A Pfizer executive said on Monday that neither she nor other Pfizer officials knew whether its COVID-19 vaccine would stop transmission before entering the market in late 2020. The Epoch Times has more.
Member of the European Parliament, Rob Roos, asked during a session: “Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market? Did we know about stopping immunization before it entered the market?”
Pfizer’s Janine Small, president of international developed markets, said in response: “No … You know, we had to … really move at the speed of science to know what is taking place in the market.”
Roos, of the Netherlands, argued in a Twitter video Monday that following Small’s comments to him, millions of people around the world were duped by pharmaceutical companies and governments.
“Millions of people worldwide felt forced to get vaccinated because of the myth that ‘you do it for others,’” Roos said. “Now, this turned out to be a cheap lie” and “should be exposed,” he added.
— Rob Roos MEP
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The Epoch Times notes that in late 2020 the Food and Drug Administration wrote that there were no data available to determine whether the vaccine would prevent transmission and for how long. Around the same time, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said his firm was “not certain” if those who receive its vaccine will be able to transmit COVID-19 to other people.
However, during spring 2021 a number of people, including President Joe Biden and his Chief Medical Adviser Anthony Fauci, claimed vaccinated people are “dead ends” for the virus. “When you get vaccinated, you not only protect your own health and that of the family but also you contribute to the community health by preventing the spread of the virus throughout the community,” Fauci said. Fauci later rowed back on these claims, saying that the vaccine prevents severe disease, hospitalisation and death from COVID-19. However, U.S. vaccination policy has remained wedded to the notion that it stops transmission, with mandates and coercion routinely imposed by public authorities and employers citing federal Government advice. Many of these policies, including the ban on unvaccinated visitors entering the United States, remain in force.
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No shit Sherlock. But we must get it, to stop transmission, the biggest con ever. I remember reading an article early on saying that stopping transmission was not part of this product. Hence one of my many reasons for refusing to take part in the experiment.
The Sec. of State for Health should now be asked to explain how those claims about vaccine preventing transmission came about, and who made them. Because this is a huge deal. Ordinary people believed that they were ‘following the science’ but clearly that is not the case.
Yep. This is the foundation on what ALL of the mandates ( get it so you can’t pass it on to your vulnerable patients/residents ) were based on and what millions of people were emotionally blackmailed into believing so that they wouldn’t kill grandma. It was a mainstay of the massive PsyOp, but because the trials NEVER showed this effect the governments worldwide had to invent this non-fact…and run with it for all it was worth. The children never had to get jabbed so they could provide a “wall of immunity” for granny and grandpa. This has been long known. But it’s what happens when you use the BBC as your only source of information.
She actually said:” Regarding the question about ‘Did we know about stopping humanisation before excentuarating the market?’ No! We had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market….” followed by 2 minutes of very similar senseless waffle.
Make of that what you want.
Original video in here:
https://2ndsmartestguyintheworld.substack.com/p/bombshell-fraud-watch-as-pfizer-executive
Birx admitted as much some time ago while boasting about lying to Trump.
https://www.westernjournal.com/dr-birxs-bombshell-vaccine-admission-knew-vaccines-wouldnt-protect-infection/
Did your auto correct go ga-ga there because I heard none of that in the video?
Listen to the video. Those are her exact words.
I know you heard immunization, I also thought she might have said, let alone meant that, but it is not what she said. Same for excuriarating or something similarly senseless.
I think she just took the piss out of the MEP and made up some senseless waffle on the fly, so that she really couldn’t be held to account for anything but waffling senseless stuff.
Nope. She’s definitely saying “immunization before entry to the market”. It must be her Welsh accent. But it still makes no sense her saying “immunization” though. How would any vaccine prevent immunization?? The woman is talking gobbledegook and as a Pfizer stand in for Bourla I can only think her lack of articulation and basic communication skills is down to her being anxious about being put on the spot. She shows a lack of professionalism here and her nervousness is plain as day.
As a Welshman, I’m sure she said ‘immunisation’. I stopped watching as soon as I heard mention of Imperial College.
This also ties in with the blurb from the Welsh State Political Directorate – more commonly known as the Senedd – which are now promoting jabs on the basis that they increase immunity in those at highest risk of COVID-19.
Immunisation defintion here and the same source for immunity
We all know that the jab doesn’t prevent transmission or infection.
It was a complete word-salad making no sense whatsoever; I wondered if it was deliberate, whereby Pfizer could not be held to account. Unless she had advance notice of the question, it would actually be quite difficult to make up such a paragraph of gobbledegook.
I very much doubt she spent today being carpeted by Bourla (if he’s out of his sick-bed yet!)
That nervousness is what happens when you lie; if you’re not a practised liar that is.
She might as well have said dehumanise. :>)
Whether or not the vaccine prevents transmission is of course, or should be, a game changer as far as policy is concerned. A much larger point to be made, however, is adds to the mounting evidence that we have been repeatedly lied to, simply to encourage the uptake of these unlicenced products.
I think the reason authoritative figures can get away with lying is they have an ever-present safety net: they can always fall back on the excuse that “so little was known about the vaccines / virus at the time”, and that it was an “ongoing learning process”. But if this was the case then why were statements such as “safe and effective” and a “dead end for the virus” made so stridently and with such apparent certainty?
Contrary to you, Piers Morgan&co, there never was or ever will be a case for giving it to people not at risk of severe disease, in particular children, for mandating it or any other vaccine/gene therapy, for any nudging, coercion, villification and discrimination of those who exercised their God given natural right of bodily autonomy and refused consent and getting it.
https://brownstone.org/articles/the-real-reason-vaccine-mandates-are-wrong/
https://metatron.substack.com/p/piers-morgan
The constant claims of ‘so little is known’, ‘the virus changes every day’, etc. were in themselves more than enough reason not to mandate a damn thing! The mandates were always illegal, but they were not even based on anything. Even if the claims of, e.g., the masks and the vaxxes working were 100% true, that does not justify the breach of fundamental rights. But when the claims were based on crossed-fingers and open admissions of ‘we hope, but we don’t really know’, it’s outright scandalous. Ridiculous that so many people went along with it.
They knew enough about the virus to downgrade it to a Low Consequence Infectious Disease with low mortality rates about a week BEFORE they imposed the first lockdown.
They knew which groups were most affected by it; which groups were most likely to die. And it was basically the very elderly/frail; people with multiple co-morbidities (generally obesity related); and the immune-compromised, often due to chemotherapy.
The internet does not forget.
We still have the receipts. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/18/coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-is-95percent-effective-plans-to-submit-to-fda-in-days.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-95-effective-in-final-results-company-to-seek-approval-within-days-11605699996
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/health/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-safety/index.html
The severe cases data acc/inc-identally had a similar 90ish% rate but it was clearly presented as the sideshow to the 95% transmission reduction result.
We now also know that both were bogus and manipulated, of course, not to speak of the safety ‘data’ and claim.
I took particular note of the story from the other day that showed how detailed the propaganda (marketing) plan was to encourage the vaccine hesitant to get their vaccine. “The vaccine will stop spread and infection” message (i.e. protect Grandma) was replete in all the “testimonials” that emerged from this effort.
This article isn’t the perfect place to post this graph, but anyhow:
I’m wondering if the summertime excess deaths phenomenon has ended, and if it has, what does that mean.
I think it’s good to not let this phase of the conversation just fizzle out.
As of last week, it hadn’t in NL. The week before, with a little sleight of hand, they had a figure which was on the ‘expected’ number of deaths range. For the week ending 2 October, deaths had hit excess again. The newest numbers should be out Friday. But no, the trend was still holding, I expect to see an uptick coinciding with the new vaxx rollout, but as they now have a bit of the lurgy going around, it will conveniently be the lurgy wot done it. They don’t bother to mention vaxx status unfortunately, but as most excess deaths are in the elderly and people in long-term care, I’d guess the majority have 4 or 5 pokes under their belt.
That is a mis-quote by Epoch Times. Watch it again. He asked about *transmission*. Her response included “stopping *immunization*”. So SHE can’t even make sense when answering a very straight-forward question. How can one “stop immunization”??
I thought this was common knowledge actually. Or maybe just to us lot on here. I’ve known for many months it didn’t stop transmission and was never shown to in the trial data. This is the lie that the Vaxpass is based on. Now it has been shown to be a lie it does kind of blow any kind of rationale for reinstating the vaxpass out of the water. But here in the EU anyway, they have this hated tool of stigmatization and ostracization waiting in the wings. But this is how we now KNOW, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this hated symbol of division and control, has nothing whatsoever to do with stopping a virus spreading. It’s all just laughably all out in the open now, the desperate and power-hungry *@!k&$s!!
Unfortunately this will not help us at all. They were late in getting the nazti pass through parliament here in NL, it wasn’t until October 2021. They knew full well, and had known for months, that the poison did not stop transmission or infection. There was even some fuss about the fact that someone who had a government PCR test that was positive for the lurgy, would nevertheless keep their green check in their natzi pass and would legally be allowed to go anywhere they wanted and spread to their heart’s content. The RIVM kept saying everyone with symptoms should test and stay home if positive, but it could only make a recommendation, it was the government that had the power to change the pass and refused. Coalition partner Death66 is on a mission from Brussels to destroy this country and as Rutte is desperate to hold onto power, he follows D66’s orders and everyone else in the cabinet and all coalition MPs in parliament followed Rutte’s. As did the courts, who obviously hold the Constitution in as much contempt as the government.
Who is Death 66?
Coalition party Democraten 66, now officially D66. They were founded in 1966 by a bunch of students who wanted to get rid of the back-room-deals culture of politics – and now are the no. 1 perpetrator. Be careful when you fight monsters…
They are sometimes called Demons666, recently I saw someone call them Dood66 (Death 66). Makes sense, they are the drivers of various ‘please top yourselves’ legislative proposals, including the ‘completed life’ bill – something along the lines of if you’re over 75 and bored of life, we believe you should receive support in leaving it.
The current party leader, Sigrid Kaag, got herself a 2-hour documentary in January 2021, 2 months before the general elections, on the Dutch broadcasting carrier. It undoubtedly had a lot to do with the party’s success and is considered by many to have been unacceptable party advertising not given to other parties.
Kaag is now minister of finance – when MPs become a minister they have to put their investments and properties at arm’s length, usually in a foundation. She did so, but is not listed as the UBO and claimed she didn’t know she was supposed to be… clearly incapable of understanding what the ‘ultimate’ stands for. A liar or an f-wit as fin min, neither is a good look.
They are a despicable party – claim to believe in referendums, more direct participation – except when it comes to European affairs, then the plebs need to listen to their betters. They are also the primary drivers of the intentionally created energy crisis. Orwell so had these people in mind when he was speaking of pigs and equality.
If it doesn’t immunise, it doesn’t stop transmission, so same thing.
But more important… doesn’t immunise means not effective.
So although Roos asked specifically about transmission her answer confirmed what many of us know, it’s not effective either.
The claimed 95% effective is relative effectiveness not absolute. Most people think it means 95% of people vaccinated won’t get it, or maybe they only have a 5% chance of getting it compared to unvaccinated. But Pfizer’s trials – so-called – showed that the risk of getting CoVid if unvaccinated was 0.88%.
In other news water is wet. Still of the view that Fenton is right on vaccine efficacy.
It was well known by anyone who could be bothered to read about it that the pfisser trial for the poison did not measure infection and transmission (nor prevention of serious disease and death), presumably because they knew full well that antibodies elicited in the blood would never stop a virus that enters through the airways. The Dutch RIVM warned the government in December 2020 not to make claims about the vaxx stopping infections as this had not been established.
The point that pfisser was more or less honest in the EU parliament is a bit of a damp squib. What I really want answered is who determined the pivot to the claim that the poison did stop transmission, that started arising in Feb/March 2021? Was it politicians jumping the gun, based on scientists who thought they saw a slowing in transmission rather than the more likely natural decline in infections after a spreading wave, which had been exacerbated by the vaxx? I believe that in early spring 2021 there was a genuine belief that the vaxx was slowing transmission, even though there was a logical explanation for the drop and they completely ignored the clear steep rise in infections that accompanied vaxx rollouts everywhere.
Was the pivot to claiming victory something that took on a life of its own, was it politicians knowingly going against the advice of scientists who said these claims could not be made, was it pharmaceutical companies realising they were on to the biggest cash cow in their history, with zero liability, who started the rumours and nudged the politicians? That is the question I want answered. Pfisser’s admission merely places the ball back in the court of the politicians who claimed the garbage worked – the finger pointing game has begun.
I appreciate Mr Roos’ input, but it would be of great value if he would make the point that the Dutch Constitution does not have a provision saying it can be trampled underfoot 50 ways from Sunday as long as ‘you’re doing it for others’. Whether or not the poison worked, there was never any justification for the breaches of the Constitution and fundamental rights so wholeheartedly embraced by both politicians and huge parts of the population.
The evil genius behind this scam and poisoning AIDS patients with AZT and much of the damage done by Big Pharma over the last 40+ years is Fauci. Everyone must read ‘The Real Anthony Fauci’ by Robert F Kennedy Jr.
Yes, didn’t he pull pretty much the exact same stunt? Public emergency, no time to wait and do proper research, prohibited use of known drugs to try to treat HIV, as otherwise he couldn’t push his then favoured poison AZT?
Yes, the same playbook exactly, including stopping clinical trials “because it would be unethical to keep giving subjects placebos”.
For those who don’t have time to read the 480-page (!) book, here are 18 provocative and important excerpts I highlighted. A couple of these excerpts are about the AIDS/AZT controversy.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/no-time-to-read-the-real-anthony
It’s worth reading the whole book; to ensure you are totally pissed off with the poisoner Fauci and all his evil behaviour
Don’t understand the downtick? Any ideas?
The myth that it stops transmission is also at the basis of the whole targeting of asymptomatic ( a.k.a healthy ) people and the mass testing. The ‘vaccine stops transmission’ lie had to be given legs otherwise there’d be less fear, less testing, less adherence to restrictions and importantly, less uptake of the jab. People were brainwashed into believing, for the first time ever, that they could be ill and not even be aware of it and then pass it on to loved ones or vulnerable people in their care. And *so many* took leave of their senses and actually swallowed such gumpf. So I’ve no idea where this narrative/lie originated but it obviously got traction and was integral to the whole vax campaign. Yet another example of governments the world over blatantly ignoring the data.
Incidentally, why do you say “pfisser”?
Mogs “pfisser/ pfizzer” is the more polite way of saying – pisser.
This historical overview of the birth of pharma gives insight into just how the system was designed to be corrupt from its inception.
The current shenanigans are just a continuation of its long history.
https://theirishsentinel.com/2022/09/25/the-history-of-the-pharma-cartel/
Next question for Roos to ask…”What is actually in the injections?…
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/47/95
The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission???
Well of course it does. We have this on the authority of no lesser God than the great Professor Whitty himself. Here he is on 28 April 2021:
PHE data show up to 50% reduction in transmission of COVID from first vaccine.
https://twitter.com/CMO_England/status/1387461259713470464
And Whitty wouldn’t tell a lie or untruth, would he?
Up to 50% reduction in transmission is the same as Does not prevent transmission. Considering other well-known truths (read: well popularized propaganda … ahem … statements) about COVID, this pretty much means It’s bloody f***in useless. As we all used to be told, COVID grows exponentially. Up to 50% is a linear reduction. Hence, exponential growth will kill us one day later. Not exactly helpful.
Isn’t ‘Up to’ another way of expressing zero?
Up to 50% means the actual reduction is somewhere in the interval [0, 50]. But as 50% reduction already means It’s useless, I intentionally skipped that.
Yes, 50% reduction doesn’t stop everyone coming into contact with it.
But my larger point is that Whitty is a liar.
In my opinion, a more detailed look at his weasel-worded statement just emphasizes that. That’s why I tried to provide one.
They’ll be saying next that masks don’t prevent transmission.
0% is “up to 50%”
I don’t even know how this is news tbh, although the more evidence that debunks the ”vaccines stop you spreading it to others” the better I suppose. Didn’t Boris Johnson himself say that the jabs do not stop you getting it or spreading it? And laughably he was the one that introduced mandates for healthcare staff!
https://rumble.com/voejct-boris-johnson-vaccines-dont-stop-spread-of-covid.html
Didn’t Bourla himself declare 2 doses of the ”vaccine” offered limited protection “if any”?
https://odysee.com/@Cephun:3/Pfizer-CEO-Albert-Bourla-on-vaccine-efficacy:0
And did not Bill Gates have to admit that the ”vaccines” do not block transmission?
https://www.rebelnews.com/bill_gates_admits_covid_19_vaccines_dont_stop_viral_transmission
Even CDC’s Welensky even admitted this MONTHS ago. So I don’t understand why this is news and has everybody been under a rock? Again, these are the things that only those who don’t rely on MSM to inform them will know because it’s information that’s being withheld, despite the fact many *very* high profile people are saying the same thing. Step away from your TV sets, sheeple!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-director-covid-vaccines-cant-prevent-transmission-anymore/ar-AASDndg
It’s not news to us, but looks as though it is news to a lot of other people. The twitter views are over 8.5million. I thought at the time he said it, that Boris Johnson had unintentionally let the cat out of the bag. I wonder now whether he was just covering his backside.
Yes, he went on to say that it’s very effective at preventing severe illness and death. So that’s why everyone in the NHS who is of working age and has next to no risk of getting seriously ill should be mandated to get it then. As well as badgering all of the rest of the public who are under 70yrs old, oh and don’t forget the kids who may inadvertently kill granny by spreading a disease that they can still spread even when jabbed. Err….?! Spot the obvious nonsensical claptrap!
It really was like an exercise in who still had 2 functioning neurons to rub together. And now especially….anybody still rocking up for jab no. 4 or 5 ( I’ve lost track tbh ) needs their bloody head read as they’re a lost cause!
Yes, as someone once wrote about me on the BBC comments sections before I was banned: they should give their heads a wobble. Mind you, that could be risky with all the prions that might have built up in their brains.
When I saw and heard that interview of Rob Roos, broadcast last night by GBN in Mark Steyn’s show (first item here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMFrOIebS0k), it did not surprise me at all. In the original NHS leaflet sent to me in March ’21 to promote it’s use, it said: “we do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus”. Maybe they now know, but keep quiet about it. Reading between the lines in that leaflet, and other factors, I decided not to use it – and I’m glad that I made that decision.
As is well known here, there have been a certain amount of blatant lying about the “safety and efficacy” of the product promoted, in various forms of transmission by the usual suspects. The issues under consideration have been used to attempt to introduce methods which are a gross conflict with normal Human Rights, to start with.
In addition to this story at The Daily Sceptic, The Epoch Times, Zero Hedge, The Blaze and Citizens Free Press among other “alternative media” websites have now placed this story at the top of their websites as well. This is how you get around the “gatekeepers of the news.”
In my Substack effort to further highlight this “scandalous” story, I highlight the fact that Tucker Carlson also did a big piece on this last night. He had Mr. Roos as a guest on his show. Tucker’s show reaches more than 4 million viewers and is the No.1-rated primetime news/commentary show in North America.
Is the needle on all the false Covid narratives belatedly being moved? Maybe. It certainly seems that way to me.
https://billricejr.substack.com/p/tucker-carlson-tonight-publicizes
The Zero Hedge article on this has already gotten 120,000 page views (and rapidly growing). The hundreds of Reader Comments are fascinating and encouraging to read. It seems like the unsinkable Titanic (the vaccine narrative of “safe and effective”) is rapidly taking on water.
I just checked again. The Zero Hedge article has already generated more than 1,600 (!) “reader comments.”
Latest update on the Zero Hedge article: 280,000 (!) reads/visits and 3,000 comments.
I’ve just visited a food court in Bangkok and this sticker was displayed on every stall. In the UK and other Western nations, the ‘vaccine’ game is up but other parts of the world are not so lucky, here, they’re clearly progressing the plan to make ‘vaccines’ a condition of economic productivity. A very sad and alarming thing to see.
I haven’t seen this in Phuket
What an embarrassment this period of history has been. Embarrassing for the oligarchs who thought they could magic a pandemic out of thin air and then use it to forever alter the social contract. Embarrassing for Big Pharma, whose shoddy snake-oil-salesman methods have now been brought out into the light for all the world to see. Embarrassing for the politicians forced to pass and defend nonsensical laws that defied basic logic. And embarrassing for the members of the public who fell for it. It’s up to us, the non-embarrassed, to never let any of them live it down.
Well done Rob Roos for this well-placed righteous indignation. However, anyone paying attention knew this was the case at the time they were released to the public. Better late than never, but hundreds of millions of people have been poisoned in the meantime…
It’s so nice those who rule us are catching up with what the people they rule knew from the start and said so but were told to shut up.
I can’t cope with the pandemic of former conspiracy theories and fake news/misinformation that are now reality.
Maybe it’s a dream.
Pfizer admits they never tested it for spread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6eqsBfAeoM
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Forgiveness can only begin once justice has been served.”
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Here’s the Tucker Carlson segment with Rob Roos. I don’t know if there’s a full episode somewhere as this one seems to cut short before the end;
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BdiwTLOkIcNY/
Congrats to the Dutch MEP, but it was known very early on that the jabs wouldn’t stop transmission.
I clearly recall Mike Graham (TalkRadio) commenting when the jabs were first announced and before the mass-jab campaign really got started that “apparently they wouldn’t stop you getting Covid and wouldn’t stop you passing it on.” He laughed and said something like “so not a lot of good then.”
Of course that was before Ofcom told the Media that they had to promote the jabbing campaign.
We already know we’ve been lied to on an industrial scale by Big Pharma, the WHO, Public Health Bureaucrats and supposedly democratic Governments.
What we want to know is when the prosecutions will start.
Does anyone know of an organised group or organisation that is working to bring the Pharmaceutical companies to court for fraud, and/or a group which is seeking to reverse the law which keeps the Pharmaceutical giants free of liability for deaths and injuries due to their vaccines?
Pfizer clearly stated when in8tially released the mRNA drug would not prevent you getting covid nor transmitting it. It did not contribute to herd immunity. It would help prevent severity & hospitalizations in 60% of cases. It was public health officials, politicians, activists and media that stated and pushed the lie It would stop transmission in 100% of cases. It was public health officials in US that changed the definition of vaccine so people automatically ass7med like all vacc8nes, it would prevent you getting the virus. This had to be all planned for all western countries to be lock step in their actions.
Big Pharma never contradicted those lies and have been hiding safety data. They just kept taking the money. Pfizer also sabotaged their trial at the end of March 21 by unblinding the trial and offering injections to the control group. There were more deaths in the vaccine group than the placebo group at that point, but the numbers weren’t large enough to be statistically significant. Surely, it was imperative to keep the trial going. Now, there are unexplained excess deaths in countries across the globe. Big Pharma were and are a major part of the plan, whatever it is.
I managed to forget the link in the News Roundup to the site where there is a clip of Bourla saying there was evidence the injection did stop transmission.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-evolution-of-the-bourla-virus
So you have the Pfizer jab, are told it will stop onward transmission and then you innocently give the virus to aged Auntie Joan. who subsequently dies. How many Auntie Joans have died because of this ignorance?