The conventional wisdom of the past two-and-a-half years – that lockdowns saved hundreds of thousands of lives and prevented the NHS from being overwhelmed – feels as if it’s about to collapse. A leader in today’s Telegraph, reprinted in full below, is a case in point.
For much of the pandemic, critics of lockdown were condemned as selfish, stupid, uncaring or worse. Their motives were impugned. Their arguments were misrepresented. Asking whether it was proportionate to shut down the country to control a virus that was only a serious threat to the very old and vulnerable was denounced as Covid-denial. Even Tory MPs joined in the witchhunt, with one launching a website devoted to exposing the “errors” of “dangerous” lockdown-sceptics, including respected scientists.
Rishi Sunak’s interview with Fraser Nelson, in which the former chancellor reveals the extraordinary way in which decisions were made during the pandemic, therefore represents something of a turning point. Mr Sunak says that the costs of lockdown were not acknowledged by decision-makers, that raising concerns about the closure of schools was met with silence, and that dissent within Sage meetings was effectively ignored. “You have to acknowledge trade-offs from the beginning,” he says. “If we’d done all of that, we could be in a very different place.”
This is what many opponents of lockdown have been arguing since March 2020. The difference now is that the costs of that policy are impossible to ignore. The NHS is on the verge of collapse, but this time due to a tsunami of non-Covid patients who were denied treatment during the pandemic. Children are struggling to catch up with lost learning. You cannot simply switch an economy off and on again without massive collateral damage. Handouts and the rise of working from home have fuelled a culture of indolence and entitlement among hitherto self-reliant groups.
In these circumstances, it is likely that other former ministers will decide to go public with their misgivings. Mr Sunak was a member of the “quad” responsible for most pandemic policy-making, along with Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock, and Michael Gove. None of them is thought to have much of a future in front-line politics, and so their former colleagues will have fewer reasons to keep quiet about the flawed processes and political cowardice that saw the UK rush into lockdown.
It is important that they do. Left-wing pundits might obsess over whether the Government failed to shut down the country early enough, but the question the public inquiry ought to answer is whether we should have been locked down at all. As the costs mount, more and more people may conclude that it was all a calamitous mistake.
Is it too much to hope for an apology from Neil O’Brien, the Conservative MP referred to above who launched a website devoted to smearing lockdown sceptics, including the scientists Sunetra Gupta, John Ioannidis and Carl Heneghan?
Stop Press: Fraser Myers has written a good piece for Spiked lamenting the fact that there was so little debate about the wisdom of the lockdown policy in March 2020, with anyone who questioned it immediately being branded an inhuman monster.
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Weasel Sunak is a spineless worm trying to wriggle off a hook whilst remaining intact. A two-faced charlatan that never spoke out against the restrictions but just wants to save his own skin and public image as much as possible. Its as clear as day what he’s trying to accomplish with these interviews. Too little too late and we have the measure of you, duplicitous little turd!
Good morning , I’m still here , what about Witless & Unbalenced Knighthoods ! A pat on the back for a pair of very slimy Toads ! Oh & let’s not forget Michie the Wichie now at the WHO hoping to ruin lives on a Global scale ! 80 years ago these people would have been wearing smart uniforms with a double S on the collar ! …
Those uniforms with the SS motifs are so passe – these days it’s easy to spot the nasties because their Russophobic rhetoric gives them away.
It certainly does !
What do you mean you’re still here?
Have you got a note Freddy?
Yes , I wrote it myself
Glad to see you back.
I messaged you on the forums, 24th Aug 1.20pm, and my bloody post is still ‘awaiting moderator’s approval!’WTAF??? So I thought you were referring to that. What a load of old bollocks that forum place is eh?
Better to say it now then never say it. We’ve all been guilty of cowardice at some point in our lives, the true test is being able to acknowledge that cowardice. I would burn the lot of them, but I wouldn’t use him as the tinder.
Oh I’d totally shove him on the pyre. When your cowardice results in you being complicit then you’ll run into problems trying to redeem yourself.
Never Forget. Never Forgive.
Obviously.
Some Team Sunak voters in the house then!
Can’t quite grow a pair big enough to come out in his defense though eh? Best to keep lurking, I know. I’d be embarrassed as well…
Sorry? Who is that aimed at? I don’t see any “Team Sunak” here. My point was a simple one – there are evils bigger than Sunak out there; at least this idiot is saying there is a problem with lockdowns, and that has kicked off a bigger debate in MSM. We’re in a chess game and every move matters. Naïvety and moral purity is not something we can afford. We need to try to be patient while the rest of the world wakes up, and when it does we need to play the long game – encouraging people to move into our line. Yep, even Sunak. We’ll always know which bricks in the line are immoveable and which ones are will be easily dislodged, but the most important thing for us right now is the size of the wall. We need to be one move ahead. Always
Aimed at the ones who disliked my post because they obviously disagree due to being on Team Sunak but lack the bollocks ( or the DS account ) to say why they want him. He’s an untrustworthy sack of shit, but aren’t they all? Fortunately the ones who will vote for him are in a teeny weeny minority evidently. On here anyways.
Honourable restraint Mogs.
I disagree, worms never harmed anyone and serve a vital purpose (and maybe have more backbone).
Yep, it does feel as if the lockdown log jam is about to break up. How long before the vaccine log jam does likewise? Surely it can’t be far behind.
The Sunak interviews articles have proved devastating. But I haven’t seen much in the way of commentary on what may be the most important aspect within them – although Fraser Nelson has alluded to it.
Sunak was in ‘the Quad’, with Johnson (lazy, looking for easy way out), Hancock (thick, egotistical, weak) and Gove (don’t know what to comment here – a mystery which needs to be solved – but clearly intelligent). And, as Chancellor, Sunak was the second most powerful politician in the land, who (as later events demonstrated) was always a threat to Johnson’s credibility. Sunak’s word should thus always have held great sway in the lockdown policies.
But, by his own admission, he appears to have been powerless to influence events, or even get answers to questions.
Which leads to the question: who in God’s Name is running this country? If it isn’t senior politicians, then who is it?
Theresa May and Brexit comes to mind. Fine, and one thinks genuine, promises on hustings. But in office and something or someone gets at her, and she is unable to resist to the point that it destroys her premiership.
If something good comes from the lockdown shambles, then maybe it will be getting to learn who was driving events, and thus learning something about how we are actually governed.
All too late of course – the great majority of people are jabbed now, and have to wait on the consequences.
To suggest someone other than the UK government got us into this mess is to let the elected government off the hook and that should not happen. Johnson may be going soon but the buck stops with him. The most dreadful PM ever inflicted on my country and goodness knows we have had a few deadbeats.
True, mostly, but IMHO Johnson’s main sin, like some before him, was one of weakness and capitulation to pressure groups and their supporters within the Civil Service who promote the UN/WEF/Chinese agenda, rather than one of malefaction? I was, to my regret, happy to believe that prior to April 2020 Johnson was standing firm against the covid hysteria and opportunistic malefactors. Alas, IMHO, he capitulated, or was out-gunned and betrayed. Similarly, I thought Sunak had eased the pain, notably in his surprising Eat Out To Help Out, which I took as a sign that Johnson was standing up to SAGE and its neo-Puritanical Chinese agenda. Am I being too charitable? I don’t know how this will pan out: I sense that Conservative Party grass-roots membership is largely sceptical, but this still doesn’t translate into active scepticism in Westminster. Something mentally happens (the M25 effect?”) to regional MPs when they enter Parliament.
“The most dreadful PM ever inflicted on my country and goodness knows we have had a few deadbeats.”
And when we factor Bliar in to the equation that is some achievement.
Yes, I agree with your post. Nothing absolves Johnson and the rest of that shower of their responsibility for this catastrophe.
Is not more likely that a club of Permanent Secretaries was manipulating the policies? No doubt supported by the SAGE group, and their friends. Those politicians who took a defensive, or even precautionary attitude were easy prey.
That’s my best guess – but it doesn’t seem wholly satisfactory.
“Which leads to the question: who in God’s Name is running this country? If it isn’t senior politicians, then who is it?”
The Corporatocracy….do keep up.
Yes, but who exactly are the Corporatocracy? Any names? How did they get at British ministers?
We are being ‘governed’ by the Davos Deviants. Precisely who makes up the Branch running Department UK we don’t know but probably some creatures based in the WEF. These will be appointees of the bankers, Blackrock, Vanguard, HSBC etc
The politicians are simply order takers.
As above, who are the Davos Deviants? Any names? And how did they get to circumvent British policy making procedures?
Some of the principals we all know such as Larry Fink, Carnage Carney, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Soros,Gates and there will be some we never know but these are surely at the top table and leading operations.
Yes, Carney has a great deal to answer for – detested him as BoE Governor, could see straight through him. But I really don’t see how these individuals can determine British policy today. Only thing is, if the whole of the top echelons of society are invested with these vile entities, and government becomes impossible in the face of their opposition. But surely things are going to get so bad now the current model is about to collapse? People have been sleepwalking to date – but cold and poverty are great awakeners.
As a result of the Chinese backed WHO lockdown policy, governments around the world snapped into line. The problem we have is one of unaccountable global institutions like the WHO exercising executive power over the countries that are signatories to their treaties. In this way, the democratic sovereignty of Parliament has been diluted to a point where it has little real autonomy. We need to dissolve our ties and treaties with many of these international organisations in order to restore the sovereignty that we should have. A parallel situation exists with UN Agenda 2030 which lends global legitimacy and obligations to the disastrous Net Zero project.
Indeed.
I agree with most of your post. But how do organisations like the WHO exert so much influence at national level?
How was Sunak – the second most powerful politician in the land – made to feel that he couldn’t ask questions?
You, and others above, may well be correct, or part correct, in your suggestions about outside supra-national controlling bodies. But how and by what mechanisms has it come to pass?
As of March this year (and I think it hasn’t gone up too much since then) at least 15 million plus appear not to have had this medication, and at least 30 million plus had not had three doses. Of course, far too many did, but if they were really trying to eliminate the unjabbed control group, they came nowhere near. And, as Mark Steyn (GB News) pointed out, there are interesting all cause mortality statistics currently in Bulgaria and Portugal. The truth will out.
Yes, I’m confident the truth will out in the end. Pity the tens of millions who succumbed.
Bunter and the Gumby brothers above should be subjected to the Spanish inquisition.
I have two questions for them
Why did they think hospital clearances were a good idea?
Why did they think setting the PCR test diagnostic threshold so high was a good idea?
and…..I have three questions for them
Why did they change their minds at an early stage on lockdowns and masks?
and…..I have four questions for them
Why did they think scaring people was either ethical or sensible?
Five questions……etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_AOfzrQYV0
Because one of Bill Gates’ tentacles came crashing through the window and handed them their orders?
And why, ‘IF’ this were such a dangerous, fast spreading, risk-to-all contagion did they not immediately follow the primary rule of infection control: do not mix infectious people with non-infected people? That would have meant putting known or suspected cases in special isolation units with attending staff also quarantined.
Instead the infectious were distributed throughout the hospital system and care homes, which then became infection centres, with staff allowed to come and go taking infection out into shops, buses, trains, homes. Even if lockdown could have a significant effect, this just made it a farce.
I’d be rather more impressed if they first denounced Paul Nuki & their Global Health Team, cheerleaders for the worst nonsense.
Sunak has many of the mannerism’s and affectations as Blair who started his excuses with “Look”, having a bit of coaching? The dam should be about to break on everything, all of the puppies they’re trying to sell, even the Ukraine war seems to be an excuse to use for the collapse in so many ways of our country including the fact that heating this winter will be a hardship because of policies decided many years ago.
The fact there was no cost-benefit analysis of lockdowns is either woefully inept thinking, incompetence or it’s a lie (wasn’t that the reason WHY they’ve never been used before?). All of Sage’s proclamations since too have been confident in their “we’ve saved thousands of lives” statements (which is debateable) yet hadn’t even considered the cost of those interventions themselves on wider public health? What world are we living in? Who the hell are these people? This one track mind over the eradication of a specific disease (of which they’ve sucked at anyway I might add) at the expense of everything else is an impressive display of blinkered vision. There’s more to life than a sodding virus, obviously, but this blatant reality seemed to have escaped our most trusted ‘experts’ in the field of “protecting public health”. Genuinely, I don’t get it, which is why I suggest they’re lying. They got orders from… whoever, as did all other governments across the world to act in lockstep (whilst launching a SPI-B behavioural psychological attack on the minds of the people to confuse and terrify them so we didn’t know up from down). Heads will never roll, it never does where the air is real thin, we know that’s the way of the world but what’s most worrying is the trust in our institutions may never recover. That’s the real tragedy.
I wouldn’t count on no heads rolling. These globalists are taking a big gamble this winter that crowds don’t like to go out in the cold, but they had better be sure their is enough food. Because hungry people don’t care about the cold if they know that specific entities caused them to be starving.
Revolutions might be getting closer.
No cost benefit analysis of Net Zero or Ukraine war.
Moral hazard. Politicians don’t do cost benefit analyses because the costs do not fall on them, they fall on the people, and the benefits are political and accrue to them, so costs to the people don’t matter.
We must all be prepared to pay a little for freedom, protecting granny, saving the fish/trees/apes and saving the planet.
No in a word. The crimes are the state are never published ever.
I am very encouraged that we are now having this debate, finally….
What I am not encouraged about is that, apart from the USA where it seems to be ongoing but highly politically divided, which is sad, is that there appears not to be a whisper of criticism in much of Europe that I have read about. Perhaps more is going on than I have read. Can someone tell us the state of the debate there?
This is only the first part of the dam to start crumbling – vaccines and masks are still to be fully broken in public. When I read unvaccinated children over 12 in Washington DC cannot go to school, I despair at people’s life prospects being wrecked.
‘What I am not encouraged about is that, apart from the USA where it seems to be ongoing but highly politically divided, which is sad, is that there appears not to be a whisper of criticism in much of Europe…’
Is it sad? Could that be because the USA IS politically divided, that is there is an active and effective political opposition, whereas in the UK & Europe we have in effect single Party politics and no opposition to channel and voice dissent, challenge, consider alternatives?
Totally agree
Not sad at all
One of the few countries where there remains a strong culture of personal freedom and responsibility, freedom of speech
Name another country where mainstream journalists and senior politicians are as lockdown sceptic as Tucker Carlson and Ron De Santis
I simply could not understand, in March 2020, how a “strategy” so obviously unnecessary, disproportionate, arbitrary, ridiculous, foolhardy, dangerous, ruinously expensive, inhumane etc could garner such global support.
But when you look at it as the most well conceived, financed and executed global advertising campaign the world has ever seen, conducted through everyone’s friendly little brainwashing device in their pockets, it starts to make sense.
The “vaccines” were not brought in because of COVID – COVID was brought in because of the “vaccines”.
Never has truth been such a commodity, available to the highest bidder. I wonder who that could be…
Follow. The. Money!
“The “vaccines” were not brought in because of COVID – COVID was brought in because of the “vaccines”.”
I have favoured this theory for some time but there is a problem with it. If it is designed then how did they caliberate the virus to be just right in terms of not killing lots of young and working age people and killing just the ‘right’ number of older and sick people? It might have been a completely damp squib, or apocalyptic – how would they know? Caliberation would have required large clinical trials conducted in secret and with a coerced trial sample. Maybe China could have done it but it would have been difficult for even them to pull off.
I suspect the perps were optimistic that their virus would be more dangerous than it actually was but given that they had their propoganda campaign ready to roll the fact that it wasn’t didn’t matter. What mattered was stoking sufficient fear in the population so that when the saviour “vaccines” had been produced – they had been produced long before they were announced – Joe gullible public would not be able to roll their sleeves up quickly enough.
“The “vaccines” were not brought in because of COVID – COVID was brought in because of the “vaccines”.”
Now the “vaccines” have most definitely been brewed to a recipe / recipes. At this stage it is too early to tell if there is one single brew or varieties thereof and only as mortalities rise, and they will, will this become more evident. The design does however contain maim and kill outcomes. As mortalities start to rise the fear factor can be raised once more and probably more ridiculous NPI’s.
Then of course and coming shortly we have massive national and international financial upheavals and chaos. This will be the cue for Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDC) which a frightened, poorly populace will see as salvation. And to all intents and purposes, barring the microchip in the arm, that’s the Digital ID sorted.
BANG! And the gates are shut. Don’t even bother with the McGowan refrain –
“I am not a prisoner, I am a free man.”
Slave population. Over and done.
But if the evil villains created a virus with a CFR something like MERS (20-40%) then that’s a huge roll of the dice for them – they might catch it and die. I don’t see themselves being willing to take that risk for an ideology.
Exercise in control – how far the people could be pushed to obey and comply? The full dress rehearsal for Net Zero, destruction of agriculture and our return to an impoverished peasantry ruled by rich and powerful, rent-seeking overlords?
Im much less confident that we will see any ‘clearing of the river’. There will be a lot of ‘correct decision, at the time’, ‘following best advice’, than truth. No-one wants to own this arseburger, and with the media running interference, and a sizable rump who will never admit or believe that we did the wrong thing, there will never be a broad admission of culpability, no-one will stand in the dock, or go to jail. It is just wishful thinking.
How TCW’s Paula Jardine led the way in uncovering the Covid vaccine deceit – 1 – The Conservative Woman
“Is the Lockdown Damn About to Break?”
Dam, Toby, Dam, damn it.
LOL. Maybe he meant to write ‘damn’!
The correction seemed to occur between 09.30 and 09.38 while I was reading it!
It’s a pity that the correction to The Lockdown didn’t occur between May and June 2022 while we were nearly all signing up to it by hoarding pasta and toilet rolls.
#2020 obvs.
Still there in the web address though. Damn lockdowns…
It was no mistake…..It was done very much on purpose.
Just look at what happened to the west after the WEF was brought into being in 1971.
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
Rob Slane – brilliant as usual: Let Them Eat Fake (theblogmire.com)
Thanks for the link:
Worth reading in full.
A sincere apology would be nice — not that it’ll ever happen.
I have never known a public official to apologize to me for their mistake. At best I have received a thank-you letter for drawing their attention to the mistake and a comment that “lessons will be learnt” or “let us draw a line under this, going forward”. At worst I get visits from the police and threats of arrest and actuality of dismissal for alleged whistle-blowing! In between there has been repeated obfuscation, “loss” of records, and elaborate intrigue to divert attention, mis-attribute blame and to falsely accuse members of the general public. The more deaths there are, the more elaborate, outward-reaching and upward-reaching the intrigue becomes. By way of example “The Truth About Zane” family tragedy was just the tip of the iceberg of numerous cover-ups about misattribution of cause of death in order to hide politically-embarrassing mistakes. However, Zane affected one family, and intensely; The Lockdown and possibly The Vaccine may turn out to involve thousands of deaths affecting society as a whole, and questioning what our UK constitution is. Why did the Government not openly and morally justifiably point out they were dealing with a Trolley Problem, as do most governments from time to time, rather than adopting the approach of “There Is No Alternative” to the Lockdown and the “Safe and Effective” vaccine? Have we covertly become a plutocracy, pharmocracy or technocracy, or a merger of these, like the US and Italy? If so, was the transition really covert or was it Hidden In Plain Sight? It’s hardly a conspiracy if they are telling you exactly what they are doing. So many question abound, yet The Opposition do not ask them.
They can Foxtrot Oscar with apologies.
Good grief, is this what we are reduced to?
Sunak facilitated the lockdowns and joined in the evil PsyOps campaign.
Are we really supposed to applaud a man who admits he connived to destroy the economy, ruin millions of lives and systematically lied to us for 2 years?
And isn’t he a millionaire married to a billionaire? Like he’s got any awareness of the day to day struggles of regular people impacted by his and his party’s destructive policies. He couldn’t give a rat’s arse if people are suffering or have to choose between eating and heating this winter. But he tries to manipulate people into voting for him anyway! These people are completely devoid of any empathy because they have never known what real hardship is due to being born with a silver spoon up their arses!
“And isn’t he a millionaire married to a billionaire?”
And the billionaire wife is a tax dodger claiming non-dom status.
Nice people.
Sunak – such mixed feelings. Yes he should have resigned at the time and said why. So should every other person involved who felt as he did. But – perhaps he felt that Boris would fall sooner, and that he would be able to do more as a PM than as a Chancellor. And, as has been pointed out, albeit with sarcasm perhaps, ‘better late than never’. The fact is that his recent actions HAVE been a massive boost to others who have been wanting to speak out. For that we must be grateful, although small comfort.
Maybe, but at present his real audience is those members of the Party with the right to vote for him or Truss.
Now that Lockdown Sceptics has broadened its observations to Climate Scepticism, perhaps it is worth reviewing the attitude of sceptics to the SRA/MPD/DID scare in the UK? The Satanic Ritual Abuse scare in the UK and US, closely allied to the Multiple Personality Disorder scare in the US and the Dissociated Identity Disorder scare in the UK, has moved away from the limelight since its heyday in the 1980s and its debunking in the 1990s. Nevertheless, the scares live on in darker corners, less amenable to investigation, such as the Family Courts and Child Protection Services in the UK. There is still a thriving industry, albeit not on the scale of the Coronavirus Industry let alone the Climate Industry, which exploits fear of SRA in order to create a steady level of alarm about the matter and to provide a steady income for therapists, academics, lawyers, self-appointed experts, NHS clinics, reporters, authors, the NSPCC and social workers.
Structurally, its the same Mencken Hobgoblin industry as Coronavirus and Climate were. Now that these two are in crisis, I would not be surprised if the SRA Industry, with tentacles in quack psychology and the Family Courts, saw a revival. I find the parallels striking. The relevant phrase, as Mencken observed, is “endless series”: as one fades, another is created.
(For those who were born after the SRA scare, or who slept through it, it became widely thought that routine persistent eccentric behaviour, recognized for centuries albeit under ever-changing names such as demonic possession, witchcraft, hysteria, nymphomania, moral turpitude, emotional instability, borderline personality disorder, bipolar mood disorder, PTSD and mental disorder generally, suddenly had a unique unifying causative agent, namely child abuse decades previously, typically but not invariably Satanic Ritual Abuse. See McMartin pre-school, Broxtowe, Western Scottish Isles, Tavistock Clinics and numerous other outbreaks of mass hysteria and mass formation, much of investigated by the highly sceptical Sub-cultures Alternative Freedom Foundation decades ago.)
Could The Daily Sceptic and its activists perhaps consider extending their investigations to include SRA revival?
As Fauci pointed out – he never recommended lockdowns, he never recommended school closures or masks, despite the video record of him advocating these things on many occasions.
Where was Sushi when all this was happening? I don’t recall his public, vociferous opposition.
The virus started circulating in late 2019 and exponential spread built up during January 2020 peaking in early February, going into decline through into March. This was evident because the death rate – those assigned as dying by/with/from, etc CoVid peaked in first week of March, and since there is an approx 4 week lag between infection to death, then infection rate must have peaked four weeks prior.
By the time lockdown was introduced, the epidemic – such as it was – was near over.
i do not believe the ‘experts’ and Governments did not know that, not least because peak death rate was know to them before they introduced restrictions so there simply was no reason to believe the NHS would be inundated.
When do the trials start?
Goodnight & thanks for engaging with my lower profile self ( I’m so dumb my wife does my subscription
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Bunter and the Gumby brothers, above, will use the ‘Gumby’ defence that, since lockdown was ’caused’ by Covid, all ill effects of lockdown were therefore caused by Covid.
Gumby Whitty has already used that circular reasoning, making the point in that pompous tone of voice he always used when he thought he was talking to very stupid people, i.e. all of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_AOfzrQYV0
Don’t expect any apology from O’Brien. Cockroaches like him deserve to be stamped on and crushed.
‘Is it too much to hope for an apology from Neil O’Brien…’
O’Brien is a dirty-working guttersnipe. He was promised a squalid little political sinecure in return for his vinnie-jones hit-jobbing on eminent conscientious people. I notice he’s now moved on from the department for leveling up. Perhaps they discovered he is a useless as well as a feckless and vicious guttersnipe.
It should also be remembered that the Labour Party were always screaming for more restrictions and earlier and longer lockdowns. People should realise the extemely bad results we now find would have been much worse under a Labour Government. Its not as if there were not excellently qualified medical and scientific experts who were saying lockdowns were wrong and some of the restrictions imposed were crazy. Why was our government only listening to the incompetent members of SAGE and blocking those who disagreed. The honouring of those incompetents was wrong after the damage they have contributed to. Also why is anyone taking note of any results of computer modeling from Imperial College, when whether its Covid or climate change they are invariably widely inaccurate and just plain wrong. As for Sunak, if he believed what he says, it just proves he it a gutless, spineless politician who has no place in governing our country. BTW when talking about massive incompetence I forgot Hancock who spent time in the commons deriding The Great Barrington Declaration presented by some of the best experts in the teatment and effect of viruses and signed by many more and should have been the path we could have followed to prevent the current disaster.