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British Public No Longer on Double Secret Probation; Just Probation

Okay, it’s an Animal House joke and those who aren’t of my vintage might not get it. But at one point, when Dean Vernon is trying to think of ways to nobble Delta House, he says, “There is a little known codicil in the Faber College constitution which gives the Dean unlimited power to preserve order in time of campus emergency.” On this basis, he puts the unruly fraternity on “double secret probation”.

The “alert level” was lowered today from “Level 4” to “Level 3”. The UK Government’s press release about it is full of “the science” – “The Joint Biosecurity Centre has recommended that… blah, blah, blah.” Apparently, the definition of Level 4 is “a COVID-19 epidemic is in general circulation; transmission is high or rising exponentially” and the definition of Level 3 is “a COVID-19 epidemic is in general circulation”.

Transmission hasn’t been “rising exponentially” since around March 18th, according to best estimates, so why has the Government left it until now to lower the “alert level” to 3? They really are making it up as they go along. Presumably, this charade is so Boris can say he’s abandoning the absurd two-metre social distancing rule because of “the science”.

Incidentally, according to the eagle-eyed reader keeping a beady watch on the NHS England daily death tolls, only two people died in English hospitals yesterday. He writes:

I was interested to read on the BBC news website a piece in which it was going through the various reasons people disbelieve some of the “facts” about COVID-19.

One of the reasons the BBC gave was that “people think the numbers are being misrepresented”.

I think the irony of that was lost on the BBC which regularly distort the numbers.

We only have to look at the officially produced figures released by the NHS every day, and the ONS weekly, to see for ourselves that the numbers quoted in the daily briefings are misrepresenting the actual figures.

He predicts that any day now NHS England will be forced to disclose that no people have died in English hospitals from COVID-19 the previous day.

Will that mean the Government drops the “alert level” to Level 2? Don’t bet on it.

Meanwhile, Britain’s largest hospital trust – the University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust – has become the first to declare it has no COVID-19 patients requiring treatment in intensive care.

Ripley’s Un-PC, Believe it or Not

I can understand Aunt Jemima being cancelled, even, at a pinch, Uncle Ben. I mean, it’s batshit crazy, but you can see the twisted logic. But Ripley from Aliens? The kick-ass space soldier who takes on one of the scariest creatures in the universe? She’s a feminist icon, surely? I mean, she’s right up there with JK Rowling… no, wait.

Incidentally, it isn’t just Aliens that now carries a “disclaimer” on Sky. According to the Mail, 16 films have now been put on the naughty step:

Sky has warned viewers that Breakfast at Tiffany’s, Flash Gordon, Aladdin and even a version of The Jungle Book from as recently as 2016 have “outdated values”, as broadcasters respond to concerns that some content is no longer acceptable.

Sky Cinema, the broadcasting giant’s movie service, has issued a disclaimer to its subscribers that some of its content “has outdated attitudes, languages and cultural depictions which may cause offence today”.

Sixteen films have the warning, including The Goonies, Aliens, Dumbo, Gone With The Wind, Lawrence of Arabia, Tropic Thunder, The Jazz Singer, The Littlest Rebel, The Lone Ranger, Balls of Fury and The Last Samurai.

Hang on a minute. Why hasn’t How to Lose Friends & Alienate People, the film based on my memoir of the same name, been given a “disclaimer”? Oh, the shame…

Has Smoking Always Been a Prophylactic Against the Plague?

A reader sent me the above extract from Thomas Hearne’s Diary. Looks like it isn’t just Covid that tobacco protects people from…

Greater Anglia Absolutely Determined to go Bust

Greater Anglia is literally begging people not to use its service

A reader has drawn my attention to the absurdly alarmist notice on the home page of Greater Anglia’s website. Here’s the notice in full:

Can you travel another way? Help us keep trains clear for those who really need them.

Greater Anglia is temporarily running an amended rail service as part of the national effort to deal with the coronavirus crisis. To support this, it is important that people work from home if they can, stagger their travel times to avoid crowds, and use other forms of transport wherever possible.

To help stay safe, you should maintain social distancing wherever possible and remember passengers should wear a face covering whilst on our stations or trains. This will be mandatory from 15 June 2020.

Social distancing measures will effectively cut the number of people able to travel on our trains by up to 90 per cent – so it’s even more important that people take only necessary journeys.

Passengers should always book online where possible and travel at quieter times, and we urge those who must travel to be considerate of other travellers and our staff during these testing times.

It seems like a parody. Social distancing has “effectively cut” the number of people who can use Greater Anglia’s service by “up to 90 per cent”? How have they worked that out? Nonetheless, this warning seems to be having the desired effect. According to the reader:

We travelled on four trains today and we were the only people in the entire carriage in each case…

It’s heart-breaking. Rail businesses, strapped for cash at the best of times, are now doing their utmost to discourage people from using their services. Their chances of surviving this period of insanity must be slim. Although, to be fair, they’re just doing the Government’s bidding. Perhaps with the “alert level” falling from “Level 4” to “Level 3”, they’ll be able to reduce the number of rail users they’ll have to cut from 90% to 75%.

It’s not just a cynical old Tory like me saying this, incidentally. Someone forwarded this message by the Labour-supporting railway historian Christian Wolmar:

The railways emphasis on simply deterring people from using trains will undoubtedly have a long term effect. Usage bottomed out at around 5 per cent of previous levels but even now, in the middle of June, it is only approximately 11%. How is the industry going to start persuading people that train travel is safe? In fact, evidence from Japan, Italy and New York suggests that very few people actually catch the disease from public transport – in research, few clusters were found on public transport.

When will the rail industry change its message? Waiting for a vaccine could be worse than waiting for Godot. Social distancing and the railways are simply incompatible and the industry bosses should be honest enough to accept that and put out messaging to that effect. Unfortunately the unions have been complicit in this as well. Rather than supporting measures that would begin to attract people back, TSSA boss Manuel Cortes said on June 15th that he hoped the mandatory wearing of masks would not mean people started using the railways again. Yet, his members’ jobs depend on precisely that.

The long term consequences could be devastating. The hordes of the Treasury are already circling the rail industry’s wagons. They are already unhappy about the huge cost of the bail-out to the railway companies and things will only get worse if passenger numbers do not pick up substantially soon. Even optimists in the industry reckon usage will reach 50% of last year’s norm by the middle of next year. That means subsidies to operate the railway will be enormous – possibly £300m per month in addition to the £5bn or so a year for investment – and there will be enormous pressure to cut back on investment and even on services.

The railways must start welcoming people and not keep telling them to go away.

Schools Soon Able to Increase “Protective Bubbles” From 15 to 30!

How’s this for a non-climb down climb down? According to the Mail, Gavin Williamson has announced that schools will be able to increase the number of pupils in “protective bubbles” from 15 to 30 so all children can return in September. So, er, what’s the difference between a “protective bubble” and a “classroom”, then? Thirty pupils is the average class size in England, for heaven’s sake.

He said the “bubbles” would in future be expanded to “include the whole class” – which would be around 30 pupils. But he refused to give more details, saying full guidance for schools will be published over the next fortnight.

Expanded to “include the whole class”? So they’re not actually “bubbles” any more? Doesn’t make a lot of sense.

The only “bubbles” are in Boris’s brain.

Simon Dolan Gets His Day in Court

Simon Dolan has been given a High Court date for his application for permission to Judicially Review the Government’s coronavirus regulations to be heard: July 2nd.

The Judicial Review will seek to challenge the Government on three main points:

  • Whether lockdown is unlawful because the Government implemented regulations under the Public Health Act 1984 instead of the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 or the Coronavirus Act 2020.
  • The legality of the continuation of lockdown, and whether the tests for lifting it are too narrow, failing to take account of the economic and social impacts of lockdown.
  • Whether the restrictions brought in by the Government contravene the European Convention of Human Rights, which cover the right to liberty, family life, education and property.

To date, the CrowdJustice campaign behind the Judicial Review has raised more than £182,000, with 5,400 pledges. Thanks in no small part to readers of this site. If you feel like contributing again, click here.

Sign the Stu Peters Petition

The Free Speech Union has gone to bat for Stu Peters, the Manx Radio host who’s been suspended by his employer and referred to the Isle of Man’s Communications Commission – the equivalent of Ofcom – because he had the temerity to challenge the concept of “White Privilege”. This is a flagrant violation of Stu Peters’ right to free speech and the FSU has written to the Communications Commission demanding it drop its investigation and exonerate him.

A petition has been started by some Isle of Man locals in support of Stu. Please sign it to show your support for free speech.

Another Poem

Tiree MacGregor, who has written a poem for Lockdown Sceptics before, has written another.

Of a Convention under Threat

“[A]nd the two honest men grasped each other’s hard hands in mutual understanding.”
— George Eliot, Adam Bede

Handshaking: formerly, a civil act
In which the right hand, classically, grasped
Another’s and, depending on the tact
Of each, then “shook” (jerked up and down), while clasped
Briefly or long; in pressure varied, some
Shakes called “firm,” “crushing,” “wet fish,” even “non-”;
Of universal use; perhaps had come
From early in mankind’s existence on
The continent of Africa; of late,
Since civil life has seemed to many rotten
And Covid fears hold sway at any rate,
Avoided if not seemingly forgotten,
Forbye defences of civility
Put forth by lockdown sceptics (please which see).

Round-Up

And on to the round-up of all the stories I’ve noticed, or which have been been brought to my attention, in the last 24 hours:

Theme Tune Suggestions From Readers

Two suggestions for theme tunes for this site from readers today: “Lunacy” by Swans and “Right to Decide” by Hawkwind.

Small Businesses That Have Reopened

A few weeks ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have reopened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you. Now that non-essential shops have reopened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet.

Shameless Begging Bit

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And Finally…

Amusing video by a YouTuber calling himself AwakenWithJP. It purports to be useful advice for risk-averse people – particularly about how they can protect themselves from the super-dangerous, Spanish Flu-like, killer-virus known as Covid.

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James Plevick
James Plevick
6 years ago

Great site Toby. This whole virus schlock is greatest crock of all time. Media fomented and greedily grasped by power-crazed psycopaths.

CarrieAH
CarrieAH
6 years ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/20/coronavirus-has-downgraded-tiger-wild-cat-could-die-without/

Coronavirus has downgraded from a “tiger to a wild cat” and could die out on its own without a vaccine, an infectious diseases specialist has claimed.

Prof Matteo Bassetti, head of the infectious diseases clinic at the Policlinico San Martino hospital in Italy, told The Telegraph that Covid-19 has been losing its virulence in the last month and patients who would have previously died are now recovering.

The expert in critical care said the plummeting number of cases could mean a vaccine is no longer needed as the virus might never return.

WhyNow
WhyNow
6 years ago

Interesting. A second post deleted, containing a simple factual comment about NHSX.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago

Prince Harry backs move to ban Swing Low, Sweet Chariot: Duke of Sussex signals his support for review of England rugby anthem linked to slavery despite huge backlash from fans  
More establishment cowardice. When even the likes of Johnson is showing signs of a spine on an issue, you’ve got to be pretty invertebrate to do what this “Prince” has done.

Annie
Annie
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

What a nasty little louse.

CarrieAH
CarrieAH
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

As far as I can understand, this is a political issue and Royals don’t get involved with politics? Or as he’s left the Royal family I suppose he thinks it’s ok to do so now. Lost all respect for him a few months ago I’m afraid. Very sad, as he’s been led up a very thorny garden path.

Polemon2
Polemon2
6 years ago

Visited local garden centre today.Not particularly busy but had some vicarious pleasure in walking in the opposite direction of every “one-way” floor mrking.

WhyNow
WhyNow
6 years ago

I made a comment about the rather unusual background of the former head of NHSX. This is the unit of the NHS that came up with the plan to develop an in-house mobile app.
A degree in Divinity followed by 13 years at the Foreign Office does not sound the most likely background for a technology innovator.
My comment was removed!

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  WhyNow

Where did you make the comment?

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago

More antisocial distancing lunacy, this time the pub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf2-siqUncY
 
At this rate how many pubs will still be there before October?
 

Rabbit
Rabbit
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

So many hard earned businesses, my nearest local had only recently been taken over, doing such a good job as well. I will be there on the 4th supporting them even if I have to stand outside in an umbrella in the rain.

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago
Reply to  Rabbit

Good luck. Hopefully your local won’t be as bad as this one.

mjr
mjr
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

i can see that working well after 5 or 6 pints

CarrieAH
CarrieAH
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Oh goodness I couldn’t even finish watching that! How on earth does the lady presenter keep a straight face explaining all that garbage?

Tony Rattray
6 years ago

Lockdown isn’t working. Britain’s better off without sage, boris, nicola and mark.

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T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago
Reply to  Tony Rattray

This clearly isn’t about any pandemic, deadly virus, second third or fourth wave. It is has clearly all been manufactured for some reason to destroy society in it’s current form. After all this time in isolation, paranoia is setting in because it doesn’t make any sense to me whatsoever

Tony Rattray
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

Its the final coronation of the nanny state, but the crown will fall. Stay sane.

Rabbit
Rabbit
6 years ago

Watching the football right now on TV, can’t really believe what I am seeing.

On the plus side, have had children’s friends over for several hours today and I find this encouraging that even if we might not be saying it out loud the other parents must be like minded. No social distancing, just normal life.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago

Looking at the “community guidelines” for this Parler Twitter alternative, it looks as though they are about as good as we will get. No provision for “hate speech” or for people complaining about “offence”, and nothing that looks as though it will be easily twisted into such. So there’s some protection from what happened to Twitter, Facebook etc.
 
Nothing to stop the management deciding it has to be “responsible” once it gets big enough to want to appeal to the mainstream, but it’s pretty much impossible to guard against that anyway. Just have to be ready to jump ship when it happens. Vehicles for provision of information and the expression of opinions are perhaps the only areas where diversity is actually an unalloyed good. Knowing who the owners are would be useful as a guide to how things might go.
 
Having to comply with the US’s definitions of “terrorist groups” is a problem, since that is usually determined by the US’s interests and the interests of those who can influence the US regime, but since the US is pretty much the only country in the world with even a plausible pretence of genuine protection for free speech generally,… Read more »

Offlands
Offlands
6 years ago

!4 injured, 3 dead in multiple stabbings in Reading. Possibly terror related:
 
https://www.getreading.co.uk/news/reading-berkshire-news/forbury-gardens-emergency-services-including-18459832

sok
sok
6 years ago
Dont't know what everyone else thinks but I am getting really pissed off with this government and all the other businesses and organisations that seem to be activley trying to fuck us all up for no reason  and getting us to pay for it all through future taxes. Fuck them all!
Annie
Annie
6 years ago

 
Here’s a parable for Sunday, if the bishops haven’t succeeded in abolishing Sunday yet.
 
A certain man went down from Piccadilly to Hyde Park Corner, and fell among BML thugs, which beat him up, because he was white, leaving him half dead.
 
And by chance there cam down a certain C of E rector that way; and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 
 
And likewise an NHS nurse, when she was near the place, looked on him, and saw he wore no face mask, and passed by on the other side.   
 
But a certain human being, as he journeyed, came where he was, and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
 
And went to him, and raised him up, and put him in his car, and drove him to A and E, and insisted that he be given treatment then and there.
 
And when he departed, he exhorted A and E, saying, Take care of him, and see that ye say not that he died of Covid 19. 
 
Which now of these three, thinkest thou, did right?
 
And they all answered, the rector and the… Read more »

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Time for a Newer Testament and a new Covenant. The rock having clearly failed.

IanE
IanE
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yeah, not much humanity about at the moment, and none in this vile government (and only the odd hint, here and there, in Parliament).

Dave Tee
Dave Tee
6 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Many are they that pass by on the other side as I approacheth, thinking me to be an leper and accursed of the Lord. truly, they commit the sin of Onan with Tamar.

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago

I thought the attached was interesting, bearing in mind many of us will be ‘encouraged’ to be guinea pigs for a new vaccine coming to a store near anyone over 50 this autumn:
 
https://news.sky.com/story/primodos-victims-face-disappointment-as-government-u-turns-on-disability-support-report-12011193
 
When the government tried to get out of compensation on grounds there was no causality (back in 2017), that report was roundly criticised by none other than Professor Heneghan:
 
https://www.cebm.net/2019/04/the-primodos-story/
 
Of course, these are all just mere coincidences, but, as per comments on yesterday’s thread, we need to stand aside and let the Cabinet, their partners, children, parents, civil servants and Common Purpose types be in the first guinea pig round!

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago

The Cabinet and their friends would see to it that they were not injected with the real thing.. Gates does not vaccinate his own children! He has already said that we can expect 700,000 deaths from any new vaccine and said they must have indemnity from prosecution for any deaths/damage the vaccine causes.. Go figure, as they say…

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Quite. Remember the furore over Tony Blair’s youngest son and the MMR vaccine – there was a ‘non-confirmation’ confirmation!

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago
Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

That second one is terrifying, couldn’t watch it all… how on earth do the military know that by 2025 the UK population will only be 10 million???

Bella
Bella
6 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

They don’t, see below.

Bella
Bella
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

2nd one: Deagel.com is a model based on the collapse of the American economy and is likely no more accurate than Neil Ferguson was

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
6 years ago

Dean Vernon Wormer played by the late great John Vernon

OKUK
OKUK
6 years ago

(Mr Britain approaches the breakfast table)
 
Kindly Housekeeper: What’s up with you Mr Britain? You look like you’ve seen a ghost….
 
Mr Britain: I had this terrible dream, a really bad dream. Everyone in the country had been put under house arrest. They said there was this terrible plague and that 500,000 would die. The Prime Minister and all his closest colleagues got sick. Then people started protesting in their thousands about the death of a convicted criminal somewhere in the USA, somewhere thousands of miles away – for some reason, everyone thought it was important. I know it doesn’t make sense, because everyone was still under house arrest at the same time! The people protesting tried to demolish Churchill’s statue and burn down the Cenotaph. And – this was really weird – the people from Yorkshire Tea said it was a good idea, and then the people from PG Tips said the exact same thing! I know!! It makes no sense!!! And then they started banning and arresting anyone who said it was a bad idea to protest like that. And Piers Morgan came on TV and said that was quite right because they were the real… Read more »

John Pretty
John Pretty
6 years ago

“It’s not just a cynical old Tory like me saying this, incidentally.”
 
Surely, it’s time to call “time!” on this pseudo-conservative rabble infesting the Palace of Westminster. They give conservatism a bad name.
 
I know that Boris is popular with some here because of what he apparently did to promote Brexit, but I always suspected that – like being Prime Minister – it was just his elitist way of killing time in his overprivileged and otherwise boring life.
 
You can be a conservative with out being a dick, surely?

IanE
IanE
6 years ago
Reply to  John Pretty

And you can be a Cressida without being (remotely) conservative!

Tyneside Tigress
Tyneside Tigress
6 years ago
Reply to  IanE

Or indeed a police officer!

Mike Smith
Mike Smith
6 years ago
Reply to  John Pretty

Voting Conservative clearly doesn’t work. They simply are not conservative. How obvious does it have to be?
The question is no longer whether to abandon the three traditional parties, but how this is to be done.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  Mike Smith

A party needs to be set up with the right kind of high profile and deep pocketed backing and the right policies to catch the attention and enthusiasm of genuine conservatives. Doesn’t necessarily need to win many seats, at least early on. Just threaten enough “Conservative” constituency majorities to force the “Conservatives” to actually stand up to the leftists occasionally and maybe to actually push through the occasional actual conservative policy. Such as breaking up and disestablishing the BBC, which is a necessary precondition to liberating the country. And to make it personally dangerous for “Conservative” MPs and ministers to be too obviously and publicly submissive to the likes of the BLM.
 
Also trying to appeal to both sides will probably just end in repeating the compromise and surrender experience of the “Conservative” Party, so probably two parties are needed. Maybe the Greens can do the job on the left.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Do you think it would be too early to set up such a party now?

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Not too early for people to start talking about it and preparing the ground. Might be a better time later to announce it, tactically.
 
Personally, I’d like it to be one where apart from a very few basic principles and policy commitments, the rest was left to local constituency organisations. You’d have to accept some local embarrassments, but provided you prepare for that by publicly committing to constituency independence, answerable only to local voters, the national party could ride it out.
 
Centralisation of party political power and increasing US-driven presidentialism is a big part of our problems I think. Maybe if we could have the prospect of positions for MPs who could actually think and act for themselves, we might get some candidates a little less sheep-like than the current denizens of the Commons.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  smileymiley

Far too much credit given to the government’s absurd non-case there. “Mounting evidence against”!? The case should have been closed back at the beginning of May, when the ridiculous truth about the origin of the calamitous 2m advice was revealed:
 
Government has ‘terrorised’ Britons into believing coronavirus will kill them, says adviser 
“Prof Dingwall said he had been told by a senior public health specialist that “we knew it was one metre but we doubled it to two because we did not think the British population would understand what one metre was and we could not trust them to observe it so we doubled it to be on the safe side“.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

..which means the vast majority of workplaces need not have closed, and the furlough scheme would not have needed to be used as widely.. Good point for Simon’s case that the actions were out of all proportion to the potential danger of the virus..

Polemon2
Polemon2
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Pr Dingwall. A professional academic with no apparent experience of the commercial world. Of course he knows best.

matt
matt
6 years ago

I’ve just got back from Greenwich Park. I went there to meet my brother for some beers – it’s a lovely day in London and it was his birthday on Thursday. I haven’t really been to Greenwich Park much since The Day The World Went Mad, because it’s pretty busy and my dog likes to investigate people sitting down (and steal things from picnics) and people seem to treat dogs like they _are_ the virus nowadays, so I’ve avoided the stress.

Anyway, the point is, I discovered the flower garden is closed and has been throughout.

The flower garden is a fairly large area at the south edge of the park. It’s a really lovely place, especially to sit and have a few beers in the sun. Here’s why it’s closed:

There are no dogs allowed in the flower garden
Because there are no dogs allowed in the flower garden, the flower garden has gates and they have to stay closed
Because we can’t trust people to touch gates and live anymore, the gates must be locked.

So the flower garden is closed.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  matt

The logic of the insane asylum. Such utter, foolish waste.

smileymiley
smileymiley
6 years ago
Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago

Simon Dolan has retweeted this. Should go viral:
 
https://twitter.com/EndLockdownNow1/status/1274301468267462656

CarrieAH
CarrieAH
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I’ll pop over to Twitter and retweet. It won’t make me popular amongst my followers but I’m past caring.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

If only *one* transport company looks into this and realised the possibility of them being sued, then I think it will be dropped very quickly everywhere. On another subject, how are the latest BLM protests going in London? Technically there should have been arrests if they are not in socially-distanced groups of 6… Not seen any media as yet…

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Agree. Transport companies (even TFL) are struggling financially, the last thing they would want are lawsuits from people who have collapsed or had a major ashtma attack or anxiety due to wearing a mask or face covering.
 
Not seen anything about BLM protests in London but Piers Corbyn has been arrested again.

Alice
Alice
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Here’s what TFL is planning to do, according to the Evening Standard:
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/tfl-baby-on-board-badges-coronavirus-masks-a4473921.html
 
So will everyone be able to download or print the badge? How does that make sense? (rhetorical question).
 
By the way, I had a message from my GP (via receptionist) as a reply to my inquiry about exemption certificates: “It is government policy that doctors should not issue exemption certificates to the public.” Could any doctors or lawyers here shed some light on this?
 
 
 
 
 

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Good question. I wonder if this is a desperate move by TFL because they know that its unenforceable.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I rather expect 99% of the UK population to develop asthma, under the same ‘rules’ that BLM rallies without social distancing no longer cause transmission of the virus..

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Agree. Or other respiratory issues.

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

He’s been charged in relation to the previous two arrests

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I think it has been established that any BLM related event is untouchable. With the knowing blessing of our government.

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, but in that case how come Mason Mills tweeted critically about the policing in London last night?

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  Carrie

Mason Mills, whoever he is, can Tweet all he wants but I see no evidence of any political will to disperse BLM gatherings.
 
There was one where I live a few days ago, know about in advance by police and councillors, who apparently “planned” for it – I suspect the “planning” was basically to be ready in case it got violent, perhaps as a result of the gathering being confronted by some opposing group. The event went ahead, peacefully, and the police looked on.
 
I don’t know enough about the interface between the police and central government to be able to say the extent to which central government is able to direct the police to do something, but I struggle to accept that if the PM really wanted those gatherings to stop, and had the will to enforce that, he wouldn’t.
 
During the 2011 riots, I seem to remember there was a period in which the police lost control and didn’t react, and then there was a massive show of force, arrests, convictions, heavy sentences. I think it’s a fair bet that some of the impetus came from the top for that, and it wasn’t just a… Read more »

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I don’t know…that is why I asked! Mason gets a lot of feedback on his tweets, both positive and negative and people do ask him a lot of questions, which he mostly does answer, even if cryptically. On some topics he is completely ‘silent’ (ie no tweets), presumably because there would be a backlash of criticism. If the government are seriously intending not to do anything, then I would’ve expected him to just not tweet, in order to not get a load of negative comments. This is what he tweeted last night – I am honestly curious to why he would write this, if no action against Khan (with regard to policing) is planned??? Or is he just blame-shifting? ‘Police officers and the lawful citizens of London have been failed by a weak Chief of Police and spineless Mayor. No officer should ever flee from acts of abuse or violence.Criminality should be met with firm action & consequences.’

Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Exactly. I can see why some people are suggesting that we sceptics should carry something BLM related as that’s the only way we’ll be let off the hook when it comes to these “guidelines”

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
6 years ago

new track and trace update!

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Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

LOL 🙂

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago

Visited a friend this afternoon: I initiated a friends’ hug! We’re still alive! I don’t think that either of us will need to be ventilated, locked away or dosed up with Remdesivir/ dexamethasone or hydroxychloroquine. Who’d have guessed?
 
On a darker note, her daughter has just had to make 2 of her staff redundant.

CarrieAH
CarrieAH
6 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

I did that yesterday – I got invited inside friend’s house, we hugged and hugged and cried because neither of us have had proper human touch for weeks, and then sat and drank tea and chatted and hugged again. My friend has now been brought over from the dark side as we couldn’t have done this two weeks ago! So happy.

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  CarrieAH

Well done!

IanE
IanE
6 years ago
Reply to  CarrieAH

Great – puts me in mind of that quote about people going mad on mass but only recovering one by one!

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
6 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

You’re only both alive because other people are wearing masks. They do it for your safety and also wish you dead for not sticking to the rules. Funny lot they are.

RDawg
RDawg
6 years ago

Kingston riverside today, SW London. People actually living their lives and no hint of antisocial distancing. Was about as busy as it has ever been, even in the “old normal”.

About 15-20% of idiots wearing masks in the town centre still, but I do think people are starting to see through the BS.

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Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

Very few masks where I live – low single digit %
M&S relaxed
Town centre fairly relaxed – not too many silly signs
Football and fitness training on the common – kids in football training distanced, then go off and play together with no distancing – box-ticking mentality is part of what got us here
Looking around, seems hard to imagine there are still so many allegedly supportive of all this – suppose those people are still inside most of the time?

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago

This is a must watch, very brave lady. Now I wonder if BLM will go afterGates?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wQx-BjmfJk

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

Great video, though maybe unwise to give it the title she has because youtube will likely take it down. Someone needs to save it on bitchute quickly!

Victoria
Victoria
6 years ago
Reply to  T. Prince

You are right. I have just watched it.
 
This lady is impressive, she accused the Gates Foundation to be involved in Philantropic Racism, illegal experimentation on on African women, vaccinations laced with HcG to make women infertile etc. #ExposeBillgates

Carrie
Carrie
6 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

All true though – I read about the sterilisation issue years ago (early 2000s..). Came to light when someone noticed it was only women that were being vaccinated, and only those of child-bearing age – bit of a giveaway..

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago

Extract from interesting article on American Thinker
 
“It appears the biggest spike is in California, a state that is substantially closed, not in the states that have reopened. Why don’t reporters do their job and tell the truth?
 
The actual numbers are readily available to reporters if they want the people to see them instead of spreading talking points, but we won’t see them because the public wouldn’t be scared into submission.
 
Here are some actual numbers through June 18th:
 
States with very strict restrictions

New York, Population 19.5 million, deaths 31,861 Last seven-day deaths 390. New Jersey, Population 8.9 million, deaths 12,819Last seven-day deaths 376. Illinois, Population 12.7 million, deaths 6,537 Last seven-day deaths 352.  
States that are less restrictive and substantially open

Florida, Population 21.5 million, deaths 3,061 Last seven-day deaths 213. Texas, Population 29.0 million, deaths 2,103 Last seven-day deaths 191. Georgia, Population 10.6 million, deaths 2,605 Last seven-day deaths 230. Colorado, Population 5.8 million, deaths 1.402 Last seven-day deaths 90. Arizona, Population 7.3 million, deaths 1,271 Last seven-day deaths 144. Wisconsin, Population 5.8 million, deaths 719 Last seven-day deaths 37. Missouri, Population 6.1million, deaths 909 Last seven-day deaths 52. Indiana, Population 6.7million,… Read more »

The Spingler
The Spingler
6 years ago

Why is Piers Corbyn being prosecuted for attending two protests when no one, as far as I’m aware is being prosecuted for attending the BLM protests? Surely that can’t be right? I’m no fan of Corbyn and his weird weather forecasting or his 5G conspiracy theories but there has to be equity in the law doesn’t there?

Victoria
Victoria
6 years ago
Reply to  The Spingler

Agree

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  The Spingler

“but there has to be equity in the law doesn’t there?“
 
You and your quaint old fashioned notions…

The Spingler
The Spingler
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m a dreamer, it’s true

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
6 years ago
Reply to  The Spingler

Perhaps if Piers Corbyn turned up in Hyde Park with 5 or 10 thousand supporters, there might for some strange reason be equity in the law. It has a lot to do with the level of cowardice the so-called “Police Service” displays, depending on how many they have to face.

Marion
Marion
6 years ago
Reply to  The Spingler

He’s spot on when he talks about the idiocy of man made global warming though, and of course right about this present foolishness.

Julian
Julian
6 years ago

What a crock of shit.
 
Does he want a Nobel prize for pointing out that printing money doesn’t work?
 
“The moral case is unanswerable” Really? I’m not aware that a referendum was conducted on the matter among the over-55s. I think there was broad support for lockdown among all age groups.
 
Pensioners have done their bit to build what we have now, they deserve to enjoy that. I’m not saying that there are definitely not imbalances that ought arguably to be corrected, but that’s got nothing to do with covid-19.
 
We’ll all end up paying for it, for a long time. Sadly stripping the cabinet of their personal fortunes isn’t going to scratch the surface.

sok
sok
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Need to get the economy moving ASAP. Forget all the contact tracing,social distancing signs on lamposts, perspex visors and all the rest of the theatrical over the top nonsense, yeah, the gov fucked up and just because everyone is being paid by them at the moment seems like nobody can get over the fact that they have. we gotta just get moving and do the bitching about who did what later. We are sinking fast. Action.NOW!

Steve Hayes
6 years ago

This morning on BBC News Annita McVeigh presented a piece of deaths because of COVID 19, which she pointed out are not counted as COVID 19 deaths, so COVID 19 deaths are under-counted, she asserted. The BBC provided examples of these because of COVID 19 deaths. A child in Columbo with leukaemia who was denied treatment. A woman in Italy who had stroke and was denied treatment. According to the BBC, people who die as a result of being denied medical treatments are all COVID 19 deaths.
 
These people are destroying satire.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Indeed. This needs knocking on the head asap by ridicule before they can manage to establish the idea that lockdown-caused deaths are “due to the disease”.

Saved To Death
Saved To Death
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Deaths due to medical negligence. The real story is why are people not being held to account for this.

Steve Hayes
6 years ago
Reply to  Saved To Death

In terms of the health care professionals, their defence is obviously “Just following orders”. Where have we heard that before?

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  Saved To Death

Medical and governmental negligence, caused by panic, fuelled by the shameless BBC and other TV and print news media.

The Spingler
The Spingler
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Indeed – those deaths are caused by lockdowns and the irrational fear stoked by the media not covid

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

It’s worse – they are trying to create a new narrative. But on behalf of whom?

Steve Hayes
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Rose

I think it is a case of collective madness, rather than a conspiracy.

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