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Healthy or Unhealthy Vaccinee Effect? The Vaccines’ Defenders Can’t Decide

by Dr Norman Fenton
30 September 2022 5:00 PM

One of the key findings in our various analyses of the ONS (Office for National Statistics) vaccine mortality surveillance data was that there were spikes in non-Covid mortality in the unvaccinated that coincided with peak vaccine rollouts. We demonstrated that the main plausible explanation for such an obvious anomaly was that people dying shortly after vaccination were being wrongly classified as unvaccinated deaths. Whether through policy or error this certainly happens (indeed in Sweden, a reply to an FOI confirms that those dying within 14 days of vaccination are routinely counted as unvaccinated).

Once the ONS data were adjusted for these anomalies there was no evidence that the vaccines reduced all-cause mortality.

Our detractors (mainly from the ‘mutton crew‘), who are always desperate to suppress any data suggesting the vaccines are not as safe and effective as claimed, said that there was an alternative explanation for the anomalies. They argued that the anomalies were the result of especially ill people being denied the vaccine; so there was, they claimed, a ‘healthy vaccinee effect’ (or equivalently a ‘moribund unvaccinated effect’). Here is one of the key ‘mutton crew’ repeating that explanation this week (while attacking the recent paper by Dr. Aseem Malhotra exposing problems with the Covid vaccines):

The ONS even stated the ‘healthy vaccinee effect’ as an explanation in a subsequent report after we identified the anomalies in their data. But the notion of the ‘healthy vaccinee’ was contradicted by the NHS guidelines (which required the most critically ill people to be prioritised for the vaccine, not denied it) and we know that even terminally ill patients in care homes were given the vaccine as a priority. Moreover, the observed data could not be theoretically simulated by a ‘healthy vaccinee’ effect.

Another problem with the ONS claim that its data show lower (age-standardised) mortality rates in the vaccinated is that it is based on a subset of the England population which likely massively underestimates the true national proportion of unvaccinated and hence underestimates the mortality rate of the vaccinated. Using the UKHSA and NIMS data on numbers unvaccinated results in higher (age-standardised) mortality rates. In fact, there is increasing evidence now that the vaccinated have the higher mortality rates. And that brings us to a very interesting comment by one of the people – ‘Health Nerd’ (@GidMK on Twitter) – who has been especially vocal in trying to delegitimise our work, and who is the key source of authority for the mutton crew. He, like John Bye, has been outspoken in trying to delegitimise the recent paper by Dr. Aseem Malhotra. In a long Twitter thread he wrote:

So, in contrast to the previously claimed ‘healthy vaccinee’ effect used to explain the non-Covid mortality spikes, the same people are now claiming an ‘unhealthy vaccinee’ effect to explain the higher age-standardised mortality rates of the vaccinated.

Can these people please make up their minds as to whether vaccinees are especially healthy or especially unhealthy?

Dr. Norman Fenton is Professor in Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University of London. This article first appeared on his website.

Tags: Covid deathsCOVID-19Dr Aseem MalhotraExcess MortalityNon-CovidONSVaccineVaccine injury

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
2 years ago

As has been stated many times before; the mental ability to hold two contradictory positions simultaneously, is a key attribute of these kinds of authoritarian lefties. A phenomenon also found in economics, climate science and culture warriors.

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YouDontSay
YouDontSay
2 years ago

The “unvaccinated suffer a spike in non-COVID mortality when vaccination rollouts peak” is quite a pointer to dodgy data; it suggests that somehow a vaccine rollout is somehow having an action-at-a-distance effect on the unvaccinated :O

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
2 years ago
Reply to  YouDontSay

Spooky action at a distance

I tried to understand it when Stephen Hawking explained it in his book. Very strange stuff.

Nothing spooky about the vaccine effects though, no siree, more like…. fraud, on an industrial scale.

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Kenneth Burnley
Kenneth Burnley
2 years ago

I wouldn’t trust any of the Covid statistics coming from the ONS. They recently stated that about 30 percent of Britons are wearing masks out-of-doors – a figure wildly untrue, as any short walk outdoors will prove. The actual figure (based on my own observations in a crowd last week) is about one in 500!

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DonkeyKongPingPong
DonkeyKongPingPong
2 years ago

”… an FOI confirms that those dying within 14 days of vaccination are routinely counted as unvaccinated.”

I recall a similar story in the UK but I’m damned if I can recall the source.

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The old bat
The old bat
2 years ago
Reply to  DonkeyKongPingPong

It’s a total and absolute nonsense, and is designed to obfuscate the amount of deaths caused by the vaccine. There are so many ridiculous parallels one could draw to this method of counting deaths, but I won’t bother and will just say it’s all lies. The whole thing makes me absolutely furious.

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Chris P
Chris P
2 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

And if the ‘vaccine’ victim tests positive for COVID before they died from the ‘vaccine’, they could be counted as an unvaccinated COVID death and be included in statistics that could be used to misinform others to take the injection.

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DonkeyKongPingPong
DonkeyKongPingPong
2 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

I recall that if people in the UK died within 14 days of getting the jab, they were classed as non vaccinated deaths.

This meant that anyone dying as an immediate or short term side effect of the vaccine were classed as unvaccinated. Thus the spike.

I seem to remember that if people had not had 2 jabs they were also recorded as unvaccinated in the death stats. The deck being perpetually stacked in favour of the Teflon shouldered pharmaceutical industry, never the truth.

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NickR
NickR
2 years ago
Reply to  DonkeyKongPingPong

There was initially a rationale for this. It was argued that it took 2 weeks for the vaccines to have an effect so any infection &/or subsequent death was initiated prior to vaccination. However, what this failed to take into consideration were adverse vaccine effects. Consequences within 2 weeks of vaccination from covid may predate the vaccination but deaths/adverse effects from non-covid put the vaccines in the firing line.

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Paramaniac
Paramaniac
2 years ago

Funny how when we were at the height of the hysteria the rule book for Covid deaths just got thrown out of the window? Anyone dying, of anything, at any age, with any existing illness was a Covid death. Even anyone dying of anything, at any age, within 28 days of a PCR test was a Covid death,
Now with the Vaccines the rule book is back and NOTHING is a vaccine death. Even keeling over with the needle still in your arm is considered doubtful.
If these people didn’t have double standards they’d have no standards at all.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
2 years ago

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-investments-global-digital-id-system/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=860f34cb-4036-4ddb-8ad2-b49ad0da72c7

there is defintiely something wrong with him ! the vax i d and all

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