Toby has a new piece in Mail+ today, in which he says he was publicly shamed and vilified in March 2020 for saying lockdowns won’t work, but now has evidence they were a disaster.
A new report by one of America’s leading universities has concluded that the lockdowns imposed across the world over the past two years have had “little to no” effect on saving lives.
According to the Centre for Applied Economics at Johns Hopkins, the lockdowns in Europe and the United States only succeeded in reducing Covid mortality by 0.2%.
This conclusion wasn’t based on a single study, but on what academics called a ‘meta-study’.
That is, the economists at Johns Hopkins looked at 24 different empirical studies that examined the impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) on reducing Covid deaths.
The research the authors compiled on stay-at-home orders found that they had slightly more impact than lockdowns, reducing Covid mortality by 2.9%. But studies of specific NPIs (facemasks, closing non-essential businesses, border closures, school closures, limits on social gatherings) found there was “no broad-based evidence” to suggest they had a great impact on Covid deaths. One exception to the rule was closing non-essential businesses, which reduced Covid deaths by 10.6%.
However, the economists found that limits on the number of people who could gather in one place, such as the rule of six, may have increased Covid mortality by 1.6%.
The negative impact of the interventions, on the other hand, was enormous, with GDP in 2020-21 shrinking by 9.9%, with an estimated cost of £250 billion. There was also the social cost and the cost to children’s education, with a report this week from the Centre for Social Justice finding that 100,000 children still haven’t returned to school. Plus, of course, “the NHS became, to all intents and purposes, a Covid-only service”, leading to a projected up to 12 million people being on the NHS waiting list by 2025, according to the National Audit Office.
No wonder, says Toby, the authors of the Johns Hopkins report conclude that “lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument”.
This is a personal vindication, Toby says.
On March 31st, 2020, one week after the first lockdown was imposed, I wrote an article for a magazine saying I thought the Government had overreacted and should have stuck to its own Pandemic Preparedness Strategy, which cautioned against quarantining the healthy as well as the sick.
I argued that the costs of placing everyone in the U.K. under virtual house arrest would vastly outweigh the benefits.
As a result, I was publicly shamed and vilified. Shortly after the article appeared, I became the No1 trending topic on Twitter – an honour that no one wants. Tens of thousands of people joined the pile-on, denouncing me as a ‘Nazi’, a ‘eugenicist’ and a ‘Tory scumbag’. Some people even called for me to be locked up, so dangerous was my dissenting point of view.
But I have stuck to my guns for the best part of two years, including setting up a website called the Daily Sceptic where people can challenge the prevailing orthodoxy, and it now looks as though I was right.
The cure was worse – much worse – than the disease.
Former lockdowns zealots with new-found scepticism should be welcomed not shamed, Toby argues: “The only thing that matters to me is that we never lock down the people of these islands again.”
Worth reading in full, obviously.
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A personal vindication for and every one of us here.
And renewed thanks to Toby for the lifeline he offered those who, like me, were beginning to think they were the only sane person left in Britain.
I wouldn’t rest easy just yet, the next leg of the great reset is well under way with the transfer of wealth from the public to the state to become dependent on them. They are willfully trashing the economy to do this
It’s just a matter of time before the next “training exercise” goes live. The daily mail is full of stories today on Putin and his plans for a cyber attack on the UK – cyber polygon anyone?
It has been going on in the US for some time but not in the same way as you state; some unscrupulous – a world class understatement – financial services businesses have been scaremongering workforces that the State won’t help them so they must participate in Employer sponsored schemes…..then the providers refuse to pay out on claims…..I could say a load more…but won’t.
US heading for political and economic meltdown, deliberately orchestrated by the deranged and senile Biden under direction .
Over 50 % of Americans now know that the 2020 election was stolen and that the vaccines are killing people..
Well said!
Sadly, a false dawn – Chapter 2 of the Nightmare they have planned for us is on its way!
The same people who were passing of correlations gathered from unrepeatable observational studies all the time as evidence of causation are still doing that. Just less lockdown happy than they used to be. But a better time might again come for that eventually. And the same, rotten method can then again be used to come up with whatever policy based evidence making seems to be called for.
Well, we didn’t really need evidence they were a disaster because they were morally wrong.
A disaster for us; the peasants – an unmitigated success for the tech, pharmaceutical and governmental industries of the world. Let’s think on the positive side at least.
‘Publically Shamed’ requires the shamee to acknowledge the error of their ways.
I never have and don’t suppose that Toby has either
Yes, the experience can leave distrust, wariness and tiredness as something to be worked through in one’s psyche. It’s been great to have the few I know in day to day life augmented by Toby and fellow lockdown sceptics here, and the roll of honour generally online.
Re shamees being required to acknowledge and recant: Robert Malone has written a wonderfully scorching letter to the Mail demanding a printed apology I see (from subscribing to his e-mails). Good to see him holding the line robustly as they are way out of line!
Can you share any of the details, please?
Here you go:
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-the-daily-mail-article
Well done to Toby and all who were sceptical from day 1. It took me a couple of months to wake up.
So much information now appearing that criticises the previous narrative.
I very much have the feeling that we are close to the end of stage 1.
The huge unknowns are the timing and the full extent and nature of stage 2.
Yes it took me a while. I think it was the immediate closing down of the possibilities of HCQ having a therapeutic benefit, the 2 weeks to flatten the curve that stretched on and on and the very late introduction of masks that did it. And the complete shutdown of the NHS for anything other than covid, which I experienced first hand. Before I even knew the DS existed.
For me the doubts stirred when I saw John Campbell extolling the virtues of Vitamin D, and worked out that many were shut away from its prime source, the Sun, spending most of the day inside. Then one added in that very few were recommending vitamin D supplements. It just made no sense. Also hearing Jonathan Sumption helped me crystallise my awareness of how much that had happened was barely legal, if at all, and certainly not moral. Plus the Great Barrington Declaration.
Seems there really was a conspiracy, still no reasons as to the whys though
JAG_Docs_pt1_Og_WATERMARK_OVER_Redacted.pdf
I took until early May. Being turned down for the job of wiping bums in ICU despite being up to date with my medical appraisals and revalidation convinced me that this was all lies.
I had been scared but fairly resolute until then. After that point I was liberated from fear, but remain very angry.
Yes my anger is never far from the surface, which in itself is collateral damage.
Likewise, a bubbling magma under a very thin crust…
I had a look back in my email and my first sceptic email went to my MP at the end of April 2020. Something just didn’t smell right with the mismatch between what the Diamond Princess data and John Ioannidis said, and the forecasts of doom and gloom (and the lack of any proper perspective on the deaths numbers) in the media.
Ask Gates , he has the ‘plan’.
We can all (me included) be a bit “More anti-lockdown than thou” on occasion. But Toby stuck his head up earlier and spoke more loudly than any other prominent media figure I can think of, and I for one thank him and the team for helping me get through a period where I may well have gone irreparably insane or fallen into utter despair.
Except in Germany, where the “pre-Christmas panic” lockdown has just been extended by another 2-3 weeks for good measure.
Any thoughts on why?
German philosophy at work, Lockdown is German philosophy, repackaged in China.
My son has spent a fair bit of time working in Germany and he tells me that in general they really do like things nicely in order, are happy to be told what to do, happy with a large state and prefer teamwork to individualism. It was interesting that when Bruce Dickinson wrote his book, ‘What Does This Button Do?’, he had to explain it to German people who could not understand why one would ask such a question. One said, ‘In Germany, if we do not know what a button does, we do not press it’.
I was talking about the ideas of Kant, Hegel, Marx and their descendants.
However, the mentality you describe is a consequence of mind-rotting philosophy.
I hate to stumble into the stereotypes – but sadly you appear to be correct. I have a female Lawyer friend who says that all he faith and her belief in the Institutions of the Federal Republic ( especially the Constitutional Court) has been trashed by recent events.
It seems Merkel worked hard to achieve her Coudenhove Kalergi prize,
According to MSM:
“We are not past the peak of the omicron wave yet. Hospitalization rates have not dropped.”
“We have too few vaccinated people over 65 years old compared to Denmark and UK. In other words, the unvaccinated are causing the lockdown.” (This lie has been very enthusiastically swallowed by German sheep and is being repeated every now an then to keep the spirits high.)
But the best pro-lockdown argument…
“People in Germany, unlike in Denmark and Sweden, do not trust their government as much.” (so we have to punish them with lockdown?)
Yes, but what do you think are the real reasons, speaking as someone with more knowledge of Germany than me?
My guess would be that the German politicians simply like the idea of being able to govern in wichever ways it damn pleases them without this silly constitution getting in the way all the time.
Taking German politicians away from authoritarianism is like asking young children not to believe in fairies and Father Christmas
They’re exactly as democratic as their celebrated role models, the US Democrats, and generally despise and reject everything which is even remotely German. These are the creatures of de-nazification and their spritual progenitors really ought to own up to them.
“We have too few vaccinated people over 65 years old compared to Denmark and UK. In other words, the unvaccinated are causing the lockdown.”
This is worthy of some elaboration. The usual justification for lockdowns et al is that disease modelling predicted the health system would otherwise collapse due to the sheer number of people who’d need to be hospitalized in order to stop them from dying. The two underlying assumption of the statement above are:
Using the number of unvaccinated people as base quantity for the same modelling, it still predicts the health system will collapse, hence, Corona measures are still being called for. As all of the unvaccinated could have gotten their n (n >= 3) jabs meanswhile, they’re thus responsible for placing politicians in a situation where they cannot do anything but keep on doing what they have been doing since March 2020.
But considering that March 2020 was already an unjustified, WHO-driven export of Chinese policies to the world at a large, this assertion remains as untrue as it always was.
My friend in Germany says it is as if Germany was back under Hitler.
So much for the now ditched “Grundgesetz” protecting Human Rights.
Who fekin new! That’ll be why lockdowns were specifically warned against by the big brains in public health prior too the rollout of the scamdemic… They’ve destroyed peoples lives, they have infact BOLLOXED BRITANNIA!
I still think it is open to debate whether any lives were saved, as opposed to deaths being postponed.
Well, we all die eventually. The best we can ever do is to postpone it.
Whether postponement for a few (or none) is worth the cost to all is the real question.
So ..life is just one long project for postponing death ….sounds like “Waiting for Godot”
The lockdowns were not completely without merit
I learnt quite a bit, for example
1 Nearly everything I have ever been told about freedom, democracy and justice was pure twaddle
2 We have always lived under a dictatorship, it’s just that the rules change from time to time
3 Never believe anything a doctor tells you
4 The majority of the British public are terminally thick
5 Piers Morgan is not as bad as I originally thought, he is in reality off the scale worse
6 A person like Matt Hancock could actually exist and get a job
7 Masks work… just testing to see if you are paying attention
8 Drinking in the woods can be fun
Great list! Can I add…
9 A virus can’t get you if you are sitting down.
10 Or having a meal.
11 But a virus can get you if you are alone in a car, so wear a mask to be on the safe side.
12 Worst plague ever, but a mask made from an old T-shirt will provide total protection.
13 But the T-shirt protection lasts only until your friends in government have purchased a few too many FFP2 masks from their friends.
Not forgetting:
14 Final confirmation that large numbers of our police are frighteningly thick and their supervisors even more unfit for purpose.
To be fair to Lockdown, that’s been obvious since the 1960s
Excellent addendum!!
Latest: Pantie hose provide better protection when worn over your head than a mask! ( real!)
I look forward to seeing the ‘pantihosed’ sheepie on the streets and in their cars
It has been without doubt, the most revelatory of experiences!…Oh, don’t forget, 9 The legacy media and most of the online stuff is infact Neo-Pravda for the rancid establishment, and 10 “The Science” is infact a dog turd…
https://www.tichyseinblick.de/meinungen/viel-zeit-zur-inneren-gesundung-des-abendlandes-bleibt-nicht/
This is a good article in German going through the 5 main lessons reg. scientists, politics, media, the people etc..
I can’t find the source anymore but I just read roughly the following reg. the main lesson: ‘I now know exactly which of my family members, colleagues and so-called friends don’t get liberty, morality and ethics at all and would as such not hesitate a second before turning me over to the authorities or even pull the trigger themselves. For that lesson, I am very grateful indeed.’
A doctatorship, in this case
I’ll add another to the list:
A disturbing number of our fellow citizens, whom we see and mix with every day, have a propensity to evil. In another time and another place, they’d have been helping to load the trains.
I can never look on the British people in the same light again.
Yep- we always thought we were better didn’t we? No East Germany here or surrendering like the French. Well, that’s clearly utter cobblers now. Almost everyone in out village, (which unsurprisingly also has a high percentage of public sector and professional types who never set foot in the real world), was and is a full on lockdown and mask fanatic, all have stated many times that they would not hesitate to report rule breakers to the proper authorities and indeed they did on more than one occasion. One poor sod got arrested in his own pub for allowing a few mates in for a drink during Lockdown 2. It is their moral duty, you see. As you can imagine, seeing me without a mask and even worse, not forcing my young son to wear one makes me quite unpopular.
Indeed – they may yet still spire to the role.
This is not over.
Brilliant!!
Your Hall of Shame nominee is..?
( I have already bagged Fauci and Andrew Hill – c’mon TY, lets have a separate tag to “LS HoS” with citations and voting opportunity…)
I learned about the marvellous protection a Scotch Egg gives you from a virus. Who would have thought an egg, sausage and breadcrumbs fried in deep oil would be so beneficial to your health?
Hats off to this!
The imminent rise in domestic gas and electricity costs is another consequence of the past 2 years’ living in Never-Never Land. But I don’t think even now the public are making the connection.
Plus destroying our electricity generating capacity for some green bollox
Some motorists have noticed that if someone glues him or herself to the road the wasted petrol and increased emissions don’t really count so the police don’t need to move them on, whereas if it is normal people going about in cars at sensible speeds doing useful work then the petrol and emissions suddenly count.
This awareness has created a crack in consciousness which can be increased.
They should reverse up to such people and give them a face full of exhaust fumes.
One person’s increased cost is another person increased revenue and the “CO2 is pollution hoax” promoters are getting than income
I’m sure an insane MMTer will be along to say it doesn’t matter because it “balances out” but then it also does if you were mugged at knifepoint.
As I said in a comment on another DS post this morning, (with a Gilbert and Sullivan theme) you can never get a Lord High Executioner these days when you need one.
This site has prevented many a mental health hospitalisation.
Even apart from this, why were our and the public’s personal experiences never taken into account? Anecdotal evidence is not necessarily less important or valid than numbers on a page.
Policies enacted were wrong and cruel, but also irrational. There was no two-way dialogue with the people, nor any consultation with dissenters.
In short, a tyranny arose: arrogant and foolish. Toby is vindicated by real science, which must from now on be governed by consent and truth telling to power.
We won, but the cost will be felt for years to come. And few will thank us for our stand.
“Won”…prevailed in the very short term maybe, but don’t think “won” is quite how I would describe matters.
Just think about how the PC Mob may have lost the moral and intellectual argument – and hence you might say “we won”, but all that did was hasten the “Woke/GR/WEF” Brigade.
For me , this is now a life remaining existential struggle and I ain’t a “give up” person. The Plandemic scammers will be back, out on it, and it will be very much uglier next time.
We have not won – false dawn! Guard down – enemy strikes!
There are Four fronts opening against the people :
1, The Carbon Zero and green insanity which will ruin us all
2, The attack on the Human Rights act regarding “bodily autonomy” with the weasel words “in the public interest” and “for the common good” to be used to allow politicians to force vaccinate the population with whatever they please and over-ride the Nuremberg Code in their new “Bill of Rights”
3 The plan for the NHS which needs to read ti be believed and which will stun people into disbelief with what a dystopian future is envisaged as the services as we know them are withdrawn.
4.Gates has not finished with his his mass vaccination( plural )projects – only just started- a new “deadly virus” will probably appear.. He keeps mentioning smallpox.
5 .The economic meltdown planned by the Central Banks and their allies to force digital currency on us for which they need to impose their ‘digital passports’.
Serious trouble ahead .
It doesn’t matter if the vilifiers don’t care and choose not to remember they vilified. This same lot don’teven remember, or care, that they were banging on about 2016 US elections as been rigged by Russia. There was no evidence, it was all a fabricated conspiracy theory but they don’t care, in their mind only the other side has conspiracy theories, not them.
I found this site to be very useful, especially the comments section which allows excellent quality sceptical information sharing, so a big thank you to all the contributors and the Daily Sceptic. I believe that this anonymous but open debate/information exchange and questioning formula could be used to solve many other problems or mysteries quite rapidly. Keep up the good work.
Nothing works!
As expected when one resorts to practicing alchemy and witchcraft.
I only wish I found this website about a whole year earlier! Deffinatelly helped me a lot. Thank you Toby.
Kudos to Mr. Young for standing up against this “load of old squit” (Suffolk dialect), and for putting up with the foul opprobrium that came his way. Thanks also to the other numerous contributors to the site, especially Will Jones, for level-headed and dispassionate data analysis and dissection, commentary, and contradiction of the innumerable falsehoods that have been fed to the people of this country.
It’s time for recantations, even apologies, from guilty parties, but I don’t think this is over, by a long chalk. As somebody once said “The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance”. You can get the slippery slime off eels, but it’s built in to many of the people responsible for where we are now, and could be.
But we’re they a disaster though? Sure, as a countermeasure for a virus but that’s only if you believe that was their purpose. Now we live on a sheep farm where all the sheep are scared of their own shadows; I’d say, for the Cabal, they were massively successful.
Karol Sikora forecast an increase in cancer deaths from late diagnosis. Maybe one could add other factors to that.
I think this clever and conscientious specialist is – and will be- proved right. But how many months and years we will have to wait to have an idea of the full knock-on effect who knows? Well quite possibly someone on here has a good idea, but I don’t!
Conventional cancer care is essentially useless as a treatment for the patient but a great way for pharma to extract money from their product victims.
One of the many effects of the covid gene therapy vaccines appears to be a significant increase in cancer.
Recent US military data is showing a 300% cancer incidence increase amongst troops post vaccination.
Absolutely true!
People really do need to keep up with he consequences of the Gene Therapy injections – it is increasingly depressing that so many appear still to have no clue whatever.
How will they manage when the next batch arrives for ‘experimentation’ forced on them by Government ‘in the public interest’ ?
Why does it take an academic study to conclude what was obvious from the very start? It was self evident that the lockdowns were going to wreak economic and social havoc particularly to those with enough savvy to see the elephant in the living room!
The Lockdowns advocated by Ferguson and Sage were intended to cause economic damage and wreck people’s lives .
I Think it is a called “softening up” by the bullying State for the next even harder punch.
People have now become accustomed to being bullied, pushed and ordered around, even targeted assaulted and fined by the State for just walking the streets and of course forced to do stupid things for ‘their own good’ without question or to “protect grandma” ( straight lie).
All this is just a useful first step for Tyrants working on the transition from ‘freedom’ to ‘slavery’.The useless Masks they insisted on people wearing with massive compliance are so dangerous. It will be “vaccine status” badges next.
‘Nanny’ is morphing into Stalin …and no one has even noticed. The tyrants must be pleased with their work so far – using a virus as the excuse to force the injections has made it all so much easier than they expected.
I live next door to a Spire Hospital. I was and still am a sceptic, as I saw no fleets of ambulances, with the sick and dying being ferried into wards, cleared for Covid.
It also meant that I couldn’t see my heart specialist there. Oh, no. A trip to the local NHS hospital for me, in an ambulance.
Only a nervous breakdown, not a heart problem.
Take multiple gene therapies? I’m a sceptic, not stupid.
The shocking thing is that the government knew what a catastrophe lockdown was going to be even from the narrow “lives saved/lost” point of view in April 2020, when they themselves commissioned a report into the potential collateral damage.
From the Metro, Monday 20 Jul 2020 5:39 pm
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/20/coronavirus-lockdown-cause-200000-extra-deaths-13014848/
This was all based on modelling, of course. Funny how the government was happy to accept the SAGE modelling which turned out to be wildly pessimistic, but ignored its own departments’ models, which will probably turn out to be much more realistic.
Why did the government just roll over and accept the push for lockdown?
I suppose we just need to look at the extent to which government these days is run on the basis of what the 24 hour news or the latest Twitter storm is currently shouting about. In the 1970s and 1980s a government U-turn was a huge news story but these days they are ten-a-penny.
I suppose one thing that gives me a bit of encouragement is this: there has been more and more of a push towards “world government” in recent years, with supranational bodies like the EU and the UN gaining more and more power. But in this instance, if we accept for a moment the “incompetence” theory rather than the “conspiracy” theory about the pandemic response, the fact that the entire Western world followed exactly the same policy in lockstep and it turned out to be a complete disaster, while the supposedly backward nations of South Asia and Africa did their own thing and were largely untouched by the pandemic, will make people think a bit more deeply if they really want to give away their national decision making to some supposedly all-knowing, all-powerful globalists.
Because it was never about health, “it’s the economy stupid” preparing for the international bankster planned CBDC and defacto digital monetary slavery
Because Kim Jong Johnson is a populist, he does whatever is popular or whatever he’d be unpopular for not doing.
Exactly!
‘Why did the government just roll over and accept the push for lockdown?’
If I recall correctly SAGE were not calling for lockdown before Johnson imposed it, it was only after Johnson imposed it that SAGE got with the programme and began offering justifications to support the policy that had already been implemented.
It seems that our own Government is handing all responsibility for national decision making to a bunch of Billionaires, Big Pharma Corporations, Cultural Marxists and the Banks.
Lunatic “Zero Carbon” for a nation that contributes just 1% of World Carbon emissions – to please Marxist Globalists in the UN and play the Billionaires’ game – all because Johnson wants a pat on the head from Bill Gates and his deranged sociopathic Globalist friends, obsessed with destroying this country and many others in furtherance of their own self -serving agendas and insatiable greed!
Unless you were right!
Mark Twain: “A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World Before the Truth Puts On its Shoes”
The truth has put it’s shoes on, the lie is still wearing Jackboots.
Some nations had much higher death rates than others.
These differences are often but down to population age, diabetes etc
But what if the the differnces are down to various governments intentionally killing their citizens?
In the USA Fauci mandated that only Remdesivir could be used for in hospital care and prohibited anything effective like ivermectin and HCQ in the out patient setting.
Remdesivir was an experimental drug that had only recently been withdrawn from an ebola trial because it was found to be insanely toxic.
So why did Fauci mandate that this new lethal toxic drug was to be the treatment of choice in American hospitals?
Which is more deadly… COVID or the hospitals?https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZahjuT9bAxLO/
https://assets.ctfassets.net/syq3snmxclc9/2mVob3c1aDd8CNvVnyei6n/95af7dbfd2958d4c2b8494048b4889b5/JAG_Docs_pt1_Og_WATERMARK_OVER_Redacted.pdf
Not sure how valid this is, but its not gone away
There is apparently a great difference between Uttar Pradesh and Tamil Nadu states in India re death rates. The former embraced IVM and the latter banned it.
“…why did Fauci mandate that this new lethal toxic drug?”
Why not?
He did it before back in the Eighties, with AZT, which killed a whole bunch of gay folk.
Fauci has form.
See RFKJ’s excellent, meticulous exposure of Fauci’s overt criminality in his book “The Real Anthony Fauci” – all is made crystal clear …and yes, it is a conspiracy.
Read the first 100 pages of “The Real Anthony Fauci..” – RFK Jnr explains all with numerous cited references…..
Yes, this is the proof we were *cough* right all along. As we knew.
Now the question is why. Why were the lockdowns implemented in lockstep all around the world by governments of every stripe? As if they were working off a script.
Who wrote that script?
Or did that script spontaneously emerge out of the primordial slime of the swamp of cock-up?
I suspect we will be waiting a little longer for the report on that one.#
Nevertheless, while I still think James will be vindicated in the long run for the forces behind this insanity, Toby certainly has stuck his head well and truly above the parapet from the beginning, and to this I say: respect. And well done. And three cheers.
Thank you to Daily Sceptic one and all for this site.
Let Klaus enlighten you –
Flashback 2017: Klaus Schwab Admits WEF Penetration Into Governments & Cabinets The World Overhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/uDJFvScRhQwZ/
Because the ideology, the ideas behind lockdown, dominate the world.
Green ideology had been doing its work before Covid and then it was put into practice.
Ignore all the mindless dullards, they implicitly deny they have a mind, who speak of conspiracies.
James Delingpole is an example of what I mention, his conspiracy theory is mindless, all of them are.
In Weimar Germany, Hitler rose when the German people put into practice what they’d been taught. The same happened in response to Covid and, again, it was German philosophy, this time repackaged in China.
Confused.
Glad to see this in the MSM, especially the Mail who has actually banned commentators for stating this fact.
Gates has funded all our major media outlets – including the Daily Telegraph.
@Toby – You were right about lockdowns, but you shouldn’t complain in the Daily Heil about being called a “eugenicist” because a eugenicist is exactly what you presented yourself as in this 2015 article.
the government mandating genetics would be eugenics a sort of gene marxism.we currently have dysgenics whereby fertility is redistributed away from the productive to the feckless.
The taxpayer subsidy for it in the last paragraph is marginally eugenicist, I would prefer parents purchase disability insurance for their future children.
Just watched a very prescient programme about a group of eugenicists who fought to take over the world and lost – that was series 1 episode ??? the original …Star Trek.
They got the date wrong – 1990’s – but the some of the rest was spookily on message for the 2020’s.
They lost?
Star Trek 1 …Wobbly sets , silly costumes funny masks and naive plots where goodies win ….back in those innocent days
Wasn’t Joe Rogan censored for claiming this exact thing happened?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx2FFPhbNIY
DOH Whistleblower Says Covid Inflated for Profit ‘He went for gunshot wounds and was coded as COVID’
“lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument”.
they were before March 2020. So what changed?
It wasn’t a pandemic so it was for other reasons?
Green ideology provided the mysticism, the doomsday cultism, Covid was just a convenient vehicle.
Green ideology is, taken to the extremes it is at the moment, positively barbaric and sociopathic. It loves the concepts of depopulation, abortion, euthanasia and re-wilding, while it doesn’t wish to see the agony that any such schemes would cause, and certainly wishes to save its own elite for preservation.
You don’t need to go far to see such views expressed. Comment sections everywhere are full of these notions, expressed smugly, sanctimoniously, and heartlessly. These three attitudes together are both illogical and deeply repellent.
Green ideology is nihilistic, it always has been.
It begins with primacy of consciousness in metaphysics, followed by mystic doomsday cultism.
The rest follows from that. It has the same basis as communism, fascism and German socialism and desires the results achieved by communism, fascism and German socialism.
Green ideology is not a virtue, even in moderation.
Agreed!
One positive of the last 2 years
we have found that scientists can have utter confidence in models that turn out to be terrible. I suspect the main difference between covid models and climate models is that covid models fail quicker.
knowing this might save us all in the long run
Scientists will believe in (or in Latinate, “have confidence in”) their own cr*pholes if that’s where the money is or (which is closely related) if not doing so would damage their reputations.
Yes it’s like opinion pollers reliably find what the person paying for the polling wants them to find, the same is true of research grants.
“opinion pollers” – to whom could you possibly be referring..?
Don’t worry, they will just claim that the climate has caught covid and charge twice as much for some new models that are even more ridiculous.
They commit the logical fallacy of argument from authority, something they use to pretend their works of absurd fantasy are science.
They’re the modern day Trofim Lysenko, the Piltdown man hoaxer etc.
The Royal Society’s motto is “Nullius in verba”. They seem to have forgotten that recently.
Just that someone is doing something with numbers and computers doesn’t make that someone a scientist. Neither does an academic title. A scientist would be someone working on expanding our knowledge about the real world. By making observations, formulating theories based on them and ultimatively, designing and conducting repeatable experiments supposed to validate or falsify those theories.
Depends whether you think it’s positive for humanity as a whole. Undermining the confidence of the general public could end up being philosophical suicide for some of them. I think it’s true that there are often obsessive, narrow minded extremists in certain areas (sometime known as specialism), such as those you mentioned. Many journalists will make a profit out of it, as well.
They have a Marxist Red Green dogmatic agenda first and their “model” results follow.
This is so obvious , why is this so hard to understand?
These pseudo-scientists are not objective.
Sections of my family and friends still vilify me. The damage is done, the healing will never happen.
Is there a reasonable estimate of how many people died as a direct result of lockdown?
Coronavirus lockdown could cause ‘200,000 extra deaths’ | Metro News
From Monday 20 Jul 2020 so It’s probably multiples of that number now!
So I wonder how Oz and NZ will take the news!
They’ll ignore it.
Their media will censor it so most will never hear it.
Given that just about every Tory and Labour MP were all in favour of lockdown you can bet your balls that absolutely everything will be done to ignore this finding and those like it.
Of course those responsible will claim that Ferguson’s comedy study claiming that lockdown saved hundrds of thousands of lives will be held aloft as the most high proof.
Professor Kees van der Pijl discusses his new book which explains how the virus crisis is a fraud and cover for political seizure of power. The medical emergency is just a pretext for digital identity passport systems. He discusses the players behind this ruling oligarchy whose concentration is unprecedented in history. Elites are using a strategy of tension to subjugate an otherwise unruly global populace which has been on the verge of 1848-style revolution. The medical phase of the coup can turn toward war (e.g. Russia) as another means of consolidating rule. The ruling class believes they have a small window of time to cement their power on the heels of the historic AI revolution. He explains the mechanisms by which the oligarchy is able to impose worldwide regulatory processes on entire continents and how China is cooperating in this ‘ultra-imperialism’ with the West. He’s optimistic that the political project that is Covid can’t go on for much longer, will fall apart, and that they do not yet possess the technology required to roll out a total digital control system. A core group of society is also increasingly rejecting their insane vision of the future.
https://odysee.com/@GeopoliticsAndEmpire:f/KeesVanDerPijl-Virus-Seizure-Of-Power:2
Great post
More please – this a great post!
Of course they were a disaster generally. But I can’t be alone in knowing people who are still voluntarily locked down because they think the situation is the same as it was back in 2020. They are not helped by being the sort of people who trust the BBC implicitly (after all, when they were children, wasn’t it the good old BBC who kept them fully informed and comforted by news stories of Blighty’s battle against Hitler) and are swallowing doom laden stories wholesale. Then again, we’ve got the trumpeting of the covid ‘restrictions’ going, when they haven’t really at all. If you are of a nervous (or cynical) disposition, you might feel that the withdrawal is temporary, pending the virus (and Chris Whitty) coming back to terrorise us once again, so what is the point of getting back to normal.
Personally I will only relax when the coronavirus laws expire and are not replaced, although I am concerned that certain bills currently aimed at parliament might be a partial permanent replacement for parts of that legislation.
No, not generally ..”universally”!
Meanwhile setting themselves further against Logic, reason & worldwide evidence, especially from the Skandi countries they love to reference, the Scottisch Natzi Party are to spend almost 1/2 million cutting the bottom off classroom doors while ignoring their function as fire barriers.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/02/classroom-doors-chopped-scotland-tackle-covid-spread/
Lessons from lockdown:
The lockdown fanatics in the media and government with their enthusiasm for fascist dogma will never be forgotten.
The meek man on the street who has endured injury with patience while maintaining a rationale mind will also never be forgotten.
A good choice of name, for those who can remember what happened in his place a few years ago! Perhaps today’s historians, or their future students, will be able to come up with a reasonable story about it all, if the whole truth becomes known eventually.
As someone here said the damage has been done and cannot be undone.
However much we would like to, you cannot hurt those at fault in their lack of intellect, their lack of reason, their lack of integrity or their lack of principles
But you can hurt them in the pocket. Perhaps Toby and everyone else who was shamed, abused, vilified, no platformed, ridiculed and insulted should launch legal action against each and every person and institution that engaged in such activity
defamation of character is a good start, followed by damage to reputation, loss of earnings, libel and slander and consequential damages
we need people in power who weren’t in favour of lockdown. only then will it all come out. I’d like to see genuine prosecutions of Whitty. He was CMO when either he left us without a plan or the plan he signed off was binned.
I’m still waiting for a journo to ask the people who wrote the 2011 pandemic response plan i) why did you write something so bad or ii) was it actually good and what did you think about them throwing it away?
Vallance is especially vulnerable as he’s eco-health…
So they want to seize our money in various ways, and give it back as social payments after checks on our Health Passport……..
I’m waiting for certain close members of my family to admit that us sceptics were right and their path of lockdown enthusiasm was wrong.
FREEZES, HELL,OVER,WHEN: Please rearrange.
Yes, Toby was absolutely correct. None of the suffering we have all been through has achieved anything at all. Focussed protection would have saved far more lives at far less cost and with far less suffering. Instead of tearing families apart, we could have brought healthy people together to protect the vulnerable.
Next we need to expose the ridiculousness of vilifying the unvaccinated, the pointlessness of restrictions on international travel and the insanity of chronic maskitis.
none of the suffering we have been through, or that which has been put in train for future generations to suffer
I confess that I have, for the most part, enjoyed posting comments on ‘coronavirus’ stories on the BBC website (under a different nom de keyboard – it’s another thing I have had a laugh over during all of this: all the different personas I have taken on, especially for Trick and Trap). Yes, I was careful in my framing of my point of view (there’s no point in being awkward if your post is removed), but it was ALWAYS opposite the tripe prevailing there.
It’s gratifying that everything I posted there has now come to pass, or is now accepted fact, so my thanks to everyone here, atl and btl, for keeping me properly informed.
Don’t worry Toby, I’ll think you witness those who were pro vaccine, pro lockdowns either dying from gene altering therapy quitting public life. The obscene amount of money certain individuals made still won’t be enough once the financial system collapses.
The lunatics won’t stop, here’s another variant…
Omicron BA.2 variant: The new Covid strain ‘may be even more infectious’ – symptoms (msn.com)
Watch the MSM having a field day here…
Thought it was the Ba Ba scariant.
In December 2020, Dominic Lawson, who might have been expected to defend liberty, said lockdown sceptics were Harold Shipman, a truly disgusting smear.
Never again will I read his paper or anything he writes.
Email him and demand a public retraction….that will test him.
Struck off the short list of journalists with integrity to be taken seriously…..hardly any left on it!
The good news: Lockdowns have been very good at flushing out the ultra-fascists in society.
The bad news: There are way more fascists than anyone could have imagined…
On the plus side most of those people have been cramming clot shots into their bodies just as fast as they can.
But have any people at the top of the tree, like
Schwab, Farrar, Gates, Ferguson, Whitty, Vallance, van Tam, Fauci, Blair, Fink, Biden, Pelosi, CEOs of Google, F’book, Twitter, M’soft, Amazon, Board of BIS, CEOs of Moderna, Pfizer, BioNTech
& maybe 3,000 more like them
taken it?
Sadly I see it as I always knew there were a large number of irredeemable morons in society but there are way more morons than anyone could have imagined….
Either way now we know who they are
I look forward to the meta anaylsis showing that the various gene therapy injections do indeed kill vast numbers of people in a multitude of ways whilst offering no tangible benefit in terms of keeping people not a risk from a virus safe.
A bit more about the attempt to alert the NZ government of contamination/nanotech in the vaxxes.
After being denied a meeting with the Director General of Health and other health officials, the information was presented to a Health Select Committee through lawyer Sue Grey where again attempts were made to stop the information from being presented.
Dr Matthew Shelton talks to Sue Grey about the findings and Donna Pokere-Phillips, a Maori Minister of the People outside of parliament
https://futurenews.news/watch?id=61f8a3c91a1abc308b86b5e2
https://odysee.com/@spearhead4truth:e/Nanotech-discovery-280122:9
Deranged Femi-Fascism – alive and prospering in NZ ( Klaus Schwab Davos School of Political Indoctrination in action!)
I don’t think many of us will disagree with this assessment save for the idea that lockdowns saved 0.2 lives. I am personally convinced that many more people died as a direct result of them. But how much mainstream media coverage is this research being afforded?
Oh the irony, considering the dubious stuff the NHS and the government are peddling.
It was in response to beauticians using some forms of Botox.
Someone asked in comments if the beauticians can apply for emergency measures.
Comedy gold
https://mobile.twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1489226867844562944
oops I’ve put this in the wrong thread!
I lost my twitter account because I kept saying lockdowns won’t and don’t work! They said I was spreading dangerous information!!!
Lockdown does work.
It achieves it’s goal of obtaining the results of lockdown.
As they are fully behind the Globalist Elites Coup currently underway …they would wouldn’t they?
There will never be enough evidence. The mantra will always be ‘lockdown policies worked’.
No it will not when the liars are fully exposed!
Anyone notice a deterioration in driving out there?I was totalled just before Xmas by a woman quite clearly distracted by World events as she tumbled out of her car grabbing her mask.It was my fault apparently though vaccidents are on the rise.
It’s been mentioned several times on the Reddit lockdown sceptics forum. Zombies driving just as one would expect a zombie to drive.
Actually, yes. People seem more erratic and aggressive. Another side effect of the jab?
They are still terrified – their comfortable world and sense of security has been shaken up shattered by our Government.
This is obviously deliberate when you consider whole fully published and detailed ‘Great Reset’ agenda.
More to come – first the outrageous energy price hike.
Yes – driving is more dangerous every day! The stupid Highway Code changes should increase the danger – is this deliberate, to stoke confusion and anger?
Rudolf Steiner talked about how the fear of the contagion might very well propagate the contagion. We live in a world of thought forms and it would do us well to get out of it. That’s the only way to set aside a beautiful reality for the younguns.
It’s a good schtick in terms of the masks because when you look at them you can see that the mask wearers are already damaged people and now they have something to latch onto. And the last few decades have messed enough people up real horrorshow so it is easy to switch it on and off. Some people call them zombies but at least zombies tend to want brains. I have no idea what these people want.
It’s striking to me that Facebook can ban a private group (with 140,000 members) seeking to organize a peaceful protest against vaccine passports and no one even bats an eye that they did this. Certainly, no news organization has published an editorial condemning this brazen censorship. This is simply okay. No big deal anymore.
Contrast this with the reaction if Facebook had banned a group trying to support the Black Lives Matter protests. These protests actually resulted in many deaths and destruction of property on a massive scale.
The lesson: All speech – all protestors – are not created equal. It’s okay to discriminate against one group if this group’s cause doesn’t align with the Powers that Be.
Facebook shares tumbling down
Not far enough,
Facebook works for Globalist power grab objectives . Why use it?
Facebook is not your friend.
I’ve never given a toss if someone agrees or not. It shouldn’t matter. If it does matter it means that you are not operating on a sincere basis. No one has ever agreed with me even in school and I am neither happy or sad about it. Don’t look for fellowship it will lead you away from true spirituality.
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Toby may rejoice over the Lockdown Enthusiasts who are now recanting ….. personally I want them tarred and feathered.
Well done for keeping up the fight Toby, I assume Neil O’Brien has been in touch to apologise
Despicable lying propaganda, worthy of Goebbels, deployed by the entire Johnson Government under supervision of the psy-op operators from Sage while the media were doctored and censored to conceal the truth – and still are !
We need a clean out at the top of this country!
A Government ‘ at war’ with its own people ? Who would have thought it!
‘Nero’ Johnson parties while England groans – Did he plan to “Build Back Better” with his ‘Golden House’ on the ruins?
Lockdowns did not work because they were never lockdowns, so were doomed to fail. A lockdown requires strict quarantining of everyone – so no travel, no deliveries, no admissions to hospital (and no discharges), no working, no socialising. And this would have to have been worldwide. What we got, however, as was elegantly put by one of your articles, was a lockdown of the frightened middle class who were serviced by the non- lockdowned workers. Every new wave was precipitated by introduction from abroad. They were not, therefore, lockdowns at all. And, of course, even preventing any immigration was also impossible because people were allowed in when they were infected but asymptomatic. The Australian experience proved that.
At least it does now appear that viral mutation has resulted in a downgrading of serious risk to that of the common cold, so perhaps we will not be far behind Sweden and Denmark in abandoning useless and unnecessary restrictions. It is a pity that the “scientists” abandoned their pandemic management measures thanks to hysteria and the perceived risk of doing nothing when (almost) everyone else was doing something.