Here’s something that’s been bugging me. How did U.S. intelligence analysts pick up on what they deemed a dangerous novel virus in China at a time when there’s no good evidence China had picked up on it or was concerned? How did they spot the signal in all the noise of a normal Chinese flu season?
U.S. intelligence officials have admitted in various media reports to tracking the coronavirus outbreak in China since mid-November 2019, and even briefing NATO and Israel at the time. Yet at no point has any detail been provided on what caused them to take this unusual action.
Here’s what we’ve been told, as gathered by DRASTIC’s Gilles Demaneuf. ABC News on April 9th 2020 reported information from “four sources” that “as far back as late November, U.S. intelligence officials were warning that a contagion was sweeping through China’s Wuhan region, changing the patterns of life and business and posing a threat to the population”.
These concerns “were detailed in a November intelligence report by the military’s National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI)”, citing two officials familiar with the report. The report was “the result of analysis of wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images”. One of the sources said: “Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event” and that “it was then briefed multiple times to” the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s Joint Staff and the White House.
The ABC report adds that “China’s leadership knew the epidemic was out of control” and the U.S. President was briefed in January.
From that warning in November, the sources described repeated briefings through December for policymakers and decision-makers across the federal Government as well as the National Security Council at the White House. All of that culminated with a detailed explanation of the problem that appeared in the President’s Daily Brief of intelligence matters in early January, the sources said…
“The timeline of the intel side of this may be further back than we’re discussing,” the source said of preliminary reports from Wuhan. “But this was definitely being briefed beginning at the end of November as something the military needed to take a posture on.”
The NCMI report was made available widely to people authorised to access intelligence community alerts. Following the report’s release, other intelligence community bulletins began circulating through confidential channels across the Government around Thanksgiving, the sources said. Those analyses said China’s leadership knew the epidemic was out of control even as it kept such crucial information from foreign governments and public health agencies.
However, the media reports are inconsistent. The same day (April 9th), NBC News published the following report, stating that “there was no assessment that a lethal global outbreak was brewing at that time”.
The intelligence came in the form of communications intercepts and overhead images showing increased activity at health facilities, the officials said. The intelligence was distributed to some federal public health officials in the form of a “situation report” in late November, a former official briefed on the matter said. But there was no assessment that a lethal global outbreak was brewing at that time, a defence official said.
Air Force Gen. John Hyten, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that he did not see intelligence reports on the coronavirus until January.
We went back and looked at everything in November and December. The first indication we have were the reports out of China in late December that were in the public forum. And the first intel reports I saw were in January.
The NCMI itself denied to ABC the existence of the “product/assessment” i.e., the report being referred to (though some have suggested a report that wasn’t technically an intelligence ‘product’ likely existed).
According to a Times of Israel report of April 16th 2020, the U.S. intelligence community “became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of [November] and drew up a classified document”. The report also claims that China was aware at the time: “Information on the disease outbreak was not in the public domain at that stage – and was known only apparently to the Chinese Government.” An Israeli Channel 12 report of the same date claimed U.S. intelligence was ‘following the spread’ in mid-November and even briefed NATO and Israel at the time – though, somewhat contradictorily, said the information “did not come out of the Chinese regime”.
A secret U.S. intelligence report, which warned of an “unknown disease” in Wuhan, China, was sent to only two of its allies: NATO and Israel. In the second week of November, U.S. intelligence recognised that a disease with new characteristics was developing in Wuhan, China. They followed its spread, when at that stage this classified information was not known to the media and did not come out of the Chinese regime either.
These media reports from unnamed intelligence officials referring to undisclosed briefing documents are clearly not all consistent. The Times of Israel claim that the Chinese Government knew in November is particularly odd as that report says it draws its information directly from the Channel 12 report, which states the opposite. The ABC News claim that the Chinese Government was aware in November of an “out of control” epidemic that was “changing patterns of life” but this information was kept secret is also odd. How could an “out of control” epidemic that was “changing patterns of life” be kept secret? When the virus came to light at the end of December it was accompanied by a flurry of social media activity in China. Where is the social media activity from November, of people talking about an “out of control” epidemic that was “changing patterns of life and business”? Where are the satellite images showing these impacts on hospitals and social life? None have been produced, though this would be straightforward to do.
This leads to a crucial question. Did China know in November? I had previously assumed so, but looking more objectively, I’ve not seen any hard evidence it did. The 2021 US intelligence report on Covid origins says China “probably did not have foreknowledge that SARS-CoV-2 existed before WIV researchers isolated it after public recognition of the virus in the general population”. But was it aware of an unusual outbreak of unknown etiology earlier? I can’t see we’ve been shown evidence it was.
Apart from the claims in the above media reports (which, as noted, are largely denied by defence officials), the only evidence we have comes from the 2022 Senate minority staff report, which has links to U.S. intelligence, especially biodefence bigwig Robert Kadlec. This report suggests that China became aware of a leak at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in November 2019 and, at that time, began working on a vaccine. But it gives no real evidence for this claim, just vague statements about when safety training occurred and insinuations about the timing of vaccine development. It also, notably, puts the attention wholly on Chinese research and the WIV and not at all on U.S. research, leading to suspicions it is a ‘limited hangout‘ from the intelligence community and an exercise in attention diversion.
It’s worth noting that Colonel Dr. Robert Kadlec, who appears to be behind the Senate report, was the first Homeland Security Director of Biosecurity Policy under President G.W. Bush and a mastermind of the early pandemic simulations, including 2001’s Dark Winter. When COVID-19 struck, Kadlec became the top emergency preparedness official co-ordinating the response from both the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the federal Government. He is thus a central figure in the U.S. biodefence establishment that brought us lockdowns and cannot be considered an independent or reliable source of information.
The best independent evidence we currently have that China knew earlier than the end of December are the reports Gilles Demaneuf relays from two U.S. scientists, Lawrence Gostin and Ian Lipkin, that in mid-December Chinese scientist contacts mentioned an unusual virus outbreak to them. This is hardly early, though, and is weeks after mid-November.
There are many reasons to think, as per the Channel 12 media briefing, that China did not know before December. For example, the evident lack of concern the Chinese Government had about the virus right up until around January 23rd. As late as January 14th China’s experts were telling the World Health Organisation they weren’t even sure the virus transmitted between humans! It’s hard to credit that, but it still shows how unalarmed they were.
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China
— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) January 14, 2020. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG
There is also the absence of previous public health alerts like the one that appeared on December 31st 2019 from the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission, plus, as noted, the lack of any social media activity about an outbreak in November. In addition, there is the apparent failure to sequence the virus earlier than the end of December, and then in a private lab, which also puts the idea that China was developing a vaccine from November on shaky ground. And there is the fact that Chinese authorities appeared to believe the Huanan wet market was a plausible origin for the virus during January until they investigated the theory and debunked it.
Sure, there may be alternative explanations for some of these things. For instance, the wet market story may have been a way of supporting the bizarre initial claim that there didn’t appear to be human-to-human transmission, which it’s hard to believe Chinese scientists ever really believed, given how implausible it is and the fact that there did seem to be some awareness of a wider outbreak among Chinese scientists during December. On the other hand, the leaked Chinese Government report from February 2020 appears to show officials hurriedly looking back to see what was going in hospitals in October and November, with no indication they knew at the time – and also no indication of an “out of control” epidemic. Perhaps this too is a clever fake. But is all of it fake? And in any case, where is the actual positive evidence that China knew?
The apparent cluelessness of the Chinese contrasts strongly with what U.S. intelligence officials have said they knew in November, as per the above media briefings which state that U.S. intelligence analysts were ‘following the spread’ since mid-November and that the United States’ military, Government and allies were being kept informed. Perhaps some of this is exaggerated by intelligence officials trying to defend themselves from charges of missing the early signs of the pandemic. But all of it?
Furthermore, there is a very telling report from Dr. Michael Callahan, whom Dr. Robert Malone has described as “the top U.S. Government/CIA expert in both biowarfare and gain of function research”, and who was already in Wuhan at the beginning of January “under cover of his Harvard Professor appointment”. He told National Geographic that he had gone to Singapore to track the virus during November and December. He claims to have been tipped off about the virus by “Chinese colleagues”, but this is very vague and may not be true.
In early January, when the first hazy reports of the new coronavirus outbreak were emerging from Wuhan, China, one American doctor had already been taking notes. Michael Callahan, an infectious disease expert, was working with Chinese colleagues on a longstanding avian flu collaboration in November when they mentioned the appearance of a strange new virus. Soon, he was jetting off to Singapore to see patients there who presented with symptoms of the same mysterious germ.
There are two other striking contrasts between the initial approaches of the United States and China that are worth noting. Firstly, U.S. intelligence and biodefence people were highly alarmist about the new virus straight off in January while the Chinese Government remained apparently calm until around January 23rd. It’s still not entirely clear why China reversed policy at that point; ostensibly it was connected with acknowledging human-to-human transmission, but that is unlikely to be the real reason.
Secondly, U.S. scientists and intelligence officials latched onto a wet market theory that they knew to be false given that U.S. intelligence had been following the outbreak since November and that Chinese authorities themselves debunked the theory very early on. Despite this, some U.S. scientists, including those involved in the Fauci lab leak cover-up, have stuck to it doggedly since.
It is also of significance that U.S. intelligence officials and scientists have since the very start actively blocked any attempt to investigate the possibility of an engineered virus, a lab leak or early spread of the virus (though a few in U.S. intelligence seem to have been willing to investigate, albeit apparently with an agenda to exclusively blame China). Senior Government officials have been reported as repeatedly warning colleagues “not to pursue an investigation into the origin of COVID-19” because it would “‘open a can of worms’ if it continued”.
Despite squashing the investigations into origins, U.S. intelligence officials have insisted time and again that the virus definitely or likely wasn’t engineered and even backed the wet market theory months after it was discredited by the Chinese themselves. On April 30th 2020 the office of the U.S. Director of National Intelligence (which at that time was in vacancy) issued a statement that: “The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified.” On May 5th 2020, CNN reported a briefing from a Five Eyes intelligence source stating unequivocally that the coronavirus outbreak “originated in a Chinese market”.
Intelligence shared among Five Eyes nations indicates it is “highly unlikely” that the coronavirus outbreak was spread as a result of an accident in a laboratory but rather originated in a Chinese market, according to two Western officials who cited an intelligence assessment that appears to contradict claims by President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
There is of course no way that genetic modification could have been ruled out, either then or since, given the lack of similar natural viruses and animal reservoirs and the fact that the knowhow to make the modifications certainly exists. For all its faults, the 2022 Senate report was the first intelligence-associated document to treat an engineered agent as a serious possibility – though notably to try to put the blame entirely on China. American scientists are simply not talking, however – an evasiveness that led Jeffrey Sachs to disband the Covid origins taskforce which formed part of the Lancet Covid commission he was chairing, perceiving severe conflicts of interest and a basic lack of cooperation from U.S. scientists, who appeared to be hiding something.
My fear is that there aren’t many good ways to explain all this. Why was U.S. intelligence following a potentially dangerous virus outbreak in China in November, weeks before there is evidence China was aware of the situation or concerned about it? How did it spot such a signal in the noise of an early flu season? As Gilles Demaneuf points out:
Satellite imaging would not allow us to distinguish between a bad seasonal pneumonia outbreak and the beginning of a coronavirus outbreak occurring at the same time. It is therefore likely that only part of the data that NCMI observed, such as communications at specific hospitals, was indeed linked clearly to something worse than a bad but still standard pneumonia.
But of course – and this is a crucial point – COVID-19 is not clearly and clinically distinguishable from a bad but still standard pneumonia. Demaneuf implies that analysts intercepted hospital communications revealing something distinctive that caused them considerable concern. But what is that? They don’t say – but they should. To state the obvious, these reports should be declassified and put into the public domain. The difficulty, though, is that it’s hard even to conceive what it might be. What were the doctors saying to one another that grabbed the intelligence analysts’ attention and caused them to start briefing NATO and jetting off to Singapore? Whatever it was, it does not appear to have alarmed the hospital doctors themselves, as no evidence has been produced that doctors or Government officials in China noticed or were concerned prior to mid-December. We have also seen no evidence of the “out of control” epidemic that was “changing patterns of life and business” as claimed in ABC News. The trouble is, in the absence of details, we’re left wondering what it could conceivably be, particularly when COVID-19 is not clinically distinguishable from other causes of severe pneumonia.
There is, it should be noted, one straightforward way to explain all of this, but it’s implications are disturbing to say the least. It is that the virus was deliberately released in China by some group or groups within the U.S. intelligence and security services. The purpose of such a release would be partly to disrupt China and partly as a live exercise for pandemic preparedness – which is, as we know, how the pandemic was in practice treated by those in the U.S. biodefence network. While shocking, this is not outside the bounds of possibility. Consider what Robert Kadlec wrote in a Pentagon strategy paper in 1998:
Using biological weapons under the cover of an endemic or natural disease occurrence provides an attacker the potential for plausible denial. Biological warfare’s potential to create significant economic loss and subsequent political instability, coupled with plausible denial, exceeds the possibilities of any other human weapon.
If this were the case, it may be that the addition of the furin cleavage site to the virus would be to enhance its infectiousness in order to increase the chance of a pandemic occurring (perhaps they’d tried before with a less infectious virus and it hadn’t worked so well). The virus would be deliberately relatively mild so it didn’t do too much harm, but severe enough to have the desired impact – at least when assisted with psyops and propaganda. Very few individuals would likely know the origin – most would be part of the live exercise.
Such a scenario would neatly explain how U.S. intelligence personnel were closely ‘following the spread’ in November despite China being oblivious. It would also explain why U.S. biodefence people were far more alarmist than the Chinese authorities from the get-go; why they have denied the virus could be engineered and squashed all efforts to investigate origins (and clung to discredited theories); and why they have followed through on the whole lockdown-and-wait-for-a-vaccine biodefence plan despite the virus plainly not warranting it (and the measures not working), and generally treated the whole thing like a live exercise. It’s uncontentious to point out that the pandemic was a golden opportunity to put their long-prepared plans into practice. But what if it was an opportunity they didn’t leave to chance?
None of us wants to draw this conclusion, of course. To disprove it, at least as far as this argument is concerned, we would need to see considerably more detail about what U.S. intelligence analysts were seeing and saying in November 2019, which would explain how they knew what China did not and why they were so concerned when China was not.
Short of this, it’s hard not to wonder: what if releasing the virus in China to disrupt the country and see how the world responds could have been some hare-brained scheme cooked up in the deeper recesses of the U.S. biosecurity state?
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Yes, very suspicious. Because they made it. In China.
God knows why.
It’s not to any extent clear the US did. Electronic surveillance is extremely powerful and pervasive and knowing what I know about it, the hole in the argument this article puts forward I s that it is not just feasible, but for me, expected, the US and U.K. administrations would have known about this from communication pattern detection from a very early point. Not to mention there was a lot of researcher to researcher joint project communication. Further given the way surveillance systems work versus work/power hierarchies it also, to my mind feasible (less likely but still nevertheless perfectly feasible) the US and U.K. would have known first before the CCP because within an authoritarian hierarchy there is more defensive shielding before reporting to the upper layers and that is because there is fear about presenting a wrong picture (witness the carefully worded emails around the order for a new air filtration system for the lab in late 2019 and, for a more extreme case the denial of reality in the USSR regime relating to Chernobyl) The same reluctance can even include state security apparatus. this second point though is just for context because of course, there is a difference between the CCP knowing and the CCP publicly acknowledging they know, so the point isn’t essential to the argument anyway.
Of course none of this rules out what could be taken to be implied by this article, but sorry, IMO the information we have carries no such implication (nor contradicts it).
BTW in saying “knowing what I know” I’m not in any way claiming or hinting inside knowledge or any kind of secret squirrel status – I don’t like it when commenters big up their credentials with hinted expertise they don’t really have. I’m just speaking as someone who has dealt with technology throughout his life.
Hmm. All valid points. But we know (and knew from the beginning, those with common sense anyway) that SARS-CoV-2 was no worse than a bad winter flu. So exactly what led US “Intelligence” to act as if something dangerous was happening in China cannot have been a real life signal.
“…wire and computer intercepts, coupled with satellite images…” Rubbish, in other words.
The real reason they came to believe it was dangerous was because of what enough of them thought they already knew about what was happening in Wuhan (GoF research) and the involvement therein of Daszak, Fauci et al.
That has always been the most convincing theory. I don’t buy the cockup story, but neither do I believe it was part of the Great Reset (though I have no doubt lots of those bastards were chuffed when it happened and have seized the moment).
Yes, I am sure that once the outbreak was underway, US intelligence would have had known about it through the kind of surveillance that you mentioned.
The problem, though, is that the US intelligence reports were of an outbreak in mid November, which is not only weeks before anyone in China seems to have known, but weeks before the outbreak actually happened.
The estimated date of the first infection in Wuhan is November 18th. The date of the first known patient (patient zero) is December 1st.
Thus, the author is asking how US intelligence seemingly had prior knowledge of the outbreak.
The only thing missing is how Bill Gates fits in to this.
I’ve been round this a thousand times in my head. There is a case to be made for a deliberate release and if so, then the Yanks would be at the top of my list of suspects. In this scenario the Chinese are the patsies, which would work well for the US biosecurity state for a number of reasons.
The biggest problem with this scenario in my mind is one of calibration. To create a Goldilocks virus (not too deadly to put the lives of the creators at risk but deadly enough to cause a panic) would require a lot of testing in humans. It is hard to imagine how this might have taken place, even covertly. Having said that, these people are maniacs so perhaps they just trusted their models and went for it.
The biggest thing that for me that doesn’t fit is why release a virus no more deadly than seasonal flu (as John Ioannidis’s latest IFR analysis on latest data indicate)? But maybe that’s just because, thanks to being a lockdown sceptic, I must be a rabid right winger who doesn’t care if anyone dies and so would have no sense of jeopardy or that such a mild virus could prove useful to a globalist agenda..
Is it possible that they underestimated the average human immune system?
I heard about it from a Wall streeter in early November. How did he know? I asked what the hell was a Corona? He said some flu from China that will shut down the economy. I laughed. I wasn’t laughing in March 2020. How does Wall Street know about this in early Nov and yet it is not official until Jan 2020?
All planned is why. CIA-Pharma op. With a purpose. Just a pilot project for the Climate Thingy and Scamdemic 2.
We must have had the same contact/s. I heard about it Nov 2019 and dismissed it. Then I became increasingly worried as authorities began their increasingly ridiculous reactions and the politicians found an excuse to run around “saving” everyone. And here we are!
So you guys heard about it from some Wall St guy in November, but no one in China seemed to mention it anywhere. There were no social media posts. No rumours. No gossip. No leaks. Nothing. Seems incredible.
When I read this sort of thing I ask myself the question, how many “threats” does US Intelligence track on a daily, weekly, monthly basis and how many does it issue warnings about?
I genuinely don’t know, but my guess is many. And in a “cover your arse” world like the one we live in, I fully expect that anything that could escalate to a bigger threat would be reported to someone at some stage, just so nobody can say – how come this wasn’t brought up sooner?
I have clear memories during the years after 9/11 of potential terrorist threats being announced regularly most of which came to nothing.
I mean, the job of these people is to scan the globe looking for threats. Any kind. Maybe on this one occasion one of the many things they flagged actually turned into the mother of all shit storms.
Just a thought.
Yes agree. They do see A LOT. When they “miss” something like this it is usually not that they “missed” it at all but because they have so much data they failed understand it would turn into something big and prioritise it. There is very limited time and few items the higher ups can handle at once, so extreme filtering and selection is required. That is where it’s easy to get things wrong. But yes, the authorities would have had this information and it could very easily be something they got right.
All horribly plausible, but for me I think a step too far down the rabbit hole. And would they not have wanted to have a “safe and effective” vaccine ready before they released the engineered virus?
Yep. Original “conspiracy theory” is adequate. They were messing around with viruses like kids play with lego, because they were fascinated with how they work and coming up with excuses for getting paid to do this kind of stuff. They were rationalising excuses for why, despite the fact that due to the number of prior leaks it is a self evidently bad idea. Of course there are some legitimate excuses for doing gain of function work on coronaviruses, it’s just that they are not worth the risk. One (that wasn’t particularly deadly), escaped. Wether there are bio warfare aspects to the lab is in this case bye-the-bye. C19 is not nearly deadly enough for either a military application (other than the fact the military will be interested to be sure Chinese researchers are up on how to synthesise viruses) or supporting a WEF depopulation agenda kind of move. If you want authoritarian control, why not do the job properly and make real excuse for locking people down?
I thought the virus couldn’t / hasn’t been isolated ??
A US-initiated leak of the virus seems entirely plausible to me. There’s a huge amount to gain for the US by seeding a virus within China, not least to falter the juggernaut of Chinese technological & economical advancement; to provide, at the very least, a little breathing space while plans are redrawn. If those plans include sweeping socio-economic reforms for the West, then those initiatives can be triggered under the guise of a pandemic and a reset be triggered. All done while pointing the finger at the communists in the East.
Out of every single country in the world, it’s the US I trust the least. The ‘pandemic’ has always had, in my mind at least, their sticky fingers all over it.
Then why were the US trying to hide that it was synthesised, and why release it in the vicinity of a lab where there is a paper trail and public knowledge that you have involvement? Makes no sense. It was a lab accident.
That ratio. Ouch.
‘… deemed a dangerous novel virus in China…’
And a second question, how did they ‘deem’ a mostly harmless virus to be ‘dangerous’? With what were they comparing it?
If CoV 2 is ‘dangerous’ what describes the 1917/18 influenza virus or the Ebola virus?
(perhaps they’d tried before with a less infectious virus and it hadn’t worked so well)
Bill Gates: “We’ll have to prepare for the next one…”
So the virus was reportedly spreading just days after EVENT201 ‘exercise’ concluded ‘its proceedings’, so to speak. How conspiratorial.
Great article thanks – lots of questions without much in the way of answers.
As I was reading it I too was coming to think that it pointed to a deliberate release by the US, before I got to the paragraphs discussing this possibility.
But …
What about the Wuhan Lab deleting that file on coronaviruses in September (correct me on date if necessary)? That to me has always been a massive smoking gun. It needs to be accounted for. It seems a most unlikely coincidence.
An alternative hypothesis, which I think fits the facts.
Wuhan Lab is working for the US (via Fauci et al grants). In fact, it’s reporting directly to the US and not to Chinese authorities. The Wuhan scientists become aware of an accidental lab release circa August 2019. They inform their paymasters in the US, but not their ostensible employers in China. US authorities now know what they’re looking for, daren’t tell China, and the rest is history as they say.
I’d welcome comments on this, especially critical ones.
FWIW, I agree with this hypothesis. See my comment above.
It seems to fit with all the known facts.
Although as you point out in your post, I thought it was understood that activities in the Wuhan area were indicative of dealing with an outbreak in. the fall of 2019 – in which case the Chinese authorities must have been aware of there being a new virus around, although not necessarily that it came the lab, with all the concomitant sinister implications.
I continue to have a problem with the deliberate release hypothesis. To release deliberately a man-made pathogen, engineered to be highly infective to humans, would require an unfathomable level of cynicism and evil. And to what end? What purpose could realistically be achieved by it?
I know some would answer ‘total world-wide control’, Bond villain style. But there was never any prospect of that, and I can’t think that anyone (lots of people in fact) in their right mind tempted to release the virus would think this a tenable end-point.
There’s another problem: it would require a lot of people to be in on the scam, at least some of whom would have baulked at the idea and squealed. I don’t find it plausible, or at least find it very hard to believe, that deliberate release could be kept quiet.
Nope, an accidental release that the Americans knew about before anyone else seems the most likely scenario to me, on what I know. That the Wuhan Lab scientists should have dealt directly with their US paymasters concerning the escape seems plausible, and even attractive, to me – as does the thought that they daren’t let the Chinese authorities know about it.
I see your argument and agree up to a point. Where I disagree is that there would not need to be a lot of people in on the scam. A single lab technician could easily release a pathogen if so inclined or induced. That is the big risk of gain-of-function research.
If you consider Bill Gates’ funding of bat corona-virus research at the Wuhan lab, and his large investment in BioNTech in 2019 , and his hosting of Event 201 in Oct 2019, there is an unavoidable smell to it.
I guess the interest in coronavirus research may be explained by the likelihood that if/when a new respiratory virus ‘epidemic” did emerge naturally then there was a good chance it would be a coronavirus. Plus I think these people have God complexes, and thus just love playing around with genetic sequences which hitherto have been the realm of the Gods, or whatever you want to call it.
The BioNTech investments and Event 201: I actually see these as being supportive of, or at least consistent with, my hypothesis.
The US authorities learn in August 2019 that their lab-created and funded coronavirus has escaped. Collectively they cry ‘SHIT, what are we going to do?’ Two obvious reactions would be: 1. invest immediately and heavily in developing a vaccine; 2. run a wargaming session simulating a new emergent coronavirus epidemic. Gates would be an obvious conduit through which to push these reactions. (It would be interesting to know when the technical specifics of Event 201 were decided upon – a worthwhile line of research I’d have thought.)
Yes, I guess a determined rogue lab-tech could release a pathogen if they were so inclined. But that would be a very different thing from from a high-level orchestrated deliberate release, with the agenda of world domination or world depopulation, as some are claiming. A rouge lab-tech release would in my book be more akin to an accidental release – the mechanism of the accident being that the lab-tech had gone mad.
I’m not saying you are wrong. That might be exactly what happened. Just if you follow the money Bill Gates made half a billion on his BioNTech investment from a virus probably created with the help of his own money. It is suspicious.
Yes, nice work if you can get it. The Gates BioNTech investment needs probing, and my guess is that sooner or later it will be under oath.
Accidental leak or intentional, they are culpable either way.
This would answer another niggle – why would you locate a lab doing cutting edge gain-of-function research in the middle of a big, bustling, city?
Also, maybe the lab reported problems to both their masters, but the scientists in the US were more conscious of the risks than their political masters in the CCP.
Right so you’re saying the CCP wasn’t aware of the risks that a SARS-like virus may pose. Mm, cool.
You have left out a couple of indications that Covid was circulating even earlier in China.
I once read a report that the region of Wuhan increased their purchases of viral testing supplies radically in the third quarter of 2019. I also saw US satellite photos of the area around the Wuhan lab which showed pretty clearly the imposition of a 4 km no-go zone centered on the Wuhan lab for a period of roughly two weeks in October 2019.
Both of these reports surfaced in the second quarter of 2020.
It is worth noting that neither of these points is indicative of whether or not the Chinese were aware of the virus as Covid or that it originated in that Wuhan lab. But they could explain the US intelligence reports. I am guessing that the US intelligence community is pretty sensitive about the fact that they are conducting routine surveillance of every square foot of the globe.
It is also worth noting that even if the Chinese were aware of unusual virus activity, it is quite possible that the implications were not understood, at least by the CCP. If Chinese scientists are anything like US scientists and if the virus was a research product that accidentally escaped from the lab, it seems very likely that their first instinct would be to protect their lab and deny anything unusual had happened. So it would not be surprising if the first real indications of coming disaster were the first sequencing of the virus by private labs.
Considering all of the comments, it came to mind this could have been a demonstration to powerful countries of a bioweapon that has been developed. Many countries are hard at work developing bioweapons.
The fact they have developed the skill to enhance any non human virus to make it human transmissable is frightening and they justify gain of function research with reasons they are helping mankind, although it has been banned in US for some reason.
During the Cold War they were quite willing to perform nuclear bomb tests that had fallout and other health risks that threatened the whole planet while demonstrating their weapons and power.