Putting tights over a face mask improves its fit and filtration properties, a study from Cambridge University into ‘hacks’ for improving the effectiveness of face masks has found. Something to include in the next mandate, then. The Mail has the story.
As part of a new study, Cambridge University experts reviewed a variety of DIY hacks people have used to make masks fit better, including using rubber bands or tape.
Curiously, they found the most effective tactic was to wrap pantyhose around the bottom half of the face – on top of a mask.
This, the scientists said, could reduce the amount of viral particles by up to seven times more than a loose mask on its own, by sealing the gaps around the nose and mouth.
But recognising the social and physical implications of wearing tights on your face in public, they noted it was “unlikely to be tolerated for extended periods of time”.
The jury is still out on how effective mask-wearing is at reducing Covid infections at a population level, with conflicting results from both sides. Most scientists agree that they at least make a small contribution.
Tight-fitting medical grade masks, such as KN95s, are exceptional at blocking out the virus but they are often described as uncomfortable and are harder to acquire.
The most common surgical or cloth masks are far less resistant.
The researchers measured how well the masks fit by monitoring the filtration efficiency and calculating a ‘fit factor’ score. Surgical masks performed better if worn in combination with tights (pantyhose) (7.2) or if the gaps were sealed using cloth tape (4.8). However, comfort was, not surprisingly, an issue.
The researchers noted many of the hacks, including the most effective ones, were uncomfortable.
Rubber banks put pressure on the ears and face and reduced blood circulation to the ears for some people.
Meanwhile, pantyhose gave volunteers “high levels of discomfort”, caused problems speaking and sometimes covered the participants’ eyes during the exercises.
And while fabric tape was comfortable to wear, it was uncomfortable to remove and the researchers noted sweat or movement over time could dislodge the tape.
Worth reading in full, for a laugh.
Stop Press: Geoff Shullenberger in UnHerd has an excellent piece entitled “Were masks a waste of time?” looking at the evidence and asking why the ‘experts’ abandoned the established scientific view on masks – “there was no evidence that face masks are effective in reducing transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza,” wrote the WHO in 2019 – and sacrificed their own credibility in the process.
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Every day.
You’re nicked
Turn it in, George.
That was my very first thought.
Actually, and I know my post risks being thrown off the board by the mods for breaching the old profanity rules, my first thought was FFS.
Just what I thought when I saw the headline. Maybe the Daily Fail thought they could get away with it in advance!
I cannot see much to laugh at tbh
Bitter, contemptuous laughter seems appropriate, at least.
Really? It made me rotfl.
I can’t wait to see the first tighted and knickered zombie.
I know, right. Pantyhose! If I see one, I might actually wet myself.
will actually be a good way to spot DM readers….
I laughed too. Can’t wait to see that! It’ll be something else to tick off on my Covi Bingo card!
Tired old Cambridge still going downhill.
Can’t even put a name to their copycat research.
When investigatìgating after the Brinks Matt Caper it was fould that wearing your Nans oldest pantyhose there was no need for a mask at all.
Cr. Nathan Watson.SZYUCc.
University of Walton on the Naze
Wayward Studies.
Extract 2004
I’ve discovered that a plastic bag over the head with a zip tie at the neck works well – for about a minute anyway. First I feel safe, then I feel nothing!
In the legal profession they have a saying for it… would be described as “going equipped”
Leave it art Arffer.
‘Most scientists agree that they at least make a small contribution.’
Poppycock!
And if they want a better seal, clingfilm should do the job!
I hate “most scientist” angle for all of this garbage. Doesn’t say what they’re specialising in. Technically, I’m a scientist and I fall while walking up stairs sometimes, so I don’t have much trust in other scientists…
Then again…suggesting to wear a pair of tights on your face sort of proves my point.
In the spirit of this “research” I’d like to suggest you superglue yourself to the stairs to prevent falling down them
I just managed to climb the stairs wearing my wife’s knickers. Ergo, it is 7 times safer to wear knickers while climbing stairs, most scientists agree.
No need for superglue, that would be silly…….;)
As used by Insulate Britian to stop themselves falling off the planet
Supergluing the nostrils and mouth, I hear, improves filtration by 100%*.
*don’t try this at home kids. Requires adult supervision.
They certainly should try that at home.
Is there an adult in the room? They are hard to find these days.
“Worth reading in full, for a laugh.”
We laugh because we must not cry, that is all.
The REALLY sad thing is that there are those in officialdom where I live who will not only give this kind of thing credence, but will probably commission billboards and TV adverts telling people to do it “to keep everybody safe” because tights prevent the transmission of the deadly virus.
[citation needed]
Most Scientists who have read the Danish study won’t think so.
Those Most Scientists who have read the Bangladesh study might – might – opine that an unlimited number of free medical-grade (not medical-looking) disposable muzzles may reduce infections by an amount at the absolute lowest limit of statistical significant. Cloth (and novelty-purposes-only disposables) have no benefit.
I mean, that’s if Most Scientists still have the remotest interest in following the actual science.
Who authorises known and obvious fibs like the masks have some effect.
Au contraire:
“even properly fitted N95 masks will be <50% filtration of particles 1um in size (10X bigger than COVID) and for cloth masks 9.8% and surgical masks 12.4%. This is the most optimistic case. This is useless to protect against COVID because of what you are typically exposed to which is measured in orders of magnitude. What this means is that with any of these interventions, you’ll be exposed to slightly less viral load which means slightly slower onset of disease (delays maybe in hour best case (assuming a 10 hour doubling time). This is why all the clinical studies show 0 difference in the number of people infected. The only real solution is engineering controls, something the CDC never talks about.”
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/everything-you-need-to-know-about
And I believe that the N95 mask has to be worn and then cleaned and once taken off refitted to seal properly so no wearing it round your chin
When this all began I used to remark that this was the technocracy’s way of making free born men wear sanitary towels over our face orifices – in a Freudian symbolic sense turning our face-holes into manginas. I was castigated as a reactionary.
Are the gloves completely off and their intentions laid bare? They’re literally trying to get it as close to a visual representation of the holiest of holies as is physically possible.
What’s next? Tampons up your nose?
Don’t even joke about the tampons!!
I think probably a full Burka would do the trick
Will the mods be coming for me with this post?
Only an N100 burka, the N95 is too porous.
Please don’t give people any more silly ideas – I saw someone today who was not only wearing three masks but a visor too … I just shook my head in complete disbelief – I used to feel sorry for them but now I can’t stand the sight of them.
Saw a geezer wearin a gas mask in the shopping mall
That geezer could have been me taking pi$$.
If you were in Dartford Lidl about 2 years ago, you would have enjoyed me laughing at you then……
It was probably Peter Hitchens.
My thought exactly!
Yes the time for pity has long passed for me. I just treat them with contempt now and hold them directly culpable for the misery inflicted on us these past two years.
I second this motion 😎
I was recently in Turkey, and saw several people riding scooters and motorbikes with no helmets…but wearing masks.
P.S. I travelled through three busy airports with no mask, both ways, spent eight hours in total on four different planes, two busy coaches, while wearing a mask for about 20 minutes in total, mixed, unmasked, with numerous people, closely, at a busy market, several busy restaurants, cafes, shops and bars, and had a negative c***d test before I left, then took another out of curiosity when I got home, also negative, before doing my “passenger location form” test. Unjabbed as well. So much for a highly infectious airborne virus.
The only places that seem to care about masks in Turkey are the big name shops, so if you’re planning on going, stick to the small family markets.
Useful insights, thanks. My sister and Turkish BIL live near Bodrum but not sure I always get an accurate view from them.
Wouldn’t go if you paid me.
Fair point.
Personally I believe they can do and wear whatever they want and however they want. But let me not wear a bloody mask!
Its the ones wearing the visors outside that crease me up – they might just about stop someone spitting in your face but that would be about all.
Science is now no more valid than magic – P. Feyerabend.
The no-mask mask is safe and effective at gradually acclimatising its wearer to covid… or you could place a fried egg on your forehead.
I guess most wearers see them as talismans which have seen them safely thru these Difficult Thymes. Despite getting covid three times having been jabbed multiply. 😭😭😭
But think how much worse it would’ve been without the masks to protect you.
I don’t like fried eggs, can you suggest an alternative?
Try boiled, Cadbury’s Creme, or Benedict…
With the rocketing cost of living, this looks like a new and improved bank-robbing disguise.
A pity all the bank branches hereabouts have closed.
They’ll also be closing the ATMs when the long foretold cyber attack eventually arrives, as it will.
Before or after being laundered….
Read the comments in the DM. The jokers are having a field day.
Take plastic shopping bag bag and place over your head. Pull tightly. Duct tape securely to neck. Guarantee you won’t die from covid.
(sorry for repeat if you read the general comments)
I know why the cloth tape works – the virus sticks to it.
So, that’s how you wear tights! I never knew.
Why didn’t they test opaque tights? It’s winter. Sloppy work scientists 🧐
The slow creep on the recommendations how you know this is theater. As soon as it was known that transmission was via aerosol, the only mask that made any sense is a a half face rubber mask with P100 filters. If they had made that recommendation in the summer of 2020, perhaps the people who are actually at risk might have been able to protect themselves when they went into public.
Wouldn’t work. Viral particles can get in the eyes.
You need a proper biolab suit. Or a divers helmet….
Do the tights have to be worn first?
Fresh out the packet we must assume. Although looking at the pictures it seems they tested different colours. I wonder if the white worked better or worse than the black.
Careful now…….
bit of a risk that you might get an awful outbreak of veruccas on your forehead if you do
Aiming, once again, to piss off a few ….
When I go into a store, I take a rolled-up mask with me, in my shirt pocket. I’ve found myself in situations where someone would begin coughing, even aisles away, and I’d want whatever protection I could get while getting th’ hell out of there.
I imagine I’m going to get down-dinged for being old and stupid and cowardly.
Please, feel free.
I’ll bite.
Why take the chance at all? If you genuinely fear contamination in that environment it would make more sense to always be masked.
Why, exactly, do you say that I “fear” contamination?
That seems like a knee-jerk assumption on your part.
Rational caution does not equate to fear.
About 15% of those around me are grossly overweight. Vitamin D deficiency is extremely common in the US population.
In what way is slapping a bit of cloth that doesn’t block airflow over your face “rational caution”?
I could explain that technically, with diagrams, but first I’d like to ask … “do you give a damn?”
I think not.
I’m only interested in rationality. You are obviously fixated upon what amounts to ideology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLvDkYr3GaY
I know. My cardiologist has had me on 50,000 units/week for more than a decade. I haven’t had even a common cold. No respiratory or nasal problems at all.
I suspect that over the past 2 years, I’ve “had” the virus but my immune system has stomped it.
Still, only an immature jackass will run up to someone who’s coughing and inhale deeply, right in front of that person’s face.
You said “aisles away”. And what about all the other vitamins – have you been having 50,000 units of all of those every week for more than a decade? A, B2, B6, B12, C, E…. and what about all the other chemical elements that are good for us? Zinc, iron, calcium, sulphur, phosphorus, iodine, fluorine, lithium — must take a while counting it all up.
I’ve been on a solid regime of multi-vitamins for decades. The 50K of D is my cardiologist going a bit overboard (in addition to the others.)
That’s not a normal outlook, and you haven’t answered the question. Me? I just eat properly, and once in a while pop in a ‘vitamin tablet’ just in case it ‘might help’.
Very clever US chap sums it up here:
“even properly fitted N95 masks will be <50% filtration of particles 1um in size (10X bigger than COVID) and for cloth masks 9.8% and surgical masks 12.4%. This is the most optimistic case. This is useless to protect against COVID because of what you are typically exposed to which is measured in orders of magnitude. What this means is that with any of these interventions, you’ll be exposed to slightly less viral load which means slightly slower onset of disease (delays maybe in hour best case (assuming a 10 hour doubling time). This is why all the clinical studies show 0 difference in the number of people infected. The only real solution is engineering controls, something the CDC never talks about.”
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/everything-you-need-to-know-about
You go into a shop not knowing if someone has been coughing their lungs out 5 minutes before you do so – so any kind of virus can be floating around. People don’t even need to cough – just breathing will spread viruses.
So first you take a huge risk – and then whip out your mask only when you actually hear someone coughing. And you call this rational?
Why would vitamin D deficiency be common in the USA? Does the sun not shine there? What a peculiar thing to say.
Yes, the virus might be coughed out before I enter, but it’s been known for some 20 months that this virus’ lifespan outside the body is shorter than that of other viruses.
Yes, ordinary breathing can exhale it, but a single cough will export orders of magnitude more.
The D deficiency is VERY real here! It and gross obesity probably lie at the root of why we do have “from-COVID” deaths among youngish people.
(We began seeing gross obesity as a problem a decade ago. Do your shopping in any supermarket and before you were done, you’d encounter a whale pushing a cart. Today, it’s killing people.)
🤡
Can you smell perfume/cigarette smoke through your emergency mask? If so, you can also smell the virus.
Or fish, if it’s tights.
Make sure you wear some protective eyewear as your eyes are very adept at absorbing viruses.
the eyewear would have to be worn under the tights, as otherwise you couldn’t get the legs of the glasses to fit behind your ears.
I think you have a mental illness . You really should get some help.
That’s cute! I’ve never gotten that one before.
That was interesting. You quite openly told everyone you were trolling them and they still almost all fell for it. Wow. Chapeau!
Thank you, ma’am.
I’m a veteran of the old Little Green Footballs, and came on the Web 12 years before. Maybe it’s a bit unfair to pick on them like that.
Will you still be wearing a face mask in your coffin?
I don’t ordinarily wear one, even in stores in a nearby city where the governmental wallahs still have rules it. I tend to get one out of the car’s glovebox when I go shopping over there, but I just put it in my pocket.
This filtration efficiency (as measured in a completely artifical setting) is nothing but another bullshit proxy measure, ie, one that’s related to what would need to be measured – prevention of infection in real-world settings – in a completely unknown way. Eg, as the exact mechanics of infection are unknown, it’s also unknown how many viral particles are needed for an infection. Hence, it’s impossible to assess if the filtration efficiency of anything is at least theoretically sufficient.
Chinese propaganda marker: KN95 is a Chinese mock of the US N95 standard. Usage of masks marked KN95 is explicitly prohibited in clinical settings in Europe as they’re reportedly often of dubious quality, ie, the (Chinese) manufacturers just print KN95 on the boxes because it helps sales. A story which doesn’t mention that these are neither N95 (USA) nor FFP2 (EU) masks is highly suspicious.
Brilliant one. Thanks for cheering up my Monday! Seriously though, masks seem to be making a comeback in the MSM. All day BJ and Rishi have been photographed wearing them they must have got a telling off from Herr Schwab.
Funny you should say that, I was away from my home town/village at the weekend and I returned today. Upon a brief visit to the High Street, I was aware there were a lot more masks on show than in last couple of weeks.
I did wonder if our glorious leaders had made some kind of madcap, pathetic, drivel ridden announcement at the weekend that I’d missed.
Amongst all the crap that has been on show during this fiasco (and there are many), the mask sits proudly on top of the entire steaming dungheap.
It’s not necessarily the most evil, it’s just the one that baffles me the most about the levels of compliance.
With or without a suspender belt, and do they recommend a specific denier.
A Covid-denier
Boom Boom, we have a winner
(still chortling)
you win an order of the garter.
One of my Tweets which got me banned from that objectionable platform was my suggestion that the only way for people to be absolutely sure they were protecting other people from their breath was to wear a plastic bag on their heads.
Fast forward 18 months, and here we are, the experts are getting closer and closer to my suggestion!
I hope you meant a recycled poly bag you inhuman uncaring climate denier 🧐
No, my recommendation was a Bag For Life
because this site is pro-marriage?
Well, dunno about DS, but Twitter said I was inciting violence and self harm. To which, in my attempted defence, I said that on that matter they should look no further than HM Government.
Is that because if you use it, then the exchange implied in the name would be complete?
you were way ahead of the curve obvs
You can also put a condom over your head (you will find examples on YouTube). 100% protection.
I’d say it depends on which lovely lady is providing me with her tights. 🤣
Jacinda
🤮 OK, I quit
Diane Abbott after she’s had them on backwards
I think we all know what is going on here. Over the last two years Big Pharma have made a killing. Big Hosiery on the other hand have been hammered since the ladies are at home in their jimjams and leggings, not in the office going through several pairs of sheer tights each week. At least Big Hosiery aren’t campaigning to inject kids with drugs 🤠
It’s the obesity crisis, these days all hosiery is big hosiery
Touche 😉
Give it six months and they’ll discover that the addition of holding a clementine in your mouth, while masked and with tights, reduces viral emission by another 50%.
Six months after that they’ll discover that additionally stuffing a pair of tampons up your nostrils blocks viral emission completely.
You should work for SAGE.
He does…
You saw the video’s of the MP’s “private meeting” too?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Milligan
It seems hosiery isnt all bad!
Sign outside supermarket: “Face coverings must be worn, as well as tights, standard pirate-issue eye patches and a string of garlic cloves around the neck, unless exempt”.
With draconian gun laws in the UK, we are deprived of silver bullets.
Any studies of covid spread among bank robbers?
The funniest part is that your taxpayer money has already paid for this research.
“This, the scientists said, could reduce the amount of viral particles by up to seven times more than a loose mask on its own, by sealing the gaps around the nose and mouth.”
7 times 0 is still 0.
Roll up! Roll up!
Proof, as if it were needed, that the world has completely lost its mind. It could not be clearer that we are in the grips of mass hysteria. The question is why so many people STILL don’t see it?
I reckon trillionaires come up with these pranks at dinner parties.
Is this the only way they can get men of a certain age and sexual persuasion to mask up?
If so, does it work with fishnet stockings?
Indeed. And why doesn’t my string vest stop midge bites.
Sounds good to me. Can I wear my fishnets?
I had one of those standard surgical masks, I cut out the middle part and replaced it with window netting designed to keep flies out.
I wore it a few times in shops to take the piss.
It’s funny seeing couples in their cars wearing masks. I wonder if they only wear a mask when outside their homes, as if the virus doesn’t enter their dwellings so it’s safe there but venture past that front door & without a mask they’ll be done for.
TY on Farage tonight if anyones interested.
So what exactly are these chumps measuring?
Are they actually taking people that are supposed to be infected with sars cov 2, ones that are coughing, sticking tights on their head and then sitting them in a room with healthy people to see if they catch a similar disease from the cougher.
This will likely be some Ferguson grade guff involving epic assumptions and computer models.
Like most of this ‘pandemic’ without computers, weapons grade assumptions assumptions, and bent modellers none of this nonsense would have been able to happen.
State-of-the-art bullshit is to gather droplets and aerosols with a suitable device and analyze these for virusness.
Problem: Nobody wants to know what’s contained in droplets and aerosols gathered by such a device. What would be interesting is prevention of infection in community settings.
Could you imagine being one of the “researchers” involved in this, ahem, ‘study’ and going home at night to the OH and her saying “so, what were you up to at work today?” – just how would you go about describing it? and how insane would you feel in the process?
“Putting tights over a face mask makes it work better as a disguise when trying to rob a bank”
There, fixed it for you!
“going equipped” – altho these days you would most likely get off with a caution for that if caught in the act.
How about a plastic bag held on with duck tape? 100%
I’m sorry, but did Cambridge University use the word ‘Pantyhose’ or was it just the Mail?
Oh god, clicked on the link and now I know that Amy Willerton (who?) showcased her amazing figure in racy red lingerie for a Valentine’s Day shoot … I hope the Daily Sceptic get some kind of commission.
Thanks for the tip but all I got was.
Maya Jama (who?)bares her belly for a lymphatic drainage massage as she gets ‘de-bloated’ ahead of the Brits.
Journalism at it’s best.
You missed ‘Beyonce wows in plunging red latex’?
Tempting but I think I’ll stop here.
Was there “sideboob”?
Funded by Bill Gates?
He’s American so will have to use the correct terminology.
Oh FFS! Are these people completely demented. Sounds more like blokes with a stocking fetish acting out their fantasies.
Gift horses and silver linings.
I guess that this is their ‘stock in trade’. Their next study will doubtless involve the additional wearing of incontinence pants. But maybe I am just taking the p**s!
Upticked for two double entondre’s in one post.
Thank you!
Here is a challenge for all you supermarket mask-spotters – 100 extra points for anyone with a verified observation
The leaders around Westminster are beginning to get it today…
http://memecreator.org/static/images/memes/4810176.jpg
The go to fashion for bank robbers, also any sort of hat with a red bobble protects against covid, allegedly
None of the subjects shown in the photos died of the covids, it was a 100% success.
Women’s underwear over your mouth?
The new class of transwomen will probably just love this. Being able to publicly wear women’s underwear over their mouths, what could possibly be more erotic or arousing to men with mental disturbances and paraphilias?
I suspect the next round of scientific research results will recommend that soiled ladies’ underwear is the best for stopping viruses. And think of the carbon footprint savings this will bring.
Ladies will not need to bother washing their knickers anymore, instead they’ll just whip them off and hand them to the nearest man with a paraphilia. And he’ll then spend the next day or two in seventh heaven demanding everyone call him Miss.
And take a look at the androgynous features of all the models. They all look to be male to female transitioners.
I often wondered what the chap below did when he wasn’t “educating” children in London’s libraries – albeit, this chap does not teach kids in libraries in Tower Hamlets, I can’t imagine why not.
Anyway, it’s good to have it cleared up that he probably does scientific research for Cambridge University on his days off.
One could even purchase men’s pantyhose.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oyolan-Pantyhose-Underwear-Sleepwear-Nightwear/dp/B08SQR5J65/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3FOL1IUZKQRCA&keywords=male%2Bpantyhose&qid=1644263307&sprefix=male%2Bpantyhos%2Caps%2C1019&sr=8-5&th=1
Stick those on your face and you’d be arrested.
Not only does it stop the virus getting to you, it stops all oxygen
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This has surely, SURELY got to be a joke. Were things getting just a little too normal again? It’s always at about this point, where people are finally beginning to relax and resume their everyday lives like in pre-pandemic days, where some joker has to put their head above the parapet and suggest some ridiculous new practice to become the norm – like when they suggested walking on all fours, because apparently some pseudo-science was showing that tall people were disproportionately affected by Covid-19.
Please, please people come your senses and stop clowning around with underwear on your face. The pandemic is over.
And how’s your breathing and CO2 build-up after a few hours of two layers of stifling fabric covering your mouth and nose?
“….where some joker has to put their head above the parapet and suggest some ridiculous new practice to become the norm”
What, like Sturgeon sawing school doors in half?
Were I forced to choose, on pain of death, the least ridiculous of the two suggestions I would choose this one.
Wee nippy is now certifiable and needs to be carted off for her own good.
Ah, hadn’t heard about the tall people research. Makes sense though, what with kids not getting it and those sensible cafe/restaurant rules. Clearly covvy is ineffective under 4-5 feet from the ground. So Sturgeon’s scheme to chop off the bottom halves of school doors ain’t so crazy, eh, you naughty sceptics. . .
(hmm, must remember to read all replie afore posting (sorry RHS). Still, great minds . . . )
Are they just lunatics or are they EVIL lunatics ?
Hard to say. We’ll have to fund some research to back up a scientific
groupthinkconsensus.Ok showing my age here but if this becomes compulsory can I have a stocking that still has Sam Fox’s leg circa 1986 in it please?
Even better.
Even stranger was a dream I had recently, so no made up science involved. The question I was asked is, how would you feel if I told you that you are about to be introduced to or made aware of ‘others’ who have been living on Earth considerably longer than you and who whilst being benevolent will be portrayed as your enemy and your own governments as heros, whilst actually being your enslavers?
My Gran has been living on Earth considerably long than me, is that who you mean?
Triple jabbed Asian ladies will be selling their used underwear as masks next
Duct tape works well to
Toby Young was being interviewed by Julia Hartley-Brewer today.
Toby was saying the vaccines do not stop transmission but that they do prevent serious illness.
I’m worried that Toby is trapped in a time warp that is keeping him stuck in June 2021 and he hasn’t seen the up to date data.
Does he not read any of the stuff posted BTL??? not only do they NOT prevent serious illness they are far more likely to be the cause of it, ADE, original antigenic sin, and that is before we get to the horrific side effects, like stroke, myocarditis, guillain barre and the uptick in autoimmune disease.
Makes me convinced now that he has to toe some kind of line
The efficacy of the mask can be improved further by placing a heavy duty bin bag over the head and sealing it around the neck with a generous helping of duct tape.
Liar Liar
What’s causing this rise in heart attacks?
https://maajidnawaz.substack.com/p/liar-liar-fc1
HA HA HA HA HA!
Best laugh all day!
COMING SOON – putting tights over a condom decreases the chance of accidental pregnancy 🙂
There is useful info in that paper. According to the paper “N95 or FFP3 masks must score at least 100 to be considered to have adequate fit by OSHA standards.” In these tests, the baseline fit was less than 5. Even with well fitted pantyhose, the mask never got near 100. Reproducibility of fit was difficult. This paper proves that masks don’t work.
I prefer my asymptomatic face mask, you really wouldn’t know I’m wearing it.
I self-identify as someone wearing a mask
I self identify as someone unable to wear a mask
This is fun, but at too-shallow a level.
The comment-streams are far-different from a year ago, when I discovered the website and began studying its posts.
The comment-streams have largely (though not always) turned into emotion-centered echo chambers. There is no rational discourse. It’s the Hegelian dialectic of kids who’ve fortified their sandbox, yelling and flinging poo at the other kids in their sandbox on the opposite side of the playground.
The very-valid debating points regarding science-or-not, statistics-or-not, medical-danger-or-not, et cetera have been calcified into what’s best described as us-versus-them ideology.
I’ll give you a present. … I turn 79 on Thursday.
Now your Sixties stomp on Daddy mindset can take that and run. Yes, it IS a Daddy who’s being mean to you.
I’ll give you more presents. I firmly believe that there is something of a great reset conspiracy driving the post-February 2020 reaction/s to COVID, but I think it’s different things in different places — neo-neo-post-Marxists in the UK — inner-city political power-brokers and race-hustlers in America. I firmly believe the reaction involves massive herds of Chicken Little lemmings. I had two semesters of physics in high school and college, and can precisely describe how face masks don’t work, but can be made to in certain tightly-controlled instances. I have a strong hunch that “ivermectin” is like what the John Birch Society turned into in the late Sixties and Seventies.
(Yes, that should be enough to trigger your ‘out with the old, in with the new’ emotions.)
I suspect the term you’re reaching for is division.
Social, cultural, ethnic, religious, sexual and every other divisionist entity one can think of.
I agree with you, there is an agenda being played out here stoked by the likes of Trudeau, Macron, Arden and the rest of the WEF graduates.
There is no plan as such, other than when the peasants revolt it can justify the excesses of the state being turned on them. That’s infectious, as other state leaders begin to see the advantage of it.
Quite how they can expect to expand it when the USSR and America have both been humiliated in Afghanistan by a bunch of non compliant tribesmen I’ll never know. We may see Iran laughing as the west literally implodes around its own wokeness.
I have an acquaintance in Russia. He tells me the citizens there, having spent the last 70 years with no freedoms, are disgusted that the ‘civilised, Democratic’ west is simply rolling over to all this nonsense. We don’t see antifa and Extinction Rebellion demonstrating in Russia. They know they would end up in Siberia just for being a pain in the arse.
So whilst I agree with you, I don’t see where this Great Reset is heading. What’s the end game when Russia, India and even China will be welcoming western ‘refugees’?
On my side of the pond, Bill Ayers and George Soros are both on public record as wanting to see America destroyed. The C.S. Lewis quote up top at the moment – “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive…” – might point to the heart of it in other cases.
The present-day culture is chock-full of self-inflation, and I’m convinced that the trend began with the ‘out-with-the-old, in-with-the-new’ hedonism of rock-n-roll, and then the Sixties.
The present day joy of tattooing “who I am” up one’s arm is the path of doom, and no one understands it. … What happens 30 years from now, when one is no longer want one thought one was back then?
There are probably some in the “reset” who (at a minimum) like to imagine people chopping off their limbs or committing suicide. Bill Ayers undoubtedly loves the way American culture’s headed.
(grin) I could have explained. I wanted to see if any of you would get it.
And you have no idea who/what I am, which blocks I’ve made turns around.
I got it straight away: you’re genuinely so ignorant that you thought the Great in Great Britain meant fantastic. When I pointed out that it meant big, you googled it, realised I was right and spent the next 30 minutes refusing to admit you were wrong.
A real man would gracefully have admitted his error.
The usage of Great Britain came about in the Walpole era, when the industrial union of Scotland and England and Wales created a leviathan which dominated the planet’s economy and oceans for many decades. The union gave the human race two priceless principles: freedom, and the rule of law. It gave the world an example to inspire future generations, that it stood firm against Nazi/Fascist aggression and won.
My putting Great into quotation marks was an editorial comment, suggesting that Britain had, or was, losing that greatness.
Did you ever have history classes in whatever school you attended?
I think Great Britain was used to differentiate it from Lesser Britain i.e. Brittany.
Some will say anything, and believe themselves.
I just like that you’re 79 and still wanting to waste your valuable time with us bastards! Well done, sir!
WTH? I don’t think so. Please stop the world, I want to get off.
As far as masks in general go, on a purely speculative note, I would have thought that if one is infectious (which is the only circumstance in which the mask would be effective) something plastered over your face that hampers your ability to exhale viral particles into the atmosphere, would potentially increase your own viral load compared with not wearing one?
So if that is the case, the tiny reduction in viral shedding you may have achieved in an indoor environment where you’re required to wear a mask, may be compensated for by being more likely to spread your infection within, say, your household where you’re not required to wear it.
The virus has to go somewhere, and if you stop it from spreading in one place, it’ll just spread elsewhere once the mask comes off (and the data shows clearly that nowhere near all viral aerosols are being trapped by the fabric of the mask) Perhaps this is why we see no significant reduction in infection rate following the introduction of mask mandates anywhere in the world. (Believe me, I’ve deep-dived into the data on http://www.ourwoldindata.com, and cross referenced it with the introduction of these mandates in many different countries and there is nothing happening to the trajectory of the infection graphs subsequent to the start of the mandates anywhere!)
This is what a few of you are. Utterly childish. Sanctimonious. Stupidly violent.
https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/video-las-vegas-student-violently-attacks-classmate/
you want fries with that?
You didn’t understand my purpose (which relates right back to why I posted it in the first place.)
Utterly childish. Sanctimonious. Stupidly violent.
Sounds like pretty normal people, does it not?
“Normal” since when? … Not while I was growing up. I think it began entering the popular, everyday culture (in the US, at least) about 20/30 years ago.
If you want to start tracking it, begin with the post-Freudian, 1940s/50s onset of psychologism, which morphed into victimology (that everyone’s a victim of something, and can therefore feel “entitled”.)
Looking at social media from those contexts will shrive your nuts into raisins.
“Shrive your nuts into raisins”?
WTF is that supposed to mean?
Did you mean shrivel? And why don’t you know that raisins are shrivelled grapes? And if you’re ex -USMC, how come you never say outstanding?
PIMF (preview is my friend) I meant to type shrivel.
And I am not ex-USMC. My father was Old Corps, enlisted on 20 Dec, 1939. I was Navy, two combat cruises in the Tonkin Gulf, 1964-66.
The Gulf of Tonkin….
Were you involved in the false flag incident?
The Maddox/MTB affair? No. We were about a week out of Hong Kong, steaming south in the South China Sea.
My aircraft carrier and 2 others were involved in the start of the bombing of the North which was a direct response to it.
Do you yourself know that the Maddox affair was a fake? I didn’t see you anywhere out there. Where were you?
I was thinking of something entirely different: I’ve had people of your age (you’re 30 years older than me) force me into mock attention-seeking fights over woman of the same age 20 years ago, always maintaining a straight I’m not doing anything-face with (occasionally) lots of underhand violence, exactly as if everyone involved was still 16 or so. Of course, younger people are no better, there’s just the usually unjustified hope that they could still turn out to become different.
🙂 🙂
Hence, I thought that childish, sanctimonious, violent (and without recognizable, intellectual activity or capacity) captured the spirit of such events quite well.
No gimp mask control group, how am I supposed to take this data seriously?
Admin: Can you suspend the profanity rules for this one article, please?
!**”^**!!!. Ahh, that’s better.
Which end of the pantyhose? Toe end? Gusset end? We need to be told.
No you’ll just have to gusset.
I found taking the mask off improves my breathing and feeling of well-being tremendously.
I wouldn’t know. Never worn one.
It appears these tests were conducted on dummy’s (the artificial type) so no mention of moisture build up (quiet at the back please) which, as we were all told at the beginning of this nonsense, was the principle transmission medium.
We were assured by all the loons that, unlike any other respiratory virus, covid wasn’t just floating around in the air, kind of free floating. Now we’re bombarded with public health announcements on radio and TV that the virus hangs about in the air, especially in enclosed spaces, like smoke, just waiting for you.
Just stop this now this obviously this is globalist propaganda masks are horrible dehumanising things , yet I see people wear them outside all the time where I live .
in the fresh air a man was driving past me today wearing a black mask, I just went absolutely mad 😡 I said wearing a mask in your car I cannot repeat what I said I just flipped out , I feel embarrassed but he drove out near me coming out from the gym ,
I have seen couples drive in masks , honestly I do not find this funny remember when men found beautiful woman beautiful and attractive, and flirted masks ruin body language, yet I thought masks were just recommended in crowd places not legal as if you would wear a pair of knickers over a face nappy dumb 😒.
I just cannot pity mask wearers to me there is long term evidence masks make no difference to virus particles, apparently some say it might make little difference but is the right thing to do, or they feel safer wearing a mask . I cannot understand why so many still wear them as it is not a law , they cannot fine you on transport, I have never been questioned or fined in 19 months ,
I cannot believe this study are they promoting masks now I suppose masks were never temporary.
It’s because people are stoopid.
Bit of light relief.
An oldie but a goodie:
Baklava Gangster comedy sketch
https://www.comedy.co.uk/online/videos/7514/baklava_gangster/
They just can’t help themselves can they?! First inflation now paracetamol is responsible for the massive upsurge in heart attacks and strokes.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/02/07/daily-paracetamol-use-increases-heart-attack-risk-researchers/
I think we are approaching the point where the media can spout lies of any magnitude without any coneback. They could probably put two directly contradictory headlines next to each other on the front page of their newspapers, and get away with it. Doublethink capabilities have been baked into the population of complacent fools.
The problem with this study is that they make up a ‘fit factor’ score, and then imply that this relates to ‘goodness at reducing risk of covid’ — these is no evidence whatsoever that their ‘fit factor’ score is in any way related to protection against covid.
There’s far too much of this ‘I believe that there’s a correlation but have no evidence’ science going on at the moment. Most of the NPI for covid fit in this category, but we also have things like all the recent vaccines being measured by the level of antibodies created, but the antibody levels are probably just somewhat correlated with other protective processes, not the protection in themselves.
It’s really nice to see this being recognized now as this has been a problem for a long time. The giveaway-sticking-out-like-a-sore-thumb is mentioning KN95 masks. That’s essentially product placement and strongly suggests someone contributed funding here in one way or another.
The whole masking drama is essentially about selling Chinese throwaway products to people who historically didn’t care for buying them.
Is this study a (not so subtle) way of saying masks are for dummies?
very good!
Obscene and absurd! Give us strength!
What fresh hell is this? My response is 2 words, one of which is “off”
That’s funny. They’ll be recommending schools saw the bottoms off doors to improve ventilation next.
Oh, surely not. Even in Celtiloonyland….
I think it’s quite apposite that the mask-wearers pictured are literally dummies.
Just don’t breathe. That’s 100% effective.
absolutely sick to death of masking. Still it continues when there is no mandate. No evidence of effectiveness while even WHO reflect the harms. Just stop it.
I hate the world around me so much.
The sight of them on people gives me the creeps or something. I can’t explain it. That blank area on half of the face. It’s not right, not normal.
Please o please let me see someone in Sainsbury’s in this caper
https://thecovidworld.com/former-pro-matt-le-tissier-ive-never-seen-anything-like-it-its-unbelievable-how-many-sports-players-are-keeling-over/
Brilliant. I’m actually sure this will work. It makes complete sense. Also I want it to be mandated, because I’m equally sure everyone will go “no f***king way” and that will be the end of the notion liberty is second to safety.
FFS.
It’ll be a tampon stuck up each nostril next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km5Em_xz8RI&ab_channel=JordanBPeterson
Jordan Peterson waking up a little bit on the Canadian situation.
Talking to Julie Ponesse Dr. Julie Ponesse is a philosopher specializing in applied ethics, bioethics, and ancient philosophy. Unfortunately, 20 years in academia came to an end after failing to comply with a vaccine mandate at the University of Western Ontario
A certain denier of tights is optimal, and this will officially be called “Covid denier”.
Scientists are currently researching what exact denier this is. When they’re ready, they’ll come right out and use graphs and stuff.
Sticks for putting up the nose in the highly pro-social activity known as “testing”, just to make sure you don’t need to lock yourself up, should be stored in a knotted condom fixed to a necklace.
Twists of toilet paper can also be inserted into the ears for the authentic “Good Citizen” look.
EVERYTHING FOR HYGIENE!
PS Can politicians please take the lead?
PPS “Making a transaction in a High Street bank branch while wearing a stocking mask” has now been added to my bucket list.
Covid denier – I like it!
If science can’t be questioned it’s not science anymore. It’s propaganda. They want to rip on people for taking Ivermectin. I researched and saw the evidence on the internet. Research papers are on the internet for those who wants to see. Top respected world doctors are being under defamation by MSM and vaccine manufacturers. I won’t back down recommeding IVM. You can get yours by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com
What a load of pants.
It works even better if you put the tights fully over your head, wear a balaclava as well, and carry a sawn-off shotgun.
Your friendly bank teller will thank you for protecting them so well.
Ain’t “higher ejukashun a wonderful thing?
I wear swimming goggles (to protect my eyes), a clothes peg on my nose (to protect my nasals), ear defenders (to protect my ears) and masking tape (to protect my mouth), then I feel safe.
Remember how adverts were always claiming their products were “new and improved”, which happened so many times that people started joking that the original products must have been bluddy awful if they were capable of so much improvement?
Well, now it’s welcome to the tights giving us “new and improved” masks. Seven times improved, no less. So, the original masks that morons have been wearing for the last two years must have been…(fill in your own description)…
Just wait until they discover how much more improvement can be obtained by an airtight plastic bag sealed over the entire head. You won’t be infecting anybody with one of those on you, so it must be the socially acceptable way to go. With the added bonus of exciting, psychedelic colour changes to the face inside: first red, then white, then blue, then green. I don’t see a downside. I think it can be a winner.
Was this study performed on people or dummies? The pictures show the masks on models and everyone knows, or should, that in the real world masks are often worn incorrectly or multiple times.
Looks like another pointless study, don’t these people have anything better to do?
Bank robbers should be delighted!! 🙈
Part of me can’t help thinking that, by putting out “scientific” nonsense like this, these people are actually accelerating the end of masks in any sort of public setting. Unintentionally, of course. But that is just an outgrowth of how far removed from the real world these Ivory Tower nitwits are.
To begin with, I think even the most rabid civilians are starting to concede that the worst effects of covid are already behind us.
Then there is the implication that, in order to be really effective people need to do x or y. Which suggests that the cloth muzzles they’ve been clinging two these past 18 months were pretty much a waste of time.
At some point people are going to recognise that the cost benefits simply don’t add up any more.
Does that include fishnets ?
And what happens if you get a ladder ?
You’ll be done for. Next stop the mortuary.
Surely a plastic bag is better. That guarantees nothing gets in or out.
And the loss incurred to society from this policy, for the people that choose to undertake it, would be far less than the costs of lockdown.
plastic bag so bad for the environment Lucan – net zero and all that
Super glue would help with the conformal fit too.
“You own nothing except a pair of smelly tights and be happy”
Klaus Schwab
They (Cambridge) are just keeping their Chinese paymasters happy, keeping the Chinese factories in business with selling useless nappies…
ffs let’s put a plastic bag over our heads and tie it tight.
So, pay for a mask that doesn’t work, and then buy tights to make you look even more stupid! I would say that you couldn’t make it up, but they keep doing it!
Wow! I didn’t realise the mesh on tights were so small – it’s a wonder they aren’t solid with holes only 20 microns or so!
They wouldn’t be doing this if masks worked in the first place
Simply stop wearing a mask. They do not work. Stay in a closet at homefor the rest of your life if you are that frightened.
There are sadly plenty of people doing just that
Published on the 2nd February and guess what…
Editor: Jianguo Wang, China University of Mining and Technology, CHINA