! But watching magnet videos is a good laugh.

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mojo
mojo
4 years ago

UK Column have been all over this for a number of months now. Gareth Icke last night said the gaslighting and propaganda are now going to be ramped up, society split and those who are holding out for the trials to be completed before they submit to a dangerous and unnecessary injection, will be ostracised.

If people are not waking up now, they never will. The brainwashing has been successful. As with the build up on all the scaremongering for the last twenty years, we have all had the opportunity to educate ourselves but many have chosen not too.

We must hold the line. We must not cave in to the next stage of this terrible crime on humanity. We are the difference between saving our future or unleashing something so disgusting and frightening that our children (the chosen few) will be in permanent serfdom.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  mojo

I am a bit more encouraged in that regard since yesterday.
I think it is really only the chattering propagandists and their celebrity lackeys that are in favour of apartheid and discrimination who are creating and trying to spread the hatred.
As with the unmasked, the vast majority of the population is far too polite to fall for it. They can also smell the many rats here.
I had a run in with some Covidian and jab zealot friends recently and stressed that I won’t want to have anything to do with them anymore if they are in favour of vaccine related discrimination, vaxxing the children or vaxx passports.
Not one of them was in favour of that.

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Woden
Woden
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

This ‘divide and rule’ scapegoating thing is back of a fag packet old style brainwashing.Who would fall for it nowadays?..rhetorical!

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Woden

sadly you would be surprised

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Woden
Woden
3 years ago
Reply to  mojo

That last D and G Icke broadcast was scary, but inspiring, he has been right all through this, and his site has contained so much uplifting stuff from such as Steiner, Alan Watts, Philosophers various etc. kept me going, frankly…

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Andy Lambeth
Andy Lambeth
4 years ago

The playing with numbers and the suspicious results are completely to be expected. I don’t have the time or the patience to look at the detail to be honest and I’ve always known that scientific research is never unbiased. What actually annoys me more is that these studies are completely reliant on a sizeable proportion of the population not taking the vaccine for the control group. They need us and yet they victimise us.

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maggie may
maggie may
4 years ago

For me, the problem with this study is it doesn’t actually tell me what I want to know and what is probably most relevant for the GBP. if someone had said to me a few years ago that i could have say a flu vaccine that had 95% efficacy, i would have assumed that meant that out of 100 people who have this vaccine, 95 of them won’t get the flu. And i think that’s what most people would assume from being given a figure of 95%.

We know that that’s not the case with the covid vaccine, that it’s only meant to lessen the symptoms. So what i want to know is how many of those in this study, either vaxxed or unvaxxed had it badly enough to go to hospital? How many of them died? Pure numbers and ratios might be interesting to statisticians but not to the average man in the street. We’re back to case numbers again which is completely misleading without the severity numbers.

If all the vaccine is going to do is mean I will spend possibly 3 days in bed with it instead of 1, frankly, I’m not interested. Perhaps this information is elsewhere in the report and Will was only concentrating on the numbers.

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Don’t forget to factor in the 3 days you are more likely to spend in bed because of the immediate side-effects of the “vaccine” (if you’re lucky!)

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Yes, one of my friends was out of action for more than a week. She has MS and was persuaded to have the vaccine by her mother and her MS nurse, wishes she hadn’t. And she’s certainly not getting the second one.

i realise i got the numbers round the wrong way in my original post, i meant so say if the vaccine meant i spent 1 day in bed instead of 3, that’s not much of a big deal to me.

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

I know a good handful of people who have been completely wiped out by the “vaccine” so far (so much so that they haven’t been able to work or function normally), all in the under 65 age group. I don’t personally know anyone who has been unwell with covid.
Following an article posted by Will yesterday about vaccinating children, I got thinking about the increasing likelihood of side effects following the “vaccine” the younger you are, which is actually being admitted now by the authorities. Does anyone know why this is the case, or have a good theory?

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  helenf

I suppose one argument could be (and this is as a purely layperson) that younger people have stronger immune systems than the old and so their bodies perhaps react more powerfully to the arrival of a foreign substance ie the vaccine. But it does seem to be the case, my sister, BIL and cousin all in their 70s, have had the vaxx and haven’t said anything to me about bad side effects though my cousin said she felt exhausted for a couple of days.

The friend i mentioned with MS who is an ex ICU nurse reckons that any frail and elderly person who had the same sort of side effects that she did post vaccine would be unlikely to survive.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

“… 95% efficacy, i would have assumed that meant that out of 100 people who have this vaccine, 95 of them won’t get the flu.”

… which is what most people would indeed assume. Which is why relative risk figures are often used to deliberately mislead. They distort the real world impact, and good research always quotes both figures.

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago

Tested positive for what exactly? I haven’t read the detail of the above (not enough coffee) but have the authors mentioned the sensitivity of the tests used in the study and how this compares to those used in the real world?

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago

Dear Mr Jones

Rather than kowtowing to the “vaccine” rollout and whether it’s effective at stopping the disease could you please investigate the harms it’s doing. There have been over 750,000 (yes you read that correctly) 750,000 ADVERSE REACTIONS AND 1100+ DEATHS – YES DEATHS!!!! You could start by going into the UK Column News site and looking at the shocking video “A Good Man Down”. Sobering stuff before you start extolling the virtues of theses abominable experimental medicines.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

Very good article thank you. Please read dr Mercola’s daily newsletter as well as Robert Kennedy’s children’s defense newsletter. Both have many articles, graphs, studies, regarding the experimental biologicals. Both try very hard to give us an alternative narrative which is lacking elsewhere.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
3 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Yes!

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

” discussed it at length with others who are medically qualified ”

Does that explain the lack of noting the absence of ARR data? – the medical profession isn’t good at stats.

These observational, non-RCT ‘studies’ are post-hoc justification, undertaken by another interested party.

Sorry to be cynical – I think we have justification.

Last edited 3 years ago by RickH
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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
3 years ago

I have a suggestion for a couple of variables to add to this mess.

1.) The flu vaccine. Flu vaccine has been documented to somehow induce greater susceptibility to coronaviruses. So although you think you’re looking at vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, what you’re actually looking at is flu vaccinated but no covid vaccine vs flu and covid vaccine, especially in old people’s homes, where the erosion of trust means that some inmates are not being covid vaccinated but are still happy to be flu vaccinated.

2.) The proper question is NOT how many people got sick, but how many died? I’d moot that if someone would FOI it, the number of people from old age and nursing homes dying within 28 days of receiving the covid vaccine are quite high. They might not turn up in this study because they aren’t dying in the home, but in hospital, (I live between 4 nursing homes and the number of ambulances coming back and forth ramped up massively over winter, although more coinciding with the AZ rollout than Pfizer), and the study doesn’t appear to be asking about deaths.

3.) The hypochondria and fear of missing out that started up as soon as the Pfizer was licensed was intense. I don’t think you can underestimate how many people will have got a sniffle, (doubtlessly picked up from a nasal flu vaccinated child), and presented for testing, whereupon they’d have fallen into the PCR black hole. They aren’t proper covid cases. Without decent testing, we will never know.

4.) A trend that is going under-investigated but is much more important is how many younger people (75 and younger) with good life expectancies (ie not likely to die within the next month from any health issue), are dying within 28 days of being vaccinated.

Will Jones – a challenge – send off an FOI to PHE to find out that statistic, (death within 28 days of vaccination, age graded to eliminate natural wastage). Also why not ask about rates of hospitalisation within 28 days?

See how far you get. See if they’ve even collected the data, (not collecting the data being the surest way the vaccine industry have of deflecting any implication that their product is in fact not “safe and effective”).

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Roger A
Roger A
3 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Haven’t done a FOI, just looked at ONS stats.
In the first Covid wave 50 odd K died from Covid vs 85K in the second wave so far.
Interesting is that first wave excess deaths were more in line with Covid deaths whereas excess deaths in the second wave are significanly lower than Covid deaths.

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Javhead
Javhead
3 years ago

NNT vs NNH (plus ARR vs RRR in thread)
Data from NEJM Israeli study and Pfizer trial published by UK Gov MHRA.
(References and data summary pic in tweet link below, see thread for ARR vs RRR):
https://mobile.twitter.com/JavRoJav/status/1372749574629060608

NNT vs NNH.PNG
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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Javhead

The thing about ARR/NNT is they vary with the prevalence while RRR does not. While virus levels are extremely low, as they are at the moment, ARR will be low. RRR has its own problems. The odds ratio which is used in the study avoids the problems of RRR and ARR.

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OKUK
OKUK
3 years ago

As Baboon said at the beginning of the thread “Will, thank you. You are about two months behind your commentators on your own website but you are catching up.”

BTL has been right on most of this:

  • vaccination will not make us free again – it is an enabler of oppression and removal of civil rights
  • the vaccine is experimental and potentially dangerous
  • the vaccine kills the very elderly and/or frail
  • protection of health is not the main motivation behind the vaccination programme
  • the Government has a plan to move the whole population on to Digital Compliance ID (aka “vaccine passporting”)
  • the government will continue compulsory masking beyond the end of June in order to maintain the sense of crisis and so justify introduction of Digital Compliance ID, probably some time in the late Autumn.
  • the Government has always wanted children to be Covid-vaccinated
  • WEF has a lot of influence in all this (note: the government is partnering with WEF on digital technology).

ATL has been woefully wrong or late to the table on all these points.

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago

How To Create An “Epidemic” – YouTube

Nice watch

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guy153
guy153
3 years ago

Great post! Trying to estimate anything, least of all “real world effectiveness” from Pillar 2 data is complete garbage right off the hop, with the completely non-random and arbitrary sampling criteria.

It sounds like they have a bunch of AZ nearing its “Best Before” date and want to get rid of it.

I agree the vaccine actually works well, but the second dose of AZ (according to all studies that weren’t completely science-free) showed very diminishing returns. It’s more worth getting the second dose if having one of the mRNA vaccines.

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