By now we are all painfully aware of the demonic glee with which a disturbingly large segment of the population greets any new death of a person they don’t like.
But the very sad news about Rod Liddle seems to have brought out another variation on this theme, or perhaps a change in emphasis, along with some signs that an increasing number of people are sick of this morbid trend.
There is a fundamental divide here between what I will call ‘normal people’ — i.e., those who see death as the moment to emphasise a person’s good qualities and leave out their inevitable flaws — and those horrible bot-like beings for whom someone’s death is the ideal opportunity to demonstrate conformity to the prevailing ideology, strangely by indulging in an orgy of hatred that they have convinced themselves is somehow appropriate and merited.
What became clear following the death of Rod Liddle — and this is what I mean by a change in emphasis — was the mindless degree to which people appeared to be arbitrarily looking for the handful of items they could use to justify their feral outbursts of rage.
It’s as if, upon hearing of this latest death, they leapt up to access some file of alleged transgressions that they could tick off in order to avoid the complex demands of being human.
In Liddle’s case, this meant the headlines of a few articles they almost certainly hadn’t read or understood. These were enough to call him every word under the sun, and repeatedly state how glad they were that he had died. One account replied to absolutely every post about Liddle with these sentiments, to the point where I had to stop scrolling — there was simply too much. Naturally, it was a Scouser.
I include that last line as the exact kind of thing these humourless cretins would use as proof that a person should be entirely banished from society.
As I say, the key difference between our traditional approach and this new breed of hysterical death detectives is that while we look for the good at this moment of sorrow and mourning, they immediately seek out the bad. From a standpoint of traditional morality, it’s hard to see what they’re doing as anything other than evil, and that indeed is my position.
If I had to try to steel man the Devil, I suppose I’d say that to their hivemind, anyone setting back ‘progress’ towards their utopia is inherently doing something bad, so any attack on them becomes a kind of good.
That’s my best attempt, though I admit it’s hard to fairly represent such a vaccuous worldview. Utopianism is always stupid, and this lot don’t even have cool uniforms.
Some attacks even came from those broadly on ‘our side’, such as Bev Turner, who, linking to an article where Liddle comments on so-called anti-vaxxers, said: “I used to love Rod Liddle. He was always in on the joke. Then he said this about people who had done their own research and I realised he wasn’t what I had thought.”
It should be obvious that this kind of thing is not appropriate upon someone’s death. I personally despised Bev’s ill-informed and extremely radical pro-abortion rant on GB News, but if anything happened to her there would be zero chance of me tweeting about it. In fact I’ve never mentioned it before, and only bring it up now to make my point.
The standard ‘I didn’t agree with everything X said BUT’ is comically redundant in the case of Liddle. I doubt there is a soul on earth who agreed with everything he said. The free-thinking nature this implies is one of the things Liddle has been most praised for, along with his personal kindness and integrity.
This is how it should be. Seeking the good sometimes means praising one side of the same coin. In this case, it’s clear that free-thinking will almost certainly entail occasional or even frequent disagreement. Thus it is not necessary to bring up the latter at the moment of someone’s passing, and in doing so you creep into territory occupied by the ideologues whose primary value, if we can even call it that, is adherence to doctrine.
To be generous, there has been immense pressure on people in recent years to behave like ideological robots. This has somehow become the high status position, to the point that traducing someone upon their death is seen by many as not just ‘a bit off’, but actually the morally superior path. Hence the wild, unencumbered alacrity to do just this that we see from so many NPCs of the current cult.
But, as I hinted at the beginning, there are mildly encouraging signs that many are getting tired of pretending humans can be expected to meet some protean and frequently absurd ideological standard, and that they should be forever judged according to these grim criteria.
See, for instance, Jeremy Vine’s excellent tribute to Liddle. Though a reply stating “I’m surprised at you for posting this Jeremy. What was your view on the article he wrote saying he wanted to string piano wire across roads to decapitate cyclists?” is a perfect example of the humourless puritanism of the new Bots.
Vine’s reply to this is a succinct expression of the old morality some of us still uphold: “He overstated everything for effect. I’m really sad he’s left us. He was so talented and funny. Like many people he also made mistakes. I don’t want to focus on them today.”
I don’t want to focus on them today. This used to be the standard view, but now needs to be spelled out for the apparently endless stream of nasty morons on social media.
Rosie Duffield, Kathleen Stock and Julie Bindel also paid tribute. Duffield then met with the inevitable tide of idiocy, to the point where she added a second post stating: “It is not my job to like the same people as you, or come to the exact same conclusions about people simply because of the threat of potentially offending you by liking someone you’ve decided is a *bad person*.”
Perhaps all these staunch defences are just a result of the number of friends Liddle had in politics and media. But it does appear to me that more and more people are growing weary of being constantly berated by the Borg-like proponents of political correctness.
Although some in the Terfosphere(?) may have their limits on who they would defend, it might be that here we see the real divide in the culture war. On one side are those who retain a traditional and very British conception of decency, flexibility, humour, and an empathetic acknowledgement of what it is to be human.
On the other are the puritans who pretend to be perfect robots, and strangely express this, for reasons discussed, through the medium of being as overtly vile as possible, at the least appropriate possible moment.
Naturally the motto of these people is ‘Be Kind’. Yet if we do the exact opposite to them in every single instance, we will be much closer to that difficult yet noble aspiration.
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I suppose that, once folk got used to blurting out their online insults, like Tourette’s sufferers who despise everybody else, this awful ‘glad he/she’s dead’ shtick was bound to emerge. Hiding behind ‘Be Kind’ placards, as if the meaning of words had been filtered through Humpty Dumpty.
I’m surrounded by people who insist that Trump is poisonous (as opposed to merely narcissistic) while having had nothing to say during Biden’s four years of mismanagement and (actual) falling down on the job.
I believe that the original piano wire article was by Matthew Parris in The Times in 2007. It caused a furore at the time and certainly changed my view of Parris; I always suspected Parris had a spiteful streak. If I had read the article by Rod Liddle I would probably have taken it in the spirit in which it was intended. Haven’t come across any piano wire yet in more than 50 years of cycling but encountered lots of arseholes and, fortunately, many more thoughtful motorists – but I don’t ride in London.
R.I.P. Rod Liddle one of the funniest writers he always made me smile even when I sometimes didn’t agree with what he wrote.
Fair play to Jeremy Vine.
Why does it feel like the truth tellers are being snuffed out, one by one?
Do you not think that it is the fear of themselves being cancelled that is the driving force of the content of those comments which are conditional in nature.
A new institution of the 1984 Civil Service – The Ministry of Kindness.
Which specialises in cruelty.
Most of them are simply trolling the right, and the right responds, by writing articles about it or whinging online. Same pattern, every time. It’s a ritual.
Better to let them expose who they are.
The left does not understand hyperbole or sarcasm and they seem proud of their ignorance.
He had a form of socialism in his being throughout but I still appreciated his opinions which on many cases I could agree with or at least empathise.
isn’t that normal it used to be.
RIP. We cannot live in peace anymore.
DS is surely a form of social media?
Absolutely.
I don’t think it is a form of social media, in which people need to create their own personal platforms or create video content and gain hundreds or thousands of “Followers”. The Daily Sceptic is a news publication, like the older traditional newspapers such as The Daily Mail, The Daily Telegraph, The Times, The Grauniad, Independent & others, some of which allow the ordinary members of the public to offer comments on their news articles.
That’s not the same as setting up your own Facebook or X page, presenting your own views, videos and materials for OTHERS to comment on, and gaining lots of Followers.
Here’s what “X” says:
“What is X?
X is a service for friends, family, and coworkers to communicate and stay connected through the exchange of quick, frequent messages. People post posts, which may contain photos, videos, links, and text. These messages are posted to your profile, sent to your followers, and are searchable on X search. ”
The Daily Sceptic, and other more traditional newspaper-type websites presenting news articles which allow public comments below them, operate as a team of staff and contributors, which is not the same as personal, individual social media websites set up by one person to exchange quick messages with friends & family.
It is indeed a news medium: news, comment pieces and reader’s opinions below the line which are not dissimilar to a newspaper’s letters page.
Exactly!
I shall miss Rod Liddle’s articles, which were my first choice of reading. He was usually spot on in his critical and funny way but he was taken in by the covid vaccination episode and made his view clear that boosters were needed. His friend of 40 years paid tribute and let it be known that Rod was in hospital for an operation and he thought that it had successfully “got it all out”. Then he died. This seems to be becoming a frequent story when a youngish person passes after a short illness.
That picture is soo Johnny Cash
The 20th century showed us that Utopian ideologies tend to end up with mountains of corpses.
What happened to the saying my mum used to use?
“If you haven’t got anything nice to say don’t say anything”.
Vine’s response to his criticism is spot on is perfect, and it’s not often I agree with him.
Personally I think it would be fine for someone who often disagreed with someone who’s just passed away to say some like “I often disagreed with what they said but their arguments were always well made and contributed to sensible discussion of complex issues”
The Marxists did the same when Margaret Thatcher passed away, and when Ann Widdecombe was murdered, and when Tommy Robinson was attacked so many times. It’s what they do.
Personally, I will rejoice when the Parasitic Worm called “Satan” is annihilated, that justice shall be done.
And I won’t be saying anything “nice” about Satan, or about all of Satan’s Followers like the Rwandan Welsh Choirboy, or the Demonic Filth who dragged PC Harper to his death and laughed about it, or the Envious Female IRA Filth who kidnapped and murdered the innocent widowed mother of ten children, Mrs. Jean McConville.
I don’t do social media. One of the reasons is that for the life of me I can’t imagine why anybody else in the whole wide world should give a monkey’s about my opinions of X, or Y, who has recently died, and who I never met. To post them at all is surely narcissism.
Even more narcissistic, in fact, than commenting BTL on an online article.
Codswallop!!! I don’t do social media, either, because I don’t want to read people discussing what they had for breakfast, or how long it took them to get to work because of traffic jams, or all the minutiae of their daily lives, which is no business of strangers, in my view, unless it is part of an interesting article on some important topic.
But it’s very important to me to be able to read what ordinary people say about current events and historical subjects, because ordinary people often have nuggets of wisdom and useful information to pass on, including commenters on the much-maligned Daily Mail articles.
We all learn from each other every day, and that has nothing whatsoever to do with “narcissism”, which is people endlessly posing and taking selfies to gain thousands of “followers”, or insisting upon being leader of a political party in a country to which you have no ancestral connection at all, such as Nigeria. That is narcissism, and a Bloated Sense of Entitlement, which the entire Third World claim upon the West.
What, in your view, makes people who post comments BTL here, or anywhere else, ‘ordinary’? Well, in one sense they clearly are but they’re only as ordinary as people who tell others what they had for breakfast or those who don’t comment on online articles. As for comments on historical subjects, oddly enough I know a great deal more about some historical subjects than most but the more I learn the more conscious I am of how much I don’t know. Meanwhile, coming across popular opinions of those I do know a lot about I’m frequently reminded of Ernest Renan’s observation: ‘Getting its history wrong is part of being a nation.’
Well, I had never heard of this Ernest Renan you admire, so I looked him up just now, and found this startling quote from him:
“Renan wrote the following about the long history of persecution of Jews:
When all nations and all ages have persecuted you, there must be some motive behind it all. The Jew, up to our own time, insinuated himself everywhere, claiming the protection of the common law; but, in reality, remaining outside the common law. He retained his own status; he wished to have the same guarantees as everyone else, and, over and above that, his own exceptions and special laws. He desired the advantages of the nations without being a nation, without helping to bear the burdens of the nations. No people has ever been able to tolerate this. The nations are military creations founded and maintained by the sword; they are the work of peasants and soldiers; towards establishing them the Jews have contributed nothing. Herein is the great fallacy inspired in Israelite pretensions. The tolerated alien can be useful to a country, but only on condition that the country does not allow itself to be invaded by him. It is not fair to… Read more »
The startling thing about Renan’s words are that, even though he wrote them in the 19th century aimed at one particular ethnic and religious group, merely by changing a few words now they could be equally applied to every type of Third World Ethnic and Religious immigrant to the West. It’s not a question of “hating” this or that group. It’s a question of Survival.
I am struck by the sentence “nations are military creations founded and maintained by the sword” which is what was happening in 19th century as empires such as the Austro-Hungarian one was pulled about/apart and Italy and Germany came into being as modern countries, plus the slow disintegration of the Ottoman Empire.
Yes, I was also astonished by those words about nations, including this: “they are the work of peasants and soldiers…”
You made a good point about the political situation in Europe at the time Renan wrote it, which I hadn’t thought about.
Apart from his observation about national histories – which seems to me to be thoroughly sound – I will confess to having come across anything else that Renan wrote. So he was a, not untypical, nineteenth century anti-semite was he? Thanks for drawing that to my attention.
I’m glad you mentioned Renan, inspiring me to look him up, because he had some extraordinarily honest views. I don’t believe in “anti-semitism” as some kind of special “thought crime”, because, as you point out, most people in Western societies held those views, which would now be called “xenophobic”, which merely describe humanity’s natural survival instinct.
What is remarkable is that everything he said in that quote could be equally applied to all Third World immigrants to the West, which wasn’t a problem in the 19th century, and yet threatens our very existence now.
It would seem that Mr Renan had never heard of Alfred Dreyfus, who, even after being wrongly condemned, imprisoned and impugned, managed to fight on the French side during WWI.
Perhaps he was merely the exception that proves the rule?
Nonetheless, it seem you find it as therapeutic as the rest of us (or, if you are yourself a therapist, fertile ground for enriching your knowledge on Personality Disorders, grouped in three clusters – worth looking it up in search of “knowing thyself”).
I’m certainly not a therapist but yes, I find it curiously therapeutic from time to time. But I’m probably happier, on balance, when I draw back thinking: ‘Why on earth bother?’
For me it’s part therapy but also clarifying my own thinking, trying to understand others, rehearsing arguments.
Certainly, trying to work out and express – cogently and economically – just what one thinks about an issue is a positive. Agree with you there.
Exactly and considering various points of view.
You don’t “do social media”. Do you “do MSM”. Thank god for social media. It is not mandatory reading, there is as much misinformation included just like msm, but there is so much more freedom of expression. I for one am grateful for freedom of expression.