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by Jonathan Barr
26 April 2021 2:42 AM

  • “‘Let the bodies pile high in their thousands’. PM’s incendiary remark during fight over lockdowns is latest claim in No10 drama” – Boris is alleged to have said he would rather see “bodies pile high in their thousands” than order another lockdown, the Daily Mail reports. Downing Street deny the claim
  • “You won’t need a Covid passport to visit the pub” – Boris has shelved plans to introduce vaccine passports in pubs and restaurants, according to the Daily Mail, with officials instead focussing on a scheme for foreign travel, theatres and night clubs
  • “Mass testing programme is ‘stretching’ purpose of rapid tests, regulator warns” – The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency is concerned people could view a negative test as a green light for ignoring lockdown restrictions, according to the Telegraph
  • “Quality of support for UK over-50s who lost jobs in pandemic raises concern” – The Resolution Foundation is warning that many older unemployed workers may fall out of the workforce for good, the Guardian reports
  • “Mystery shrouds growth in Covid cases in young people” – The Telegraph investigates why younger people seem to have been harder hit by recent waves of COVID-19
  • “The Covid debt isn’t going away. We have to live with it” – Writing for the Sunday Times, David Smith looks at recommendations made in a new report for dealing with the national debt, which now stands at 97.7% of GDP
  • “March for Freedom” – “As a trade unionist and socialist I have been on many demonstrations in my time,” writes David Fletcher on LeftLockdownSceptics, “but this was the largest I’ve ever seen or participated in”
  • “A group of conspiracy theorists descend on London” – “I was joined by nearly a million people yesterday for a stroll around London town,” writes Antonia Rolls, “but looking for any mention of the march at all on any kind of news outlet later, we only heard about the police bit at the end”
  • “Thousands Unite For Freedom in London March this weekend” – Dan Astin Gregory covers Saturday’s march, one of the largest protests in British history, for the Pandemic Podcast
  • “EU ‘confident’ of herd immunity by summer” – The European Union’s vaccine task force chief has said that the EU is on track to produce enough vaccines to achieve herd immunity by the middle of July, according to Deutsche Welle
  • “French drug assessment centre demands removal of all four widely used COVID-19 vaccines” – A translation of a report by a regional independent drug assessment centre in the West of France (CTIAP), provided by LifeSite
  • “Qatar boss pours cold water on hopes for rapid aviation recovery” – Al Baker, the Chief Executive of Qatar Airlines, is not optimistic about the prospects of a recovery in the aviation industry, warning that the “U.K. could end up with fourth, fifth or sixth waves of cases after it opens up its borders to international travel”, the Irish Times reports
  • “Germans protest curfews in several cities” – There were demonstrations in Frankfurt and Hanover on Saturday night against the imposition of a night curfew, Deutsche Welle reports
  • “COVID-19 has stolen a young generation’s future” – The situation for young people seeking their first job after graduation “verges on hopelessness”, writes Salome Gongadze in Deutsche Welle
  • “Why aren’t we treating Covid?” – Writing for the Cyprus Mail, Theo Panyides wants to know why treatments that have been proved to be effective against Covid are not being used when people first test positive
  • “Did COVID-19 spark the latest Gaza violence? – analysis” – The escalation of violence in Gaza over the weekend may in part have been driven by Gaza’s need for COVID-19 assistance, analysts have suggested to the Jerusalem Post
  • “Tamil Nadu and Kerala have fought the Covid tsunami well so far” – The Times of India looks at why it is that the health systems in the states of Tamil Nadu and Kerala have not collapsed like those in other parts of India
  • “Premier Mark McGowan reveals new case numbers on day two of lockdown” – Residents of Western Australia are being told to expect restrictions to last beyond its scheduled end of Monday night according to Perth now
  • “Moving moment proud Aussie honouring our fallen Diggers walks alone through the streets of Perth” – An elderly resident of Perth went out to mark ANZAC day despite the city’s lockdown and the police gave him a guard of honour, Daily Mail Australia reports
  • “The Gestapo came again attacking the Church!” – The Calgary police have made another visit to the church of Pastor Artur Pawlowski who so memorably saw them off last time
  • “Premier Doug Ford gets emotional and apologises for missteps” – Watch the Premier of Ontario Doug Ford’s apologise for his decision to close playgrounds and increase police powers, decisions his Government reversed 24 hours later
  • “The fight back against ‘lockdown lunacy’ has begun in London” – The Sky News Australia programme Outsiders covers Saturday’s protests in London
  • “The sheer numbers who marched for freedom” – Martin Daubney links to some good footage of Saturday’s protests, giving you a sense of the protest’s size

Superb speeded-up video of yesterday’s anti-lockdown protest in London gives a true grasp of the sheer numbers who marched for freedom

Great work by ⁦@richardcings⁩ 👏🏻 pic.twitter.com/M2ICUIuNg8

— Martin Daubney 🇬🇧 (@MartinDaubney) April 25, 2021
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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago

Show this to anybody suggesting you should get the jab.
Tell them this is some of the ‘Mis-information’ from the internet that is informing your decision.
There many many other extremely qualified doctors and scientists like this being censored by the BBC, SKY, etc.
Ask them if they believe they were informed before they gave they their ‘informed’ consent
Maybe the penny will drop for them…

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/videos/dr-ryan-cole-stopthemandate/

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Of course this is evil. the media know what is going on and they are complicit. Javid talking about a massive Testing Centre against “future Pandemics” with that evil squirty smile on his face

The Myth of the ‘Pandemic of the Unvaxxed’ -The Lies Behind the ‘Pandemic of Unvaxxed’

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/08/16/pandemic-of-unvaxxed-lies.aspx?ui=1fb065e0c4152b58bd4ed94cf29c7cbfad40307fb723460ddabacd55f3c58b0c&sd=20210518&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210816&mid=DM958703&rid=1236296659

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

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KidFury
KidFury
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Anyone suggesting I get the jab gets told to fuck off.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

well that’s one way to educate them

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KidFury
KidFury
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

i’m not interested in educating anyone. i’m interested in people doing whatever they want to, and allowing me to do whatever I want to,

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James Kreis
James Kreis
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Quite.

covid-memes-3-10-1.jpg
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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
3 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

On entering our house an estate agent asked if I’d like him to wear a mask, and added that he was double jabbed. I responded that I didn’t care, wasn’t jabbed, no member of the house was, and wearing a mask was entirely his choice – he looked a bit shocked and unsure what to do. After a pause he put the mask away and entered the house. Small victories.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Lure of commission trumps fear?

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

It’s funny but now I think about, very few people have told me they’ve had the stabs. Many said at the the beginning that they were going to have them but it’s been kind of quiet since…no one has asked me either!

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BungleIsABogan
BungleIsABogan
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

I can’t be bothered to speak to them – they just get “the look” and I shake my head slowly whilst raising my eyebrows.

Any further persistence on their part would meet with the same “advice” that you give.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  BungleIsABogan

I counter with: ‘First, tell me about your haemorrhoids.”

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Why beat about the bush?

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Yes – that’s a really good reference. An excellent examination of the issues involved in the ‘vaccines’.

One bit that some individuals posting here should note is right at the end – around the 30m mark. It highlights the folly of suggesting that the snake oil is OK for the ‘vulnerable’.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Presumably this the same video that is discussed here:

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/scicheck-idaho-doctor-makes-baseless-claims-about-safety-of-covid-19-vaccines/

To quote:

A viral video features a doctor making dubious claims about COVID-19 vaccines and treatments at a forum hosted by Idaho’s lieutenant governor. Dr. Ryan Cole claims mRNA vaccines cause cancer and autoimmune diseases, but the lead author of the paper on which Cole based that claim told us there is no evidence mRNA vaccines cause those ailments.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

yes, thats him – much more convincing than the pharma financed drug pusher ‘experts’ – and with McCullough, Malone and many many more calling out the problems with the gene therapy the more convinced I get – but no surprise those with their snouts in the trough are attempting to discredit the real experts

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

”but the lead author of the paper on which Cole based that claim told us there is no evidence mRNA vaccines cause those ailments”

if you don’t look, you wont find

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ebygum
ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

As soon as you see someone quoting fact check.org/ Reuters or Full Fact to name a few, you know that the person they are talking about is likely telling the truth. It’s fantastic really because they give you a good clue as to who is really annoying them, saying things they don’t like and likely hitting the nail on the head.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

My default reaction to any claim from “fact checkers” is that the original source MUST be correct.

Why?

Fact checkers tell lies. End of.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

The trouble about arguing from expertise is that both sides can produce experts with excellent credentials and, of course, both sides will say that theirs are the “real” experts. The way I see it, you can either ignore expertise and just look at the data – and this means ignoring expert’s anecdotes about their experience – and/or you can examine the logic and integrity of an expert’s arguments (which does not require expertise just clear thinking).

Cole’s assertion that the vaccines cause cancer seems to fail on both counts.

* It would appear there is no data to support the case that these vaccines might cause cancer (you say you won’t find it if you don’t look for it – but are we to assume the vaccines cause everything that we happen not to have looked for?).

* When asked to produce evidence he refers to a paper that doesn’t mention a risk of cancer.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

For obvious reasons new drugs, through trials, must prove they are safe (as well as effective)
The system seems to be corrupt nowadays, where a new experimental drug is assumed safe until proven otherwise, and vested interests will do anything to insure their products are not proven unsafe.

The system is no longer fit for purpose, the ‘independent’ regulators, there to ensure Joe publics safety, is compromised.

brave doctors and scientists, who gain nothing, and are attacked and smeared for airing their concerns and are therefore way more credible than the ”the science” being dictated by the medical establishment and public health bureaucracies – the new cancers in our lives

there’s no money or power for these criminals in healthy immune systems – there has been too much dishonesty and spin for the ‘pandemic’ to have any credibility to anyone with their eyes open

a nasty virus went round in early 2020 and evil saw an opportunity – fear was created in populations and this fear was played on for the benefit of criminals

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

cheap effective and safe treatments were deliberately withheld to allow the emergency use of an experimental and highly profitable new ‘vaccine’ technology – this likely caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people – that is mass murder

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Two brilliant posts

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

“a nasty virus went round in early 2020 and evil saw an opportunity” or perhaps another take might be that it was released and there was no “opportunity “ just action…..

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  debra

I still think it was accidental, but maybe a plan brought forward accidentally – but no proof = speculation

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Liewe
Liewe
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

My first though on watching the video was that he may be picking up cancers missed in 2020 due to lack of medical care.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“It would appear there is no data to support the case that these vaccines might cause cancer”

I would think it’s too soon to say one way or another. When they’ve jabbed everyone they can, how will they tell whether the vaccines do or don’t cause an increase in cancers?

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

risking everything for no gain = conviction

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Dr Ryan Cole is a pathologist – he refers to his own observations to support his suspicions that the experimental, unlicensed jabs are causing inflammation in various organs and he’s deeply concerned about the implications in respect of cancer, etc.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Offered?!?

When did this word be a synonym of coerced into?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Round about the same time that “firmly and absolutely declined/refused” became “hesitant”, and when “safe” and “respect for others” came to mean “illogical and annoying rituals which made no difference to anything”

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Or even bulldozed into

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zners
zners
3 years ago

Will soon be required for all double jabbed

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  zners

Triple jabbed. Qaudruple jabbed. I lose track after octuple….

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple#Names_for_tuples_of_specific_lengths

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Dread-fully quacksinated.
Remember Through the Looking Glass? Having to run like mad to stay where you are?

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chaos
chaos
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

one potato, two potato, three potato.. no eggs.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

“Then all over-50s and under-50s with long-term health problems would be offered the booster vaccine.”

sod-off

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

My thoughts precisely.

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago

Legal challenge? Nuremberg …

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Atters
Atters
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

It’s happening, not that you’ll see it reported anywhere. https://namastepublishing.co.uk/uk-lawyer-anna-de-buisseret-serves-notice-of-criminal-liability-on-uk-covid-vaccinators-under-nuremberg-code/

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

The Regime seems to be getting desperate, judging by the increase in pace on the “vaccination” front.

Why the big rush?

Are too many people noticing awkward facts, like the sudden spikes in cases in Israel and Iceland, two of the most highly vaccinated countries in the world?

Or the increasing number of stories about vaccine side-effects making it into the mainstream media?

Or the growing scale of protests in countries like France?

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Yeah. They’re worried the narrative is losing strength. Everyone now knows someone double vaxxed who got symptomatic Delta.
And Pfizer shareholders rely on the boosters to keep the gold flowing.
It’s just possible that they think the boosters might work…. no. Of course they’re much better aware than us of the risks of a third dose. And then the new variant. If Robert Malone is worried that he can see signals of ADE, what can they, who control the data see?
It’s money, it’s control… for whom? And is it more than that?

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

Mandating booster injections for care home staff is surely also about killing off more of the very vulnerable through insufficient care staff levels due to increased sickness in “triple vaccinated” staff and through carers leaving in droves. And then there’s the direct effects of giving the very elderly and clinically vulnerable a booster injection. This isn’t just about money and control. But I suspect the government will find a way to blame the “vaccine/booster hesitant” for the coming increase in excess mortality.

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  helenf

“Booster hesitant” will soon become a thing.

Meanwhile how much Midozalam are they ordering?

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

And is it more than that?

Yes it is, hence the desperation to stab us all. They can’t leave a group of the unvaxxed that is large enough to exact revenge for the genocide now becoming more obvious with every passing day.

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RTSC
RTSC
3 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

A (former) friend who fully bought into the Covid narrative and celebrated getting her jab (AZ, with horrid adverse reaction) has now got Covid.

Me …. thought it was bollocks from the start; unjabbed; living life as close to normal as possible throughout; back in shops, cafes, pubs etc as soon as they opened ….. absolutely fine.

And STILL a joint friend continually tells me I should get jabbed!

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vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Noted “( former friend)”….. I have a few of these….but not missed. Their mindset is now set in concrete because they never asked ‘why?’. Seeing through this evil charade begins with that.

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ebygum
ebygum
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

ATL News Roundup ‘Concern’ over lack of second jab uptake ahead of winter, says JCVI member’Maybe they are lying about uptake?

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debra
debra
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Or “winter is coming “

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chaos
chaos
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

they have fucked up the timing.. Afghanistan will wreck the timing further…

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Why the big rush?

They don’t want a control group remaining to show up their lies?

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

the whole covid show has been a rollercoaster.

but if you step back and squint….

1 – they have got the whole world shitting themselves over a mild cold (similar to HK or Asian flu in its extent)

2 – the pharma companies have managed to get rid of the testing part of product development

3 – everyone in the world is going to be jabbed several times a year

4 – pharma boom time – until something goes wrong

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

5 – politicians and other elite and powerful groups have more power and are harder to challenge
6 – as well as pharma, lots of opportunities for outsourcing juicy contracts for other futile activity like testing, T&T
7 – big tech are more important than ever in people’s lives

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

It’s a short lived boom time for Pharma: you can’t sell many vaccines when the world population is reduced by 80% or whatever.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Just a bit of a correction – it’s not universally ‘a mild cold’ (although it can be) – and neither were the two genuine ‘flu pandemics that you mention. I know : I copped both.

Over-minimization is just as much a distortion as exaggeration, and doesn’t help the rational cause.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Agreed – it hasn’t been a mild cold in those who have had it badly – by all accounts, it’s been like no cold they’ve ever had before. However, the reaction worldwide has still been irrational (lockdowns, mask-wearing and denying people access to ivermectin, and not promoting Vitamins D and C and zinc as immune boosters, for example).

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

A wise assessment, but some organisations have ‘adjusted’ their guidance re. Vitamin D – even the NHS site. They have doubled the number for daily intake for Vit D supplements at the darker times of the year, and some others – notably in German language ones, it’s been doubled again, so 4 times the older NHS one. It’s true that it’s not been promoted, though. It used to be 5 μg per day, and now it’s 10 or 20 μg per day.

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alw
alw
3 years ago

A yellow fever vaccination lasts for life, the so-called Covid vac does not.

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Jonny S.
Jonny S.
3 years ago
Reply to  alw

Vaccine for life, where’s the profit in that?

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Apache
Apache
3 years ago
Reply to  alw

That is because it is a vaccine not Lem-Sip dressed up as snake oil.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  alw

Real, or conventional vaccines do sometimes have ‘shelf lives’ with recommended ‘top up’ dates – I’ve had a couple of those done in the past with roughly 10 years recommended ‘top up’ dates (Rabies, a Tetanus/Diphtheria/Polio triple). The ‘flu ones don’t last that long though, as ‘flu mutates over time.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

There is no scientific evidence that boosters stop infection and re-transmission.

But this has never been about science, or even about protecting the vulnerable.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

The boosters are also identical to the initial gunk.
No Delta update or the like with them.
I wonder how many know that.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

I had a meeting with a roomful of retired scientists the other day (specialists in human biology).

All thought that the boosters were an updated formula for the newer variants.

They were shocked to discover that they were the original formula. It should be noted that their mistake was understandable — all the inferences over the past months were that the boosters would be an updated formula.

There is no informed consent.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

So, finding the snake oils don’t work against Delta, they are ‘fighting’ Delta with the same snake oils….?

Gimme strength.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Yes – and, as we know, pursuing the same useless strategy despite the evidence, is one definition of ‘insanity’.

Straight jackets for all the cabinet?

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Can’t do the whole cabinet, but I think I have enough for the more dangerous members. (Straitjackets that is).

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Even if they knew it, true Covidians would still be eagerly lining up for the booster, that prevents nothing and will likely kill a great many of them. There is little hope for these people.

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago

Maybe I haven’t been paying sufficient attention to this lying bunch of misfits, but I haven’t seen any evidence or explanation for this “booster” stuff. What will it do (supposedly therapeutically), how, what tests and evaluations i.e. the whole kit and caboodle for this? How safe is it, to mix AZ and Pfizer, which as I understand it, work (or don’t) in different ways. How long does it last (not long, apparently)?

It doesn’t seem to be working terribly well in Israel, and the ill-effects don’t bode well.

Now that Pfizer have jacked up the cost by about £4 a shot, it would also be very interesting to “follow the money”.

Another effing shambles.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

I guess the explanation would be that you need to poke your immune system again to make some more antibodies. No matter that they’ll always be short lived and if you’ve no T cell response, any immunity won’t be long lasting.

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Probably, but the “short-lived” bit is important, as are any deleterious effects like ADE. That the whole thing is cloaked in secrecy, and people are supposed to take the whole thing on trust, from a bunch of inveterate liars and hyperbolists, is enough to treat it as totally undesirable.

On the question of time, as this stuff applies to everybody but especially the young and the pregnant, it is not possible to mimic or bring forward the effects of this stuff as they occur over time; that time being rather longer than mere months. The first “vaccine” was administered to an elderly lady in December, and unless I’m mistaken, there cannot be any woman in England who has been vaccinated and had a full-term pregnancy.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Wow, hopeless, great point.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

No one is poking my immune system! Its working very well so far, despite my advanced years.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

There is data showing that their short-term safety is similar to the earlier vaccines.

There’s (obviously) no medium or longer term safety data.

The only data on efficacy has been gained by looking at the antibody response. This is an amazing bit of negotiation by the pharma industry — they no longer have to prove efficacy, only show that more antibodies are created. This is pretty dumb, but it is where we are.

The immune response to upper respiratory tract infections isn’t centred around antibodies, and the antibodies created will be targeted at variants (original covid) that are now extinct — but that doesn’t appear to interest the authorities.

I am fearful of an increase in allergic response to the vaccines (through sensitisation to PEG) compared with earlier doses.

Beyond that, there should be similar levels of ‘rare’ side effects.

This might be tolerable, but the vaccines won’t provide any significant benefit against Delta and future strains.

There’s also the risk of ADE — the jury is still out on whether boosters will make this worse, or offer a period where the risks are reduced — we’ll find out this winter.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

The immune response to upper respiratory tract infections isn’t centred around antibodies

Does this mean the jabbed are more likely to be asymptomatic spreaders of the hobgoblin?

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Marmalade
Marmalade
3 years ago

I haven’t been vaxxed against covid. So in order to get the booster jab, do I have to have the first two jabs first, or will just the booster do?

If it’s just the booster, then what happens if I wait for the second booster instead? Would I need the first booster before the second one?

If not, then what happens if I wait for the third booster? Or the fourth one?

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

It’s Covid Hokey Cokey. It probably also depends on whether there’s an “r” in the month, or the phases of the moon.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

🙂

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Marmalade

I’d just have a pint of beer instead..

Last edited 3 years ago by RickH
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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Muscle relaxant is always helpful in a crisis, my friend Ford Prefect taught me that.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

What would you do if you needed a COVID pass to buy a towel?

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

When is a pandemic not a pandemic?
Presumably when it’s announced that the disease is now endemic and we have to learn to live with it, as so many of our elite ‘masters’ have now stated.
The emergency authorisations given to the government should not be renewed in September since we are no longer in a ‘crisis’ (not that I believe we ever were), therefore booster shots would not be authorised.
Of course we’re now living down the rabbit hole, through the looking glass and rapidly heading toward the planet zog.

Last edited 3 years ago by Catee
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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Actually – many seem to have landed. 🙂

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Didn’t they change the numbers needed to qualify as a pandemic in order to say COVID was a pandemic?

Anyone got that link BTW?

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MikeAustin
MikeAustin
3 years ago

Now here’s a question. Will boosters be included on the Yellow Card Reports?
The reason that I ask is that the risks are increasing week by week. Although the jab rate is going down, reported death rates remain similar. Overall, 1 in 31,000 jabbees have died following the jab. Week on week, that overall figure varies little because there were so many jabbed earlier in the year. If one looks at the death risk over recent weeks (I take a three week span), it is 1 in 12,313 dying.
What is changing? Younger people are being jabbed and there are proportionately more 2nd jabs. And, of course, these are deaths within a short time of the jab.
If we look at the results from Europe via EudraVigilance, we see the same trend (I can only attach one chart at a time). They total 1 in 25,124 – but the last three week average is 1 in 11,151 dying. These are remarkably similar figures.
I am working on VAERS also, but they are very late with their latest database. The indications are that we are talking about similar death rates.

jab-death-risk-20210813.jpg
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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

I would imagine they would be recorded in yellow card and VAERS as they are for ALL vaccines not just COVID. They might come under a different category, but you could add them together.

How many people die of comparable age group to the vaccinated population in a – for example – 1 week period. Is it lower than 1 in 12,000? Just wondering how this compares to background rate

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Oh, wouldn’t it be great if they reported all of these things by age and other vulnerability.

And the covid cases — they could report them by vaccination status as well.

But they don’t. Because they don’t want any data suggesting that the vaccines might be useless or dangerous.

Plausible deniability is something that politicians understand very well. If the public understood this then they might be called out on it, but the politicians are getting away with it so far.

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MikeAustin
MikeAustin
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Good point Sophie. I pulled the numbers out and even surprised myself!
Assuming that the Yellow Card Reports are related to the jabs, the ‘death risk’ per person is currently 0.008% from my first chart. Now look at the attached.
For all ages under 55, the jab death risk is greater than the average death risk.
We are now jabbing at the lower age groups where the normal average death risk is much, much lower. This group is probably mostly under 25-30.
For all ages under 30, the jab death risk is 10x the normal death risk!
I was even staggered by this myself!
Bear in mind also that they are being jabbed against covid19 where the death risks are minimal. Deaths due too other causes are not going to be affected by the jab anyway. This means that the deadly effect of the jab is even greater than I have shown here!

weekly-deaths-by-age.jpg
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PartyTime
PartyTime
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

The post-stab death risk is presumably also not evenly distributed across age groups, though?

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MikeAustin
MikeAustin
3 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

It is surprisingly consistent. I would not have expected it. Here is a chart of deaths against 1st jabs (which represents total people). From 35 million jabs (beginning of May onwards), the death rate is constant, even though the ages reduce.
I think what is missing from these Yellow Card Reports is deaths in the care homes which peaked mid-January with the jab roll-out. I have a strong suspicion that about 20,000 elderly folk were wiped out from mid-January until the end of February. The weekly deaths correlates scarily with the jab roll-out.

jab-adverse-persons-20210806a.jpg
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PartyTime
PartyTime
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Neat, thanks for the explanation

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Especially worrying when the under-reporting aspect of these schemes is taken into account!

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

That is a very worrying trend. 1 in less than 12,000 deaths in a record that is at least 90% unrepresented, its possibly getting close to 1 in 1,000 in reality.
No wonder they pushing as fast as they can before these numbers just get too scary to hide.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Jeremy Vine responded to the truth bomb caller that Yellow Card data isn’t a result of the jabs because there is no evidence of a link.
No evidence because they are refusing to investigate the cases or perform autopsies on the victims.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

They should be reported the booster side effect data separately — there’s a theoretical increased risk of allergic response due to sensitisation to PEG from earlier doses.

But they won’t do this, and will instead lump them the responses will the earlier data.

This is a big mistake, but in a land of huge mistakes probably isn’t a big deal.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Deliberate. Not mistakes.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Added to which the flu jab season is arriving soon and that will probably add more problems to the mix.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

great work – look forward to updates 🙂

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Great work Mark, thanks.
All the actual journalism seems to happen below the line these days…

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Yes, citizen journalism has taken over.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

^Mike, not Mark
apologies.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

Attn: @Will Jones
Any chance you could cover this in an article above the line?

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MikeAustin
MikeAustin
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeAustin

I would just like to make a clarification here.
What I am focussing on is the number of people jabbed – represented by 1st jabs – as opposed to total jabs. As the rate of 1st jabs reduces, deaths from either jab are being compared with the number of 1st jabs. It could be pessimistic. However, death per jab is not a measure of risk for the individual. And we are not informed as to which jab was followed by a fatality. So the actual risk is somewhere in between. If, for example, all deaths are at the 2nd dose, then the death risk is twice the risk per jab – i.e. 0.0017%*2 = 0.0034% versus the 0.008% on the last chart values.
We are thus somewhere between 0.0034% and 0.008%, or 1 in 29,400 and 1 in 12,313.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

They cannot mandate this or the jab for travelling.
They will always have to offer a testing option instead.
What they are saying is that only a booster gives you an up to date valid vaxx pass, which you can then use for your travelling.
What they forget to say is that if you self-exempt from the gunk in the first place, you will when the digital solution is finally available, likely have a valid vaxx pass for life, without the need for any boosters ever and giving you the same rights as any boosted vaxxed person has, but for life.

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago

So we are all like government pets crossing borders.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Note how the official narrative takes it for granted that domestic vaccine passports will be introduced and the discussion has moved on to debate whether or not the booster will be included. SPI-B at its best.

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Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
3 years ago

I had a bit of a weekend of it, boozing with an old mate of mine. I have to say that in a weekend of heaving pubs, a train to and from Brum, a couple of bus journeys and cab rides, no-one at any time mentioned masks or jabs to me. None of the black cab drivers were masked, and the face rag wearing rate on public transport was probably under 50%.

There’s something incongruous about the way people are behaving in real life as opposed to the continual manufactured crisis of the media and the zero rona fanatics.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
3 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Desperation. Perhaps it’s all about to hit the fan. Maybe.

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Occams Pangolin Pie
Occams Pangolin Pie
3 years ago

Bent government, scared and/or corrupt scientists. Social pressure, blackmail, jab for job bollocks.

The truth is that there is a WHIFF OF DESPERATION in the air combining with the stench of unscientific BS.

See Iceland and Israel to discern the glaringly obvious: the jabs do not work and seem to be making things worse. You can still get it – and you can still pass it on. Err?

By the logic of Javid and the honourable body, the JCVI, the Booster must be designed to help you contract IT and pass it on? What could be more ideal in a care home? More deaths, more homicides? The Whitty Protocol on steroids.

Bring back Matt Hancock! (Joke)

Just say no to this hideous poison.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Occams Pangolin Pie

Solving the pensions funding problem, and leaving nice pots to loot and redistribute to the rich in inheritance tax.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Reminds me of one of the old “Yes, Minister” episodes in which the Permanent Sec recommended smoking, as it reduces life expectancy, less pension to pay, saves the NHS money, and brings in cash via tobacco duty up front.

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Paul M
Paul M
3 years ago

We have entered the gates of hell. There’s no end to this – hardly any major legal challenges. Govts are getting away with doing whatever they want. MPS and opposition parties are useless

Me and wife are in a difficult position as daughter gets married end october, and there’s every chance Johnson and his cabal will stop us going to the wedding unless jabbed. No more foreign hols either.

I really do want to see justice served on those responsible for this

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KidFury
KidFury
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul M

there are no restrictions in leaving the country, it depends on the destination. Where are you off to? To leave, all you need is a negative test, which you need whether you are jabbed or not.

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damoler
damoler
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Do you need a negative test to leave, or does it depend on your destination? Spain has no entry requirements, last time I checked, so I assumed the only difficulty was coming back here from there.

On a similar note, does anyone have any experience getting around hospitals’ demands for outpatients to take covid tests? I finally have an appointment coming up for a procedure I’ve been waiting for for 10 months, but am now told that I have to first take a covid test and then isolate for four days before the appointment!

I no longer have any symptoms (and assume I would be dead by now if it was anything serious!), but would still like to attend the appointment to get checked how, but I don’t want to undergo the dreaded swabbing. What happens if I refuse this test? Are they going to deny me treatment?

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vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  damoler

They cannot force you to have it…claim exemption if needs be. Tell them if they refuse you the appointment you want them to put on record why..it contravenes the Equality Act 2010. This is all about bullying and making people submit…you have Rights. They cannot dismiss them.

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damoler
damoler
3 years ago
Reply to  vivaldi

Thanks for the advice, @vivaldi. I will have never have the jabs and don’t want the invasive, unnecessary test either.

Last edited 3 years ago by damoler
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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

To travel from Finland to the UK you have to pay around £200 for a PCR test within 72 hours of getting on a plane. So you have to try and match up a test time with your plane’s departure time. Where are you supposed to hang around whilst waiting for your test results which take 24-48 hours? And what do you do if they are ‘positive’?
And on arrival in the UK, assuming you are ‘fully jabbed’, you still can’t get in without having to stump up for another PCR test so that Boris’s mates running the test companies can have their backhanders.

Last edited 3 years ago by Emerald Fox
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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul M

Is her wedding abroad? If it’s in this country, how will anyone know if you’ve been jabbed or not? Vaccine passports aren’t yet mandatory – and I doubt they will be by October.

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Paul M
Paul M
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Its in England. Trouble is Johnson is so unstable and unpredictable I’d not be surprised if he rammed it through on 1st Oct to teach the young a lesson – he warned them last month. France and Ireland have done it

We have Spain booked for next summer, I’m betting that won’t happen either once Covid-21 is released

I utterly despise this govt and the weak opposition. I really hope justice comes to these people, but it will be too late for many

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul M

Even if he changes his mind, I don’t believe that there is sufficient organisation to ensure everyone has one in the space of 2 months (and there will be legal challenges to contend with in the meantime). They’ll also be a thriving market in fake ones if they come to pass!

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Gregoryno6
Gregoryno6
3 years ago

Once you go vac, you’ll never come back.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Yes that’s is correct – when will people learn? When there was no massive walk out the government had them exactly where they wanted them.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

How is the government going to compensate them if they are injured?

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

If at all, with funny money.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

The government isn’t. It doesn’t have any money of its own. Current and future taxpayers will compensate them.

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Zoomer@14
Zoomer@14
3 years ago

With super inflation coming along…invest your money in Big Pharma. You will make a killing…literally, by ‘boosting your savings…!

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FarligGods
FarligGods
3 years ago
Reply to  Zoomer@14

Yup, that’s exactly what it’s all aboot.. Fiat currency governments have been printing money like mad with nothing to back it up. Their economies are fcuked and they are broke. Hyperinflation is about to commence and the only way to “solve” it is to devalue their currencies or invent a new one. The new currency will be digital, but to have control, they need digital ID’s to control and follow the money. To have digital ID’s they need vaccine passports. To have vaccine passports they need a disease and hey presto we have convid 19. Nothing whatsoever about this is anything to do with a flu / cold bug, it’s been planned or hijacked and the plan brought forward.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
3 years ago

I walked out of a shift last week before I even started probably my last it’s over!.I informed the Nurse that I won’t take no bs lateral flow test etc She was extremely passive and unresponsive.Today at Cribbs Shopping centre the Majority remain muzzled!.I decided to test my theory of mass Hypnosis.Throughout I commented on certain passing folk making audible remarks about their masks etc sheep noises,passing hurtful comments…No response something is very wrong.I was hoping for some kind of confrontation nothing is it Mass Hypnosis, Psychosis,Predictive Programming, Cognitive Dissonance,Gross stupidity or Virtue signalling.Im making those Zombies aware I’m not be to fucked with because I see violence coming I’m no stranger to it wish I was younger though!

Last edited 3 years ago by Teddy Edward
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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

I decided to test my theory of mass Hypnosis.Throughout I commented on certain passing folk making audible remarks about their masks etc sheep noises,passing hurtful comments…No response….

I have noticed that too. Every glare, tut, comment made from me to these zombies are met with a blank stare. Often their gaze is one of confusion.

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davews
davews
3 years ago

A lot of confusion. I confess to having had my two jabs, and at the moment have not needed to do a yellow card report. They are saying boosters starting September, being over 70 I fit into their first batch sadly. Then they suggest booster six months after second jab, which on the face of it seems sensible. That would mean I would not be approached for one until November. I see no point in it, never felt fitter during this pandemic, and already have a printed letter with no expiry date confirming my jabs. Will they be saying that letter becomes invalid?

I only had the jabs because at my age according to the ‘rules’ I am marginally in the vulnerable age range. I did not want it but succumbed.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
3 years ago
Reply to  davews

This whole vax pass thing is now so serious and complex that it should be formally discussed in Parliament and subject to a Statutory procedure so that we can all see the precise requirements, the criteria and can see and challenge our NHS records on which so much now depends. As it is the NHS just decides who is in and who is out? by a criteria they set and subject to records they keep, all on a rather arbitrary basis. This all needs Parliamentary discussion, including the consideration of exemptions on medical, ethical and religious grounds.

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vlysander
vlysander
3 years ago

Insanity reigns. UK gov and other G7 and western govs all around the world have ordered “boosters” well into 2024.
This is well known released information so people must know that means they will be expected to keep taking them? For that all important “vaccine passport” “medical ID” “digital ID”.

Last edited 3 years ago by vlysander
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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

Once you jump onboard the Covid train there’s no getting off!

Choo Choo !!!!!

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Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
3 years ago

Well well that video by the Dr has got me thinking. The Delta scariant is actually covid caused by the vaccinated!! I reviewed the timing of its appearance at the party – interesting!

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago

And so the thumbscrews tighten. It’s only for three weeks to flatten the curve……How easy it was to take the people’s liberty. How ignorant and weak the people have proven to be.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

Something is seriously wrong. The inoculations simply don’t work. I now know more people with Covid than I ever knew a year ago. They are all double jabbed. I also know at least two injured people post inoculation. Two with serious heart complaints and one with an abnormal lung ct scan.

And now, boosters being made mandatory for care workers? I get it. The first two didn’t kill or maim you, so we are going to have another go.

Age 70, I declined. Wake up every morning grateful I did so💕💕💕

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

This is subject to parliamentary approval. Surely we can rely on our MPs to stand up for personal liberty and face down this authoritarian government? Surely Her Majesty’s Opposition, led by a human rights lawyer, will oppose?

Or am I being ridiculous?

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FarligGods
FarligGods
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Yep, you’re being ridiculous, sorry…

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wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

There are no Published data on trials. Pfizer gave press release to say it is effective and safe -???
How can the world stop this Covid -sine qua non- madness. – bet the people of Haiti wished they had had a third vaccination?

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago

just keep shoving it in there boys

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chaos
chaos
3 years ago

care workers are thin end of wedge..

the wedge widens quickly.. care home contractors, visitors, delivery staff…

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Zoomer@14
Zoomer@14
3 years ago

Yep…boost Big Pharma’s profit margins…is anyone awake yet?

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QuickDrawMcGraw
QuickDrawMcGraw
3 years ago

Most carers are underpaid and overworked. Most of them I’ve come across are really wonderful human beings. They should all band together and go on strike! I bet if they did, all this mandatory jab bullshit would go away. They probably wouldn’t though because they care too much about the people they look after. This fucking fascist bullshit has to end now!!!

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago

The bit I don’t understand is that, if all the bullied staff refused the jabs, the care home system would simply collapse. Don’t they realise this?

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Stephensceptic
Stephensceptic
3 years ago

If I understand correctly: over time the new style vaccine seems to lose efficacy against illness. It also appears that it does not prevent spread of infection.

Neither of these points were understood at the start of the roll out. So it really was a leap into the dark.

Countries with low vaccination stats seem to have had similar declines in Covid as countries with high rates. Although I have not seen a systematic analysis of that. It would surely be interesting.

To justify what has been done PHE has then created estimates of 84k lives saved. But these are based on a modeled prediction of what would have happened without vaccines. That is a counter factual. So the estimates of lives saved are just conjecture for politicians to quote.

Rather than stepping back and wondering whether they ought to think again, our deeply useless governments now double down on boosters as the “answer” to falling efficacy. They are in so deep on vaccines that they can hardly act in any other way.

I increasingly sense that the whole vaccine thing will end in tears. Just feels it is going that way. New ideas such as boosters are being made up on the fly. That rarely ends well. The only question is how much damage is done before this is clear enough for everyone.

If we had done zero against Covid I actually feel that overall mortality would be lower than the outcome from all this panic driven human activity. Bit like intervention in Afghanistan and trying to prevent climate change.

There is something deeply hubristic about our civilisation. It is ill.

Last edited 3 years ago by Stephensceptic
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