The Sceptic: Kathryn Porter on the Lies of the Green Zealots

By Richard Eldred 14 November 2025 7:00 AM

In the Sceptic this week, host Laurie Wastell speaks to Kathryn Porter, energy consultant and commentator, for a deep dive on just how much Net Zero is costing us, why Ed Miliband’s claims about renewables are so laughable and how the Green Crusade is putting us at risk of blackouts this winter.

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EppingBlogger

9 months ago

Many of these renewables ventures are run in SPV companies and often they or their management companies are offshore. Why not intriduce a tax regime like the USA FIRPTA so profits on UK citus businesses are taxed here.

One could increase taxes well above Cor[poration Tax rates and North Sea taxation is a good example which could be used as a template for renewables.

I note that only five MPs voted against the Climate Change Act so we can see the Tories supported it. I have not got voting figures in front of me but I doubt not that the Tories were OK wityh all the Blair-Brown reforms to the constituition, despite what they say now to explain away their 14 years of failure.

I do not buy the idea the Tories based 14 years of decisions on wrong information from a biassed civil service. They could have read Daily Sceptic or any of a dozen substacks and blogs to know the truth. They didn’t. Remember “vote blue get green” – the Tories were globalist left of centre high spenders and remain so.

EppingBlogger

9 months ago

Reply to EppingBlogger

We need to ensure decommissioning funding is available for renewables. Removing solar panels, batteries and windmills and returning the land to its former productive state and also the sea bed will be very costly. SPVs and overseas control suggest many owners would walk away.

Grim Ace

10 months ago

Kathryn is brilliantly incisive. She should be the key adviser to government to kick their asses into action. Nuts zero and climate change theory is mental illness.

Norfolk-Sceptic

10 months ago

We, a Physics undergraduate workshop, discussed the ridiculous notion that windmills could power the country in 1974. Assuming all wind velocities are equally likely, it’s the cubic law of fluid flow that is the problem.

In addition to this knowledge, I was very wary of a Climate Announcement that followed a BBC Weather Forecast,in 2001. I thought at the time, if I hear any more about this it’s going to be trouble. What sort, I didn’t know, but it would be big trouble, given the type of misdirection that it included.

Michael Staples

10 months ago

If I were in government, Porter would receive a peerage and be appointed as Energy Minister. Imagine having someone in charge who understood the system.

Norfolk-Sceptic

10 months ago

Reply to Michael Staples

There have been plenty of vocal, knowledgeable folk, from well before 2008, pointing out that there’s no Climate Emergency, and that any fixing the climate isn’t financially feasible, or even possible. It’s what Climategate was all about.

Then, when the propaganda moved to promoting NET Zero policies, some thought fighting that would be easier to win as it involved problems that were closer to home, like money. But once the 2008 Climate Change Act arrived, it’s been Arts and Humanities graduates, especially PPE graduates, Implementing the law of the land, and the Laws of Physics can go and hang!

So it is with create courage and determination that Kathryn has managed to pierce this armour of stubbornness, caused by the unstoppable gravy train that successive governments have created.

NMSmith

10 months ago

Milliband needs to watch this video. Would be good if Kathryn Porter and Milliband could meet head on and debate his policies too.

TitterYeNot

10 months ago

Please excuse me for asking a technical question related to this podcast…

If we have to turn off wind farms due to over-capacity constraints in the grid, why not use that electricity to create Green Hydrogen using electrolysis?

All wind farms need to onshore their electricity, so build a small hydrogen electrolysis and storage plant nearby using cached clean water and the ‘waste’ electricity. Then you’ve at least got something to show for your money being spent in feathering the wind vanes.

Just a thought.

Norfolk-Sceptic

10 months ago

Reply to TitterYeNot

Most questions of this sort are usually answered when the numbers are calculated. Even if it is physically possible to get acceptable efficiencies with the current technologies, any self-sufficient project also has to pay for the the raw materials and construction of the equipment, the maintenance and repairs, the decommissioning, as well as any running costs. And the amount of time it is idle, not earning revenue, is also a major factor: only when the winds are strong, very strong, will they be in use.

For wind farms, some distance from civilisation, especially those out at sea, where bad weather can delay repairs, the obstacles are formidable. If they produced Green Hydrogen, it would mean more skills required, and storage facilities, and Hydrogen has no widespread customer base, especially as its use in homes isn’t that easy. A Methane leak is likely to leave through the normal ventilation, but Hydrogen will ‘stick’ to the ceiling as doorways don’t usually go up that far. It isn’t worth putting such effort and resources for such a small market.

TitterYeNot

10 months ago

This was one of the most educational podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Kathryn Porter is an amazingly knowledgeable speaker and sticks to her topics very well. Physics and finance is a very good set of knowledge, with the talent to research it. There’s a tremendous amount of info on Watt-Logic.com.

Wouldn’t it be a great day if people like Kathryn could debate with the likes of Milliband and the Civil Service quangos with their activist advisers. Even better to be an adviser to them.

Very impressed.

Norfolk-Sceptic

10 months ago

Reply to TitterYeNot

Your suggestion is too dangerous.

It could alter the future.

PeterM

10 months ago

Laurie, this was recorded the first week in October; is there any particular reason why it takes 6 weeks to be uploaded to podcast apps?

Marcus Aurelius knew

10 months ago

Far too many people telling us how to do things and nowhere near enough people actually doing things.

varmint

10 months ago

Reply to Marcus Aurelius knew

But it depends what the reason is why they are telling you things. Government do not tell you things because they want you to have the truth. neither do government funded scientists and experts, neither do ideologically aligned media. If you want accuracy and truth you go to people with no skin in any game.

Marcus Aurelius knew

10 months ago

Reply to varmint

💯

Arum

10 months ago

Reply to Marcus Aurelius knew

I dunno, the less that R Reeves does the happier I am

Norfolk-Sceptic

10 months ago

Reply to Marcus Aurelius knew

Deciding what to do is a very important activity, which usually Involves taking several options and deciding to do none of them, except one, because of specific reasons based on the known knowledge base. Though, it can be none that are chosen.

However, that isn’t the same as complaining, especially from a position of ignorance.

varmint

10 months ago

Kathryn is one of the most important experts on energy. Precisely because she is not ideologically aligned. She has no skin in any game. She is not part of the phony planet saving Group Think Class that will fill the publics head full of evidence free politicised junk. Science is not a belief system. It does not matter how many scientists or experts agree. It doesn’t require agreement. It requires ACCURACY. But in recent times the science round energy and climate has become a tool for IDEOLOGICAL ENFORCEMENT.
Kathryn reveals the true cost of energy, taking everything into account. The subsidies for the favoured renewables, the carbon carbon taxes heaped onto fossil fuels, the backup costs, etc etc, and in the end the true cost of pretending to save the planet is revealed. She will expose the lies that we have high prices because of gas.
Environmentalism that once was about genuine concern for the environment became blended with profit and turned into a marketplace. A market where entire industries were build around reducing emissions, and environmental concern became a commodity.
So then we come to NET ZERO that was waved through Parliament in 2019 with no cost/benefit analysis whatsoever… Read more »

varmint

10 months ago

Reply to varmint

Kathryn’s Website —Watt-Logic

Tonka Fairy

10 months ago

Reply to varmint

And she also looks like a very scary dominatrix. Outstanding woman.

varmint

10 months ago

Reply to Tonka Fairy

Eh —-I could not possibly comment. But I would be up for finding out how scary she is. —-wink

Norfolk-Sceptic

10 months ago

Reply to varmint

All that is needed to understand most of the misapplication of the Science is a good knowledge of A’ level Physics and Chemistry.

What I do admire is Kathryn’s thoroughness in investigating the financial figures, made unpleasant to digest because of the malevolent spirit in which they appear to have been concocted.

It is for that, that she needs to be lauded, and heard, of course.

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