Professor Mark Woolhouse, an expert on infectious diseases at Edinburgh University, has a new book out, The Year the World Went Mad: A Scientific Memoir, in which he blasts lockdowns as morally wrong and highly damaging. He writes:
We did serious harm to our children and young adults who were robbed of their education, jobs and normal existence, as well as suffering damage to their future prospects, while they were left to inherit a record-breaking mountain of public debt. All this to protect the NHS from a disease that is a far, far greater threat to the elderly, frail and infirm than to the young and healthy.
The Observer has run a feature on the book this morning.
There was a distinctive moment, at the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, that neatly encapsulated the mistakes and confusion of Britain’s early efforts to tackle the disease, says Mark Woolhouse. At a No 10 briefing in March 2020, cabinet minister Michael Gove warned the virus did not discriminate. “Everyone is at risk,” he announced.
And nothing could be further from the truth, argues Professor Woolhouse, an expert on infectious diseases at Edinburgh University. “I am afraid Gove’s statement was simply not true,” he says. “In fact, this is a very discriminatory virus. Some people are much more at risk from it than others. People over 75 are an astonishing 10,000 times more at risk than those who are under 15.”
And it was this failure to understand the wide variations in individual responses to COVID-19 that led to Britain’s flawed responses to the disease’s appearance, he argues – errors that included the imposition of a long-lasting, national lockdown. This is a strategy that Woolhouse – one of the country’s leading epidemiologists – describes as morally wrong and highly damaging in his forthcoming book, The Year the World Went Mad: A Scientific Memoir. …
“We were mesmerised by the once-in-a-century scale of the emergency and succeeded only in making a crisis even worse. In short, we panicked. This was an epidemic crying out for a precision public health approach and it got the opposite.”
Prof Woolhouse argues that largely voluntary behaviour changes, as in Sweden, would have been sufficient to limit the impact. But we instead went for an enforced lockdown, in part because because modern technology made it possible.
However, Prof Woolhouse criticises the Great Barrington Declaration, arguing it “would have led to an epidemic far larger than the one we eventually experienced in 2020”, and that it also “lacked a convincing plan for adequately protecting the more vulnerable members of society, the elderly and those who are immuno-compromised”.
Unfortunately, he still supports attempting to suppress the virus using masks, testing and other measures intended to make interactions ‘safe’. And while he is emphatic in opposing lockdowns – “Lockdowns aren’t a public health policy. They signify a failure of public health policy” – he is a proponent of responding to the next variant with a pre-prepared “sliding scale of interventions and trigger points for implementing them”.
In other words, he still supports ongoing extreme public health interventions that seriously impede people’s ability to live normally, run businesses, access healthcare and so on, he just doesn’t call them ‘lockdowns’. Presumably he is unfamiliar with the studies that show such interventions do little or nothing to suppress the virus.
Still, allies on some points aren’t always allies on others, and it’s good to have another eminent voice decrying lockdowns as “mad”, and even getting sympathetic coverage in the Observer. A sign of things to come, perhaps.
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Can we give this man a Knighthood?
His views don’t actually look that great, reading the article to the end.
Agreed. Hardly a committed libertarian.
As 2022 starts – time for a quick plandemic review methinks?
So since that ultra-convenient release of SARS Cov2 [Oct 2019] into the human race for the eugenics obsessed Davostokracy cabal – what have we learned so far?
From 2014 onward, the USA based NIH via Dr. Fauci sent millions of US tax dollars to “CHINA” funding doggy GoF futzing research involving the genetic manipulation of corona viruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
Once the bug was gaining a foothold in China, the CCP imposed quickly an iron fist draconian lockdown of its own population, whilst simultaneously allowing international air travel to and from its own nation, facilitating the virus’s swift worldwide spread and uptake.
Then as the now newly termed COVID pandemic expanded the WHO, and International Govt health officials and critically Neil Ferguson’s modelling [Imperial College] funded by Gates and aided by the International MSM propaganda funded by Gates falsely overestimated death rates, the need for aggressive lockstep lockdowns and draconian public sprit crushing measures. Two weeks to flatten the curve, which led onto the full capture of G7 puppet Govts who all promoted the very same unprecedented policies of waves of prolonged, widespread quarantines of healthy populations and mask wearing, which continue to this very day – two years later.
Simultaneously, in places such as New York State under former governor Andrew Cuomo and back here in the UK, under former health minister Matt Hancock – they both authorised putting hospitalised sick COVID patients back into nursing homes, causing the swift demise of more vulnerable elderly residents, resulting in tens of thousands of unnecessary and avoidable deaths.
Despite definitive genuine alternate scientific evidence from the early stages of the plandemic that COVID posed minimal risk of severe illness and virtually zero deaths in children, that typically children were not significant drivers viral spread, the G7 teachers’ unions with the conniving help of once again Gates influenced health officials and the MSM broadcast propaganda forced schools to close for zoom classes learning for multiple school years, and continue to push for renewed school closures as and when they can. The captured children forced to be distanced and muzzled most of the day in classes.
From the very beginning of this false-flag-fiasco repurposed cheap, existing and extremely safe medications were quickly identified that showed effectiveness in treating SARS Cov2. However thanks to the systematic global cabal movement to suppress and discredit such treatments led by Gates stooge Dr. Fauci, his false blathering’s [boosters] repeated and amplified by the MSM, applauded by Big Pharma, and the woke leaning social media corporations, protecting their financial interests in GAVI, vaccines and other proprietary medicines they had in development, which again criminally resulted in tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths.
Meanwhile as globally warp-speed launched COVID vaccines became available through EUA mandates these experimental non-immunizing gene therapies were heavily promoted by the conflicted interests of usual suspects Dr. Fauci, Gates, Big Pharma and once more the “narrative” was amplified via the MSM and social media under knowingly false pretenses; repeated false claims that the vaccines would provide herd immunity [they technically can’t], were equal or even superior to natural immunity, [they never can be], stopped contraction and transmission of the virus [blatant lies], and were safe and effective for all ages – one again thousands of deaths to date make this criminally unacceptable!
Even here as we push into 2022 – the COVID vaccines are now beyond reasonable doubt doing more harms than good, and are less effectively than conventional drugs such as HCQ, Ivermectin, Famotidine and Monoclonal Antibodies – the Klaus Schwab backed favourite leaders such as Biden, Bozo, Blair, Arden, Turdeau, Macron et al plus all their compromised Govt health officials under the combined GPPP command still continue to press ever harder for repeated doses of these useless damaging vaccines, including among kids all tied to the interlinked global green bio pass vaxx passports.
Finally, though the current dominant strain of COVID this omicrhronic variant is demonstrably more transmissible and much less deadly than prior “mutants” and that our current batch of vaccines were never developed for it, yet Bozo, Savage Jabbit, Fauci, Gates and his international MSM influencer shills are all clamoring for booster uptakes alongside the systematic scapegoating of the unvaccinated, rather than employing targeted niche protection of the vulnerable and the promotion of returning to our lives OLD NORMAL.
So ask yourselves why would TPTB not be encouraging natural herd immunity among the healthy that has already been successfully implemented in places such as Sweden and countries more third world?
Here’s why – Zero COVID = Zero CARBON the 2030 agenda.
We all know what comes next unless we collective pushback harder now.
https://twitter.com/BraTokolloZA_/status/1476088030809182209?s=20
Excellent summary but there is one vital point I would add. That is the rôle played by the pressure on the government from the dysfunctional NHS. It is the fear of it collapsing that drives the government to impose restrictions. The great British public would rather see the Queen having to rough sleep in the Mall than anything bad befall their Holy of Holies. The government knows that it would be out of power for a generation if the NHS failed on their watch. Governments don’t do, never have done, never will do, saving lives but they do do clinging to power at all costs. Hence we are made to dance to the NHS tune, and will be made to so do for all time now they know that the public will sacrifice their old and their young, the weak and the vulnerable to Protect the NHS.
I don’t agree. The govt are quite happy watching the NHS fall apart under cover of the Scamdemic – more deaths, more misery, more fear, BUT it’s not their fault, it’s the C1984 you see.
Yes, I agree.
Go to WEF website and search ‘Strategic Intelligence” . You will need to give them an email address. When it opens you will see the most comprehensive plan for global governance ever conceived – and central to the strategy for consolidating WEF hegemony is covid.
So what do you think happens to the NHS Edumacated eejit when come April 2022 thousands of “smart and highly experienced” health workers quit having resisted the coercive bullying on jabbing to date?
The banker vultures will be delighted to pick off the profitable tit-bits…the shambles NHS remnants left behind will continually then fail the 99%.
The NHS is being dismantled before our eyes and hundreds of doctors have now lost all respect for refusing to do their job to diagnose and treat patients.
The dereliction of duty and calling by doctors is unprecedented since the foundation of the Health Service as they scrambled to protect themselves from a virus non deadly to 97% . Many are still refusing to see patients face to face.
Then there is the Consultant Cardiologist who said to my medically trained friend: “What is Ivermectin ?” just a month ago and a Nurse friend, involved in the injections, who said to me assertively: “It’s just an ordinary vaccine!”
So much for “informed consent”
“History is littered with examples of the atrocities that ensue when the medical profession abandon their traditional principles and judgement in favour of unquestioning subservience to
governmental diktats – medical involvement in torture, human experimentation, forced sterilisation and psychiatric punishment of political dissidents being examples” This was one retired doctor wrote in the BMJ at the start of the coup.
“Retired” like retired Generals they are suddenly allowed to say what they think – because no -one will take any notice.!
The Conservatives have always hated the concept of a National health Service. So it’s back to the olden days when you had to find a shilling for the doctor, and sent your little boy to clean the chimneys of the Lord of the Manor / Downton Abbey.
I thought the NHS had been mostly sold off already, and Dido Harding got a lot of shillings out of it. If you ask her nicely, she might give you a shilling for the doctor, if you’re ill.
More likely she’ll just tell you to piss off.
Couldn’t agree more.
In hospital in March I tried to explain “asymptomatic transmission” as per Dr Yeadon. Cardiologist walked off – “I am not prepared to discuss this.”
The same cardiologist tried also to suggest that my treatment was conditional on taking a PCR test. That was a severe altercation. He did not get his own way.
Ultimately I discharged myself. They could have killed me.
Manchester Royal Infirmary (MRI). AWFUL.
Th NHS Senior Management are in on the whole project – indeed they are playing a vital role in it by coercing the population to accept vaccination – even of their vulnerable children – and exploiting their previous faith in the ‘wonderful’ NHS Institution – it is frankly despicable.
The NHS has never at any time attempted to provide sufficient information to allow informed consent – on the contrary they have withheld it, together with the Yellow Card stats on the unprecedented large number of deaths and serious injuries after injection!
In this alone they have violated the Tort principle of “duty of care” to the public and their obligations under the Nuremberg Code.
The NHS is being wilfully destroyed as a healing refuge point for the poor. Just try and find any free reliable dental care for the untermensch class via the NHS within the UK – it simply no longer exists. Coming soon…not vaxxed oh dear?
For those that can still pay they’ll increasingly have to lean on the corporate insurance and private health industries… but trick-or-treat that Fitbit or Google watch has revealed so much about your inner physical workings.
“Sorry love computer says no!”
This is critical to understand we’ve quietly slipped into two worlds… one of Reality Privilege… the authentic natural places increasingly annexed off for the UHNWs.
https://www.jumeirah.com/en/stay/mallorca/jumeirah-port-soller-hotel-and-spa
As to the underclass worker bees of 2030 they’ll be crushed down into rented hive pod living… so the only way of coping… regular pysop meds and VR worlds of illusory magic.
What’s tragic is 80% of folk reading this think what’s coming is a fiction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCRQu_DGo18
Reminds me of the Japanese capsule hotels.
For many of the younger generation it is here already.
Good video – I watched it all. Zuckerberg is a right creepy weirdo. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night and finding him leaning over you…!
The ‘Metaverse’ is a sicko fantasy world for sicko people.
It has collapsed. It’s no use to most of and I’d avoid like … a plague … if humanly possible. It’s another bloated managerialist bureaucracy. Shop floor staff excellent, but no bureaucracy of any size ever works and soon their purpose is to protect their fiefdom rather than serve those who fund it.
Not to mention the endless non job diversity wanker jobs paying huge salaries and pensions for work which serves nobody. Sodding Equality Act needs to go.
“the rôle played by the pressure on the government from the dysfunctional NHS.”
Wrong way round – actually government in a big cover-up of its failure in public health.
Excellent piece and I agree 100%.
Great piece -please post on on low-tech A5 leaflets, dropped from aircraft across the whole country!
Correct !
people need to realise the health service is being “re-imagined” as we speak, ditto education.
Research the likes of Michael Specter to see the depths this whole agenda goes.
for anyone thinking there’s an existing party political solution to all this, even Wm Hague was a WEF future leader , all totally corrupted into the system.
research parliamentarians for global solutions. They are all globalists. This is why we have such low grade individuals as representatives, they are easily moulded and controlled.
they are absolutely intent on destroying our way of life and to creat a technocracy that we are expected to to grateful for.
the UN sustainable development goals aka agenda 2020/21-2030 and on to the end point at 2050 is the mechanism by which this is being achieved.
Every branch of civil structure has been over-run and captured by a self propelled army of ideologues all bought into the ideals.
Give this man a cigar….
This is what we have to face – and it’s hard.
It simple we’re at war….
Yup-remember that poster that said “suppose they threw a war and nobody came”?
21st century version-“suppose they threw a war and nobody knew”
(well, nearly nobody)
I’m not sure they have bought into the ideals. Remember, in any feudal pyramid, only those at the top know what their real agenda is. Those lower down the ladder have misplaced ideals which unwittingly serve to advance the elites agenda. Look back in history. Everytime a new tyrannical regime emerges, one of the first things they do is liquidate the useful idiots who got them there..
Indeed. The useful idiots such as Bliar, Bozo, Charlie Windsor will be disposed of. They know too much and potentially threaten the elites.
You forgot to mention the bogus hydroxychloroquine trials where Whitty murdered hundreds by giving them excessively high dosages thus ensuring the trial failure.
For which he has received a knighthood. I cannot wait to see this being strung up by his neck until dead, I hope the trials and executions happen in my lifetime.
It’s gone to me brain, every time I hear ‘Chris Whitty’ I think of this ditty. Fast forward to 2:10 for the ‘best bit’!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCxpmegbnE
Very good summary.
Or, put another way:
Unprecedented psychological attack on the people using the vilest propaganda and lies=menticide=state-sponsored terrorism.
Taking away rights&freedoms and making their return conditional on compliance/injection=a protection racket=gangsters.
Care home scandal+removal of NHS/GP services for early diagnosis+banning of viable, life-saving treatments+deadly injections of experimental gene therapy with no idea of long-term effects=mass murder.
We need to call them what they are – liars, terrorists, gangsters and mass murderers.
And we give them knighthoods?
An international disgrace of historic proportions. Our society is sick, all right, but it ain’t covid.
Few are. Regardless, he’s right in what he says
Big Pharma Lynching? Dr. Malone’s ‘Thought Crimes’ That Got Him Deplatformed By Big Tech
https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/01/big-pharma-lynching-dr-malones-thought-crimes-that-got-him-deplatformed-by-big-tech-videos/?utm_source=daily-email&utm_medium=email
They really don’t want you to know about this stuff… but we’ve got the video and PowerPoint inside. BY ZACH HEILMAN
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They seem to be reserved for yes men and useful idiots. The latest batch of “honours” have greatly discredited the whole system.
The same thing happens, year after dreary year, with the unworthy and the downright crooked getting “honours”, seats in the Lords and the rest. What’s worse is that this charade is acted out twice-yearly.
The sole delight for me is ticking off the list of “woke” people, anti-monarchists, Socialists, Communists and fellow-travellers and the other rabble, that otherwise spend their time decrying every minute of this country’s past, and its present institutions. It’s “organised hypocrisy”.
It has always been there – but is now so blatant because of Johnson’s total contempt for the ‘plebs’ of this country.
He couldn’t care less what we think – remember, he gave his brother Joe a peerage ( for what? ) within days of taking Office.
The only real surprise for me was that all the recipients weren’t black.
There is always next year!
You are one of two things: either easily fooled or part of the problem.
Why would he wish to join the besmirched “Circle of Lucifer” ( just look at the recent company!)?
Or are you implying that is where he belongs for peddling his ‘soft propaganda’?
Bill Grates says :-
Anyone taking anything at face value is an idiot (sorry if that sounds offensive).
How do you feel about that?
How to ‘Snap’ Loved Ones Out of COVID Brainwashing
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/01/02/how-to-overcome-fear-addiction.aspx?ui=1fb065e0c4152b58bd4ed94cf29c7cbfad40307fb723460ddabacd55f3c58b0c&sd=20210518&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20220102_HL2&mid=DM1075181&rid=1367547315
Government, corporations and powerful individuals have used systematic ‘grooming’ toward irrational fear for decades – and they’re using it to rob us of our freedoms. So how do you help your brainwashed friends and family see clearly, when they’re essentially in a cult? Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola
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When you are demonised for speaking the truth you are living in tyranny.
No. He’s not on message enough. That’s what gets you an honour. It’s not about credible points of views, it is about 100% agreement with the set narrative.
hands face space – 21 months. Not much change there, despite hands being a nonsense, face laughable and space inconsistent across the globe.
Put him in a room with Tony Blair and let them fight for it!
I see you’ve got 34 down votes. Soros’ minions are busy on here today.
He looks as though he’d accept a knighthood too. “Arise, Sir Mark.”
When he goes to Buckingham Palace, perhaps he can take Ole Jacob Sunde, chairman of the Scott Trust (owner of the Guardian Media Group, which publishes the Observer), with him:
For those who think the Observer or Guardian might be about to follow in the footsteps of the Sunday Times which broke the thalidomide scandal in 1972, here’s a 2016 piece by Trudy Lieberman about how these swindlers are up to their necks in putting out propaganda for Big Pharma, just like the rest of the MSM:
“Sponsored content gets even more slippery: Disappearing disclosures and other dirty tricks designed to fool readers“.
The Guardian is a mouthpiece for CIA/MI5/MOSSAD operations
Did he speak out at the time?
Oh well, better late than never.
He is 2 years too late and stating what is well known, what he doesnt address is why governments deliberately did this to its population.
All smoke and mirrors and probably in bed with toby & boris.
It was ON,YA because of modern technology that we had lockdown. Before the internet it would not have been tolerated. End of.
The crowning irony is that connecting via the Internet is the on,y means we have of resisting.
People managed to resist well enough before the internet
He made two sensible points,
Otherwise, he’s as much a twat as Ferguson & Whitty et al. & Gupta is a fully paid up socialist, she was all in on the vaccines. She’s always singing their praise.
If shop workers, van drivers, etc had refused to work, there would have been no lockdown. As someone observed, this whole business has been about the upper/middle classes relaxing in their large houses and gardens while the gig economy workers brought them things.
And all the lasses at our Tesco check outs are not dead.
That’s one thing I noticed myself ages ago – shop workers haven’t keeled over with ‘Covid’. Another issue that points to there being no real ‘pandemic’ from ‘a virus’.
Cinema in Swansea closed. All supermarkets open. Can’t catch Covid in the supermarket!
They will cut off the internet when it suits them – and no-platform serious opposition – Robert Malone – inventor of mRNA – now banned from Twitter for telling the truth about the Covid injections.
More likely people’s computers will be directed to Internet sites such as the BBC and ‘SAGE Advice Corner’ where you can ‘interact’ with ‘experts’.
Your Internet connection will be limited to ‘non-misinformation’ sites.
Internet connected phone = Trojan Horse and everyone’s got one; my 93 year old mother was correct all along it seems ;-))
It was fun whilst it lasted – being able to send text messages, and then WhatsApp messages with photos and videos, and access to seemingly unlimitless info via the Internet……….. and then we saw we had gone in too far and others had wrapped it all around us and we were imprisoned in a virtual, digital hell.
I can’t pay my bills without being close to my phone! Nearly everything has to be done by computer now. A long list of User Names and Passwords.
Still, the Internet is handy for all kinds of things – renewing Passports and Driving Licences without having to go into the cities.
Dont be fooled. This guy is part of the problem. He is selling the ‘once in a century pandemic’ line that was badly mishandled. Only controlled opposition are given a platform on the establishments media. It gives the impression of balance. There was a virus, but it did not constitute a pandemic nor warrant emergency legislation and forced experimental medical procedures. He is not an idiot. He knows full well who and what is behind this vast deception.
Indeed he does – his article is ‘soft propaganda’, which ultimately supports the narrative.
Indeed.
It will take palatable ‘paradigm shifters’ like this man to allow the elites to absorb our opinions, and claim they always believed them.
This is how ‘change’ occurs in the UK: the ‘rebels’: real, most usually aesthetic, toady to the system and allow that system to reshape its own assumptions, because the tide is turning. The system does not wish to be overthrown, so it undergoes change in substance or style.
As long as the elites change their policies as soon as possible, I don’t care if aesthetic/fake rebels are knighted to kingdom come.
You are right up to a point, that is the UK way. But if TPTB keep resisting change our history shows we do proper rebellion to get things moving more quickly
There will be no rebellion. As demonstrated over the last two years, the regime applies pressure to see how far it can go before pushback. When they sense pushback is coming, the ease off the gas but do not return to their orginal position. Rinse and repeat. This is how they slowly tighten our leash, one link at a time.
Yes…this is so obviously exactly the tactic they are applying with help of their Sage advisers – hence the ‘granting’ ( sic! of ) mild relief over Christmas.
New ‘shock horror’ invented Covid stats and Daily Mail Hellfire graphs in blood red already on the way to force the ” oh so reluctant”, hand-wringing Johnson to close down the country again- (sobs!)
Pathetic rather than cunning stunts, which normally would not fool a five-year old seem to have the “silent majority” mesmerised in thrall!
Our nemesis will surely be ‘stupidity’.
The serfs in this country have never rebelled, it’s all nonsense, the English invented servitude, for the last 500 years we’ve been living in a deluded trance of Stockholm syndrome. Some people are so invested in their own slavery, they vote for it every 5 years.
Exhibit 1: the widespread admiration of the Queen.
Exhibit 2: the honours list – basically a system of gold stars for adults, in which the majority of the population allows a self appointed elite to judge them for their “value to society” and give them badge when they’ve been good boys and girls.
Compared to the ‘intellectualised’ French, we are a politically illiterate nation with a psychophantic obsession and touching allegiance to an outdated and privileged Monarchy – which has money and power without responsibility and yet is still religiously idolised by the majority population .
In effect, we have have had no active ‘Head of State’ for years and now appear to have no applicable Constitution or rights that cannot just be torn up on whim either – other than those given us by Common Law (if you can find a Judge brave enough to apply them!).
This “Emergency Powers Enabling Act”, used to create the Johnson Tyranny With no End has certainly opened a few eyes and blown away a few misconceptions about imagined and cherished British “freedoms”!
Sadly the level of debate coming from the usually pseudo intellectual Left over the last few years has been pitiful to say the least, as they submit to Globalist Stakeholder Capitalism with enthusiasm, like Turkey’s voting for Christmas ( or should that be the Winter Holiday?) without realising that the model excludes the Working Class and condemns it to the Cyborg slave gang “Happy and owning nothing”!
Meanwhile, Globalist Starmer with his ‘Trilateral Commission’ membership and ‘powerful friends’ seeks to crush the Labour Party to secure his own position at the Globalist High table!
The Parliamentary Opposition is Leaderless in the biggest national crisis of our generation – its leader has joined the ‘enemy’!
The monarchy is not just ‘outdated and privileged’ – it has been replaced at the top of the feudal pyramid, along with all the other monarchical top dogs who used to rule the roost, by ‘the bankers’ ie the same people who funded the French and Russian revolutions. This thing has been centuries in the making.
Yes – “they are all in it together”.
The Windsors have to go, way past their sell by.
I am not so sure Kneel Starmer has “joined” the enemy, I think he has always been there.
We live in a one party state and given the degree of propaganda and indoctination from cradle to grave, not more than 1 in a 1000 are aware of it. be
Does De Pfeffel pretend to trace himself back to the Norman Conquest I wonder?
‘Freedom Day’ – now 5 months ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-asEn-Nmi4
Proper rebellion may still happen. The question is, how pragmatic are the elites?
As long as they benefit from the resistance, they are happy to pretend to embrace its ‘ideology’ – cf. ‘Blue Wall Conservatism’.
These are cynics and cowards, not committed to anything but exploiting the ‘dialectic’ (Blair’s magic wand reloaded).
The elites control all the position of power and nodes of communication. If they sense that they are going to face real pushback – they will pull the plug on the internet and what little opposition they face will be finished. It will, of course, be called a Russian cyber attack.
To the extent that the elites are a hydra, with factions in competition, it will be in the interests of some of them to accommodate opposition of sufficient size/threat, if only as a tactical measure to further their own power.
They can of course continue ignoring us and propagandising the rest, quite successfully, without obviously taking the internet down.
When has this happened & whose “we”?
The French have form ( one year of the Gilets Jaunes) and were heavily on the streets again yesterday ( censored by UK media of course).
Meanwhile, “Figaro” readers express total blistering contempt for Macron as a popinjay destroyer of France and all things French in a ratio of 98% to 2% .
Interesting how ‘Brexit Britain’ is now cut-off and isolated from ‘continental developments ‘in news ( especially very significant levels of resistance to the new tyranny across the EU ) while being fed jingoistic and xenophobic stuff about the nasty French and fishing!
If GB was still in the EU, Euro tyranny may have led to a big change in public opinion about covidianism here by association with general Euro crap.. Outside it, you are right, nobody can add up 2+2 to realise what is going on.
The French have been on the streets for years. Nothing ever happens. And now they have to show their Vaxx pass to go into a cafe, or to get on a train. If they didn’t like Macron they’d have got rid of him by now.
Lockdowns are not a” failure ” the are, like pointless, health- damaging masks a deliberate strategy of population manipulation and control, psychological warfare and targeted economic damage in line the the openly stated objectives of the WEF ‘Great Reset’ being followed by world Governments , especially the Globalist Johnson, Canada, Australia, the US and New Zealand ( Five Eyes Partners of course).
They have already helped achieve a large transfer of wealth from the middle-class to the rich which has occurred during this early stage of the “Agenda 2030 ” . While small businesses in the UK have been forced to close , Gates and his friends have been enriching themselves still further. However, this is not yet sufficient for their purpose of putting control of all the world’s wealth into personal or Corporate hands.
Justification for lockdowns has been bogus, with zero medical evidence of their value and massive evidence of the economic, personal and psychological hardship they have deliberate caused to a population being softened -up for much worse by the Cultural Marxist, Globalist Extremists running the show at Sage and Imperial College – all so enthusiastically endorsed by Johnson.
All of this is blindly supported by a sold-out Mass Media, busy taking $314 million from Gates globally to advance his “World Health Agenda” and censored by Ofcom in the UK to prevent criticism of the 24/7 propaganda “narrative”
There has never been a cost benefit analysis of Lockdowns for the obvious reason that there are no benefits – just heavy losses for the economy, ruined individuals and closed businesses.
Lockdowns have never had anything to do with combatting the spread of the man made Sars Covid -2 virus 9- now being spread further by the “shedding” of spike proteins by the millions of vaccinated than by personal contact.
Spot on, but Im afraid your train of thought is lost on most of the ‘sceptics’ that frequent this site. Lockdowns, and all the other control measures, are serving the very purpose they were designed for – and its nothing to do with protecting public health.
Yes indeed – it seems blatantly obvious to me!
I wonder if the ‘sceptics’ on this site can decipher this?
Many would see the mask on Liberty as a very necessary precaution.
Interestingly, there exists an ‘epidemic’ study by Fauci and others done in 2008 in which he concludes that mask wearing in the devastating 1918 Flu epidemic led to the development of bacterial pneumonia (following on from the virus) in the wearer, which was the actual cause of the vast majority of deaths.
That must explain why he has been such a keen advocate of their use in every possible situation from the outset!
Absolutely, I read also that the original viral outbreak was enhanced by hundreds of thousands of soldiers getting mandated injections……
I think the likeliest reason for the 1918 death toll is that influenza had been absent for decades, and only the old had resistance. Hence the high susceptibility of the young. Influenza had probably been pushed out of the way by a coronavirus, in the same way it has been again right now.
You are making things up. Influenza wasnt ‘absent for decades’ prior to 1918 (see link) or 2020. In 2014/15 flu killed 25,000 in England. In 2017/18 flu killed 22,000 in England. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374803/
I read your link:
Since 1900, influenza as a distinct disease category has been included in mortality statistics. It should not be assumed, however, that all deaths attributed to influenza in historical or contemporary mortality records were associated with influenza virus infection. Single-cause mortality tables were tabulated on the basis of information that appeared on death certificates. It was only in the early 1930s that influenza’s viral etiology was first determined.8 Even afterwards, and for most of the 20th century, influenza continued to be reported on death certificates despite the absence of laboratory confirmation of influenza virus infection.
The ‘Russian flu’ of the late 19th century is now thought to have been caused by the OC-43 coronavirus, which is still around in a less harmful form. It wasn’t until 1918 that it was actually possible to identify different viruses, and it was just assumed that influenza viruses had been prevalent prior to that.
Having seen the way influenza has simply disappeared in the last couple of years, being replaced by the SARS-2 coronavirus, there seems to me to be a good case for assuming that it had been similarly pushed aside for decades by the OC-43 coronavirus of 1889. Thirty years without exposure to influenza viruses in 1918 would have fitted in with the damage done to the younger generation by the 1918 influenza.
There is no evidenc flu disappeared prior to 1918 or 2020. Flu never disappeared last year. It was just given a new name.
Fauci identified bacterial pneumonia as a principal cause of death following on from the virus and attributed that to the dangers of wearing masks and incubating pathogenic bacteria – that is the point.
Yes. I wouldn’t dispute that for a second.
It’s the peculiar aggression of that 1918 influenza virus to the young which has always puzzled me. I know there are theories about troop movements and cytokine storms. But having seen the way influenza has gone so suddenly dormant in the last two years, then a lack of circulating influenza in the thirty years prior to 1918 seems a simpler explanation..
Consider the statement by the US CDC -( (now withdrawing the PCR test – but only at the end of 2022) that the Drosten PCR test (or any PCR test) cannot distinguish between the Flu and Covid ( or even identify any live virus).
So how convenient that ‘flu’ was ‘dormant’ to allow Covid to flourish – sustained by manic PCR testing !
Flu deaths always go up an down annually. One good year will usually be followed by a bad year as it takes out all those vulnerable people who just about got through the previous year. What it has never done is vanish to be ‘replaced’ by something else with exactly the same symptoms.
The downvotes suggest not. Many sadly still can’t see that the whole of the media is tight controlled and the owners are part of the group of people deliberately destroying society.
I for one don’t accept that as I have been switched on to the fact that this is merely a tool being used for a completely different agenda involving the ‘great reset’ (net zero, covid zero etc). If a fairly lowly educated pleb like myself can see it, I am sure lots of others can too.
Like most, I was initially taken in by it all but after a few weeks I started to question it and started watching and listening to a lot of the alternative views held by qualified people not on the gov payroll. I am still both amazed and disappointed at the gullibility of the public in general to the constant propaganda. I have refused to wear a mask since the beginning of summer 2020 and see it as my duty to resist this insanity in whatever small ways I can.
That nails it.👍
How on earth does he know that? Doesn’t he understand unfalsifiable hypotheses? As in, “I would have been worse off if I hadn’t had the vaccine.” As an infectious diseases expert, he must be aware the ONS stats show there was nothing unusual about 2020. Smells like another academic whitewash.
This fusion of captured academia and media are a manifestation of controlled opposition – and they are not very good at hiding it.
Yes a mild whitewash – to convince and persuade he mildly sceptic and stop them waking up – hence on here!
His comment on the GBD alone places him on the side of the Reset Globalists and fully on board with their ‘narrative’ .
Meanwhile we await the the massive tsunami of building vaccine damage – short, middle and long term – which they are now working overtime to suppress, disguise and explain away.
They wanted to sterilise and murder vast swathes of the population – but not this soon. This is where it went wrong. This is why different ‘vaccine’ batch numbers have different levels of toxicity. Its a vast experiment. They are testing different serums – but they want the desired outcome to be many years down the road because then it is less likely to be linked to the bioweapon. Look what happened in Russia after these people took contol, and look now to see who is behind the bioweapon extermination program.
The target date is 2030 don’t forget.
In the war to impose Global Marxist Corporatist Dictatorship “The end justifies the means” .( Any means – the dead are never counted.)
Re vaccine damage – surely, in the fullness of time, it will become so widespread it will become obvious. For example, sickly babies being born, people unable to conceive. You can explain away the elderly popping off, but it’s a bit more difficult to continually excuse sudden death in the young and very young, or a massive drop in the birth rate. I would put it on a par with certain hospitals in the UK that have had large amounts of deaths during and shortly after childbirth due to longstanding poor practice. It is only when a penny finally drops with someone that they look back and realise strange deaths have been actually going on for years.
Of course, there is also the possibility that they will try and blame it all on covid, which is why it is so important there is an unvaccinated control group.
Plausible Deniability and Temporal displacement from poison to disease/death. They were counting on that.
Also a captured media/news/regulatory and government apparatus means they have all the levers to control information.
They are confident they will win WW3.
I think we can turn it if we keep talking, protesting, resisting and they keep pushing.
I give it 5 more years and they lose.
They’ve already explained it away. Missed cancers, untreated strokes, lack of GP appointments – just the sad effects of lockdowns, but worth it, or we would have all died of Covid anyway.
Yep! Straight from their play book!
As Hitler said” How fortunate for politicians that the people do not think”!
Yes unfalsifiable hypotheses, the government must spend many hours making up a list of them to wheel out when they are in a corner. The “I would have been worse off if I hadn’t had the vaccine” one is so good that it has now entered general polite conversation with pro jabbers. Could someone on here come up with a good riposte to that one? Saying just “how do you know that?”and nothing more sounds lame. I suppose you could say “that is just an unfalsifiable hypothesis”…..
Anyway thank you 8bit for the phrase “unfalsifiable hypothesis”
Just ask them to supply evidence of the statement “I would have been worse off”, being verifiably true.
If I write that, my correspondent who is a Cambridge English graduate will indeed, going on past form, provide evidence by saying there are so many more people hospitalised/dead who are unvaccinated than vaccinated and then a lot of statistics to back that up (German and UK ones as he lives in Germany). He may also reel off further unfalsifiable hypotheses as evidence that he would have been worse off without the jabs. I suppose I could use your riposte multiple times to wear him down or I could throw in a few unfalsifiable hypotheses of my own ….
Just show him evidence of deaths being falsely attributed to covid. Lost of it around.
Cambridge is not what it was – especially in the Ruined Humanities infected as they are with the Rampant Marxist Feminist Greeny BS mutant virus ( (wo)man made !).
I was reading a comment (elsewhere) the other day where the writer was saying he was just recovering from omicron and it wasn’t too bad. But he was jolly glad he had recently had his 3rd jab…its just so stupid, isn’t it? It’s a bit like saying your car has been to the garage 3 times for the same fault. You are severely out of pocket and the mechanics can’t find the fault, so the car is still in exactly the same condition, but you are really pleased you took it there for them to achieve absolutely nothing! It just makes no sense at all.
I use a different argument: you can prevent 99.7% of the time death from covid if you cut off your arm. So it means cutting off your hand works. Or just a good old correlation does not imply causation.
Yes, been confronted by this one- had to walk out as it was OH’s relative.
A better reply probably is:
HahahahaaaHAHAaaaahaaaahaHAAA!
Woolhouse has like many scientists in this debacle, only been consistent by his inconsistency. I remember him on BBC Radio shortbread our supine Scottish Radio 4 equivalent, saying that lockdowns don’t work. However when asked if we should be in a separate Scottish lockdown as England unlocked. He sat on the fence. The Scottish government has relied on public health behaviourists and largely ignored life scientists like Woolhouse. He has been pretty silent about that.
My hunch is that he sees a retirement fund opportunity through his book and has to ride both horses. His attempt to traduce the Great Barrington declaration authors is a cynical marketing ploy. He knows fine well, that they put a general recommendation of focused protection for the aged and immuno -compromised, as he has very late to the party. It was up to policy makers to craft the policies. The fact is that he never spoke out and we can see the fence sitting as nothing more than protection for his big book splash. I hope Gupta, Kuldorf and Bhattarchaya, the real critics of this insane policy who unlike the odious, toadying Woolhouse put forward strong science and strident policies, not woolly objections, will put their story into print.
I really don’t know how the human race survived so long before all of the ‘epidemioligists’, in particular the ‘modellers’ came along
I don’t know how we’ve survived the last hundred years of “democracy” constantly being sent to our death by politicians.
Not even “sent” now …they come to you!
No and wouldn’t we be in a mess now without them.😃
Summarized in one word, Communism. Public health is never about public health, it’s politics.
Gove is a lying twat?
Who knew?
Lockdowns make complete sense when you realise it was never about health, or a virus. The real agenda, progressing at pace, is the Great Reset, otherwise known as a totalitarian dictatorship. This article by Iain Davis is a very chilling must-read for anyone who wants to know what is really going on, and our Government’s nefarious role in this global plan.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/the-uk-new-normal-dictatorship
Iain Davis puts out some outstanding work as do the whole of the UK Column team. That is a cracking though chilling article.
“In fact, this is a very discriminatory virus. “
Indeed, so where is your opposition to mass vaccination then?
This is not an article worthy of the Daily Sceptic… Let’s face it this guy is no better than Half Whitty and Unbalanced…
I disagree. This article has promoted some fine discussions on here so for that alone it was worth publishing.
Always worthwhile knowing what the enemy is up to.
So after claiming lockdowns are devastating, he goes on to laud all the other bullshit and criticises the only sane scientists on earth that suggested the correct response at Great Barrington.
So what’s the point of him?
Daily Mail report that scientists at UCL and Warwick just discovered something called “T cell immunity “.
Honestly people are so fucking dumb. Maybe a cull is just what we need.
“However, they discovered other immune system cells, called T cells, similar to those found in the immune systems of people who have recovered from Covid.
Like antibodies, T cells are created by the immune system to fend off invaders. But while antibodies stop viral cells from entering the body, T cells attack and destroy them.
It is now known that Covid antibodies can begin to wane in a matter of months both after infection and after vaccination.
However, T cells remain in the system for longer and will have snuffed out the virus before it had a chance to infect healthy cells or do any damage, experts suggested.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10360873/Mounting-evidence-suggests-people-naturally-Covid-resistant-virus-mutates.html
Dr Malone waxes lyrical on how we are destroying our T cell response to the virus by repeated jabs in exactly the same way people are ‘desensitised’ to e.g. pollen – you end up with no defence, fine if there are no serious consequences, not so much when you train your immune system to ignore a dangerous virus.
The recent Rogan podcasts with Peter McCullough and Robert Malone will do some big damage to the narrative.
Send them to all your normie sleepwalkers.
Rogan and McCullough
https://odysee.com/@jackspirko:a/rogan-mccullough:6?r=FLCV7ABLMyYTd2WkzfqcXvWiDxEyNPBp
Rogan and Malone
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10360873/Mounting-evidence-suggests-people-naturally-Covid-resistant-virus-mutates.html
The point of him? Reassurance to the mildly sceptical that everything is going to be just fine in the end!
You could say it is a disguised ‘light hit piece’ aimed at the sceptical on the sensible strategy of the GBD – a strategy dismissed out of hand by the Johnson Cabal and their Marxist Globalist Sage members and ‘Gates’ Stooge Scientific Advisers’- without so much as a comment- as they implemented their “orders from above” to the letter ( even pushing the Lockdowns Ferguson thought the British public might resist – how he overestimated them!).
As Fauci was recorded as saying a few years ago – looking at the failure of the Flu season to force total mass vaccination , you needed a Global wide virus ‘pandemic’ to get people to take all the vaxxes they wanted to trial – so convenient that one just came along on cue!
Another supposed expert on infectious diseases showing they know nothing about infectious diseases, please stop promoting his book.
Nothing about the horrors of vaccinating children with experimental gene therapy.
Please publish an article featuring Dr Robert Malone, surely being the father of mRNA delivery technology makes him qualified on the subject.
A bit of CYA by an establishment figure and former proponent of it all.
One correction: it was made possible by modern technology, zero rates/MMT and the miseducation of generations for many decades.
Has he seen the interviews with proponents of re-purposed, often out of patent, medicines that can successfully treat early stage viral infection with SARS?
Sounds like he has not or is persuaded that they don’t work by the unscrupulous in-patent drug pushers.
The “Great Ivermectin Suppression Scandal” is just waiting for a Free Press – now in vain I suspect.
Also, Hydroxychloroquine (the HCQ scandal is illuminating, but rarely gets past the ‘Trump recommended it’ part of the story). Also, budesonide, fluvoxomine, monoclonal antibodies, UV, iodine/salt and so on.
In fact, any cheap & effective treatment.
Surely even the brainwashed could see a pattern emerging – were they aware of it. . .
This is a point worth repeating ad nauseum, as it puts the lie to the claim that it’s about public health.
Drive it home, over and over.
He opposes lockdowns if they’re called lockdowns, in other words.
Woodhouse is dangerous and about as trustworthy as the Bozo.
British Heart Foundation normalising young healthy people collapsing.
All involved in making this are sick, sick individuals.
As someone who suffers with heart issues I wrote to the BHF at the start asking why they supported masks for people with heart disease.
The response was a disgustingly sycophantic rehash of the government’s own nonsense.
Absolutely disgraceful.
No “Medicine” , No Science – from now on its all Pharma profit and control politics -welcome to the Great Health Tyranny Reset ( slogan” We own Your Body”).
No Jab – No Vaxx Pass. Tied down forever.
That is sick. See my comment below.
Al the decent people have been cleared out of positions of authority in all our Institutions over the last two decades – it started with Blair of course.
Schwab has played a long game.
Fascinating. Royal Christmas lecture 2019. Most interesting section 16:30 to 28:14. Strange lecture given what was about to happen and that it contradicts the scientific orthodoxy of the time on disease control!
https://www.rigb.org/christmas-lectures/watch/2019/secrets-and-lies/how-to-get-lucky
As if on cue….
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/let-the-excuses-and-walkbacks-begin/comments
Woodhouse is a limited hangout.
Read https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/the-collins-and-fauci-attack-on-traditional-public-health_4187173.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-01-02&mktids=0aa5f3e6190e6be99f5caf363c66b119&est=h7Eb%2FWPqYPyheRiJuYNVbQ4bBEyuEZ7IFRUjWkxeou6X7vm9%2FCLVTSy3Og7UWD5m
that shares how Fauci and Collins in the USA, per emails discovered via FOI, went about destroying the Great Barrington Declaration in the USA and then in the UK working with Dominic Cummings! “Across the pond, they were joined by their close colleague, Dr. Jeremy Farrar, the head of the Wellcome Trust, one of the world’s biggest non-governmental funders of medical research. He worked with Dominic Cummings, the political strategist of UK prime minister Boris Johnson. Together, they orchestrated “an aggressive press campaign against those behind the Great Barrington Declaration and others opposed to blanket COVID-19 restrictions.”
Thanks for this – very informative – but very deeply and depressingly shocking !
Cummings! These people simply have no morality and no shame.
Another misinformation piece.
They are softening people up for the next phase. Anyone taking anything at face value is an idiot (sorry if that sounds offensive)
They are going to manipulate public opinion again. Now the vaxxed will be painted as heroes who have done the right thing and so deserve a “reward”. That will be “freedom” via the vax pass.
The non-vaxed will be sold to the majority as assorted loons and conspiracy nuts who shouldn’t be allowed to hold everyone else to ransom.
The health “data” will of course be manipulated to suit.
The cov19 may well dwindle from news but be supplanted by another illness, the vaxxed will get another jab and carry on while the unvaxxed fall further behind.
Obviously this push has been ongoing for a few months but it’s getting greater impetus everywhere now. NZ and Aus are ahead on this and unfortunately it’s working.
15 million committed resistors. Thats a critical mass which is growing by the day. This isnt over. Not by a long shot.
In other words, he still supports ongoing extreme public health interventions that seriously impede people’s ability to live normally, run businesses, access healthcare and so on, he just doesn’t call them ‘lockdowns’.
Can someone explain to me how testing seriously impedes people’s ability to live normally, run businesses, access healthcare and so on.
New years day family gathering stalled due to relative living in care not being allowed to attend unless everybody else present took an LFT test. The state interfering in family affairs. There’s your example you stupid shill.
Come on – taking a LFT is free, painless and takes about 5 minutes. How can you describe that as seriously impeding their lives? It is not even specific for Covid. If there was a lot of flu about and there was a free, easy test available, would you not recommend the family take the test before visiting a vulnerable relative?
Why would you test yourself if you felt perfectly well? What’s the point? I can assure you, if you are coming down with flu you know about it, you don’t need to take a test. How to infantilise a population – make them think they are unable to tell when they are ill.
If you have flu you can infect people for about 24 hours before symptoms develop. So imagine such a test existed and there was a flu epidemic. Would you not use it? Or do your principles prevent you taking this free and painless step to avoid endangering your loved ones?
Why shouldn’t people be infected with a dose of ‘flu now and then? It’s good for them. You may feel a bit rotten for a few days, but it’s a little kick to your immune system, keeps it active.
“Endangering your loved ones” – blackmail by using emotion. Do you sell timeshare holiday apartments?
Do we all know perfectly healthy people ( former friends!) who sniffle in winter and rush to be tested – half a dozen / a dozen times?
I cannot longer even speak to them – they are largely responsible for where we are.
All these tests are either fraudulent or totally unreliable.
Go fuck yourself 77 times.
No, I would not. First, it’s not free but enormously expensive and the government uses some of our money to pay for it. And then, it’s useless except for publishing case statistics: A negative test result now doesn’t mean anything for the situation in five minutes. And neither does a positive test result. Plus, the positive result doesn’t imply that people are infectious or will become sick. It’s just a somewhat useful diagnostic aid for determining the cause of an illness manfesting itself in form of symptoms.
LFTs aren’t ‘free’ – I don’t think China just hands them over without money changing bank accounts.
LFTs take about 15 minutes.
They aren’t accurate and it was recommended months ago that they shouldn’t be used because of their wild results and should be thrown in the bin.
Not to mention the pollution they create.
It is a basic insult to freedom to suspect everyone of ‘being infected’ with ‘a virus’, and ‘unhealthy’.
It is also a magician’s trick, everyone believing they need to be ‘tested’ whilst the real fraud goes on – people are being trussed up and having their possessions stolen.
Enslaving whole populations is evil and disgusting.
It’s the bloody testing that’s keeping this Scam going.
Absolutely and undeniably true. Drosten was a fraud and his PCR test a giant scam.
Any invasive test is an illegal assault on ones inalienable right to bodily autonomy.
Many tests are dangerous, see Abbot test/sodium acide, swab structure, swab technique.
The consequences of testing are often punitive and discrimimatory.
Testing criteria themselves have become very discriminatory.
Testing is very costly and in most cases totally useless, as the tests are neither reliable (see CDC pull because it can’t distinguish between SARS Cov 2 and 1, nor the flu), nor comparable or standardized.
That’s just of the back of my head, not sure whether your question was serious….
Any invasive test is an illegal assault on ones inalienable right to bodily autonomy.
I guess you could make the same claim about a breathalyser.
Many tests are dangerous, see Abbot test/sodium acide, swab structure, swab technique.
I had LTF/PCR tests in mind. Sticking a swab up your nose is not dangerous!
The consequences of testing are often punitive and discrimimatory.
That’s a matter of using the tests properly – it is not a criticism of the tests themselves. E.g. asking people to test themselves before coming to a mutual event is neither punitive nor discriminatory.
Testing criteria themselves have become very discriminatory.
I don’t understand this one. Give me an example.
Testing is very costly and in most cases totally useless,.
To the user a LFT is, of course, free. Private enterprise PCR tests have come down to about £40 – so presumably they cost the NHS much less.
as the tests are neither reliable (see CDC pull because it can’t distinguish between SARS Cov 2 and 1, nor the flu), nor comparable or standardized
That is a long debate. However, let’s scotch the myth about the CDC. It pulled the current PCR test because it had a cheaper one that had the potential to test for SARS Covid-2 and Flu at the same time – but the new test can still distinguish which one you have got (or both).
That’s just of the back of my head, not sure whether your question was serious….
Completely serious and, as yet, unanswered. No one has explained why taking a free, painless test that you can do in your own home and takes about 5 minutes seriously impedes your life in any way.
The tests are a fraud. The Drosten PCR test has 97% false positives – it cannot detect a live virus or infection , cannot tell the difference between Sars Cov-2 and flu and when run at 45 cycles of amplification ( rather than at recommended 25 and as revealed by FOI requests) for further distortion of results.
It is totally fraudulent and useless – except for deliberately hyping up Covid Fear and forcing compliance – its principal purpose.
It was ruled fraudulent by a Portuguese Court months ago and has now been withdrawn by the US CDC
Kerry Mullis who invented the original test dismissed its use as inappropriate and fraudulent.
Drosten never had any sample of a complete live virus to work with ( is there one?)- he used computer models and codes provided by the Chinese – it is a massive scam and legal proceedings are being prepared against him internationally for falsifying his qualifications and faking his thesis – look it up!
Testing is oppression masquerading as ‘science’. That is the essence of this Covidian tyranny. It has made ordinary folk into paranoid lunatics and fucked up society.
There is simply so much that is obvious that he doesn’t understand that I think we must be totally wasting our time.
He has seemed OK before. Is he playing devil’s advocate or does he really want to know the detailed reasons we reject testing?
Thanks. I think I need to be clearer about the question I am asking which is how testing seriously impedes people’s ability to live normally. I am not asking if the tests are accurate. I think they are – but that is a long and different debate. I am asking, how does a process which is free, harmless, takes 5 minutes and is very easy to do seriously impede your life? Even if the tests were completely useless, and it was just a matter of etiquette, it doesn’t seem to be much of a burden.
5 minutes is 1/20 of an hour, hence, doing twenty tests equals an hour of life irretrievably lost. As there’s no inherent upper limit on the number of tests which will be required of someone, the amount of lifetime lost with doing them has no inherent upper limit, either.
Procuring a test won’t usually be possible in 5 minutes.
Government pouring taxpayer money in this emphatically means it’s not free, both because of the direct cost of the tests and because the money could otherwise have been used for something more sensible.
At current levels testing is costing in the region of £240 million.
Mabye true (I’m not implying anything, I just don’t know) but misses the point: It was claimed that LFTs were free for the population. But that’s not true because the government paid for them using money taken from the population.
My point was it is free for the user at the point of deciding whether to be tested.
If you are concerned about the cost to the taxpayer, it appears to be negligible. If it costs £240 million (per year?) then that is of course about £3 a person. Another way of looking at it is that a privately purchased LFT is between £4 and £5. The government will get them a lot cheaper than that when buying several million and there will be no profit margin or VAT. So the cost to the taxpayer is going to be £1 or £2 a test.
It seems most people are fine with testing, on the surface it seems innocuous. It is however guidance not compulsory, yet as with masks and all other restrictions is being presented as de facto compulsory by gov propaganda. This raises fear levels tremendously for no good reason. Testing is intrusive and endless and has become obsessive for many people. It has no effect in tackling an innocuous disease but prolongs the endless tyranny we’re living in. Like masks it has been imposed as a new normal but it is manipulative to the core. We are no nearer normal normalcy but farther away! Nobody should have to constantly ‘prove’ they don’t have a cold. This is my take, I think you have the others’ views! For the record, I know it can be crap getting abusive responses on DS, but let’s all try and stick together and keep our sanity 😁
Of course testing results become statistics manipulated by gov to keep the tyranny going. Covid Ourobouros.
I think I understand now. If you believe that
a) the tests don’t work
or
b) Covid is nothing to worry about for anyone
Then getting tested is a pain because you might get a positive result and have to isolate for no reason.
I don’t believe a) or b) but that is a very long discussion.
Let me explain my position through an example.
I belong to a very active amateur drama group. We continue to meet regularly and enjoy ourselves with the one mutually agreed rule that we regularly test ourselves. We ask the same of our audiences. This allows life to continue as normal and everyone to relax and enjoy it. Even if the whole testing business is an illusion, the fact is that this is what most people believe and without the rule the group would stop its activities.
One longstanding and active member refuses to get tested (he doesn’t say why) and thus cuts himself off from the society (He also refused to attend his own goddaughter’s wedding for the same reason). No doubt he is bravely standing by his principles as he sees them, I know him to be a person of great integrity, but he is making his life that bit less rich.
No. It is the mania and the government who have made his life less rich, with you as a willing accomplice (collaborator).
Obviously you have different beliefs from me about the utility and objective of tests. The fact remains that he has it in his power to lead what is close to a normal life and has chosen not to. It is a curious inversion of the narrative that sceptics go on leading full normal lives while people like me are cowering in our houses or behind masks fooled by government and big pharma.
“which is free”
It is costing huge amounts which aren’t available to spend elsewhere.
“harmless”
A friend had a serious nosebleed after the invasive procedure and others have reported that it is often uncomfortable and sometimes actually painful.I’ve read plausible reports of worse things than nosebleeds happening. And it is simply dishonest to pretend that the test involves just “sticking a swab up your nose”: the invasion of your head is far greater than that.
“takes 5 minutes” Each time.
“seriously impede your life”. If you test positive, aren’t you meant to seriously restrict your behaviour?
“Even if the tests were completely useless, and it was just a matter of etiquette, it doesn’t seem to be much of a burden.”
Doesn’t the same apply to the Hitler salute?
I’ve never been tested, never worn a mask, never been jabbed because I refuse to go along with any of the policies that have very clearly never been about the trivial threat posed by this virus.
Every time someone gets a ‘positive’ from an LFT it ruins their day, their outing, their visit to someone. They feel as if they are ‘infectious’ and must then isolate at home for 10 days, and to go and maybe get a ‘more accurate’ PCR test – and of course, if that comes out as a ‘positive’, that’s another statistic (or two if you count the LFT as well) added to ‘the cases’.
Even if ‘true’, a ‘positive’ does not mean that person is infectious or ill. But it can certainly have a blow psychologically, cause inconvenience, arguments at home, and so on.
The main thing is, people are testing themselves for ‘a disease’ that really matters not one jot. How many people are really in hospital because of ‘Covid’? No-one knows, the hospitals won’t let us in to have a look round for ourselves.
I do not know of anyone who has had Covid, let alone gone to hospital or died from it – everyone in our village and local towns seems to still be there – no-one missing. Where is this ‘pandemic’?
Supermarkets open, football matches ongoing, public trnasport running – in a pandemic…
How would you like to wait another 15 minutes at a bus stop because the bus driver was waiting for LFT results? Or another 15 minutes for a train, or 15 minutes for this or that for almost everything? How would you like to have to wake up 15 minutes earlier every work day so you could test yourself to see if you were ‘healthy’ to be allowed to go to work?
I guess it does depend on whether you think the tests work and are testing for a real condition with a real risk. You live a remarkably sheltered life. I seem to be surrounded by a tsunami of cases.
200 Euros for a PCR in Finland. It’s a scam. The floggers of these tests know their victims have no choice but to pay up.
Look up Faisal Shoukat and his RT Diagnostics ‘company’ (Halifax, UK) to see one example of a PCR-service flogging scammer.
The tests are also designed to humiliate people, by having them lean back and letting ‘a nurse’ shove a cotton bud up their nostrils. Bend over for The State. Show yourself to be subservient. Raped by The State, that is what this is all about – your dignity, and money taken from you.
Prof Woodhouse is closer to the kingdom than his peers. But the blunt truth is, had we done nothing, 2020 would have been a normal year. I’m hard-pressed to find anyone with pull who does not argue within the paradigm.
Trouble is, despite massive evidence of the failures and harms, nothing is falsifying the legitimacy of the same old narrative and approach.
This is still a PCR/Media scamdemic – people must abandon the MSM – for good and simply assume all in Government are liars to make any sense of, or progress out of this nightmare they have so carefully constructed to ensnare us.
Currently people are behaving like rats in a trap!
We must retain access to MSM to judiciouusly read it against the grain or just for weather and sport. I now avoid it for any other reason.
Ahh yes ‘the weather’, from people who cannot predict weather a week from now but know exactly what the weather will be like 100 years from now – and the only way of stopping it is communism.
In my experience they can’t predict the weather an hour from now!
In lieu of a DS weather forecast, sometimes we have to rely on these things!
You beat me to it. 😀
Face coverings were worn to help stop bacterial infections, they are not perfect but do a job in cynical settings. There is not a face covering / mask in existence that stops viral spread as to do so would need no air to pass a barrier. This is not rocket science. But real science. So why have they implemented face coverings around the globe ?
Psychological warfare. Obedience priming.
What else can account for forcing people to do things that are ineffective or unnecessary?
Intimidation, alienation, psychological stress, pressure, compliance, fear stoking – you name it – just look into the eyes of the alienated masked with no mouths or ‘human contact’ – no smile or facial expression. Constant reminder of ‘sickness’ re-defining healthy people as permanently ‘ill’.
Total zomboid control.
Pure de-humanising evil…all in a paper mask
They also make you ill – which they will see as a bonus as permanent ‘illness’ and sickness paranoia is to be part of their New Normal. to feed you to the Pharma companies!
This “New Normal’ will be a joyless existence indeed – for all but the Elites!
Has such an Evil project ever before been devised for Mankind?
Lockdowns have nothing whatsoever to do with public health. They are a control technique. The world isn’t just going to reset itself. It needs a helping hand.
Here’s from France24.com:
Yep, microchipped like cattle. I reckon they’d have gone with a metal tag in the ear, but were scared their citizens weren’t quite emasculated enough for that yet.
Why did Sweden not go with a full-on lockdown like the rest of Europe? Perhaps the answer to this lies in the millions they’ve imported from the developing world over the last decade?
Pre-plandemic, the high number of bombings, grenade attacks and gang warfare incidents in Sweden were getting quite a lot of media attention. Or rather, the MSM was finding it ever harder to cover-up these incidents.
The vast majority of these millions of new people in Sweden don’t see themselves as immigrants. They believe themselves to be colonists and conquerors. As such, if Sweden’s de facto conquered puppet government attempted to enforce a lockdown on them, it would have got their hackles up.
Every f***ing medic in a tweed jacket is a moral philosopher nowadays.
The opinion that has been spread among medics – by exactly the same people at the top who have spread different opinions among larger audiences, because this is how modern propaganda works (hello Edward Bernays): see “trade journals” – is that “lockdown was only necessary for vulnerable groups”. That’s what almost every medic in the country “thinks”, even if they won’t say it in front of the
scumpatients.They think they’re real insiders for holding that opinion, several cuts above the “man and woman in the street”. But in fact they don’t see the big picture. They’ve never seen a big picture in their whole lives. They haven’t got the intelligence. All they’re interested in is money, status, and luxury holidays. I mean seriously, even if you start from their impoverished shitty little role-playing outlook, the first question you would ask if you had any intelligence (i.e. if you knew how to think for yourself) would “So why on earth was a generalised lockdown imposed?” And I can tell you, it’s not because of poor intellect on the part of administrators or low grades in moral philosophy.
Stuff your book, Woolhouse, you pompous verbose arsehole.
If this person wants to suppress the population based on the entirely misguided notion that this would halt viral transmission, he’s an enemy and not an ally. That’s he’s seeking to rebrand this in order to make it more palatable means he’s also trying to deceive the involuntary objects of the population control experiments he’d like to conduct in the near future (“responding to the next variant”).
Rule of thumb: If it gets featured in the Guardian, it should be considered evil until proven otherwise beyond reasonable doubt.
It wasn’t a failure to understand that the virus was only dangerous to the very elderly and those with obesity-related co-morbidities. They knew that from Italy and the Diamond Princess.
Gove lied; the 3rd division in Cabinet just went along with it and Johnson didn’t want to be blamed for deaths.
So they destroyed millions of lives instead.
“People over 75 are an astonishing 10,000 times more at risk than those who are under 15.”
… as people over 75 are more threatened by death! Bad statistics.
Good overall thrust – but poor analysis in this sentence, and totally inaccurate statement about the overall severity as a once in a generation catastrophe. Verifiable nonsense.
The guy is still an epidemiologist without perspective.
Woolhouse seems a bit confused at times here, stating that we should have protected the vulnerable and elderly (as stated in GBD) but also stating that GBD was a load of rubbish because it advocated protecting the vulnerable but didn’t give any firm ideas for how to protect those people. And yet I don’t see any ideas from him in this article either. I do agree that GBD was very light on details, which was always going to lead to its being somewhat dismissed, however I have heard Sunetra Gupta, Martin Kulldorff etc say that they had envisaged that those with more knowledge of the issues involved would be able to come up with a plan.
I do remember some time around the early summer in 2020, as lockdown dragged on for considerably more than 3 weeks, Woolhouse did come out and say that he (and others on SAGE etc) would never have gone along with the lockdown if they’d known it would become so perpetual. They’d only ever seen it as a very short term emergency measure.
um, isn’t Prof Woolhhouse one of those media savvy members of SAGE who we’ve heard frequently advocating for restrictions of all types over the last nearly 2 years? Bit rich isn’t it? Selling a book stating what human beings with a real conscience towards their fellow beings knew March 2020.
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Probably the best description of this oxygen thief is “c u next Tuesday.”
[2] Here is the 2nd part of the extract from Factfullness by Hans Rosling and the dangers of the Urgency Instinct.
Chapter 10 – The Urgency Instinct [Part 2]
When the sun rose over Memba the next morning, some 20 women and their youngest children were already up, waiting for the morning bus to take them to the market in Nacala to sell their goods. When they learned the bus had been cancelled, they walked down to the beach and asked the fishermen to take them by the sea route instead. The fishermen made room for everyone in their small boats, probably happy to be making the easiest money of their lives as they sailed south along the coast.
Nobody could swim and when the boats capsized in the waves, all the mothers and children and fishermen drowned.
That afternoon I headed north again, past the roadblock, to continue to investigate the strange disease. As I drove through Memba I came across a group of people lining up on the roadside dead bodies they had pulled out of the sea. I ran down to the beach but it was too late. I asked a man carrying the body of a young boy, “Why were all these children and mothers out in those fragile boats?”
“There was no bus this morning.” he said. Several minutes later I could not still barely understand what I had done. Still today I can’t forgive myself. Why did I have to say to the mayor, “You must do something”?
I couldn’t blame these tragic deaths on the fisherman. Desperate people who need to get to market of course take the boat when the city authorities for some reason block the road.
I have no way to tell you how I carried on with the work I had to do that day and in the days afterward. And I didn’t talk about this to anyone else for 35 years.
Fourteen years later, in 1995, the ministers in Kinshasa, the capital of DR Congo, heard that there was an Ebola outbreak in the city of Kitwik. They got scared. They felt they had to do something. They set up a roadblock. Again, there were unintended consequences. Feeding the people in the capital became a major problem because the rural area that had always supplied most of their processed cassava was on the other side of the disease-stricken area. The city was hungry and started buying all it could from it’s second largest food producing area. Prices skyrocketed, and guess what? A mysterious outbreak of paralyzed legs and blindness followed.
Nineteen years after that, in 2014, there was an outbreak of Ebola in the rural north of Liberia. Inexperienced people from rich countries got scared and they all came up with the same idea: a roadblock!
At the Ministry of Health, I encountered politicians of a higher quality. They were more experienced, and their experience made them cautious. Their main concern was that roadblocks would destroy the trust of the people abandoned behind them. This would have been absolutely catastrophic: Ebola outbreaks are defeated by contact tracers, who depend on people honestly disclosing everybody they have touched. These heroes were sitting in poor slum dwellings carefully interviewing people who had just lost a family member about every individual their loved one might have infected before dying. Often, of course, the person being interviewed was on that list and potentially infected. Despite the constant fear and wave after wave of rumors, there was no room for drastic, panicky action. The infection path could not be traced with brute force, just patient, calm, meticulous work. One single individually delicately leaving out information about his dead brother’s multiple lovers could cost a thousand lives.
When we are afraid and under time pressure and thinking of worst-case scenarios, we tend to make really stupid decisions. Our ability to think analytically can be overwhelmed my an urge to make quick decisions and take immediate action.
Back in Nacala in 1981, I spent several days carefully investigating the disease but less than a minute thinking about the consequences of closing the road. Urgency, fear and a single-minded focus on the risks of a pandemic shut down my ability to think things through. In the rush to do something, I did something terrible.
[1] Here is an extract from Factfullness by Hans Rosling and the dangers of the Urgency Instinct. It was written before the current hysteria but give examples of why ‘Lockdowns’ are bad.
Chapter 10 – The Urgency Instinct [Part 1]
“If it’s not contagious, then why did you evacuate your children and wife?” asked the mayor of Nacala, eyeing me from a safe distance behind his desk. Out the window, a breathtaking sun was setting over Nacala district and its population of hundreds of thousands of extremely poor people, served by just one doctor – me.
Earlier in the day I had arrived back in the city from a poor coastal area in the north named Memba. There I had spent two days using my hands to diagnose hundreds of patients with a terrible, unexplained disease that had completely paralyzed their legs within minutes of onset and, in severe cases, made them blind. And the mayor was right; I wasn’t 100% sure it was not contagious. I hadn’t slept the previous night but had stayed up, pouring over my medical textbook, until I had finally concluded that the symptoms I was seeing had not been described before. I’d guessed this was some kind of poison rather than anything infectious, but I couldn’t be sure, and I had asked my wife to take our young children and leave the district.
Before I could figure out what to say, the mayor said, “If you think it could be contagious, I must do something. To avoid a catastrophe, I must stop the disease from reaching the city.”
The worst-case scenario had already unfolded in the mayor’s mind, and immediately spread to mine.
The mayor was a man of action. He stood up and said, “Should I tell the military to set up a roadblock and stop the buses from the north?”
“Yes,” I said. “I think it’s a good idea. You have to do something.”
The mayor disappeared to make some calls.
People like this scare the hell out of me. Dr John Ioannidis spelled out the infection fatality rate nearly two years ago. Nothing has changed.
Non pharmacological interventions like masks, school and business closures, lockdowns have been one big disaster. And yet educated people like this man simply turn their back on the truth, the science. Anyone know who funds his research?
He sounds like an irrational twat.