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NHS Pressuring People to Sign “Do Not Attempt to Resuscitate” Orders

Lucy, 93, had a surprise visit from a frailty nursing practitioner with an unwelcome follow-up in the post

In a further sign of how “protect the NHS” gets things precisely backwards (the NHS is supposed to protect us) and puts the vested interests of the organisation ahead of the medical needs of the public, NHS medical staff have been caught pressuring older people to sign “Do Not Attempt to Resuscitate” orders and even imposing them without consent. The Mail has the details, telling the story of 93 year-old Lucy.

All in all, Lucy enjoys a good quality of life and apart from some age-related ailments she had been rated as ‘three’ on the NHS Clinical Frailty Scale (one is ‘very fit’ and nine is ‘terminally ill’).

Despite all this, the morning after the nurse’s unannounced visit to conduct a ‘frailty review’, an envelope was delivered to Lucy’s flat containing an A4-size notice with a stark red border.

Designed to be displayed in her home, it was a “Do Not Attempt To Resuscitate Order” — known as a DNAR or DNR — and it stated that Lucy should not be resuscitated by doctors, nurses, or emergency paramedics if her heart stopped. It was signed by the frailty nursing practitioner.

“I was shocked the NHS won’t save me. If I collapse, they are refusing to put me together again,” Lucy told the Mail.

Lucy is one of millions of people who have been caught up in a new – and, no doubt, well-intentioned – NHS initiative to help those over 65 live at home and not burden hospitals. 

As part of this, individuals are encouraged to make early decisions about ‘advanced care’ and sign a DNAR.

However, concern is growing about the pressure put on older people to accept DNARs. An urgent review has condemned their “blanket use” in care homes at the peak of the COVID-19 crisis earlier this year.

Health watchdog the Care Quality Commission says many were put on medical records without the consent of the person concerned and their families.

Lucy Jeal’s horrified family say Lucy never agreed to the DNAR order, which was also sent to her GP. The family now want the order removed from her medical records.

Lucy’s experience struck a chord with readers up and down the country, and we have received hundreds of letters and emails from people sharing their distress at receiving, or seeing their loved ones receive, DNARs without discussion or their permission.

Read Lucy’s story and many more here.

“Queues of Patients Nursed on Trolleys in Corridors – The NHS Was Overwhelmed”

The 2017-18 winter crisis in the NHS, back when it was expected to cope without imprisoning the population and shuttering the economy

An NHS frontline nurse of some 17 years clinical experience has got in touch with some observations about how ludicrous it is to be locking down to “protect the NHS” when the NHS is often in crisis during the winter.

The NHS’s “most serious winter crisis for many years”. A “lack of staff and beds”. 75% of acute medicine doctors say their “hospitals are not properly prepared”. An “inability to cope with the number of patients arriving”. The NHS “not well-equipped to deal with it”. Over 64,000 all-cause deaths in January alone.

Are these predictions for this winter?

No. It is what happened three years ago in the winter of 2017-18. There were more than 50,000 excess winter deaths in England and Wales during that period – the highest recorded excess winter deaths since the winter of 1975-76.

Was there a daily death toll on the BBC news? Do you even remember hearing it in the news?

I remember it actually as I was working in the NHS throughout. Influenza was rife, hospitals were full, ambulances frequently diverted, queues of patients nursed on hospital trolleys in corridors, bed managers scoured the wards for potential discharges. The NHS was overwhelmed.

But I didn’t hear anyone calling for lockdown back then.

This year, on the other hand, critical care bed occupancy was below average as it peaked in mid-November, as these graphs from the Spectator‘s excellent data tracker show.

The problem, of course, is that the political leaders who should have been providing this kind of perspective instead joined in the panic. We have also been severely let down by our public health advisers and scientists.

It’s The Covid Panto, But The Children Aren’t Laughing

The coronavirus crisis increasingly seems to resemble a pantomime, with the ludicrous actors playing their parts and delivering their lines, and pretending not to hear when the audience spots the off-message data poking out of the cupboard at their rear and shouts “it’s behind you!” That’s certainly the feeling Sinead Murphy, a philosophy lecturer at Newcastle University and Lockdown Sceptics contributor, has been getting. Today we’re publishing a new article from her setting out the challenges she has faced navigating lockdown with her autistic son, Joseph, and her epiphany that reasoning with people doesn’t work when they are just playing their parts and delivering their lines.

As I stood across from the acting Head in the vestibule of his school – looking, with his visor, like a poorly-costumed afterthought in the school play – it occurred to me how degraded we have become. That one who ought to be a leader in the community – the Head of a primary school of 630 children – should openly admit that the rationality or otherwise of his decisions on behalf of the children in his school was irrelevant when confronted with recently invented and constantly changing guidelines from the state. That the welfare of all the children – not to mention Joseph, with his additional challenges – was not even to be considered, let alone fought for.

What struck me too was the difference in our demeanour. Notwithstanding his ludicrous visor, his comportment was one of (slightly ruffled) calm; he listened and said little. My comportment, by contrast, was one of heated conviction. And yet, it was he who was selling lunacy that defies all facts, and I who was arguing for reason based on evidence. These are times when lunacy is so deeply institutionalised that it can appear calm, and reason so embattled that it has to act crazy.

When I repeated my question to the acting Head, asking him to respond to the negligible risk to children and the zero cases of child-to-teacher transmission, his response was “I am not a scientist”. Well, I am not a scientist either. But Mike Yeadon is. And Sunetra Gupta is. And John Lee is. And Carl Heneghan is. And those who generate statistics at the ONS and the WHO are. Not only this, these scientists produce comprehensible sentences, which can be read and understood. What is the good of being able to read and understand them if their contents are deemed not for me because I am not a scientist? What a truncation, of the Head of a school, that he cannot form a judgement on the basis of reading analyses written for non-experts by experts, but can only play the role assigned to him by the policy. An acting Head reduced to reading from the script.

And that is when the light dawned on my darkest hour.

Well worth reading in full.

Support Sinead Quinn

Sinead Quinn is the brave hairdresser from Quinn Blakey Hairdressing in Oakenshaw near Bradford who has been fined £27,000 by Kirklees council for refusing to close during the lockdown and quoting the Magna Carta whenever the martinet officials appear outside her salon. She has now started a crowdfunding page to help pay the fines if her legal challenge fails – though if she wins, as she expects, the money will go to her brother who is fighting cancer.

I’m confident in the fact we will win this fight, so in that case the money will go to my amazing brother who is fighting against stage four bowel cancer. He was diagnosed in August 2020 and he’s 36 year old with a wife and two children. He is an amazing soul and he gives me the confidence to fight every single day. He is my best friend and I wouldn’t be able to do this without him.

Here’s to 2021 – my brother cancer-free and standing up for our rights and taking our freedoms back. 

A deserving cause – do give as you are able and spread the word by sharing the crowdfunder.

Vaccination Must Not be Compulsory – Tell Your MP

Following our appeal yesterday to readers to write to their MP to call for no restrictions on those who refuse to have a Covid vaccination ahead of the Parliamentary debate on December 14th, a reader has sent us a copy of the letter he sent to his MP, Anthony Browne. It’s a good letter, and we’re publishing it below in case it inspires others to write similarly.

I voted for you at the last election.

I am writing in connection with the upcoming debate on coronavirus vaccines. I wish to stress that I am not anti-vax, but like many I do have reservations about the vaccine and any thoughts the government might have about making it compulsory or imposing restrictions upon those that refuse to take it.

We live in a free society (or used to anyway) and the very thought that a vaccine might be compulsory makes my blood boil. The government’s handling of this pandemic has been utterly shambolic – we have ended up in the worst of all worlds by having a high death rate and a shattered economy and all for a virus that has an infection fatality rate of under 0.5% (and it may be significantly lower than that).

I’ve never bought into the argument that it was a good idea to quarantine the healthy in order to suppress the virus, and nor do I buy into the argument that we should now vaccinate everyone who is healthy to achieve the same goal. Trying to suppress the virus is like trying to put the genie back in the bottle. We should be shielding the vulnerable and allowing the virus to circulate amongst the healthy, lower risk, population – that is the way we have conquered respiratory viruses in the past and vaccines should be available to the vulnerable and those that want them (and should never be mandatory).

I lived through the Hong Kong flu pandemic in the late 1960s – one in which this country lost c80,000 lives. More than in the current crisis and at a time when the U.K. population was c55m. We did not destroy our economy because of that pandemic and public debt fell during the period in contrast to the mind boggling mountain of debt that has been incurred on your watch.

Do not go down the route of making the vaccine mandatory or imposing restrictions on those that prefer not to take it. If you do, then I for one will certainly never put a cross against your name again.

The link to the Write To Them site, which makes it easier to write to your MP, is here.

Round-up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Two today: “Helplessly hoping” by Crosby, Stills & Nash and “Down Down” by Status Quo.

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing Stories

Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics so you can share it. To do that, click on the headline of a particular story and a link symbol will appear on the right-hand side of the headline. Click on the link and the URL of your page will switch to the URL of that particular story. You can then copy that URL and either email it to your friends or post it on social media. Please do share the stories.

Social Media Accounts

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the news that Millwall fans celebrated being back in the stands by taking the first opportunity given them to show how they felt about their players taking the knee in support of BLM. They booed. The Mail has the story.

Millwall supporters booed their own players while they took the knee in support of the fight against racism at The Den this afternoon.

The scenes have prompted reactions from pundits and former players including Trevor Sinclair, Gregg Halford and Gary Lineker, who told his Twitter followers the Millwall fans not booing were in the “minority”.

The day marked the first time that fans were able to attend a game in person since lockdown began in March.

As 2,000 supporters were permitted to attend the Millwall versus Derby County game, it also marked the first time fans have been present since footballers started to take the knee before games.

The gesture has been carried out by players and staff across the country originally in support of Black Lives Matter, before the Premier League distanced itself from the movement.

Not all teams continue to take the knee before games, with Queens Park Rangers’ director of football Les Ferdinand saying the impact of the stance had been “diluted”. 

As their match against Derby County was about to begin, video footage taken from the ground shows that there were a large number of aggressive boos from the stands as the players knelt down.

Millwall boss Gary Rowett said he was “disappointed” by the fans’ behaviour, while opposition manager Wayne Rooney said it was “surprising”.

In response, the FA said in a statement: “The FA supports all players and staff that wish to take a stand against discrimination in a respectful manner, which includes taking of the knee, and strongly condemns the behaviours of any spectators that actively voice their opposition to such activities.”

The scenes sparked shockwaves through the game, and have divided social media users.

Some players, pundits and fans have condemned the fans’ actions while others say the gesture is no longer appropriate.

Stop Press: Not to be outdone, it’s been reported that the Vicar of Dibley will take the knee for BLM in her Christmas sermon.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.

Stop Press: The US CDC has stepped up its mask guidance and now advises “universal use of face masks” which it claims is supported by “compelling evidence”.

Universal use of face masks. Consistent and correct use of face masks is a public health strategy critical to reducing respiratory transmission of SARS-CoV-2, particularly in light of estimates that approximately one half of new infections are transmitted by persons who have no symptoms. Compelling evidence now supports the benefits of cloth face masks for both source control (to protect others) and, to a lesser extent, protection of the wearer. To preserve the supply of N95 respirators for health care workers and other medical first responders, CDC recommends nonvalved, multilayer cloth masks or nonmedical disposable masks for community use. Face mask use is most important in indoor spaces and outdoors when physical distance of ≥6 feet cannot be maintained. Within households, face masks should be used when a member of the household is infected or has had recent potential COVID-19 exposure (e.g. known close contact or potential exposure related to occupation, crowded public settings, travel, or non-household members in your house). 

Hard to believe these are supposed to be the authoritative experts given how much in that paragraph is inaccurate or misleading. Have they not noticed, for instance, that mask mandates appear to have done nothing to avert autumn surges in France, Italy, California, etc.?

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now well over 700,000 signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email [email protected] or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

Quotation Corner

We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Mark Twain

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.

Charles Mackay

They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…

Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury

Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

Richard Feynman

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Albert Camus

We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.

Carl Sagan

Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

George Orwell

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius

Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

William Pitt the Younger

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels (attributed)

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

H.L. Mencken

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And Finally…

The Ulster Fry has done a brilliant mock Christmas album ad. Not to be missed.

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Kim
Kim
5 years ago

Re: NHS crisis – it wasn’t just 2018. I made a Twitter thread of news articles starting in 1996 & it turns out, the NHS has been on its arse every single year……

https://twitter.com/ILOVETINY/status/1318651733615218688

Sharon Collins
Sharon Collins
5 years ago

Freedom passes. I just went to sign it said 360,000 odd. I signed, it said I’d already signed. Sent me a link to another one with only 15,000 on View the petition “Do not implement Covid-19 Freedom Passes” at:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/561818

Can I get original please. I can’t find it

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

Smallpox is estimated to have killed 500 million people in the hundred or so years up to 1970.

Smallpox killed 30% of those infected.

Smallpox affected and killed all age-groups, particularly young children.

Many of those who did not die were left disfigured or crippled for life.

No comparison..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_smallpox

Liewe
Liewe
5 years ago

Stop Press!! Horrifying news from South Africa! Teenagers are selfishly partying at festivals, having given up most of their school year and missing out on all the usual graduation rituals.

Some poor medical practice has been overrun by teens’ parents insisting on tests for the deadly virus and they have found 20 (so far) to be positive. The “patients” are all asymptomatic.

This is truly concerning, I am living in fear that one of my partying teens might expire from a deadly asymptomatic virus.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago

Because it’s sooooo “vicious” that it’s killed 1.5 million worldwide in just a year.

Of course, we must remember that number is made up of all the people who have died after having a positive test. They didn’t all die OF Covid.

Your point is, of course, still valid.

DavidC
DavidC
5 years ago

On the basis of TOTAL UK deaths this year (projected arithmetically to the end of the year), using Gov.uk statistics, and population adjusted, this year ranks 53 out 0f 70 since 1950 – it’s not even in the top half.

I can provide the figures if desired.

DavidC

rose
rose
5 years ago
Reply to  DavidC

Yes please. Will be good to show believers…although I’ve almost given up trying!

DavidC
DavidC
5 years ago
Reply to  rose

Rose, the latest ONS figures are out tomorrow so I’ll wait until then and provide an up to date set of figures although it should still be same in terms of rank.

DavidC

optocarol
optocarol
5 years ago

Does it seem strange to anyone else that DNRs are being encouraged, but everything possible must be done not to “kill granny”?

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  optocarol

Yes. We live in an empire of lies.

karenovirus
karenovirus
5 years ago
Reply to  Liam

According to the BBC we live in ‘a cloud of fear’ from which the vaccine will release us.

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  optocarol

They can kill her. We can’t.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

A genuine ‘pandemic’ would not require this level of skulduggery

Italian politicians are as corrupt as any – deaths *with* Covid to be classed as deaths *from* Covid (ie. lies)

https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1335667915895529477?s=20

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/06/rudy-giuliani-coronavirus-covid-donald-trump?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Rudy Giuliani +

How many times does this article refer to him not wearing a bloody mask. They are sick.

Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
5 years ago

Comments also ranting about lack of mask. Superstition is alive and kicking.

Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago

And how about the governor of Nevada who ALWAYS wears his talisman and still got Covid? He has no idea how he could have possibly contracted it. Virus gonna virus.

AnotherSceptic
AnotherSceptic
5 years ago
BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  AnotherSceptic

Not looking forward to the NHS staff posting their heart felt pleas for people to get vaccinated

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago
Reply to  AnotherSceptic

Another fake shaming anecdote being used to manipulate the gullible public.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

This shit show has gone on for for so long we are seeing a repeat of the earlier propaganda.

TJS123
TJS123
5 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Absolutely doesn’t ring true at all.More Holby City than real life.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  TJS123

^^^This^^^

DavidC
DavidC
5 years ago
Reply to  TJS123

What?! You mean Holby Citty ISN’T a documentary?! Dang!

DavidC

Two-Six
Two-Six
5 years ago
Reply to  AnotherSceptic

Never trust a woman who draws her eyebrows on everyday.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  AnotherSceptic

…five more people died from Covid-19…

…643 cases of the bug were reported…

…being treated for the deadly virus…

What a heap of crap!

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Utter shite.

p02099003
p02099003
5 years ago
Reply to  AnotherSceptic

I’ve read the article and it does ring true, except observations and other checks are completed hourly, but that is ITU irrespective of SARS-CoV-2.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

Further up in the comments, sombody mentioned the German neurologist who maintains that persistent masl-wearing causes brain damage.

‘Guy123’ asked:

“Yes but she doesn’t provide any evidence besides I’m a neurologist with letters after my name and I say so. If we believe her why not all the “respected scientists” who tell us we will all die slowly and painfully from Long Covid?”

My response:

“Because she, in speaking against the prevailing narrative, is risking reputation, position, and possibly income, whereas a scientist supporting the established narartive risks nothing.”

Obviously, any scientist must provide evidence for a claim. However, I considered this exchange worth re-posting, because the principle is important.

Generally, we can see that covidian scientists have an interest in supporting the narrative, because they are dependent for current income on government, sorporate interests or academia, whereas anti-covidian scientists, when not retired, which they often are – making them independent, are taking a risk in contradicting the dominant narrative.

This makes their statements especially worthy of consideration.

Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

That’s pretty much what I tell anyone who says, “I don’t know who to believe.” I say, believe the experts who are risking reputation and livelihood. Why else would they possibly contradict the accepted narrative? There’s nothing in it for them and a whole lot to lose.

DavidC
DavidC
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

Spot on. My degree was in Microbiology although I (eventually) didn’t pursue it as a career.. I’m now semi retired. I have the freedom to use my degree knowledge and scientific background without an eye on employment – and I’ve been against the ‘narrative’ since the early days. The data and facts just do NOT back up the narrative. And yet, in one exchange, quote, ‘On what planet on Earth (sic) do you have a degree in Microbiology when it’s obvious that you don’t know anything’.

DavidC

Roadrash
Roadrash
5 years ago

https://twitter.com/ZNeveri/status/1335688432736202752?s=20

apologies if this has been posted elsewhere. WHO chief doesn’t see the need to get tested after self isolation because he has no symptoms. Fair enough….so wtf are we testing the sh*t out of the nation

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Roadrash

One rule for them, etc.

Don’t ever apologising for posting anything, EVER! 🙂

There are many, many posts on here every day; it’s hard to spot them all. Stuff being posted numerous times is a good thing (IMHO, of course)

Edit: Hang on; what about this asymptomatic bullshit they’re all going on about!

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

Predictive performance of international COVID-19 mortality forecasting modelsLots of interesting things in here. However this stood out for me. Imperial College Modelling was shown to be widely out as you got further into the weeks. When compared to other models, it is so different, it begs the questions as to why it is so alarmist?

This one was in relation to mortality modelling.

Predictive performance of international COVID-19 mortality forecasting models | medRxiv

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annie
annie
5 years ago

I’m no statistician, but one thing that was always obvious is that Ferguson knows that the biggest corpse count gets the most attention. It doesn’t need to be even remotely connected to reality or probability, and it has no need to be correct or even plausible. Just big.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

Ferguson is a criminal lunatic.

Achilles
Achilles
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

For all it’s formulas and algorithms and coding Ferguson’s model for every scenario it’s ever been applied to can be reduced to one simple statement. “If you don’t do anything thousands will die.”. The actual figures it supplies can never be proven or disproven. Ferguson has only one hypothesis, the model is just a piece of technical convolution to give it weight.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

Why so alarmist?

Because the agenda demanded it.

dhid
dhid
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

“Why so alarmist?
Because the agenda demanded it.”

..and Ferguson is an utterly useless cunt.

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago

Something often forgotten. Ferguson’s modelling was for pandemic flu. Not corona

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Leemc23

Don’t criticise the Model.Mr Pinch will be on soon

Doodle
Doodle
5 years ago

I was just about to post almost the same comment when yours appeared!

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Doodle

I accused him of being Ferguson himself once.

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago

I accused him of being his married lover.

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago

That fucking model ruined Western Europe (or aided it being ruined) it is criminal criminal bullshit.

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Galt
John Galt
5 years ago

Not sure if this has been posted before:

https://twitter.com/Ronnie62597744/status/1335598172782153728

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

I just watched that for the first time.

Despite all else that has happened in the last few months – I am gobsmacked, although I know I shouldn’t be.

Covid Britain.

This will not end well – nor should it.

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

For the first time ever, I am glad that I don’t have my parents any more.

John Galt
John Galt
5 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

So it seems that this video is the precursor to the video of the woman being arrested for taking her mother out of the care home:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-54801702

Leemc23
Leemc23
5 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

Wow. Just wow. When did we as a society decide to treat our older people like this ?

James007
James007
5 years ago

I’ve just seen that video of the man in his 60s being dragged to the ground by police. He appears to have an anxiety attack, and screams with distress. The video is 3 minutes long, and prior to the incident he appears to be committing the apparently heinous crime of standing peacefully with a couple of other people. In the background, there appear to be dozens of police officers, standing around. The fact that they are all masked, like bank robbers makes it even more disturbing.
It appears that protesting about lockdowns is extremely dangerous to public safety, other activities such as market trading or gathering to watch buskers is apparently fine.

I will never believe anyone who tells me that we need more police officers. Or that the police service is underfunded. I will never believe anyone who says we ought to be proud of our police service.
We need to regularly remind people that the Conservative Party, and this government bear HUGE blame for the fact that our police service has completely forgotten its role. It is failing in its duties. Individual officers are hiding behind the ‘only following orders’ defence, and we all know where we have… Read more »

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  James007

Do you remember just a short while ago, we were pleased when Priti P said she was going to give us a couple of thousand extra police officers? We thought they’d be on our side, like in the good old days (last year) and it never occurred to us they’d be introduced as weapons.

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

To be honest I started to smell a rat when I saw the adverts for the new police officers. It was all about diversity…classic social engineering….they made them look like social workers ‘helping’ people. If they are social workers we can now see they are on the paramilitary wing of them.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  James007

I’ve read quite a few comments on social media from people who say they’ve lost respect for the police.
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calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

To answer Julia’s question:

Because the government want the consumer drones to keep the economy ticking over, while at the same time punishing mercilessly any attempt by people at social action to protest their grievances.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  James007

We need a populist party that will make clear it will legislate to take retrospective action against anyone, private individual, politician or public employee found guilty of gross breaches of our natural human rights. It has come to that I am afraid. The differential policing going on is completely unacceptable.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  James007

The Police Force is now little more than a the Covid Enforcement Unit. Nothing else seems to matter to these thugs in blue.

James007
James007
5 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

It has been officially decided that the Covidian faith is the righteous cause. Covidian practices, particularly masks, hygiene rituals, social isolation and economic penance are signs of virtue.
Lockdown scepticism is heracy. It is dangerous.
Even the CofE seems to regard Covid as a greater force than the Holy Spirit, and covidian practices as more sacred than the sacraments.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  James007

I find the CofE’s stance confusing and hypocritical when lockdown rules are banning congregations

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

The solution for the European nations to reduce the C-19 “cases”. Use the antigen test. Spain’s reduction of C-19 recently due to that. Many will follow incl Sweden

https://twitter.com/BrianvLowe/status/1335707080133660673

“The €5 antigen test could have been used from the beginning to keep a lid on C19. But it wasn’t the Gold standard, AKA no gold in it for us. Sweden now using antigen in some regions”

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

How about we just scrap the tests and live our lives?

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

How about they let us?
How about we do it whether they let us or not?

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Agreed, we only need targeted testing in places like hospitals care homes when someone exhibits clear Covid symptoms.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

We need to test for the flu, instead of Covid and that would likely solve the problem all by itself.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

We just need the crooks in government to renounce their oaths of allegiance to Bill Gates, then return the very generous cash incentives and your plan will likely be a goer. For now though, refuse to wear masks, decline to be tested and most of course avoid the dodgy vaccines, as though your life depended on it, which it probably will.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Market-Ticker – The Market Ticker (market-ticker.org)

This guy called it early. He said that all they would have had to do was issue the tests from Day 1 and there would have been no pandemic. He is of the opinion that because they didn’t, and also ended some early seroprevalence studies in the US, there are clearly other agendas to the fore.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago

It’a a long planned and well telegraphed agenda to bring about massive global depopulation. Gates’s vaccine experiments have left a trail of suffering painful disability and death across Africa and India, but no one really bothers, money talks no doubt. Gates has been telling us for years what he is up to, but still people will tell you what a great guy he is.

theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

If they feel the need to test, I agree this test is better.

Rowan
Rowan
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

The quickest way out of the Covid scam is to stop the testing altogether and hey presto it’s all over. As for the unnecessary hardly tested and liability free Covid vaccines, only the very gullible will be bearing their arms, for injection with this depopulating junk.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Darryl
Darryl
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

The Met Police should stop beating up innocent protestors whilst they turn a blind eye to Christmas shoppers. One day the peaceful protestors might just fight back and the TSG will deserve everything they get for the months of tyranny they have imposed. It isn’t exactly hard to police an anti lockdown protest, just let them march and then they go home within a couple of hours.

OKUK
5 years ago

AMERICASTOFFS

The podcast that tells you the 95% of the news Sopel, Maitlis and the rest of the BBC are absolutely determined you shouldn’t hear.

1. The Fulton County, Georgia evidence is stacking up well. There is video of the secret counting taking place using ballots kept hidden under a table after party monitors were removed from the scene, people being told a water leak meant the count had to be suspended. Video also exists of a USB being palmed between three people (two of whom were part of the secret count). The video ties in with huge 98% Biden spike on 23,000 votes – enough to deliver him victory. Mentioned this last night but since then I have seen no convincing rebuttal. This is the smoking gun I think.

2. There may be a second smoking gun. Multiple sources are claiming that forensic examination of a voting machine in Ware County, Georgia found it had been set up,to switch Trump votes to Biden at a margin of 26%, so Biden was getting 13% more votes than were actually cast for him. This might have been the same on all Dominion machines in which case it is all… Read more »

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Drop it, dead ‘un.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  annie

More alive than ever as you will soon find out.

String
String
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Good stuff. Thanks.
Just to expand on a couple of these:

2) You might recall in 2016 an effort was coordinated to force recounts in key battleground states – Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin; traditionally strongholds for Democrats particularly at local level, with strong party machines, states which a Republican (certainly not a Trump!) shouldn’t win.. Those recounts were dropped quietly when it emerged that Trump gained votes. quelle surprise these states feature prominently again in 2020.

3) Stacy Abrams to this day refuses to admit she lost an election in Georgia, and claims it is all because the system is racist. Nothing to do with the fact that she ran on being able to run the economy – despite being hundreds of thousands in debt; & was the subject of multiple ethics investigations. Nothing to do with apparent voter intimidation, with black panthers armed with AK-47’s patrolling the streets on her behalf while she said she wanted to eliminate assault rifles.
In 2018 days after the Gubernatorial election, a number of Georgia counties ‘found’ several thousand votes, an exceedingly large % turned out to be Abrams…this continued little by little with Abrams filing lawsuits attempting to block certification, as votes were… Read more »

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  String

Thanks for the correct spelling of Stacy Abrams!

If the MSM thought they could pile in and demonstrate convincingly that the allegations of electoral fraud were a pile of poo they would do so in a heartbeat. The fact they haven’t suggests to me they know there is substance to the allegations. The BBC has a huge news op in the USA but I haven’t seen a single report where they’ve gone and interviewed someone who has signed an affadavit alleging electoral fraud or malpractice.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK
OKUK
5 years ago

Absolute c-rap.

Firstly the GA elections manager has already been outed as a mad anti-Trumper (tweet proof) who , as such a partisan figure, should never have been let near the election count.

Secondly there is absolutely no detail in the denial from the GA Sec of State, just assertion. Also it does not address the issues relating to secret counting and the video showing the palming between three people (including two officials involved in the secret count) of a USB during the count.

TheBluePill
TheBluePill
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Thanks for this. I think this is really important and is linked heavily to Coronabollocks. It shows the lengths that these people will go to to get their own way (usually to get their way in their war on CO2).

It was clear to me, watching the results come in, just what they were up to, they must have been really desperate when they had to suspend the counts and switch to the emergency plan. I have seen two statistical analyses where, assuming the data was correct, the results were clearly manipulated – one analysis used Benford’s law to show manipulation. The other showed that the one constant in the voting figures – the proportion of postal votes between candidates – suddenly got skewed when it was clear Trump was winning. The postal vote proportion should have been constant because the votes were essentially shuffled by the postal service. The clear violation of Benford’s law shows this was a last-ditch fraud as they could have tried to evade this if they had the time.

Because this is censored almost immediately, it is hard to be sure that the analyses are genuine, but they do seem pretty convincing. The way that… Read more »

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Absolutely. I really wouldn’t post on US elections unless I thought it was crucial to what will happen re lockdowns, masking, vaccination and digital passports.

All your comments are valid.

I think the best outcome now would be for the Supreme Court to order the states to rerun their elections using paper only ballots and with certain restrictions on mail ballots ( eg to be received by election day). I think that is feasible if the Supreme Court orders federal officials to oversee the process. SCOTUS would have to override some legislative deadlines but I believe that have the power to do so. This could all be arranged so as to meet the 22 Jan Inauguration deadline,

theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago

I don’t give a crap about Brexit whilst this tyranny continues. Used to. Don’t anymore.

Bet I’m not alone in these sentiments. Boris needs to go. Now.

Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Same feeling here.

Stuart
Stuart
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Crashout 21 is the point of the tyranny.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Stuart

Seems pretty implausible.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Stuart

Doesn’t explain the tyranny worldwide.Brexit is irrelevant if we leave the EU and are under the yoke of Agenda 21/30

Lucan Grey
Lucan Grey
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

That I suspect is the point. While the hysterical are worried sick about a bad cold they aren’t moaning about Brexit

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

What about the 180 other countries?

If this crisis has shown anything, it is that the EU etc is irrelevant.

Mark
Mark
5 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

As I noted to Stuart below: seems pretty implausible. This is a global panic, driven and/or exploited by global interest groups as well as national ones all over the world. It was and is being pushed at least as much by Remain types, institutions and politicians as by Brexiteers.

So how could any of this nonsense have Brexit as its “point”?

As far as I can see, there is no plausible connection between the two whatsoever.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Exactly, (was Brexit supporter)

I have one damned priority.

I want myself and my fellow human beings to be able to live as human beings.

Until that happens everything else is meaningless.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

I think we’ve got a better chance of achieving that outside the EU, albeit the chance is still slim.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Hypocrisy of the #FBPE crowd. Their self righteous demonisation of Leave voters was justified, in their minds, by the perceived damage to the UK economy. Now the same #FBPE fanatics are calling for tougher and tougher lockdowns whilst their town centres collapse around them

Borisbullshit
Borisbullshit
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

The ‘economic damage’ line was just a weapon…the reality was they just loved being in the EU. Simple as.

Les Tricotueses
Les Tricotueses
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

You’re not the only one, globalists have bigger fish to fry right now and have decided that Brexit is just not important anymore.

dhid
dhid
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

I agree about the tyranny, but proper Brexit must happen regardless!
Yes Boris needs to “do one” – but WankCock needs a bullet in his head – apparently.

Jonathan Palmer
Jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  dhid

I hope they betray the Brexit vote.It was the one issue that roused the masses from their slumber.The betrayal may lead to pushback.

p02099003
p02099003
5 years ago

Just to emphasise, I have given some advice to Tommo which I would normally never do but this is the exception as I have a low threshold for concern when it is a child, very low threshold for a preschool infant and significantly low for a child from 12 weeks to 2 years old. If the baby is under 6 weeks then I am more than likely referring to children’s A&E for paediatric review. Children can suddenly become very unwell, they can compensate for a lot longer than an adult then they decompensate in the blink of an eye.

Maccynic
Maccynic
5 years ago

So what’s the point of giving a MRNA vaccine to produce spike protein s? Your immune system will produce antibodies to the real virus or the vaccine produced spike proteins. Same thing. No death. Those at risk, who can’t raise antibodies to the virus, are unlikely to raise antibodies to the vaccines spike proteins. What’s the point of the vaccine?

Stuart
Stuart
5 years ago
Reply to  Maccynic

Polyethylene glycol is the point of the vaccine.

George L
George L
5 years ago
Reply to  Stuart

Could be handy in the frosty weather..

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

Looking around carefully to try and find a pandemic anywhere, one is reminded of this from Orwell’s ‘1984’:

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”

James007
James007
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

I read the book many years ago, it made such an impression on me I haven’t forgotten it. There are many parallels.

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

https://twitter.com/Kevin_McKernan/status/1335693902955876355
Kevin McKernan continuing with the massacre of the Drosten PCR protocol. Perhaps explains the pos PCR tests of mango and paw paw.

“BUT REDUCED SENSITIVITY DOESN’T CREATE FPs”. I present to you Jung et al. Promiscuous primers, not only fails to amplify your targets in some samples, they also amplify things they shouldn’t in other samples. In this case they amplify Water (NTC).”

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

I was literally just reading through his posts this evening, the kicker being that Dorsten was an author on a paper which warned against an assay being included in RT-PCR protocol that led to water returning positives. This was in 2018 I think.

This is absolutely amazing stuff from McKernan
Kevin McKernan on Twitter: “After reading these 4 papers discussing how water samples are positive and the RdRp assay needs replacing…. Tell me again how we should encourage 24hr. review with COIs.” / Twitter

Teebs
Teebs
5 years ago

Can NHS please confirm that DNR/DNAR have also been issued for:

  1. Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson
  2. Matthew Hancock
  3. Michael Gove
  4. Pritti Patel
  5. Neil Fergusson
  6. Patrick Valance
  7. Christopher Whitty
  8. Johnathan Van Tam

Thank you,

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  Teebs

Given their age that should include Blair, Major, Billybot and Mr Palindrome.

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  thinkaboutit

And that Scotsman, Blacksoul or whatever he calls himself. That should save the exchequer quite a bit in the parliamentary expenses account.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Teebs

Nicola Sturgeon
Jason Leitch
Mark Drakeford
Vaughan Gething
Nadine Dorries
Steven Powis
June Raine

and especially… That Irish bastard who gets kids to advertise the vaccine

Sarigan
Sarigan
5 years ago

Revelation Of The Method

There is one question very few are asking. Even on the most obscure blogs or conspiracy forums, we don’t find serious discussion of it.

https://coronacircus.com/2020/11/21/revelation-of-the-method/

I have posted before but well worth a read if not read or a reread.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago
Reply to  Sarigan

A very interesting blog – this caught my eye in April:

From Northern Italy 2018

“We would like however to report on the strange pneumonia epidemic that occurred in and around Brescia in Lombardy (Italy) between September and November 2018. As you may know, that is also the first epicenter of the current “Covid” epidemic in Europe. Only this one happened slightly more than a year before. It was extremely peculiar, and was extensively covered by the local press. Here were its main characteristics (references will be found below).

Local hospitals were overwhelmed: over 850 people were admitted in a short time span, among which at least 10 died. Astonishingly, the patients affected were 70% male (does that remind you of anything?). They were furthermore predominantly elderly, or with diseases that involve immunosuppression and/or other risk factors such as smoking. Children were barely affected (still nothing?). The patients that presented the most serious conditions suffered from respiratory distress and had to be put on ventilators.

Furthermore, health authorities at the time said this episode was unlike anything they had ever seen.”

https://coronacircus.com/2020/04/23/coronacirus-revisionism-chapter-1-the-strange-case-of-brescia/

Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago

Lock-downs and bubbles
Much concern locally when it was announced that Devon was going from lock-down to tier 2 but then it happened and it seems to have been a damp squib. Much to my surprise the doughty ladies who run our village coffee morning decided that they had checked the rules and we could resume the village coffee morning and so Friday morning there was a good turn out of villagers for coffee, scones and a chin-wag. The village primary school came out for its weekly outside activity session on the football field, boisterous games, with jostling, excitement and laughter and no face-masks. This afternoon the local theatre group put on a pantomime show in the village hall, limited audience due to social distancing but live theatre nonetheless.

Yesterday I was on a nature reserve work-party, we were supposed to implement some idea of splitting into groups of no more than 6 but that idea lasted all of about 5 minutes and we ended up working much as normal. The village football team was back in action yesterday and this morning saw a good turn out for the village over 50’s walking football session.

Then tonight one of my… Read more »

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Very appropriate as the “rules” were a load of bubbles in the first place.

annie
annie
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Well done, doughty Devonians! The spirit of Drake is stirring, perhaps?

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Meanwhile in Northern Ireland

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Ben
Ben
5 years ago

Oliver Cromwell’s ghost, shaming people for enjoying life. They must be so bitter

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

I’ll also add this, we are a disgrace. THE CURTAIN TWITCHING FILES: NI ADDITION
PSNI logs show curtain-twitching complaints during lockdown – The Irish News

Carrickfergus: “Large gathering in the restaurant. These people DO NOT all live at the same address. Possible family gathering.”

Ahoghill: “Residents have an elderly woman come round each day who does not live in the household. They also take multiple walks each day.”

Belfast: “I witnessed a van pull up and proceed to groom our neighbour’s dogs.. This is not an essential service.”

Belfast: “I reported my housemate earlier in the day for going back and forwards between her parents’ house in Omagh and this address.”

Antrim: “Non-essential travel during Covid-19 lockdown. He is a non-essential worker currently furloughed. Only today left at the following times: 0855-0910; 1150-1200; 1400-1425; 1515-1540; 1605-1635. Even had five cars outside on Mother’s Day. I expect similar antics over the Easter holidays and will obtain photos accordingly.”

Derry: “Breaking of the current coronavirus lockdown government guidelines as the householder is babysitting for another family.”

Belfast: “A few kids playing together in the Gaelic pitch.. Intermittent sounds. Unsure how many. Can hear them talking.”

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

Good grief. Most exciting thing that’s ever happened to them!

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Yes indeed! I always think that these who wear their muzzles with pride (and what you can see of their expression makes them look like sheep, with that same mix of fear and arrogance) do it because it’s probably the most important thing that’s ever happened in their very narrow lives.
Perhaps I should feel sorry for them. Unfortunately, they make me boil with anger.

mhcp
mhcp
5 years ago

I can bet some of these very people just turned the TV up when someone was getting a knee-capping round the back alley

Waldorf
Waldorf
5 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

I like the Antrim one, who is either 1) A professional informer or 2) Into journaling.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

No social distancing. How very dare they?!

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago

I wonder which pot all these fines go into?

Silke David
Silke David
5 years ago

Looks to me like the break room at the local police station!

Biker
Biker
5 years ago

I’d fine them too, imagine drinking from plastic glasses. If you’re gonna get hammered do it with style.

Mrs issedoff
Mrs issedoff
5 years ago

I just shake my head in despair when I think of the people who still believe this is about Covid. I am feeling more and more beaten down and just drained of all happiness and hope for the future. Apologies for the defeatist attitude, maybe tomorrow will be better?!!.

Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago
Reply to  Mrs issedoff

I hope it is better for you tomorrow.

bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Thanks SM for this, so good to hear about common sensical attitudes to the insane rules!
It seems to be received wisdom that once shops, both large and small, open then life is normal. But for most of us that’s just a small part of normality, the groups and activities you describe are what’s normal, those are the little things that make up a community and they have been stolen from us this year.
Bugger shopping, I want to sing carols.

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

We’re going to sing carols. We’re going to go to our village church on Christmas Eve – where, no doubt, there’ll be too many people to allow us all inside. So we (two of us) are going to sing carols under the preaching cross. That’s what it’s there for.

bluemoon
bluemoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

How wonderful, I’m jealous! Here it’s: Ooh no. Better be careful. Well we’re not allowed to are we. It’s not safe. It’s still around you know.

BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
5 years ago

Thanks for the link – 40k responses, 95% like-minded.

calchas
calchas
5 years ago

MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE

GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY —IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY

BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITHSOCIAL DUTIES

BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH —LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE —LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE

Georgia Guidestones -points: 1, 2, 8 and 10

Biker
Biker
5 years ago
Reply to  calchas

I’m surprised some Patriot hasn’t driven a tank through these Georgia Guidestones

Allan Gay
Allan Gay
5 years ago

I thought I’d try my hand at some doggerel on the subject of PCR test sensitivity …

That 45’s a huge Cee-tee 
Which no one would advise:
The merest tiny fart
Brings tears to Britons’ eyes.

A silent waft in Holyrood
May stir a Scotsman’s kilt
But down in southern England
PCR tests light up TILT!

A toot in southern England
May swell some Channel sails
With catastrophic outcomes
At the Senned in South Wales

And if the Turtle gets confused
Holyrood vibrates
The Krankie is not so amused
To sniff one from her mates

It seems to me the answer’s plain.
Here’s what we have to do:
Just put a bloody cork in it
And scrag a pol or two.

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