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The World is Drowning, Says Antonio Guterres. Send Lots of Money

The "surging seas are coming for us all", UN chief Antonio Guterres warned last week. The only solution is to send him lots of money. Give me a break, says Chris Morrison: there's no evidence sea levels are rising fast.

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Last week the BBC reported that the United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres claimed the surging seas are coming for us all. This is a crazy human-caused situation, he fibbed, and we must listen to the “science”, the Guardian helpfully noted. In this case the science is the computer modelled sea level rise of 3-4 mm a year obtained from satellite telemetry which is three times higher than long term, accurate coastal tide gauges. A group of Malaysian geospatial scientists recently published a paper that highlighted the difficulties of measuring sea levels by satellite up to 10 kms off the coast, and concluded that results remained a “challenge”. It is becoming clear that the use of sea levels to scare human populations to accept Net Zero has, like local and global temperatures, more fiddles than the music cupboard at the Royal Philharmonic. This allows the emotional and unhinged Guterres – one year, global boiling, the next, global drowning – to flourish in the heavily-groomed mainstream media. It is somewhat concerning to know that the day job of this odd fellow is keeping World Peace.

Investigative climate science has descended to joke levels in most mainstream media. Guterres made his remarks in Tonga and said the Pacific islands are the most vulnerable area of the world. It is true that living on rocky outcrops and sand banks in the middle of a vast ocean might have some long term difficulties, but not it seems of late from rising sea levels.

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Michael Staples
Michael Staples
2 years ago

Clearly, you cannot have ‘Global Boiling’ without flood water to boil.

Old Brit
Old Brit
2 years ago

Alas, it has been shown, scientifically, that science is dependent upon funding, which goes to those scientists who promote the crowd belief. Guterres is head of the UN so of course he wants global governance

iconoclast
iconoclast
2 years ago
Reply to  Old Brit

If you want your bullshit meter to go off-scale read the following.

And bear in mind that if you are a supposed ‘scientist’ and you disagree then you could get cancelled and lose your nice university job and the like.

NASA’s Climate Change pronouncements swear by:
Scientific Consensus – NASA Science

It’s important to remember that scientists always focus on the evidence, not on opinions. Scientific evidence continues to show that human activities (primarily the human burning of fossil fuels) have warmed Earth’s surface and its ocean basins, which in turn have continued to impact Earth’s climate. This is based on over a century of scientific evidence forming the structural backbone of today’s civilization.

NASA Global Climate Change presents the state of scientific knowledge about climate change while highlighting the role NASA plays in better understanding our home planet. This effort includes citing multiple peer-reviewed studies from research groups across the world,1

iconoclast
iconoclast
2 years ago

Hi Chris,

What do you say about this video in the Guardian article reporting Fijian villages being overwhelmed by rising seas?

https://youtu.be/dl1R0u1_GMY

iconoclast
iconoclast
2 years ago
Reply to  iconoclast

Is the sea rising or is Fiji sinking?

iconoclast
iconoclast
2 years ago
Reply to  iconoclast

The world’s coastal residents are experiencing more extreme sea level rise than is widely appreciated because they are concentrated in places where the land is sinking rapidly, a study published Monday in Nature Climate Change has found.

Sinking land and rising seas: the dual crises facing coastal communities
National Geographic – By Madeleine Stone March 8, 2021
7 min read

Andante
Andante
2 years ago

UN General Secretary, Comrade Ayatollah Guterres one and only job is to deal with conflict situations around the world – not spouting rubbish about the weather changing. Right now he should be in Gaza/Israel, Russia/Ukraine, Bangaldesh, several countries in sub-saharan Africa plus Nagorno-Karabakh/Armenia etc. He doesn’t want to do that because the more conflict situations there are, the more refugees there are which means more work for his mates in UNHCR & IOM who can offload a lot of them into the the welcoming, migrant lovin’ EU; which helps to implement his ‘Global Pact for Migration’ that he issued in 2018.

The old bat
The old bat
2 years ago

A P.S. to my reply to JASA. Apparently the World Bank (!?) says the Maldives ‘could be’ overwhelmed by an extra meter of seawater rise by 2100. One can make any amount of silly statements about the distant future safe in the knowledge that no-one who heard them will be around to contradict them. The only thing we are drowning in is idiocy.

JASA
JASA
2 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Indeed. We’re living in clown world.

JASA
JASA
2 years ago

I’ve been checking the local forecast for an area near me for the weekend for over a week. It has changed regularly. Only yesterday morning it was forecasting clear blue sky (whole suns). Then through the day that changed steadily to worse and worse weather until it was heavy rain all day. It is now back to completely dry (0% chance of rain) with sunny spells all day.
Likewise with where I live. The forecast yesterday for today is completely wrong.
Their models can’t even predict a few hours ahead. It’s worse than guessing sometimes, if that is possible.
It’s nothing new, as I have been watching these weather predictions for years. If anything the forecasts are less accurate than they used to be.
So even if what they are saying about CO2 and sea levels and temperatures as a trend is correct (which clearly isn’t the case), models are just guess work and should be ignored. The word Science comes from the Latin word Scio I know. Ergo, models are not science as you know nothing from them.

bertieboy
bertieboy
2 years ago
Reply to  JASA

Spot on – weather forecasting is currently pointless. A couple of days back my Apple weather app predicted ZERO rain for the next 7 days. You’ve guessed it…. rained the same day and then the prediction for the next week completely changed!
In genuine science, on the hierarchy of scientific evidence, modelling is at the bottom together with expert opinion. As you say, not science. Science has method!

The old bat
The old bat
2 years ago
Reply to  JASA

You’d do better with a bit of seaweed. My memory is more than likely faulty, but I thought forecasts were more accurate 40/50 years ago than they are now, with all of their computer hardware.
My worry for the Maldives would be a tsunami hitting them, rather than mythical sea level rises.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

Pleasing to see that Chris Morrison’s patience is wearing thin with all this garbage.

“Suddenly the city of Oslo which expected on past performance to show a 28 cm fall in the sea level by 2100 is now faced with a 17 cm rise.”

The most important thing is – I won’t be here in 2100 so I couldn’t give a Flying F. I will live for today not a time I will never see.

RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

That’s a very important observation: The peope living in 2100 will need to solve their own problems. We cannot do this for them in 2024. I think the reason why certain politicians keep talking about problems for future generations we should worry about today is to distract us from the problems they’re creating for our generation.

Another useful property of future generation is that they won’t object to what these politicians are supposedly doing in their name today because they cannot yet object to it. It’s certainly more comfortable to be a spokesperson for someone incapable of having an own opinion than to have to deal with all these horribly opinionated real people.

NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
2 years ago

Remind me.
How many of these eco globalists own beach front homes like Obama?

Purpleone
Purpleone
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

All of ‘em

For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
2 years ago

My son holidayed in the Maldives earlier this year. He informed me that it is still above water despite forecasting in 1988 by the Maldivian authorities that rising seas could cover the nation within the next 30 years.

Hardliner
2 years ago

But it was covered! Initially, in grants and aid and other guilt money, and then in investment, and now in hotels and high rises and airports!comment image

Hester
Hester
2 years ago

I thought we were boiling? now we are drowning, what next? roasting?, freezing?
We pay this man a fortune to come out with this lot of rubbish? We must want our heads looking at.

JohnK
JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Perhaps he believes that we are ‘boiling frogs’!

Andante
Andante
2 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Evaporating! Global evaporation.

RW
RW
2 years ago
Reply to  Andante

I really like that.

varmint
varmint
2 years ago

This face that looks like a big bag of spanners is the voice of the UN Eco Communists using climate as their main tool to get control of the world’s wealth and resources. Despite everything they say about climate being a total pack of lies with not a shred of evidence or observations to back up their climate porn, they are getting away with it. Mainly because the general public, busy with work and family life don’t spend their time searching for information and opinions that don’t appear on their 6 O’Clock News. So since 70% of people eg get their news from the BBC, they are allowing themselves to be brainwashed and manipulated about a “climate crisis” for which no evidence exists and that is unsupported by any “Science”. ——I mean real “Science”. Not the “Official Science” that comes out of the mouths of the eco communists at the UN like the bag of spanners above, and at home by squirming UN lackeys like Miliband

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  varmint

That’s “Official $cience” I believe.

7941MHKB
7941MHKB
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Or “The Settled Science.”

Many have cheekily asked, if it is Settled and Government Approved, why is so much Taxpayer’s money pumped into yet more polished versions of the same, malodourous turd?

FerdIII
FerdIII
2 years ago

The Church of ‘The Warming’ a denomination within the Church of ‘The Science’.

I was told in the 1970s that New York would be under water by 1995. That prediction did not wear well.

You can pull out a calculator. If the Arctic melted, which it won’t, sea levels and ocean volumes would barely notice.

Needless to say, plant food has nothing to do with sea levels which have been slighly rising since the end of the last ice age, long before my mercedes was built. And at some point, they will stop rising and during the next cold cycle will recede.

10navigator
10navigator
2 years ago

At the risk of repeating myself, RAF Gan (Southernmost Maldive island at 0042 minutes South of the Equator) was 6ft AMSL (Above Mean Sea Level) the last time I landed there in 1974. Guess what? Yep, it’s listed on today’s aeronautical charts as 6ft AMSL. To think, we used to get PAID to visit there en-route to either Singapore or Hong Kong. Those were the days!

Hardliner
2 years ago
Reply to  10navigator

Do you happen to know if the chart measurements have been updated, and if so when? Are the aeronautical charts that you refer to based on Admiralty charts, and if so when were they last measured and updated for that area? Interesting data….but a risk that it might be ‘old’?

NeilParkin
NeilParkin
2 years ago
Reply to  Hardliner

Pleased to say that two minutes with Google confirms that Gan International Airport (formerly RAF Gan), is still 6ft AMSL today.

bertieboy
bertieboy
2 years ago
Reply to  10navigator

I don’t think the Maldives ‘got the memo’ a few years back with a dire warning that they were especially vulnerable to sea level change and would soon be underwater and disappear from view! Instead they invested in tourism and, if I’m remembering correctly, extended the main airport runway.

10navigator
10navigator
2 years ago
Reply to  bertieboy

Yes, in the 70s Gan runway was about 9,000 ft. (It’s now 11,000ft plus). Thundering down it in a fully laden 300,000lb VC10 at 140 plus knots at 4am with zero run off meant having huge faith in the ODM (Operating Data Manual) numbers, which stated that in the event of an abort, there was sufficient concrete left on which to stop!!
As an aside, a brilliant VC Captain chum was formerly a Vulcan captain. He said doubts were raised when studying the ODM for the a/c when he noted the front cover read; ‘Avro Vulcan. The Ultimate Deterrent (Mk 1).’

bertieboy
bertieboy
2 years ago
Reply to  10navigator

Thanks – interesting stuff!

….. ah – the Vulcan! Childhood memories flooding in. Living just a few miles from Hatfield in the early 60’s I have vivid boyhood memories of this iconic delta wing marvel in the sky and the noise which shook the ground!

stewart
stewart
2 years ago
Reply to  10navigator

May I ask, I presume you are not going off memory and have a written log somewhere or map of the time indicating this?

Not challenging, genuinely interested in knowing what documentary evidence there is demonstrating that there has been no see rise in the Maldives.

10navigator
10navigator
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I became quite familiar with Gan’s details having landed there on 68 occasions between 1972 and 1975 (when ‘sleepy’ Fred Mulley closed it down). I can assure my numbers are correct.

Dinger64
Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart
Solentviews
Solentviews
2 years ago

My guess is that Guterres was lined up for this post years ahead of his accession. He is the ideal place man. Not intellectually bright, not one to question, head still full of ‘socialist’ nonsense and (of course) a champagne socialist.

Perfect in every way for those who want to push for a Global government.

Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago

“Comme disent les vieux cons”

Courtesy of Grand Corps Malade

NeilParkin
NeilParkin
2 years ago

I wish this man would just shut the hell up. He’s like Chicken Licken. ‘The sky is falling, the seas are boiling’. What a bloody fool.

Marcus Aurelius knew
Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

He’s there because he’s a fool.

Kone Wone
Kone Wone
2 years ago

The UN is infested with fools.

iconoclast
iconoclast
2 years ago
Reply to  Kone Wone

Of course.

It cannot be seen to do anything useful – that might be contrary to US foreign policy.

Doesn’t the US bankroll the UN to a disproportionate extent?

Dinger64
Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

I honestly think that he’s got some serious mental problems and should be seeing a psychiatrist for assessment not running the UN!

varmint
varmint
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

With propaganda the whole idea is not to “shut up”. You must keep it going day and night. Doing so pulverises the brains of the general public who could never imagine that anyone could lie to them on such a massive scale.

NeilParkin
NeilParkin
2 years ago
Reply to  varmint

As with Chicken Licken, people get tired very quickly of these false calls to action. As Lincoln said ‘you can’t fool all the people all of the time’.

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