Rupert Lowe Sets Out Five Conditions for Working With Nigel Farage

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Rupert Lowe has set out five conditions under which he could work with Nigel Farage, including restoring Britain’s borders, reversing the “Islamification” of Britain and holding a referendum on the death penalty. The Express has the story:

The first thing that must be agreed upon in order for the two parties to work together, he said, is “restoring our borders”.

Mr Lowe said: “Ending mass immigration is not enough. The hour is just too late for that. It must be reversed.” …

Secondly, the parties must agree to restore Britain’s “demographic security”, suggesting that white Britons will become a minority later this century.

Mr Lowe said: “Restore Britain has committed to reversing the Islamification of Britain, and that will not change.” …

Thirdly, he said that the two men must agree to a referendum on restoring the death penalty.

Fourthly, “restoring a self-sufficient Britain” by cutting welfare costs in order to make sure the country can defend, feed and power itself while bringing inflation “under control”.

Finally, the two parties must “restoring the country’s faith in politics”, said Mr Lowe.

Former Conservative ministers must not be part of any future Cabinet, he demanded.

Worth reading in full.

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Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago

Rupert Lowe’s video was deeply impressive and statesmanlike, embodying what the world thinks of as a British Prime Minister.

Nigel and his cohorts responded by belittling him, as usual, showing their true colours.

I do hope that Rupert Lowe never does any deals with the Defunct Tory Party, now deservedly staggering along on its last legs, whose candidate polled 5000 fewer votes than Restore Britain in the Manchester mayoral election.

RTSC
RTSC
1 month ago

If you genuinely want to reach an agreement to unite the right, you don’t start out by making 5 non-negotiable demands …. knowing full well that at least one of them (and probably more) are going to be unacceptable.

You COULD set out 5 non-negotiable items for the Agenda – but they have to be debated and agreed.

This was a PR stunt by Lowe, not a serious attempt to reach a rapprochement.

He has, apparently, had a falling out with the CONs so is scrabbling to retain position. I wonder if that was a consequence of Restore knocking the CONs into 5th place in the Manchester Mayoral contest thus demonstrating that all the bollocks about the Tories reviving under Badenough is just that …. bollocks.

Curio
Curio
1 month ago
Reply to  RTSC

5? Mr Lowe also wanted “a ban on halal and kosher meat as one of his core conditions for a political partnership”. Did he really think that Zia and Loila would be prepared to betray the Prophet to please him?

shred
shred
1 month ago
Reply to  Curio

It’s possible to have halal meat but with stunning, as with NZ lamb. I doubt whether most Moslems or Jews would be too upset if the UK followed European countries banned the primitive practice.

Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago
Reply to  Curio

They can eat FROZEN MEAT imported from other countries where such barbaric practices are allowed.

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
1 month ago

Never trust Rupert Lowe. He shafted Southampton FC. He was elected under a Reform banner and did what he always does…..scarpers.

Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago
Reply to  Covid-1984

No, he didn’t shaft Southampton FC.

Rupert Lowe’s Impact on Football

Myra
Myra
1 month ago

I simply don’t know what to make of all of this. My political leaning is centre-right, with a desire for a very small State.
Initially I supported Reform, but then they took in some below par Conservatives (Nadine Dorris, Zahawi to name a few), and seemed to water down their policies. But maybe that is what you need to do to win? But would that mean another consensus Tory 2.0?
Then Reform appeared to treat Lowe in quite an appalling way. Even if they wanted him out of the party for whatever reason, the manner in which they did it, did not sit well with me.
So now Restore. I like some of their policies (Net Zero, Economy) and they seem to have helped shift the Overton window. It is difficult to gauge what their ultimate vote % would be.
A pact between Restore and Reform does make sense, else we are back to tactical voting?

VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
1 month ago
Reply to  Myra

I agree. I was a staunch Reform advocate until the veil started to slip. Nigel can talk the talk- very convincingly- but I no longer believe he can walk the walk.
Rupert and Restore may be our last hope of reclaiming this once proud nation. A nation whose traditions and achievements are still remembered, at least by a few, on one day every year. That date would be November 11th.
Does that make me a jingoist? Possibly in the eyes of some. But hey… I don’t care.

For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
1 month ago

Condition 2 sounds dangerously like white supremacist rhetoric./

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 month ago

“Condition 2 sounds …”

That’s absolutely fine.

Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago

Well now, Roubles, how many Ethnic Africans or Ethnic Indian Subcontinentals have been given top posts in the government of Russia?

So would you say that Russians are “dangerous white supremacists”?

Or are they just normal, preferring their own Ethnic European = White Russian Slavic People? It’s called “Tribalism”, which helped mankind survive for thousands of years. What’s wrong with that?

Clive
Clive
1 month ago

Anyone who genuinely and sincerely wanted what Lowe is suggesting, would have contacted Farage privately, not done a 12 minute video deliberately putting Farage on the spot.

Laughable.

NeilParkin
NeilParkin
2 months ago

I find it increasingly difficult to understand how people are taken in by Rupert’s antics. He suffers from the same narcissistic presumption as Prince Harry. I’m nobody, and I’m out in the cold, but if you do this, this, this, this and this, then I’ll let you join my gang. As someone said yesterday, Rupert wants to share the Reform pie, but he isn’t bringing any custard, just a spoon. No, no and hell no.

CircusSpot
CircusSpot
1 month ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Rupert is too fond of the sauce to be trustworthy and would undo all RUK’s hard work in moments.

Just Stop it Now
Just Stop it Now
1 month ago
Reply to  CircusSpot

Source for the sauce allegation – genuine question

JXB
JXB
2 months ago

It wasn’t an offer, it was an ultimatum. It was a demand that Nigel Farage, de facto, hand over control and leadership of Reform UK to him, with the unspoken threat, “or else” he will carry on queering Reform’s pitch in elections hampering Reform’s chances of governing.

That’s what he wants – a reverse take-over. He knows Restore Britain is a fringe bunch of malcontents with no prospect of Government or even gaining much of a presence in Parliament. His only chance at power and glory is as leader of Reform UK.

He always wanted control of Reform UK, which is why Farage booted him out.

Farage has not said “no”, which some commentators take as meaning he is open to making a deal. Of course he didn’t say no, otherwise Lowe immediately would have spun that as Farage putting ego before Country, making Lowe look like the decent bloke trying to do the right thing.

Pass the humbugs mother.

EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 months ago

Rather impertinent, don’t you think. Restore came 4th in Manchester while Reform came 2nd. It is the same everywhere despite the Tory adjacent comments which try to big-up Restore and Badenock while decrying Farage and Reform.

Shame DS chose a particularly disobliging photo of Farage to contrast with the beaming Lowe – surely not disclosing party allegience eh, Toby.

Whomakesthisstuffup
Whomakesthisstuffup
2 months ago

My starter for negotiations-
Play by the rules
Be part of our society
Look after you and yours, work if you can, if you truly can’t then we have a safety net (but it is not a lifestyle choice)
English is the native language of our country – learn it!
We have laws, we don’t need yours as well
Pay your taxes, it’s part of the deal!
We (supposedly) have free speech, we’re allowed our own thoughts and views, you can take offence, that’s your right, but you can’t suppress someone else’s views
You can apply to live here, but if you just “arrive”, then you can’t expect to stay!
POLITE NOTICE – the UK is currently at capacity, please re-apply later

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 month ago

No benefits for immigrants, legal or illegal must be a starting point. No accommodation and no tent cities. Where are they to go ?

I C G A F !

chas cowie
chas cowie
1 month ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

That was the position when I immigrated here with a visa over 20 years ago.

VAX FREE IanC
VAX FREE IanC
1 month ago

Yep. That about sums it up. We’re too far into the pigpen to be pussyfooting around now. That time has passed. Mr Lowe knows it and isn’t afraid to say it – We desperately need a National Reboot. No one else appears to have the cojones for it. Good luck Rupert, you’re going to need it, I’m afraid.

ChrisA
ChrisA
2 months ago

Lowe was a member of the Conservative party….. He’s also worth £30 million. He is a member of the ruling elite. He claimed he was doing it for the country, but he’s got no chance (might get 4 to 5% of the vote) and no interest in working with those who do, and his ego seems to take center stage as much as any other politician.

transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 months ago

When will Badenoch be setting out her red lines?

EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 months ago

Just after her left wing tells her where they are!

Mrs.Croc
Mrs.Croc
2 months ago

I can’t believe he’s said that. There should be no conditions on meaningful negotiations. They should be brought out during and either settled or not as the case may be. As for not allowing anyone who was once in the Conservative Party to be in a future government; that’s just crazy.
So much for bury the past and work together. It seems that is only possible if things are done Rupert’s way. And he thinks Nigel is a narcissist!
now I know why they fell out. You can’t have two queens in a hive.
This sort of rubbish has put me right off restore.
the mistake Rupert makes is that most people don’t mind other cultures making their home here, if they do it legally and keep the rules of the country and integrate into British life.
what they can’t stand is tons of illegals coming over, living off the state and then when the EHCR says you can’t send them back, bring over their extended family.
its the illegals and criminals that people want removed and government legislation to say they have no right to leach off the state, or come over on pretend student visas and never turn… Read more »

transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 months ago
Reply to  Mrs.Croc

You seem to assume that everyone here legally is keen on integrating. I would question that assumption. I think legal immigration is a much bigger issue than illegal because of the huge numbers involved.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
2 months ago

A big parts of the problem is that a lot of people who arrive on time limited work or study visas don’t leave when they should. It’s well known which countries e.g. Pakistan and Nigeria the majority of offenders come from so there shouldn’t be any visas issued to anyone from these countries.

Constant abuse of the visa system e.g. vape or kebab shops sponsoring “highly skilled” workers has to stop.

Firms who want to sponsor genuine highly skilled workers should have to show why they’re unable to find someone already in the UK to do the job, then try and recruit someone from a select list of countries e.g. those with a majority white population. Only when they can show that they’ve tried everything else should they be allowed to sponsor someone from a slightly “dodgy” country.

transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
2 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Yes, agree. I think however we are probably stuck with many of them who are here legally. If we make the benefits system much less generous, some may leave but many won’t. I think we will have a long long period – many generations – in which there will be certain parallel communities. How well integrated are poor blacks descended from slaves in the US? Not that well from what I can see, and they have been there for hundreds of years.

FerdIII
FerdIII
2 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Home Office and their ICE (immig control enforce.) don’t publish numbers of course – stopped doing that in 2020 during the scamdemic.

2020 data:
Roughly 250 K student overstay visa holders p.a.
Some do self deport. We wouldn’t know, since as a joke-country (Braverman) we don’t know who enters or leaves.

300 K who come here on 6 month visa (visa-free countries) are staying. Some self deport, we will never know.

ICE forcibly ejects ~9000 illegals a year…..a pittance. They don’t publish ICE headcount of course.

So just on Visas – we have a potential 500 K problem every year.

Add in the illegals – 100 K min

Add in the legals – 750 K or more.

Add in the brain drain – 200 K leaving every year. Mostly high income, high tax payers.

We have potentially every year:

1) 500 K illegal visa overstayers
2) 100 K illegals from the channel / Serco routes
3) 750 K ‘legals’ from India, Muslim states, Africa, East Asia
4) 200 K leavers

This is a swing of 1.6 million a year.

It is not a swing of joiners less leavers. The leavers are overwhelming White. That is called White Flight.

The… Read more »

RTSC
RTSC
1 month ago

Remove welfare and social support such as housing and (a) they will stop coming and (b) a lot will leave.

transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 month ago
Reply to  RTSC

We should be doing that anyway but we won’t.

Scunnered
Scunnered
1 month ago
Reply to  RTSC

I live in the UAE; no benefits or support for the visa holder or their dependents, pay for your kids’ schooling, better make sure you’ve got good health insurance. Seems sensible to me; immigrants should always be net positive. If we enacted changes like that the flow of low-skilled migration would halt; who on earth would pay taxes into a system like that? Coming to Britain would have to make financial sense.

Smudger
Smudger
1 month ago
Reply to  Mrs.Croc

illegal migrants numerically make up a smallish number of migrants coming to this country. This is not to downplay the emergency in any way. It has to be stopped immediately. It is legal migration that has/will render white British people a minority in their own country by 2050. White British children are already a minority in many British schools.
Farage has stated he is not too troubled with the above demographics – Lowe sets out to fearlessly address what has to be done to halt and reverse the white British
existential issue.
Didn’t Tice when questioned about the demographics issue respond by casually saying we would all be dead by the time white Britons are in a minority so it didn’t really matter?

Curio
Curio
1 month ago
Reply to  Smudger

Good news, people are waking up, someone spells it out and doesn’t have his/her head bitten off (as has historically been the case).

APP
APP
2 months ago

I’ll keep my fingers crossed for common sense 🤞

Sblaxo
Sblaxo
2 months ago

When I first saw the headline I was delighted. At last some progress on the ‘right’ doing what is politically necessary to try to arrest the slide into the globalist hell to which we are heading. When I then saw the five conditions that were put forward. Not put forward as initial bargaining positions but as “red lines from which I will not budge”

This dooms the whole initiative from the start. Farage will not, indeed cannot agree to these demands from the outset.

Just the issue of remigration is one that needs to be discussed but in a pragmatic manner. There will be enormous difficulty in trying to implement this as a strategy. The issue alone of where will these people be deported to? How do you identify country of origin? What will happen, as in recent cases, where the host country flatly refuses to accept our deportees? We are not the US who have financial clout to exercise over the receiving countries.

So, in my view, Rupert, who I have supported has made a tactical blunder which will serve only to further the rift between the two parties. A rift that only exists in a small minority of… Read more »

Neil Datson
Neil Datson
2 months ago
Reply to  Sblaxo

Likely enough his ‘olive branch’ was never intended to heal relations but to further undermine Reform. Given how he has acted since his rift with Reform the only way one can really make sense of his behaviour is to assume that his main aim was to help out the beleaguered Conservative Party.

JXB
JXB
2 months ago
Reply to  Neil Datson

An olive branch isn’t supposed to have a dollop of shyte on the receiving end.

V Detta
V Detta
1 month ago
Reply to  Neil Datson

Agreed – that was my first thought. Farage cannot possible agree to these points which were actually demands. I think Lowe wanted to make him look bad when he rejects the offer. Why do it so publicly? They could have met quietly behind closed doors.

Paul Chandler
Paul Chandler
2 months ago
Reply to  Sblaxo

Excellent comment. I totally agree.

Especially throwing in the death penalty – with all the problems of two, or more, tier justice that we have now we certainly cannot implement the death penalty! Better that ten guilty men go free than one innocent is executed.

Paul Chandler
Paul Chandler
2 months ago
Reply to  Paul Chandler

And following a referendum (postal voting anyone?) we may end up with the death penalty for apostasy. Oops! We already have that.

EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 months ago
Reply to  Sblaxo

That is not a tactical blunder but a representation of his feeling of self worth. The policies his party proposes are unachievable and cannot be part of an election proposition which seeks to win a majority.

By making a grand gesture Lowe seeks publicity and meanwhile he might help his old love, the Tory Party. Rupert was a member of the Tories in the years it was delivering the Boris wave – a bit odd, don’t you think.

Just Stop it Now
Just Stop it Now
1 month ago
Reply to  Sblaxo

Excellent comment, but regarding “We are not the US who have financial clout to exercise over the receiving countries.” I would have thought that stopping overseas aid to the receiving countries would be a start.

Smudger
Smudger
1 month ago
Reply to  Sblaxo

If Farage’s and Reforms poll rating continues to slide southwards and Restore’s increase will Farage move his camp closer to Lowe’s red lines? If so then that is progress.

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