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Neither ‘Noble Lie’ Nor ‘New Evidence’ Can Justify Chris Whitty’s Mask U-Turn

by Will Jones
15 March 2022 7:00 AM

We’re publishing today a new piece by Dr. Gary Sidley, a retired NHS Consultant Clinical Psychologist and co-founder of the Smile Free campaign. Dr. Sidley is glad to see the mask mandates being lifted, but worries that without a clear admission from leaders that imposing face masks was unethical, ineffective and harmful, and ought never to be done again, the measure will quickly resurface next time a threat from a similar contagious disease is perceived. Here’s the introduction:

For those of us at the Smile Free campaign – and the many other people campaigning to remove all mask mandates – it has been a positive few weeks. On January 20th, secondary school children in England were liberated from the requirement to wear face coverings in the classroom, followed, a week later, by the removal of all mask mandates in England. A similar easing of mask restrictions was announced by Nicola Sturgeon on February 22nd (although this reprieve for the Scottish people will not happen until March 21st). And even London mayor, Sadiq Khan, has conceded that masks will no longer be a condition of carriage on the capital’s transport system. Although this news is all very welcome, it is not good enough for our politicians to claim that these measures are being relaxed solely because of the currently reduced risk of harm associated with the Omicron variant; such a rationale means that masking the healthy, the most insidious of all the COVID-19 restrictions, will be imposed again at the first hint of another viral threat. What we require is a clear and unambiguous acknowledgement that our political leaders, with support of Government scientists, inflicted an intervention on the British people that was unethical, ineffective and harmful and – importantly – their commitment never to do so again.

This is a big ask. Those seeking to retain power over us rarely admit to mistakes. However, the likelihood of such an occurrence would increase if more of us could recognise that mask diktats were introduced for reasons other than viral control. In a previous article, I made the case for masks primarily being imposed as a compliance device, a means of keeping the British public responsive to any restrictions (current or future) the Government might wish to enforce in pursuit of its agenda, whatever that might be. To highlight further the evidence consistent with this assertion, I posed some questions I would like to ask Professor Chris Whitty (England’s Chief Medical Officer) about the reasons for his U-turn in spring 2020 from mask sceptic to mask advocate. The bulk of responses to this article were supportive, but a few of the comments raised objections – three in total – that I will now address.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Chris WhittyEvidenceFace MasksMandatory MaskingMask Mandates

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

‘I’m wearing my mask to protect you’, was one of the most ridiculous statements, ever. The UK has become the land of the virtue signal.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

SPI-B or whoever dreamt that up are criminal masterminds. It essentially tells idiots they can be cowards while appearing (to fellow idiots) to be heroes.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Agree and the demand that you do the same was inflates this massive sense of entitlement that many people had.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Yes, I saw a meme saying ‘show you care, wear a mask’ and immediately unfriended the guy who posted it.

He can go and live in Chris Christie’s underpants, permanently.

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

lol – conversely, I was unfriended by someone when I asked if they could provide any actual evidence at all that simply putting a scarf over your face, or even pulling your t-shirt up might have even the slightest efficacy… both of which, you may recall, we were advised to do in the early days?

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Remember when Doctator Hillary Jones recommended wearing a mask while swimming?

Which cereal box did he get his PhD from?

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

He also ripped up the Governments own Yellow Card leaflet on live TV.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

What is the leaflet you refer to?

I’ve never heard of it.

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

An activist group made a load of leaflets and sent them to Schools on a large scale. They just put together data from yellow card in an objective way.

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twinkytwonk
twinkytwonk
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

They dont call him Dr Shillary for nothing you know 🤣

Last edited 3 years ago by twinkytwonk
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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

As far as I’m aware he doesn’t have a PhD, he’s just a medical doctor (MB).

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Doctator, I would say

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shrenkssedge
shrenkssedge
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

He was just doing what itv wanted him to do and they in turn were and still are under the directive from Ofcom with regard to covid. Just a spokesman for the government narrative. If indeed a headless chicken can have a narrative? Low-grade politicians is the world’s big problem. Nobody in their right mind stands for election and we are left with the dross which we see and hear everyday.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  shrenkssedge

Remember when he told a publican whose pub had been closed by the government to ‘stick to pulling pints’?

What a knobrash.

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Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

It wasn’t a cereal box, it was a Lucky Dip bag… (You may be too young to remember those!)

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

It’s still happening in your local supermarket or puppy-class – in two years, nobody has ever even refined the message to improve “bad practice.” That itself proves that it’s the compliance, not the mask, that was always the aim.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

It’s still happening

Visit your local dentist if you want proof of that.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Actually, I was dreading the dentist last week but it was a new one for me, and I was really pleasantly surprised – no mask mandates, no fuss, everyone really friendly. I was stunned and very pleased! But there are other dentists in the area avidly still doing following the covid theatre.

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twinkytwonk
twinkytwonk
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

My wife works at the dentist and apparently this instruction comes from the BDA

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Or vets. They seem to have been among the most draconian advocates of masking up before you go in – not to mention making people and their pets stand outside in the rain, because, you know, reasons.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

We’re luckier. Our vet has ended the mask requirement, thought the reception staff can mask up if they wish. Only one does though, and she looks very silly.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

That’s horrible, why don’t these people just use some common sense.
Let’s hope it’ll soon be over, a visit to a vet is traumatic enough!

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Or podiatrist. Or chiropractor. In many cases – hairdresser! My hair has grown so long i have to tie it up – because I’ve refused to mask up when having it cut. I’ve asked will I have to wear it while getting my hair washed and was told no of course not. But, but, but – oh hell, never mind, forget it!

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  lorrinet

I was practically thrown out of my hairdressers on 22nd Dec 2020, a salon I had been using for at least 10 years. I am exempt and the salon owner tried to force me to wear a mask during a one and a half hour appointment. He was not wearing one himself when I arrived.He said I needed proof of exemption and threatened to call the police. At that time I did not know my rights and it was really very embarrassing so I complied for part of the time, paid and left. The atmosphere in there was terrible and I wish looking back I had simply left.
There are a lot of dreadful bullies out there particularly in small women’s fashion shops.I don’t argue, simply walk away but it is a shame as I prefer to support small businesses.
The good thing is I found a delightful mobile hairdresser right under my nose, the daughter of an old friend. She’s a perfectionist, great fun and we have tea and cakes together. She doesn’t charge salon prices and there’s no driving and parking to consider. And guess what? She has an address book full of local tried and tested workmen.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Yes. First visit Monday to a new dentist 7th March I was asked to put on a mask and use sanitiser,I did not. It appeared to be acceptable. Wednesday, second visit 9th March I was told to put on a mask and use sanitiser, I replied that I am exempt. Thursday 10th of March told again to put on a mask and sanitiser. I replied that my cousins manufacture the sanitiser and I knew what was in it. The Chinese assistant did not say anything about the mask then but as I left the premises I was treated to a brief lecture about my being in a medical establishment and requiring to fit in with their rules.
Further to that the following day I received an email headed ‘ With reference to your previous appointment ‘ listing all the covid regulations and instructions as to what to do if I thought I had covid.
I found it upsetting, and quite humiliating since a visit to the hospital two weeks previously had been perfectly executed with no probem or query at all.
Are dentists a law unto themseves?

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imp66
imp66
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

A neighbour met maskless me in the supermarket several months ago and accused me of endangering everyone and being a selfish wotsit. Needless to say that ‘ hero of the state’ has been permanently ‘de- friended’!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Gates has said on a public stage that wearing a mask is as normal as wearing underpants . What a creepy man he is!

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

He is worse than creepy. He is outright dangerous.

Just watch his media appearances and his proclamations about public health. He doesn’t offer his opinion. He talks as if he is calling the shots.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Because he is.

How did the world ever allow this to happen?

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

A very large number of people bought a computer with a Microsoft OS pre installed.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

Exactly – and continue to do so; can you imagine Steve jobs doing/thinking a la Gates??

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Because decades of green ideology, going right back to metaphysics.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Does he also recommend wearing two pencils up your nose and saying ‘Wibble’?

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

In a world without walls or fences, who needs Windows and Gates? 🙂

Billy the Gates has said a great many things during his Guy who luckily had the right parents and knew the right people career and most of it was nonsense.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

But now his deranged obsessions, combined with obscene wealth are a threat to us all.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Perhaps he turned on his mistress by wearing a mask instead of his underpants?

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

“… and you should kneel and thank me.” was the implicit addendum.

Virtue should be its own reward. We made it performative, demanding. and mean spirited.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Which proves that mask was being used as a stressor tool – nothing to do with health at all, but everything to do with seeing what level of compliance there would be in the public. And it worked. Without any critical thinking most of public loved wearing their symbol of virtuosity, which outwardly and immediately made them look like “a good person” – perfect for the new communitarian agenda being very quietly and insidiously installed into society.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Informative comment – thanks!

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

You got it.

EVs, the fatuously called ‘plant based food’,reusable carrier bags, recycling, sighing over our heroic doctors and nurses, caring about the Planet and the Climate, diversity.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Thank you Dr Sidley. For providing a consistent voice of much needed good sense. I’m sure it has not been easy.

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Jo Starlin
Jo Starlin
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Yes, Gary has been on the side of the angels throughout, definitely one of the good guys.

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Dave Bollocks
Dave Bollocks
3 years ago

Well, I’m exempt anyway and reading the law when the ‘mandate’ was first brought in and each time it was updated, it was clear to me that everyone else was too.

Most people don’t read the law though.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Bollocks

To most, it didn’t matter that they could exempt themselves as it wasn’t the point. Virtue signalling was by far the biggest driver in mass mask wearing – and still is for many of those that continue to muzzle up. I’ve lost count of the number of people who just shrug when I’ve asked them why they wear or wore a mask. Everyone else was doing it so they did too.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

It was also a gift to jobsworths everywhere, who could now hassle people almost with impunity.

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Early Doubter
Early Doubter
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Double woke

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Stephanos
Stephanos
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Bollocks

‘Most people don’t read the law though.’
This is only too true. I must admit that when I read the regulations I found it difficult to believe. As I read them it was clear that ANYONE could claim exemptions; examples of ‘reasons’ for exemption were given but these ‘were not exhaustive’
When I attended church for the first time in months (I think it was August/September 2020) I didn’t wear a face-nappy (I refuse to use the official term) and no one said a thing. Later that week someone rang me up and after some highly complimentary remarks about house groups that I ran (and I thought what is this leading up to?) we then got on to the REAL reason which was that I did not wear a face-nappy at church. I told him that I claimed exemption to which he replied ‘oh are there exemptions?’. Clearly he had not even bothered to read the regulations and I strongly suggested that he should.
Since then, apart from one tube journey I have never worn one not even in hospital.
I don’t and didn’t like claiming exemption because it implies that there is something from which to be exempt, which I vehemently deny. My exemption card was printed in Classical Greek. If people can’t read it, that is their problem.
They are vile things so steeped in sin that their only place is hell or a museum of the disgusting and disreputable. Burn them.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Exactly. It’s the most disgusting control device ever imposed on the public, made mandatory on the back of fear, not so much from a virus, but from threats of fines, bullying and being regarded as an “uncaring” person if you don’t comply. And sadly the majority of the public revealed themselves to be either totally obedient without a clue that they could exempt themselves, if only they had the mind capacity to do a teeny bit of research, or complete virtue signallers.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

The first of many more ‘disgusting control devices’ there new tyrants of the Davos Cabal have planned for us!

They have to get rid of our Common Law and Human Rights first – and are busy doing that with liegislation right now!

Who can doubt that this is now a ‘take down’ of the Western democracies – see how the “Five Eyes” come into their own – their ‘eyes’ are on us…not our ‘enemies’.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

5 eyes has gone totally rogue IMHO

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

And yup again

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Yup

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

That is a gratuitously lazy description – for sure some politicians in this countries took up the lockdown cudgel but there has been significant kick back amongst 5 lives citizens, and which is not diminishing by the huge drop in people wearing these things. Having attended an event at the NEC recently, I can report that of the thousands of people there, very very few were masked, as with my own “Supermarketwatch” surveys in the last month.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

The fact is most people now don’t read anything – except text messages.

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

The gubmint even obligingly provided a sample of the wording you could use on your official/unofficial exemption pass, that quite a few people hung on lanyards around their neck. I carried copies of the relevant passages from the legislation and official guidance in my wallet, ready to wave in the face of anyone who challenged me. But nobody ever did. Quite disappointing in its way.

What was also telling, was that the legislation has never sought to define “face covering” (which is the only term used. The word “mask” cannot be found in the legislation). If they were serious about people using a device that could seriously stop the passage of the virus, they would surely have gone into lots of specific detail about the material to be used, the thickness, the way it attaches to the face to cover the nose and mouth etc. etc. But they never bothered with any of that. You could comply with the legislation simply by putting a paper bag over your head with cutout eyeholes if you had wanted. That was the ultimate proof to me that it was total garbage all the way through.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

It’s to dehumanise the wearer, it’s certainly nothing to do with health!

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Not one single NPI that was introduced was designed to protect health. As usual in this Scamdemic the opposite was the case. NPI’s were intended to undermine public health.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

I remember the chap walking round a housing estate in a medieval plague doctor beaked mask. Police asked him to take it off as he was frightening the children. A few months later his face-wear became a legal requirement.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

I remember that. Some young chap in Norfolk, I think. Police gave him “words of advice”, apparently.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Now he does Home-school visits.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

Official government advice included making a mask out of an old T-shirt. They even gave you instructions on how to do it.

The most dangerous plague in history, but a bit cut from an old T-shirt can stop it?

I’ve mentioned this before I know, but to this day I’m still aghast that anyone took this seriously. Surely that alone told them it was all boll-ocks?

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

You are right. They use the term “face covering” to comply with their own published standards that defines what a “mask” actually is. Not only that, if you look at the labelling of gadgets sold to the public, they usually have tiny “get out” clauses printed on the back – 6 point or less, to say they are not medical devices, to avoid prosecution under trading standards. You need a magnifying glass to read that. The underlying standard was https://www.bsigroup.com/globalassets/localfiles/en-gb/product-certification/personal-safety/bsi-guide-for-personal-safety-equipment-0520.pdf

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I hand-wrote my exemption card on a scrap of paper. One person did claim that it wasn’t official. I asked them to go find the process for getting an official one while I did my shopping. Never saw them again.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Well, that was it, wasn’t it? It was made very clear that doctors would NOT provide you with a letter, and that they shouldn’t be asked. In fact the guidance said you could have a home made card, but you didn’t NEED one.
So your scrap of paper actually went beyond the regulations.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

I wore a sunflower lanyard. Best £3.99 I ever spent on Ebay.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Well said

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I told him that I claimed exemption to which he replied ‘oh are there exemptions?’. Clearly he had not even bothered to read the regulations and I strongly suggested that he should.

Well said. If it isn’t that they don’t know that exemptions exist, some people even question like what happened to Mr Bart when he had that altercation with a volunteer in a stately home back in December. When she asked him why he wasn’t wearing a face covering, he replied “I’m exempt” and she sneeringly asked “exempt for what?” to which Mr Bart replied “It’s none of your business.”

When Mr Bart complained to management about the volunteer’s offensive behaviour, he implied that she should thank her lucky stars that it was him she confronted and not someone on the spectrum or an Afghanistan veteran with PTSD as she could have gotten more than what she has bargained for. He also added that management should be reiterating to their staff & volunteers that exemptions exist and to ask about them are in violation of the Equality Act 2010 and the Data Protection Act.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I was refused entry at two local surgeries and a pharmacy. They wouldn’t believe me when I said they were breaking the law. They were all women. I hate bl88dy women with any level of authority, they almost always abuse it, especially when dealing with another woman.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

I have never worn a face nappy. I did initially use the exemption excuse but then I just thought F. it. All the confrontational stuff came from the NHS. Absolutely rotten sods.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And they’re still sticking to it, even now.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Exactly. Those who delved into the civil service bumf about it would have realised that we can all declare exemption, in effect unilaterally, and they published all the bits and pieces to make our own ‘badges’ etc. But out in the open, there has been a lot of deliberate fraudulent marketing to do with it, by the usual suspects.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

But be careful you dont alert the “Snoopers’ when you put them in your multi fuel stove..

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Early Doubter
Early Doubter
3 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

good for you; I too have never ever worn a facemask: tube rider, school visitor, dentist visitor, shops, pubs, Heathrow. Emirates Air….never ever. Only once was hassled in Waitrose by an old guy pretending to be a gentleman and I complained about his harassment of me and Waitrose gave me a bottle of prosecco on the spot as an apology; and once on the Tube by an older parent with a mentally handicapped young man (I guess his son) who said “I see you’re not wearing a mask“, to which I replied he was “seeing correctly, I don’t have to wear a mask.”

Last edited 3 years ago by Early Doubter
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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Bollocks

Sometime ago, I attended to a visitor at my work who nearly passed out due to her mask – told her to take off her mask, got her to sit down & fetched a glass of water. When I asked her if she wanted some more assistance, she said she wanted to sit down longer if that was OK.

We then got chatting and I learned that she had ashtma and suffers from severe migraines, the mask she said has made her ashtma even worse. To which I told her she was exempt and showed her the gov.uk page listing all of them. She said that she was unaware of exemptions but will still carry on wearing masks as she’s afraid of confrontation.

That made me angry, that someone should be forced to restrict one’s breathing because of the fear of others.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

The mandates were evil but she shouldn’t have appeased imaginary enemies at the expense of her own health.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Exactly. I told her that but she’s really that scared to being confronted by others.

Hopefully she’s not wearing one now.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

If altruism is taught as a virtue, people like her will sacrifice their own health and their own mind to imaginary others, they won’t live for their own sake.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Most of this twaddle relied on folks’ reluctance to risk public opprobrium.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

If only she realised that the cowardly ones are the ones hiding behind their masks, like virtue signalling boot lickers. They’re the ones too scared to stand up to diktats telling them they’re not allowed to breath fresh air, let alone attack someone for actually doing so! Honestly, in two years of never wearing a nap only a handful of times have I been approached, all by little door generals, a cab driver, and a receptionist. And every time I’ve firmly said NO..it’s gone no further.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Exactly. Many people don’t realise that it takes just one step – don’t wear the mask. Do it once & never again.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

My 83 year old one-lunged mother in law is equally exempt but wore one for exactly the same confrontation avoiding reason.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Ditto my father-in-law – he had a minor stroke 3 years ago and we told him that he could exempt himself but he carries on wearing on to avoid confrontation.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Bollocks

People used to believe ‘trust us’ Governments – but that’ s all over now ( except for the snoring sheep of course)!

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I would not be so sure. Wait until you see the votes at the next general election. My prediction is that the Tories, who imposed the tyranny and lied through their teeth, will rake in millions as usual; and Labour, who attacked the Tories for not going further and quicker, will garner millions more. You know that one or other of them will form the next government, which will be fat with satisfaction that they are immensely popular for having done the right thing all along.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

If people do not wake up, we face the darkest future imaginable. Whether politics as it now operates can do anything to prevent it is doubtful as it is obvious that our MPs are, for the most part, merely worthless fellow travellers to wherever the Davos Cabal and the WHO choose to take them.

I suspect that the turn out at the next election will be a record low.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

I agree re: turn out. It would be very different – for me at least – if there was a distinct absence of career politicians ( and the current incumbents who object to that description) on the voting slips.

I have thought for many years without any especial prescience that political parties as we know and detest them are anachronistic, redundant, devoid of any beneficial aspect and entirely “self” serving. We need a revolution in representative “entities” which by definition will not be populated by anyone who is a “career” politician.

I do not consider this will result in a worse situation in the UK; it cannot possibly be any worse than the Con/Lab/Lib/Green/PC/SNP/DUP/SF et al cartel that has failed these islands so disastrously since WWII.

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lorrinet
lorrinet
3 years ago
Reply to  186NO

We had better politicians before they destroyed the grammar schools, whence a number of them came. Ordinary people from a range of ordinary backgrounds. Nowadays so many are from privileged families and have been through public school and Oxbridge, then into internships – the smooth, elite passageway to power, never knowing a day’s work in their lives.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Saw a field of sheep near us yesterday. Only one was black, sadly.

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Clear sign of institutional racism. Send the flock for diversity training.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Unfortunately, there are a hell of a lot of sheep!

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Bollocks

Or use their brain. But not to be overlooked, many wanted to wear a mask… playing doctors and nurses for grown-ups.

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imp66
imp66
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Bollocks

I’m exempt too. Because I decided I should be exempt from playing infantile, ludicrous games. I have nothing but contempt for the majority who enthusiastically jumped on board the COVID merry-go-round.

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A Heretic
A Heretic
3 years ago

For as long as a significant number of people continue to believe that masks fulfil a worthy purpose

and herein lies the problem, people didn’t believe the rubbish about protecting others, they truly believe they’re protecting themselves by sticking a piece of cotton in front of their mouths.

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Oh I don’t know, a lot of people think they’re protecting others. I asked a friend recently why she was still wearing a mask and she said because she thought it was ‘the polite thing to do’, a bit like, i suppose, holding the door open for someone.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

So they all believe they are permanently ‘ill’ but showing no symptoms then ( another of Whitty’s ‘ fear bomb gems).

What hope have we got when such stupidity sweeps the land?

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Then I am eternally grateful to them all for having saved my life. Here, take my house and all my savings. And my pet goldfish. It is the least I can do for my noble benefactors.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

My MIL actually believes she is constantly carrying the virus now, so will infect anyone who comes near her…unless the government tells her otherwise that it’s safe to go out. She thinks she is “asymptomatic” even though she is very elderly and vulnerable herself. Despite two years of my husband trying desperately hard to get through to her, she does not/will not absorb any information and chooses to follow the rest of the family with constant jab updates, masking, testing…We were told by the rest of the family that WE’VE changed(!) and that we should stop frightening her with information despite the fact that they’re the ones encouraging her to go along with all this!

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

She’s especially dangerous when she feels well, of course…

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Doing something like this to people fits my definition of evil.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

No they don’t, not really, that’s just what they say to hide their cowardice. If they really believe that masks protect others then the reason they wear them is because they believe everyone’s else should be forced to be muzzled too, TO PROTECT THEM. Fear is causing mask wearing. There is nothing positive about the primative instincts that have been stirred up in people. It is purely about deluded self-preservation.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

I see an elderly couple almost every day while out walking the dog, and we have a ‘nodding acquaintance’. They still wear masks to enter the shop we go to. My guess is they are glued to the BBC at home and are scared silly. We can blame the cynical manipulative government for that and the probably millions of people around the country in a similar situation.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Yes we can blame the government but that too is lazy. The fact remains that too much of the population was lazy, couldn’t be arsed to do some bloody research and so I have very little sympathy.

Over 90% of the people I associate with and particularly family are graduates and post graduates, barring one niece and partner they all went along with this crap even up to triple perforations. I am angry and upset but with them more than the government, sickeningly evil though it is.

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Grahamb
Grahamb
3 years ago

The visibility or not of a mask, combined with shaming and pushing policing of non conformance into wider society is probably the most divisive things I have ever encountered.

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paul smith
paul smith
3 years ago
Reply to  Grahamb

Oh, just wait ’til you see the mob response cooked up more recently over Ukraine, if you haven’t already.
It’ll make the hysteria of the past two years seem tranquil and wholly coherent, in comparison.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

We’ll see a move towards “patriotism” where we need to be seen supporting the government otherwise we’re conspiring with “the enemy”.

That’s how it is was with previous wars. You weren’t allowed to question who the real enemy was – and it was so intense that it’s still the case today.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Well, Union Jacks are still a sign of imperialism: now patriotism is a blue and yellow flag, run up to replace the previous NHS flag, except in Holy Week when it’s pink, blue and white stripes.

“No flag comrade? We’ll see what the Stasi have to say about that.”

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JXB
JXB
3 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Quite. Freedom is now a spectator sport, not one in which the virtuous actually are prepared to participate, just cheer those ‘plucky’ Ukrainians on.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Actual knowledge of historical, economic and political context is not only unvalued, it’s seen as unsporting. Cheer the goodies, boo the baddies.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Grahamb

Devisive, humiliating, fear mongering as intended – the first step to Techno- Fascist Global dictatorship ( ongoing).

Watch the Gates WHO very carefully for their next move against us.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago

Great article and one thing that I’ve noticed with the masks is that its brought out the worst in people, particularly people of a certain age.

They see it fit to harass, bully, hector and probe those who can’t and/or won’t wear them. If they truly believe that their mask protects them then what is it to them if other people don’t wear them.

In addition it has also seen standards of good customer service go downhill as businesses, hospitality, venues, resorts, museums, etc see it fit to bully and treat customers & visitors as lepers.

Of course the mandates are now gone but I for one, won’t forgive or forget.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I’m sure that is true in many cases but I can confidently say that I was never challenged a single time for not wearing a mask in any setting. I am not by nature a confrontational person but I was quite prepared to make a stand on this and I deliberately adopted a confident stance probably bordering on arrogance when I went shopping etc. The vast majority of the population are also not naturally confrontational so my demeanour clearly prevented anyone into ‘having a go’. I did experience the occasional ‘death stare’ or ‘tut-tut’ but when I stared right back they soon dissolved and scuttled off. I also refused to wear an exemption badge as to me that was essentially playing their game.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Good point and agree with you. However Mr Bart had two bad experiences both involving women of a certain age. The second one invovled a volunteer in a stately home which was so bad and offensive that Mr Bart ended up writing a letter of complaint.

As for me, I always adopted a confident stance and had my miserable git face. Always found that having a “you approach me, you’re dead meat” expression stops others in their tracks.

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Similarly, I never played along with it and was almost champing at the bit for confrontation to vent my anger and frustration. The chance rarely presented itself

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

But please be aware that that division was exactly what the government and the SAGE nudgers wanted to achieve. They wanted to see confrontation, anger and resentment simmering between different groups and individuals. Divide and conquer. It worked exceptionally well until it just couldn’t be sustained any more.

Well, this time, at least. But they now have their blueprint for the future.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  paul parmenter

But please be aware that that division was exactly what the government and the SAGE nudgers wanted to achieve.

Yes – an important reminder. It’s all too easy to spend more emotional energy on the compliant than on the creators of this nightmare.

The compliant are all around us; the creatures who planned and inflicted such miseries don’t mix with the likes of us.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Same here. I find that having a strong demeanour is your exemption badge!

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

I did the same as you and had three main challenges in Sainsbury’s, Morrisons & above all Aldi. None at all in Lidl, despite shopping there much more often than the others and never using a mask.

So it might be random or regional variation and Lidl might have a more sceptic UK management. No idea.

I’ve always walked confidently through barriers I object to and waited to be challenged … usually I’m not. I don’t suffer fools gladly. But maybe you’re taller than me …!

Worryingly, the nearest Lidl has a new notice at the entrance saying that the government recommends face coverings in crowded areas. The dystopianism hasn’t gone away unless someone takes an AK47 to *****, ****** and *****.

(Note to DS: Sorry for the profanity and abuse.)

Last edited 3 years ago by John001
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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  John001

It definitely varies. My local Lidl was very relaxed about masks and did virtually nothing to encourage the wearing of them. On the other hand my local Sainsbury’s has been particularly anal.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Dave Angel Eco Warrior

Dunno how you managed that! I’m over six foot tall and big with it so most of the cowardly types leave me alone (they seemed to like to pick on small women and others they thought would be easily intimidated), but even so I still had a fair few run-ins – mostly with supermarket ‘door guardians’ or railway staff. One one occasion I was accosted by no fewer than three plods on a station – presumably they had nothing important to be doing.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Yes, no doubt I have been lucky in many ways as I know of people that have been challenged on occasions. Having said that, my brother and wife adopted exactly the same behaviour as me and they have never been challenged either.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I’m smaller than 5′ 7″ (1.69m, to be precise) and I’ve encountered exactly one person which tried to force me to wear a face rag after I decided that I won’t do this anymore. The attempt was, let’s say, unsuccessful. Got me quite angry, though.

🙂

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Cotton Wool
Cotton Wool
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I agree that people generally are not confrontational they’re just getting on with their own business but you can be unlucky and encounter a virtue signaller. I travel regularly on the London tube and have had no challenges but last year in St David’s 2 ladies, probably in their 30s, in a boat trip office accosted us in a bossy manner asking where are your masks? We walked out and took our custom elsewhere. By contrast, a steam train trip where we were the only maskless persons in the carriage and a visit to Morrisons in Caerphilly passed without any noticeable reactions.  

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

The people who work in the NHS have taken their already well developed harassment, bullying and hectoring to new heights.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Yep. Ditto Specsavers.

They’re like that Japanese solider who hid out in the jungles of the Philippines during the last days of WW2. When he was discovered still alive in the 1970s he had not realised that the war had ended back in 1945 and refused to surrender unless personally ordered by the Emperor.

The Filipino government & Japanese embassy had to get Emperor Hirohito to order this guy to surrender which he did so.

Perhaps that’s what we should do – get the Queen to personally order the NHS, Specsavers, schools, offices, businesses, venues, museums & others still knee deep into this insanity to ceast & desist from treating their patrients, customers, students, employees & visitors like lepers & disease carriers.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I had to get an eye test and new glasses around last May in Specsavers. Have to say they didn’t hassle me, but the paranoia was off the scale, with notices all over the door, all staff wearing masks and visors and those silly plastic aprons, sanitising every surface every five seconds.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

A friend of mine said the same thing. Her next eye test is coming up soon & she’s decided to give Specsavers a wide berth & go to a local opticians or Vision Express instead.

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Our one still makes you queue outside in the cold and rain, whilst the fully PPE’d Door Karen snarls at you to “stand back!” I actually met someone at our Stand in the Park who is a mobile optician so I hope to see her instead – she’s very much in demand at the moment!

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I can assure you that many of the staff don’t want to do those things but are ordered to by whoever owns the franchise.

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Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
3 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Again, that varies. The Specsavers my daughter works at is very relaxed about Covid ‘rules’ whereas the one in my home town is awful.

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olaffreya
olaffreya
3 years ago

Trying to rationalise the irrational continues and invariably ends up in its own hell hole. You don’t need research or studies to inform you that face-coverings are useless and nefarious. That rare commodity intelligence will tell you that. A good friend of mine is currently in hospital and unsurprisingly contracted covid there. Face masks and all working then!

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Every time I see Whitty I think of Billy Hunt’s little ditty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCxpmegbnE

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HaylingDave
HaylingDave
3 years ago

Hmmm, yes, I simply can’t see when the mask mandates for these last bastions of irrationality (hospitals, airplanes, chemists) will crumble – it appears there’s too much prescribed discipline and administrative bluster already invested in the practice to let it go with a quiet whisper.

For example, my wife works for the NHS and when in the office, the mask rules have (just) gotten even more stringent, in March 2022 if you can believe it!

Masks must be worn in the office at your desk the entire time now, but previously, when there was an empty desk between occupied desks, you could eat and drink at your desk only if you turned away from the person in front to face an empty area! Now that all desks are occupied, you cannot eat and drink at your desk and can only do that in the shared kitchen area (mask off, sip drink, mask on, repeat) which, of course, has capacity issues.

What an absolute farce!

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Can you imagine the buzz the pathetic rule makers of these establishments get when they actually see hundreds of people following them

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Or their gormless faces when you tell them to fuck off

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Exactly. At last they have what they’ve always wanted: visible proof of obedience.

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emel
emel
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

No wonder RNHS is collapsing under the weight of its bureaucracy.

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

BA are removing the requirement to be masked up on flights, with effect from tomorrow, I believe?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Wait for hysterical scenes as the one ‘personal choice’ mask wearer demands compliance!

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

If you use masks ‘properly’ you should be washing your hands, before and after touching them and replacing them every time you do with a fresh one from sterile packaging. In my experience most people don’t do the first bit and tend to fish about in a pocket or handbag for whatever they believe constitutes a mask as they are advised they need to wear one.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Ha, I had the self-same thought. Eating will be a lonnnng process if you actually put on the full command performance of Hygiene Theatre.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

mask off, sip drink, mask on

Washing your hands for 20 seconds between each time you touch it, of course?

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Have you ever seen how many fiddle with it all the time?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Frequently those who fiddle with them most are the same people who wear them below their nose. And it’s often a grubby blue disposable face-nappy which they have clearly been wearing for days. Utterly gross!

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sunjor
sunjor
3 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

And when they sit down in an eating establishment put the mask mouth side down on the table, couldn’t believe it first time I saw someone do that.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Don’t forget the mask must be changed for a fresh one every time it is touched. So take big mouthfuls.

Last edited 3 years ago by Jon Garvey
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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Next they will demand people to have everything through a straw which goes under the mouthnosecovering.

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FrankFisher
FrankFisher
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

I have not worn a mask yet and when asked to in chemists or surgeries I just ask for proof they do anything. Lots of anger from the inevitably female gestapo wannabes but nothing else.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

As a retired medic, when it’s the GP or the vet who insist on masking in their establishments, it’s so tempting to ask, “On which particular trial data are you basing this restriction?”

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  HaylingDave

Absolutely; MOH the same and just as pissed off too.

However, if you think the UK is a bastion of woke “Maskery”, take a trip to Germany and see the fear loathing and compulsory “Maskery” there – some folks on this blog would expire through a massive fit of rage – “FFP2” only and you are warned in all settings “Kein FFP2, Kein eintritt”…but then , the “case” count in Germany is the highest in Europe…..

Having said that , if you look hard enough, there are small shots of resistance with some small privately owned venues paying only lip service if that and the locals clearly do not give a sh**. Ausgezeichnet.

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annieob
annieob
3 years ago

In the photo Chris Whitty is shown wearing a cloth mask. Cloth masks have never been used by health workers. Argument 1 (for the deployment of a ‘noble lie’) collapses on this point. If the government initially told a ‘noble lie’ to protect the supply of masks for healthcare workers, ie while genuinely believing that masks stopped spread, why didn’t they just tell the public to wear cloth masks? (Since Whitty himself portrayed himself as believing in them.) This would have had no effect on the supply of masks for healthcare workers. Answer: because there was no noble lie. They knew perfectly well there was no evidence in favour of masks.

Third argument: the issue is the distortion of science, the reliability (or otherwise) of our public health officials, and the honesty (or otherwise) of those with life changing authority over us. This issue is never ‘behind us’. If public health officials lied about masks, they need to be held to account, both for the political health of our country and the medical health of its citizens. A public health establishment that lies and distorts is a danger.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  annieob

If you look at the numerous photographs of Whitty, Vallance and Johnson (a horrible thing to do, I admit), along with all the other silly politicians, you will see that, by and large, they are all cloth masks; many with tasteful patterns and adornments. It’s just theatre for many, and delusional protection for a lot more.

Not so much wearing your heart on your sleeve, as your stupidity, dishonesty and gullibility across your face.

Last edited 3 years ago by Hopeless - "TN,BN"
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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless - "TN,BN"

Attached – an interesting hospital poster. Should Whitty not discipline it for dangerous misinformation?

Copy_of_Face_masks_only_poster-_visitors_version_4.jpg
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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

By coincidence, I think the more useless the management the more intrusive the rules.

Worcester Hospital has rather a reputation in the region for poor or indifferent care.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

There have been many such erroneous posters – a complete absence of the word “exempt”…

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  annieob

The funniest one was some minister i think SavageRabit wearing a cycling mask… These have an exhale vent on a flap…

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  annieob

I thought that as a very sceptical MP it would be very easy to ask extremely difficult questions of Whitty and others when they appeared before the relevant Select Committee – taking a leaf out of Rand Paul’s book with Fauci – must admit I did not see all of these encounters, but the ones I did see where very benign and almost respectful.

Nuff said of our world class career politicians and their quango appointees.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

So, as late as 28 August 2020 JennyHarries was at No 10 telling us that there was not “strong” scientific evidence for masks but it was “supportive” ie a nudge technique https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/uknews/video-2239200/Video-Dr-Jenny-Harries-Evidence-face-coverings-isnt-strong.html
They even tell you what they are doing and people lap it up. She might have said “We want everyone to do this because it makes you apprehensive and subservient”.

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Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
3 years ago

Whitty says what he’s paid to say, much like the MSM.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Aletheia of Oceania

Indeed, the whole point of having scientists on the government payroll is that it should result in them being independent.

Having scientists who are on the public purpose but also major shareholders in pharmaceutical companies is farcical. We might as well just ask Pfizer for orders.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

The whole point of having government scientists is that they spout whatever rubbish the government wants to them to say, at any given millisecond.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

And if the government has big investements in GAVI, or personal shares in AstraZeneca, so much the better for their scientists to have industry dependence.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

If the scientists are entirely dependent on government for funding, so much the better for the government, such fantasists masquerading as scientists are not going to say the government should do nothing.

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MikeHaseler
MikeHaseler
3 years ago

They will certainly resurface, as will the mass marketing campaign of terror porn from Big Pharma trying to line its pockets by terrorising the public into buying its latest useless “remedy”.

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Francis64
Francis64
3 years ago

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Hester
Hester
3 years ago

Don’t hold your breath, there will never be an apology for what he and the rest of them have done, they follow in the Tony Blair school of arrogance, likewise Whitty will never apologise or admit that he has caused the deaths and injury of children through the needless injection of a failed and dangerous covid 19 fake vaccine.
To apologise is to admit they got it wrong and to to risk a court case, he and the rest of them have no conscience, no morals or ethics all they understand is money, greed, power and contempt.

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Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
3 years ago

It was clear from very early on, for anybody that engaged the critical thought process and did a bit of research, that the evidence for the efficacy of mask’s was a big fat zero! For me, the mask’s represented an overt indicator as too who the cretinous and the compliant were and are…still!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Bolloxed Britannia

They really stand out now, don’t they!

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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

Masks do not appear to prevent the spread of respiratory infections. It is hypothesised that this is because the infections spread on very small aerosols which would require specialist high-tech masking (probably full-face) to prevent.

It is also hypothesised that crowded areas with poor ventilation are major places where these infections spread.

Leaving Covid aside, flu causes a lot of disruption, suffering and death every year. If we had spent a fraction of the money we had spent on vaccines and lockdown RESEARCHING the actual spead of respiratory illnesses, and then developing appropriate working countermeasures – perhaps better ventilation techniques for commuter trains and offices? – then we would have done something useful.

As it is, we wasted a lot of money, made some entrepreneurs very rich, killed a lot of people and disrupted our society to no advantage whatsoever.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Whilst I agree with the author that masks are/were the most insidious aspect of covid theatre, I think we’re looking for answers in the wrong place. Whitty was just a sorry local executor of a powerful global campaign. I would guess that the push to mask the world probably originated in a PR office in New York, and was probably inspired by the Japanese commuters wearing masks, and to encourage and cement unthinking communitarianism. Masks were the chosen aesthetic of the campaign – you can see it in WEF videos that predate the plandemic. Powerful corporate forces were at work and Whitty was clearly taking orders from government who in turn were taking orders from the globalists.
Chris Whitty knows full well that masks don’t work and told us as much. He should have resigned when he was asked to repeat this gibberish in public. I hope that he feels ashamed of his collusion with this and other scientifically preposterous public health measures. He disgraced his position, his country and helped send science back to the Dark Ages.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Whitty, as I recall, published a graph at a press conference, not saying it was a prediction but knowing full well it would be treated as one, saying that, without a lockdown, Britain would have four thousands deaths per day, more than the worst day in India, a country with twenty times Britain’s population.

Whitty is Trofim Lysenko, as is Anthony Fauci, as is Patrick Vallance and all their counterparts apart from Anders Tegnell in Sweden. This disaster was the result of green ideology being taught all over the world, the doomsday cultism of both lockdown and environmentalism is the common factor and that has nothing to do with ‘corporate interests’.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

I remember that- no questions allowed, just a presentation. We would have needed anywhere between half to one million infections per day to achieve and sustain this ridiculous figure, but no-one questioned it. It took me roughly 30 seconds to work out it was utter nonsense, yet everyone I know seemed to fall for it. I was derided for questioning ‘The Science’. I have always thought most people were gullible sheep, but even I was staggered by all this.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

Due to the ridicule the press conference received, I genuinely thought this would be the end of lockdown etc.

Not only was I wrong, there was more than a year to go and Kim Jong Johnson was only prevented from locking down again by threats of the sack from his backbenchers.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

“Malfeasance in Public Office” – 4 words Whitty & CO should come to fear greatly.

I will not hold my breath.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  186NO

‘Complete bag of shyte’ – a suitable description for Whitty.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

What I do not “get” is that a seemingly intelligent person – he must have some brain power capacity to get his professional qualifications – does not “get” that people are able to access information which destroys his “case” a she presents ( often using completely dubious presentational techniques and skewed data) – be it from replaying his initial stated stance on masks (basically useless) to continuing to promote “vaccines” in spite of unequivocal evidence of their complete lack of “net” efficacy ( alleged benefit vs real word adverse effects/long term damage ).

What effect does he think he has on “sceptical” people or anyone else for that matter – spouting bollox from his Ivory Tower?

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  186NO

I think it’s called evasion. He evades reality and hopes everyone else does as well, the human mind is his enemy, as it is for every dictator or doctator.

He requires faith from the masses, something he mostly got.

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snoozle
snoozle
3 years ago

To add to objection 1: when they introduced mask mandates, they gave instructions about how to make a mask from an old t-shirt, old knickers, etc. They could very well have done that earlier whilst still protecting the supply of medical grade masks for the NHS.

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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago

….the U-turn by Whitty and many others – represents a stark example of a ‘scientific’ approach that has become much more prevalent throughout the COVID-19 era: ‘Decide on a policy, and then search for any evidence that might support it.’ 

I have some news for Dr Sidley. This technique has been used by Local Planning Officers for the last 50 years to my certain knowledge, and has become widely accepted during the Climate Change panic – so much so that climate scientists are now enjoined to MAKE UP evidence to provide support for this completely fabricated but highly lucrative panic.

The fabrication of evidence means that a completely erroneous policy can maintain apparent justification and teh support of teh courts and politicians long after it has been proven to be untrue……

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago

The involvement of the BIT people suggests to me that, rather than for actual reasons of health, the mask mandate was introduced as an ‘indicator’.

By their use, they give an immediate representation of just how many people are following the rules, simply by looking out of the window. And, secondly, they encourage others to fall in line by shaming them into doing it too… nobody likes to go against the grain.

Both of these features were set out clearly in the early proposal documentation put forward by BIT, Mindspace and SAGE.

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rtj1211
rtj1211
3 years ago

I’m afraid what is required is a categorical admission that lying and corruption was afoot and was entirely due to the links to the BMGF funding streams.

All the liars, serially useless modellers and self-righteous control freaks have bad BMGF funding.

It must in future be regarded as a badge of dangerously unreliable selling of the soul to receive such funding.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  rtj1211

You know it, I reckon 99.99% of folks who access this site now it, I think I know it – the issue is , how do “the rest” get to “know” it…difficult but not impossible?

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Moderate Radical
Moderate Radical
3 years ago

Just saw this under a bridge in Barnstaple, North Devon. It warmed the cockles of my heart, I tell ya.

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kate
kate
3 years ago

The abnormal clots contain white cells and fibrin – holding large amounts of protein which makes them rubbery.
They are directly formed by the impact of the spike on blood. And as spike lasts for a long time in the body, (because the genetic instructions from the vax create an artificially stable spike protein that we now know is persistent) the clotting process continues, and the clots build.
Steve Kirsch has had two vaxxes, so I do not know how he feels about his prospects.

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SJR
SJR
3 years ago

I absolutely hate masks, I hate that they’re dehumanising, and I hate the way they’ve been used to signal virtue and make people compliant.

I’ve tended to avoid places that require them, but more recently I just claimed exemption all the time, with no real problems.

I’ve only worn one twice, both under duress.

The first was when getting tested for Covid after coming down with a nasty case of the bug (Delta version). I was hoping to get through the entire ‘pandemic’ without being tested, but in this case it was needed so I could tell my employer I’d got the bug/

The second was when going for an MRI scan at a private hospital and being forced to wear one, as they wouldn’t let me have the scan without it.
45 minutes stuck in a scanner with a mask on my face…
I almost walked out, but I needed the scan.

By contrast when I had an eye problem the NHS eye casualty department were fine with me claiming exemption.

My wife is going for a hospital checkup today and she’s claiming exemption as the hospitals still insist on the Covid theatre. She had a lot of hassle last time, so she’s had to speak to them firmly and say she wants no hassle this time. We’ll see how she got on later…

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kate
kate
3 years ago

This has just come in on Steve Kirsch’s substack.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/pathologist-ryan-cole-on-the-mysterious?s=r
Pathologist Ryan Cole on the mysterious blood clots
I interviewed Dr. Ryan Cole on the mystery blood clots that are seen in up to 93% of embalmer cases. He received tissue samples from the embalmers.
Bottom line: Dr. Cole had no other explanation for these clots which can kill people other than the vaccine. It didn’t happen during COVID at all.
Silence from the CDC on all of this (as you’d expect).
You’d think with this affecting up to 93% of cases, the CDC might be just a little interested? No chance.
You might think the mainstream press would cover this? No chance.

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186NO
186NO
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

McCullough and others have shown samples from the Mayo Clinic in recent months, same evidence.

I have contacted my GP to see if they will instigate a D-Dimer test screening for all their patients who are jabbed. Denied in a telecon – so now I am going to put that in writing to the senior partner and await his written response; they have trumpeted these jabs, now lets see if they will deal with the consequences.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

Whitty works for Globalism, Tedros and Gates at the WHO -not the British people – he had an agenda.

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Trabant
Trabant
3 years ago

I’m currently on a train to London and there’s just been an announcement:
“As a courtesy to others please wear a face covering, if possible.”
🤦‍♂️

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

…..don’t fart?

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

…question everything, stay sane, live free?”

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

‘Moral blackmail’ – guilt trippiing- one of the many psyop methods they use!

HM the Queen was told to say that people refusing the jabs were “selfish”- remember?

( Gove had said the same earlier in the week – what a coincidence!)

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

It’s messaging like this that tell you this is NOTHING to do with health but everything to do with changing society’s behaviour and pushing the “common good”. It doesn’t even say “…if you are ill”! And your average unthinking normie will just go along with it, already brainwashed after two years of conditioning. Look at the reform to the Human Rights Act to be slipped quietly through, with the new meaning which is something like “do as you will as long it benefits the greater good! ” We are in very dangerous waters.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

Might as well also have messages about smelly farts.

As a courtesy to others if you had a curry last night please travel on the overgound.

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pjar
pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

lol – my son flew to the States recently. The woman in the seat next to him took up two seats and had an apparently bottomless bag of delicacies that she munched on through the entire journey, including dried fish… some people just don’t do ‘courtesy’!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

LOL Perhaps “she” was Eddie Murphy in a fat-suit method acting for a new film?

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Nothing wrong with dried fish. One of the most heinous crimes committed by the EU was to put the mockers on one of my favourite curry accompaniments, the dried bummalo fish, known as Bombay Duck.

There is, however, a time and place for everything, including the consumption of such delicacies, and an aircraft cabin isn’t one of them.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

Some of the rail companies really don’t want to let this go – they were consistently bad through the whole shitdhow and really took to the whole authoritarian, lecturing, bullying approach (and sneering over the tannoy in some cases about people who didn’t ‘understand’ what only using the window seats meant). They must also have provided considerable income to the manufacturers or stripey tape.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

TFL are certainly guilty of that and Mr Bart & I have complained about a particularly nasty driver who repeatedly made very passive-aggressive, patronising and clearly offensive announcements.

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

It’s constant on trains and platforms, posters all over the place. It’s always about courtesy, respect, protecting others, etc.- you are never mentioned. I was told to wear one so as not to ‘upset’ others or ‘make them anxious’- as if they needed any help with this. I refused, pointing out that I am not responsible for other people’s irrational fears. I was not popular.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago
Reply to  annicx

They’re not all like that now. The other day I went to the Glos Warwickshire Railway between Cheltenham Race Course and Broadway, and almost no one used them. Just one of the ticket inspectors on a train, and one of the volunteers in one of their cafės, and that was about it, and there were reasonable numbers of people there on family days out. I guess if you look at the Races at Cheltenham this week, there won’t be any.

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mariawarmth
mariawarmth
3 years ago

I have witnessed the social emotional and development damage mask have done to school children. In my school it is like the elephant in the room, nobody talks about it although it clearly has affected our students, some now want to wear them as they can hide emotionally behind them!!!!
I have tried to introduce this damage narrative in a polite information way to senior management but to no avail and colleagues are demonstrably tight lipped!
Therefore it is not enough for Witty and those responsible to admit this catastrophic diktat, I will never be at ease unless there more serious due process consequences. I have also been damaged emotionally as I have had to watch and experience this criminal act against children and us, whilst trying to pick up the pieces for these students. Exhausted

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Bellacovidonia
Bellacovidonia
3 years ago

I completed a masters in Behavioural Economics. . Our focus was economics of health and during the first year I noticed a shift in how we addressed evidence. Our professors (who had previously emphasised destructively testing every bit of data),cooled on confronting the Covid consensus. They discouraged us from touching Covid data or questioning the efficacy of research. Some of us suspected that was because the Covid funding taps were turned on and suddenly being critical of lockdowns, masking or social distancing, was off the agenda. It was “too early and there was too much noise”. We were told. But if you wanted to do a PHD saying how masking and social distancing were a great idea. ‘Fill your boots” . Lots of wannabe BIT hacks will be making their way into academia as a result. These people are uncritical, have no minds if their own and are at best competent number crunchers as we all were, however they all drunk the cool aid. We used the odious health messaging of Michie and Reicher and it was quite clear they were promoting masks and other measures as a compliance tool. When I suggested this was authoritarian and highly questionable one of the Covidians doing a PhD , said. ” what’s wrong with that people need to comply”.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellacovidonia

Excellent informed comment – how refreshing !

On another Covid Front, see See Tess Lawrie’s interview with Andre Hill for the truth about the deliberate suppression of Ivermectin use and the influence of GAVI in the unjustified decision

Nothing was allowed to stop the forcing of the mRNA Gene Therapies on the world.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

They will bring masks back when the ‘second wave’ of their Medical Assault on the population is introduced- Gates has been warning of more Nasty Viruses and when has achieved compliance of the major powers in handing over their national health policy to his Tedros WHO he will try to see the UN to use sanctions and force to achieve it..

Johnson has already rolled over !

Sad to see how many traumatised children now think masks are ‘normal’ and wear them anyway – I suppose that was the idea!

Now we have the war in Ukraine they fermented by provoking Russia as a second front and an excuse to wreck world trade, make out lives a total misery with 20% inflation o the way, freezing homes and manufactured food shortages – the perfect time to impose rationing and digital currency !

Meanwhile Johnson, Patel, Raab Dorries and Javid work on pushing thorough their legislative plans to take away more of our freedoms and Human Rights with no opposition form “Trilateral Commission” ( founded by Kissinger and Rockefeller) Globalist Starmer..

Dutch Government gives itself the power to ‘sequester’ (seize) private property to house Ukrainian “refugees”. Get ready to ‘own nothing and be happy” (Schwab).

Will people ever wake up and see the next moves in this?

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Indeed…The Bill of Rights was put in place to stop that very thing.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

To be scrapped ( or rather simply ignored) by Raab.

No 1688, no “Seven Judges” we can trust this time!

In fact not one currently in service and only one ‘retired’.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

“Will people ever wake up?”

‘You can’t put a quart in a pint pot’. It’s not about ‘waking up’ it’s about the ability to be able to think for yourself, and a good percentage obviously can’t.
So, no, they are not going to ‘wake up’. They will continue to do as they are told.

Anyway, even if people ‘woke up’ what are they going to do? “Inciting insurrection” is not an option. Back to Parliament Square to meet friends, have a jolly time and wave a placard?

Then there’s joining the Guardians300 if you fancy pretending to be a ‘Common Law Constable’ or the Alpha Male Assemble if you feel tough enough to kick empty cardboard boxes.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

“Back to Parliament Square to meet friends, have a jolly time and wave a placard?”

Are you jealous you weren’t able to do that in Finland? Our “jolly time” seems to have got us further than your strategy over there.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Not at all – you are only ‘enjoying’ what the Government has ‘generously’ given back.
At no time were any Government ministers of members of SAGE quaking in their wellies.
As you still see in Wales & Scotland where wrinkly Drakeford and Queen Nicola are still cracking the whip.

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

“What we require is a clear and unambiguous acknowledgement that our political leaders, with support of Government scientists, inflicted an intervention on the British people that was unethical, ineffective and harmful”

It will never happen. The government chose to wage undeclared psychological warfare on the citizens they are supposed to serve as their strategy for achieving compliance with their flawed policies. The lies they told could not possibly be walked back now or ever, it would be too damaging for too many, too senior officials, and would provoke widespread outrage.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

The Government has used (unnecessary) Emergency Powers to behave with questionable legality throughout – they have neutered the Met Police in Hammersmith and blocked their enquiry into serious criminal offences alleged committed by those in High Places and have now made their behaviour the ‘new normal’ and yet not one single High Court or Supreme Court judge has stood up to defend the ancient Civil and Human Rights of the British people and called on the need to investigate what could be the most serious of crimes against them.

The Elite have sold us out to Gates and Schwab.

Johnson is sprawling over and trashing 1,000 years of British Constitutional history and our Common Law freedoms and heritage and not a single element of our British Establishment has said a word.

The Globalist Techno – Financial and Medical Fascism they so eagerly embrace will not be pleasant for all those left ‘below the line’ of privilege.

But then we have a stealth ‘population policy’ as well – don’t we?
What did Gates say again? Wasn’t it something like “Vaccines” will help us bring it down by 10- 15%?
Whatever did he mean?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Writing’s been on the wall since Arch Tyrant Blair abolished Double Jeopardy to wage lawfare on some politically useful drug gang footsoldiers..

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

This is something I find frightening. I know no-one who has died of covid. However, I now know two people who have died before their time. Both gone in their sleep, but nothing really wrong with them other than getting on a bit (early 70s). No-one really seems to know what they died of, other than their hearts just stopped! Now today, another. Late 60’s and previously fit and healthy, diagnosed with lung cancer in the past few weeks, now in hospital with pneumonia and tested positive for covid also, not expected to survive. All these people are triple jabbed. I also have a similarly jabbed friend whose health has deteriorated so badly in the last twelve months I don’t expect her to go on much longer. Previously she was fit, healthy, active travelling abroad three times a year etc.
Why can’t TPTB see this, when others can?

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kate
kate
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

The father of a family firm I employed recently has gone blind following his vaccine. (Blood clots in optic nerve) He is now suicidal, previously fit and healthy and running a successful business.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

The Powers That Be are only interested in quaffing champagne, stuffing their faces with vol au vents, and picking up knighthoods so that people have to call them ‘Sir’ and ‘Lady’ – what do they care that plebs are dying of heart attacks from the vaccines?
Plenty more cheap labour washing up on the beaches every day!

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

I guess because they’re not interested.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

Nothing can justify any of it, not just Whitty but the whole establishment in the UK and globally.

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caravaggio57
caravaggio57
3 years ago

I think that this being overthought.
The politicians and the ‘elite’ employed the ‘scientists’ as a human shield. To do their lying for them. To validate their lies.
Politicians lie routinely. The old adage has been proven over and over again.
The ‘Scientists’ have been shown to have been corrupted by their paymasters. The adage now applies to them as well.
Never forget.

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mariawarmth
mariawarmth
3 years ago

I would lose my job for far less

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago

Reasons for the mask-mantra must be speculative in such a secretive propaganda state as ours, but probably America is the place to look for clues, Whitty and Co being beholden to the US. In particular the Fauci/Gates axis is adequate to explain whatever happened.

Fauci changed his position around mid April, just as US cases/deaths began to drop. And the WHO “under political pressure” (which surely means from its two greatest paymasters, the USA and BMGF) did so in June, as US deaths reached their lowest. The same pattern was occurring in northern latitudes elsewhere, but “When America sneezes, the world catches a cold,” or it does until the dollar collapses any time soon, so was the main PR market.

The decline in the pandemic would surely produce hope and “complacency” amongst the US public, long before the intended vaccines were ready to market, so something had to be done to keep fear going long enough to ramp up demand for the Product. Masks were a universal billboard for danger, as were visors, cloth masks, mufflers or anything visibly “on yer face.”

I suspect the NHS is pushing masks even harder (a special reminder sent from our GP only last week) simply because they are still marketing injections. “See the danger on the faces – get a booster.”

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Sharing the scaring is how I’d term face coverings.

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The old bat
The old bat
3 years ago

A lot of it’s about virtue signalling, isn’t it? Masks are now yesterday’s virtue signal because it’s been replaced with a new one – housing Ukrainian refugees. Call me cynical but is this the UK government trying to get back the workforce it lost after Brexit? Will these people be housed according to their skill sets? How about if these do-gooders were asked to take a ‘boat person’ instead? They would probably throw up their hands in horror. Person displaced by war in the Ukriane; good. Person displaced by war in the middle east; bad.
I also find it very sad that people wear masks simply so no-one ‘tells them off’. Honestly, how do these people manage their lives if they are so terminally wet?

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annicx
annicx
3 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

It does make you wonder- in fact I wonder how we’ve survived this long as a species…

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

Never forget folks. Bring the likes of Whitty to justice and make them explain themselves under oath.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago

With Fauci/ Faustus being in witness protection according to the DeSantis clip below at 1.36, how long before we extend the same to Witless, Unbalanced,Panasonic Handycock etc etc

https://youtu.be/5bnkIqQRjbg

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RW
RW
3 years ago

Without a repeatable lab experiment which reliably causes infection, no real research about what does and doesn’t prevent infections can be done. Hence, all of these masking studies are nothing but a waste of time. The same is essentially true for all post-March-2020 so-called infection control measures. They’re all just impositions someone really believes to be sensible and someone’s unsubstantiated beliefs should never justify any imposition.

Even when this was different, there’s still the question which kind of ends would justify which kinds of impositions. Whitty’s strongest pro-mask statement (I remember) was that these may prevent up to 10% of all infection events. The first thing to note here is the may. This implies may as well not. Obviously, when our so-called expert advisors aren’t even themselves convinced that their advice makes any sense, one shouldn’t act upon it.

When assuming there was a will instead of a may in this sentence, this would mean that everybody will still get infected but that the peak number of concurrently ill people (assuming that all infections will eventually lead to actual sickness, something that’s known to be wrong) would be 1/10 less than without masks. Surely, if the health systems would collapse when 100% of the members of some group would need hospital treatment at the same time, reducing the absolute number by 1/10 would still cause health system collapse.

Pulling this together, the points against mask mandates would be

  • we don’t know what – if any – effect this actually has and we’re currently incapable to determine this
  • the pro-mandate people don’t even claim that this measure works
  • even if it did, it wouldn’t help

Hence, mask mandates are a monkey see, monkey do measure whose only guaranteed effects are manufacturer profits and large-scale environmental pollution.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

It brings to mind for me a memoir of Laurens van de Post about growing up in South Africa. He was taught to hate and despise the hyena and his mind was fixed in such a state until one night as he was walking home he saw a hyena skulking home to its den. He said that he gazed at it and it had the saddest and loneliest eyes that he had ever seen and from that moment on he had profound pity for the hyena. This is how I feel about Whitty. Of course there are questions to be asked about how we as a society allowed such figures to achieve such sway and prominence.The machinery was in place beforehand. They even acted out drills that were in the public domain about how they would manage the situation. You are dealing with a level of warfare that sees our petty critique as utterly laughable.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Wittery spoke sense on 11 May 2020 – but it seems he was given a stiff talking to because he was never quite the same again. I suppose a sweetener has helped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adj8MCsZKlg

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scaredmama
scaredmama
3 years ago

On the other hand…. If they start doing facial recognition software, a mask might be just the thing when worn with a generic baseball cap.

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Human Resource 19510203
Human Resource 19510203
3 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Then it will be illegal to wear one. And dark glasses. And a hoodie or any other form of head gear. I wonder how they’ll deal with the hijab, niqab and burka afficianadoes.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
3 years ago

One thing the last two years has taught me is that there are a lot of not very bright people around with common sense re: the uslessness and in fact dangers of mask wearing. And in this camp I include people whom I previously thought were bright but fear has meddled with their minds.

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Human Resource 19510203
Human Resource 19510203
3 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

I have regarded the last two years as a mass continuous IQ and due diligence test which, I’m sad to say, the overwhelming majority have failed.

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
3 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Propaganda rules OK

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Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago

Interesting reading for me as a Scot living under the regime of the Scottish Government. Our mask wearing requirements have been extended.as they’re making such a difference. Apparently…

Sometimes I believe I’m living in a mirror world. I read all these articles about the harms of lockdown, masks, vaccinations and watch videos made by intelligent, sensible people out to find the truth then see politicians doing more of the same. Worse still is seeing people agree with them.

I despair. I really do.

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imp66
imp66
3 years ago

They are muzzles, not masks. Muzzles to keep the compliant afraid and judgemental of others. Muzzles to signify that there is ‘danger’ in the environment. Muzzles to identify the ‘ virtuous’ and the ‘ selfish’. I was at a theatre last night: still approx. 10% of the audience were gimped up, as were all staff. If one is so wary of catching or spreading a viral disease, surely the safest tactic is to stay at home, hiding behind the sofa? Leave living to the rest of us, an increasingly sceptical population.

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Corky Ringspot
Corky Ringspot
3 years ago

Working as supply teacher at local school (Norfolk); started feeling crappy yesterday, so did an LFT and yes, positive, so had to go home. Did the test in a school classroom where a teacher happened to be working (at the other end of the room). As I left, he asked if I had a mask. “Why would I have a mask?” I asked, “The school dropped the requirement three weeks ago. Besides, as a science teacher [for the young fellow was a science teacher], you must know that masks are pretty much useless, right? I can show you many respected forms of evidence…” Shock and bewilderment; he looked ready to call for Matthew Hopkins, Witchfinder General. “But wearing one is a common courtesy!” “‘common courtesy’?”, I replied, “So as a science teacher you’ve implied that you agree that masks are useless, and as a teacher I presume you undertand that the psychological harm done, especially to CHILDREN IN SCHOOLS, is considerable, right? Every class I’ve been with in this school includes at least a couple of kids who are terrified when not wearing a mask. I’ve tried to coax them out of the damn things many times. Clearly, the net consequence of mask wearing is damaging. If you know this, why do you think it a ‘common courtesy’ to wear one? Why reinforce that terrible fear in the heads of these poor children? Isn’t it a ‘common courtesy’ NOT to wear one, given those simple facts?” Response came there none – just staring disbelief. A heretic! Pitchforks and torches!
I’ve almost certainly lost any further chance of teaching at that school – but it was worth it.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Corky Ringspot

Now what would have happened if you hadn’t tested yourself… with a test kit Made in China known for producing unreliable results?

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I was thinking the same. Why test? Why not just do what we all used to do – go home, take a Lemsip and a toddy and go to bed for a while? If anyone had asked ”where is she?” the answer could be loosely the truth ”She had a pain in the neck”.

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Martin Frost
Martin Frost
3 years ago

What disturbs me most is that the voluntary wearing these paper nappies is fast becoming a permanent feature of our lives. This is the direct result of saturation propaganda through the mainstream media. I do not believe an admission now by Chris Whitty of the ineffectiveness of masks would be enough. We are becoming a nation of germ obsessed neurotics. I think Peter Hitchens got it right when early on in the panicdemic, he threatened to wear his Warsaw Pact gas mask. A campaign of open mockery of mask wearers may be the most effective way of getting at least some of them to come to their senses.Cruel perhaps but necessary for the greater public good.

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  Martin Frost

How would you do it? Point and start laughing?
On the 5th of March I was walking in a beautiful country park in Leicestershire with my dog and a friend and her dog.The weather was windy and there were a lot of people enjoying the freedom. No masks to be seen other than, yes five Chinese visitors in a clutch masked up to the eyebrows. Some people wll never give them up.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

The WHO itself (spit) made the statement very openly back in the summer of 2020 that masks are ineffective but ‘serve to remind people to obey the rules’.
I wish I’d kept the link.

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Epi
Epi
3 years ago

“The war against masking, this most insidious of all the COVID-19 restrictions, is not yet won.”

Correct and it’s not just people still wearing the abominations. Shops still have those stupid STOP! signs put up by local government plastered all over their windows. I have now taken to walking in and politely asking why they still have them when it is no longer mandatory. The response has been quite good especially when I have volunteered to take them down on their behalf.The latest was yesterday at my hairdresser. “Oh” said the lady “I’ve been meaning to take that down but keep on forgetting”. Trouble is the more people see these the more it seeps into their brains that it’s normal and here to stay and thus the more people will carry on wearing them. THE SIGNS HAVE TO GO. Think I’ve been into about 20/30 shops so far but plenty more to do. Please do the same.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Epi

It would be nice to have a list of all those who snitched to the Police on people ‘breaking the rules’ during lockdowns. Names and addresses printed out and stuck up in all shop windows, bus stops, at the library, etc!

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Epi

Yes, indeed. If I see a small shop now with ”Please wear a mask” on the door, I walk inside and tell them (politely) they’ve just lost my custom because I will NOT ”wear a mask” just to please THEM.

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Early Doubter
Early Doubter
3 years ago
Reply to  Epi

Take down the signs yourself, either sneakily or boldly rip them off and hand them to the shopkeeper saying “this is not lawful now”.

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Richard
Richard
3 years ago

What I would like to know is why, if masks are, as we all believe a complete nonsense, the medical profession still persist in wearing them? I have since restrictions were lifted had to visit my doctor, my dentist and my optician, all of which were still operating in full masked up gear as if the scamdemic was still at its height!

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard

I visited my dentist yesterday. It was even more theatrical than it was six months ago. Not allowed through the door unless you phone them from the car park. (All very well if you have a mobile phone.) Some officious muzzled teenager asking me if I had a mask (”No, I don’t wear one.”) Then holding up a huge bottle of gunk to spray on my hands. (”No, I don’t use it.”) Then asking ”Any vaccinations?” (”No.”) Then ”Have you had covid?” (”Probably a few weeks ago but didn’t test.”) Then ”Have you got any symptoms?” (”No.” Beginning to spit with frustration.)

She then took what looked like a Derringer from the side table and pointed it at my forehead. It didn’t go off so I presume it was a thermometer.

Then on to the waiting room where seats had signs ”Seat Ready To Be Used”, where she handed me a pen and clipboard. ”I hope you sanitised these” I said. Immune to irony she said ”Of course, AND the seats.”

Fortunately the hygienist and dentist seemed normal, if muzzled. When I left, I refused the gunk again, so the door had to be opened for me.

For crying out sodding loud.

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Richard
Richard
3 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Brilliant! I know exactly what you mean! 🙂 That was more or less the same experience!! As you say FFS!!

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Tillysmum
Tillysmum
3 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Paying to be humiliated.

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Willybolly17
Willybolly17
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard

I cannot understand why my doctor, dentist and my wife’s podiatrist insist on wearing masks and insist that we do. I don’t wish to lie as I do not have an exception- how do we stop this madness if these professionals cannot understand that masks don’t work?

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MONE
MONE
3 years ago

Can we get rid of all mask mandates in NI and the fact that they’re “strongly recommended”. The need to go in all areas of life – hospitals, schools, colleges, universities, doctors’ surgeries – I could go on.

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Michael Staples
Michael Staples
3 years ago

I was watching a medical drama on TV last night and wondering how they were ever going to be dramatised in future, if the whole time the characters will be masked, as in the current NHS, last redoubt of the mask Nazis. My dentist wears one of the sophisticated masks that might filter viruses but most people in the NHS, as do the patients, wear the loose fitting ones, which can have no practical effect. The latter demonstrated by Covid infection spread in hospitals being always extensive.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Michael Staples

My stepdaughter is in the middle of her nurse training. When we go out, she dutifully dons a muzzle in restaurants, shops, etc. I refrain from asking her WHY for the sake of our good relationship. But it’s a struggle.

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Michael Staples
Michael Staples
3 years ago

Looking at both the House of Commons and House of Lords, most members are now, thankfully maskless, but the clerks and other staff are fully muzzled. Are our legislators adopting one rule for them and another for their poor staff?

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Grumman
Grumman
3 years ago

For this alone this man should be shot. Not medicine, nor science from counterpart Valance, just plain criminal manipulation. A gift to the totalitarians, men utter bereft of sense or compassion. History will judge them, we won’t get the chance.

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