We’re publishing a guest post today by former Google software engineer Mike Hearn about the shortcomings of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine’s alarmist Omicron modelling which has spooked the Government.
Today the Telegraph reported that:
Experts from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) predict that a wave of infection caused by Omicron – if no additional restrictions are introduced – could lead to hospital admissions being around twice as high as the previous peak seen in January 2021.
Dr Rosanna Barnard, from LSHTM’s Centre for the Mathematical Modelling of Infectious Diseases, who co-led the research, said the modellers’ most pessimistic scenario suggests that “we may have to endure more stringent restrictions to ensure the NHS is not overwhelmed”.
As we’ve come to expect from LSHTM and epidemiology in general, the model forming the basis for this ‘expert’ claim is unscientific and contains severe problems, making its predictions worthless. Equally expected, the press ignores these issues and indeed gives the impression that they haven’t actually read the underlying paper at all.
The ‘paper’ was uploaded an hour ago as of writing, but I put the word paper in quotes because not only is this document not peer reviewed in any way, it’s not even a single document. Instead, it’s a file that claims it will be continually updated, yet which has no version numbers. This might make it tricky to talk about, as by the time you read this it’s possible the document will have changed. Fortunately, they’re uploading files via GitHub, meaning we can follow any future revisions that are uploaded here.
Errors
The first shortcoming of the ‘paper’ becomes apparent on page 1:
Due to a lack of data, we assume Omicron has the same severity as Delta.
In reality, there is data and so far it indicates that Omicron is much milder than Delta:
Early data from the Steve Biko and Tshwane District Hospital Complex in South Africa’s capital Pretoria, which is at the centre of the outbreak, showed that on December 2nd only nine of the 42 patients on the Covid ward, all of whom were unvaccinated, were being treated for the virus and were in need of oxygen. The remainder of the patients had tested positive but were asymptomatic and being treated for other conditions.
The pattern of milder disease in Pretoria is corroborated by data for the whole of Gauteng province. Eight per cent of Covid-positive hospital patients are being treated in intensive care units, down from 23% throughout the Delta wave, and just 2% are on ventilators, down from 11%.
Financial Times, December 7th
The LSHTM document claims to be accurate as of today, but just ignores the data available so far and replaces it with an assumption; one that lets them argue for more restrictions.
What kind of restrictions? The LSHTM modellers are big fans of mask wearing:
All scenarios considered assume a 7.5% reduction in transmission following the introduction of limited mask-wearing measures by the U.K. Government on November 30th 2021, which we assume lasts until April 30th 2022. This is in keeping with our previous estimates for the impact of increased mask-wearing on transmission.
I was curious how they arrived at this number given the abundant evidence that mask mandates have no impact at all (example one, example two). But no such luck – a reference at the end of the above paragraph points to this document, which doesn’t contain the word “mask” anywhere and “7.5%” likewise cannot be found. I wondered if maybe this was a typo but the claim that the relevant reference supports mask wearing appears several times and the word “mask” isn’t mentioned in references before or after either. (Correction: see below).
There are many other assumptions of dubious validity in this paper. I don’t have time today to try and list all of them, although maybe someone else wants to have a go. A few that jumped out on a quick read through are:
- An assumption that S gene drop-outs, i.e. cases where a PCR test doesn’t detect the spike protein gene at all, are always Omicron. That doesn’t follow logically given the very high number of mutations and given that theoretically PCR testing is very precise, meaning a missing S gene should be interpreted as “not Covid”. Of course, in reality – as is by now well known – PCR results are routinely presented in a have-cake-and-eat-it way, in which they’re claimed to be both highly precise but also capable of detecting viruses with near arbitrary levels of mutation, depending on what argument the user wishes to support.
- “We use the relationship between mean neutralisation titre and protective efficacy from Khoury et al. (7) to arrive at assumptions for vaccine efficacy against infection with Omicron” – The cited paper was published in May and has nothing to say on the topic of vaccine effectiveness against Omicron, which is advertised as being heavily mutated. Despite not citing any actual measured data on real-world vaccine effectiveness, the modelling team proceeds to make arguments for widespread boosting with a vaccine targeted at the original 2019 Wuhan version of SARS-CoV-2.
- They make scenarios that vary based on unmeasurable variables like “rate of introduction of Omicron”, making their predictions effectively unfalsifiable. Regardless of what happens, they can claim that they projected a scenario that anticipated it, and because such a rate is unknowable, nobody can prove otherwise. Predictions have to be falsifiable to be scientific, but these are not.
- Their conclusion says “These results suggest that the introduction of the Omicron B.1.1.529 variant in England will lead to a substantial increase in SARS-CoV-2 transmission” even though earlier in the ‘paper’ they say they assume anywhere between a 5%-10% lower transmissibility than Delta to 30%-50% higher (page 7), or in other words, they have no idea what the underlying difference in transmissibility is – and that’s assuming this is actually something that can be summed up in a single number to begin with.
Analysis
If you’re new to adversarial reviews of epidemiology papers some of the above points may seem nit-picky, or even made in bad faith. Take the problem of the citation error – does it really matter? Surely, it’s just some sort of obscure copy/paste error or typo?. Unfortunately, we cannot simply overlook such failures. (Correction: See below).
The reality is that academic output, especially in anything that involves statistical modelling, frequently turns out to not merely be unreliable but leaves the reader with the impression that the authors must have started with a desired conclusion and then worked backwards to try and find sciencey-sounding points to support it. Inconvenient data is claimed not to exist, convenient data is cherry picked, and where no convenient data can be found it’s just conjured into existence. Claims are made and cited but the citations don’t contain supporting evidence, or turn out to be just more assumptions. Every possible outcome is modelled and all but the most alarming are discarded. The scientific method is inconsistently used, at best, and instead scientism rules the day; meanwhile, universities applaud and defend this behaviour to the bitter end. Academia is in serious trouble: huge numbers of researchers just have no standards whatsoever and there are no institutional incentives to care.
Some readers will undoubtably wonder why we’re still bothering to do this kind of analysis given that there’s nothing really new here. On the Daily Sceptic alone we’ve covered these sorts of errors here, here, here, here, here and here – and that’s not even a comprehensive list. So why bother? I think it’s worth continuing to do this kind of work for a couple of reasons:
- Many people who didn’t doubt the science last year have developed newfound doubts this year, but won’t search through the archives to read old articles.
- The continued publication of these sorts of ‘papers’ is itself useful information. It shows that academia doesn’t seem to be capable of self-improvement and despite a long run of prediction failures, nobody within the institutions cares about the collective reputation of professors. The appearance of being scientific is what matters. Actually being scientific, not so much.
Correction
In the comments below user MTF points out a mistake in the article. The citation for mask wearing goes to a website with two documents with similar names. The primary document doesn’t talk about face masks, but the second supplementary document does mention them. It in turn cites two studies, this modelling study and this observational study in Bangladesh. These citations are not strong – the Bangladeshi study has criticised for not actually being a study of mask mandates, and it’s unclear if the results are even statistically significant. The modelling study states in the abstract that “We do not find evidence that mandating mask-wearing reduces transmission”, although they conclude that mask wearing itself (i.e. for reasons other than mandates) can reduce transmission. However, they find a different numbers to the cited 7.5%, which appears to come from the Bangladeshi study. This paper doesn’t seem to actually provide support for the cited claim, which is that the 7.5% reduction will come from the “introduce of limited mask wearing measures by the U.K. government”, i.e., mask mandates.
Nonetheless, my assertion that the cited document didn’t provide any support for the 7.5% mask figure was wrong – that’s embarrassing. In the software engineering world it’s become typical to handle publicly visible errors by writing a ‘post-mortem’ explaining what went wrong and what will be done in future to avoid it. That seems like a good practice to use for these articles too.
Firstly, what went wrong:
- Expectation bias. (The following paragraph appeared in the original article in a different place). The phenomenon of apparently random or outright deceptive citations is one I’ve written about previously. This problem is astoundingly widespread in academia. Most people will assume that a numerical claim by researchers that has a citation must have at least some level of truth to it, but in fact, meta-scientific study has indicated the error rate in citations is as high as 25%. A full quarter of scientific claims pointing to ‘evidence’ turn out when checked to be citing something that doesn’t support their point! This error rate feels roughly in line with my own experiences (not in all fields though!), and that’s why it’s always worth verifying citations for dubious claims.
In this case the prior evidence that mask mandates have no effect is very strong, and citations that don’t seem to support the cited claim are something I keep encountering in the health literature, so it seemed like a continuation of the pattern. - Failure to check for multiple kinds of problem. The citation is of a document titled “Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies. LSHTM: autumn and winter scenarios 2021 to 2022”. The document with this title indeed contains no mention of masks, but the second document with a similar title does. I checked for typos in the reference numbers, but not ambiguity in the cited document, partly because I expected the correct document to be a dedicated study. In the event the citation is a citation-of-a-citation instead of a direct link to the actual papers they’re relying on.
- Insufficiently adversarial review. This is the first time (that we know of) that an article I’ve written contains a factual error. It is partly a consequence of my articles not being reviewed by other Daily Sceptic writers as carefully as they once were.
For my future articles here I’ll adopt the following new procedures:
- 48 hour publication delay. Potential problems often spring to mind after the first draft of an article is written and sent to others for review. In this case by the time I’d gone for a walk and done some shopping I was already developing doubts about this claim, and wondering if maybe the cited paper talked about masks under the term “face coverings” or in another way that I hadn’t noticed (as I didn’t read the full thing, just searched it to try and find the supporting evidence). Normally my articles are in a pending state for much longer than this one was, which went live almost immediately. An enforced waiting period gives time for conscious and sub-conscious reflection, and mostly what I write here isn’t time sensitive anyway – although this publication delay will only apply to me.
- Increasing the pool of reviewers. Although my articles are guest posts and thus are reviewed, most changes are only for house style. Clearly we could benefit from more aggressive peer review. Ideally I’d like MTF to review my articles pre-publication in future as he/she consistently finds the weaknesses in them before anyone else. Of course he/she may very justifiably not wish to volunteer for this sort of thing. If anyone else would like to help with this, please get in touch.
- Verification of apparently mis-linked citations with authors. In cases where a citation looks mis-directed I’ll ask the authors for a clarification or correction in future. I stopped doing this at some point because when asking about apparent problems with papers, the results have often been poor or non-existent, and in this case we still seem to have a citation that actually argues against the point being made re: mandates vs non-mandated wearing. Nonetheless, a citation that talks about something without supporting the point is different to one that doesn’t mention the point at all and the latter are more likely to either be errors in authorship or errors in detection.


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An idle thought….If a research team produced a model forecasting X deaths and subsequently fewer than X/2 deaths actually occurred, suppose that a research team member was then selected at random and fed to the lions. Would that concentrate people’s minds?
From another DS article:
Professor Galbraith who observed in relation to economic matters “there are two kinds of forecasters – those who don’t know; and those who don’t know they don’t know”
Very honest and candid discussion by the author about his mistakes in the original article – does him great credit.
In my own published works (mainly on history, but based heavily on the scientific method) I draft, think about it, rewrite, thank again, get opinions, rethink, re-analyse, redraft …
I’d hate to have to get something out as quickly as the author here and Will Jones do – it would be full of errors.
Incidentally, my propensity to write, rewrite, rethink, re-analyse … is one of the main reasons I have so much material in actuality ready for publication but still awaiting going anywhere.
Paralysis by analysis. Congratulations to people like Mike Hearn and Will Jones having te courage to publish and take what comes.
Gosh, the powers that be skewing the ‘data’ available to fit the Narrative? Who would believe that? B’stards!
The continuous banning, suppression, and censorship of people attempting to publish, discuss their covid findings is more than disturbing. Fortunately, we have a number of outlets to still up and running. Dr. Peter McCullough interviewed all over the place. Watch Del Bigtree’s Highwire on every Thursday evening at 7 pm Uk time, read Robert Kennedy’s CHD, a daily newsletter online, Steve Kirsch on Substack. If you can find Catherine Austin Fitts, well worth a listen, same for Dr Tess Lawrie. America’s FLCCC providing ivermectin via telemedicine. Dr Pierre Kory discusses all his findings on covid treatment in today’s Dr Mercola online site. Have a look at the cdc VAERS weekly report. If that doesn’t convince you there is a problem with experimental biologicals, nothing will. Finally, simply look around you. Know anyone with an adverse event post vaxx? Heart, long, blood, cancer, neurological, musculoskeletal problem? I know at least a dozen.
Oh look the Imperial College again. Well they have to justify the donations from the B&M Gates Foundation.
Maybe we should find out if they ever got a forecast right given their abysmal record
Oh dear. Science? What science? And as for learning from one’s mistakes… clearly it hasn’t happened. A small point about masks (again). As far as I am aware none of the “trials” have confined themselves to masks that might actually filter viruses but include every sort of rubbish mask from the thin paper ones to home made cloth versions. Also mask wearing appears to include folk who wear them round their necks, or with their noses poking out over the top. I just wish someone would do a proper trial of PPF2 masks, and only PPF2 masks. Garbage in, garbage out.
Meanwhile why are various countries on a red list? Omicron had escaped long before.
And the number who have died from the Omicron variant is….
Sorry, forgot. It’s worse to have a case of Omicron, than die from it.
There is an ivermectin panic on the big tech and MSM right now. Massive articles from MSM on Ivermectin trying to push a danger narrative and also negative press on Americans Frontline Dr’s, again, to keep the Covid narrative alive. Just go to the Goog and type ivermectin then look at all the panic news articles. We are over the target. Big-Pharma is panicking. This medicine has been widely used by humans without any problems for 40 years. It’s inventor won a Nobel Prize after 20 years of successful use and after 100 million people were cured of a broad spectrum of problems without any side effects. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/vaccine-nation-forever-moderna-announces
VACCINE NATION FOREVER – MODERNA ANNOUNCES POSITIVE INTERIM PHASE 1 DATA FOR MRNA FLU VACCINE AND PROVIDES PROGRAM UPDATE (JUST DON’T LOOK UNDER THE HOOD)Moderna and BioNTech stock take investor hit: hint what do investors know that main stream media doesn’t?
https://thehighwire.com/videos/dr-aditi-bhargava-testimony/
Aditi Bhargava’s focused six minutes of testimony in the US Senate, while censored and deleted by YouTube, can be found here-
Great share, thank you.
So can anyone explain to me why these lying bastards at LSHTM are lying?
Also: “Started with a conclusion and worked backwards trying to find sciency sounding points to support it”. As I say, too much of modern “science” resembles advanced fantasising.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/introducing-dr-aditi-bhargava-phd
Dr. Aditi Bhargava is a molecular neuroendocrinologist with 33 years of research experience, who gave riveting expert testimony at U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson’s panel discussion in Washington, D.C., which included doctors and medical researchers who treat COVID-19 vaccine injuries, along with patients who have experienced adverse events due to the COVID-19 vaccine. She spoke clearly and with compelling logic regarding the benefits of natural immunity, the inability to develop herd immunity to influenza, and the mismanagement of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine clinical trials. She has now chosen to bravely speak out and risk her academic career by voicing her concerns.
Robert Malone
https://childrenshealthdefense.salsalabs.org/action-alert-hr-550-2?wvpId=68a949d0-7ad9-4d65-994b-83698cbbc22a
On November 30, H.R. 550, a federal bill passed in the U.S. House of Representatives.
The bill, “Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act of 2021,” would expand state and local health department vaccine-tracking systems to monitor the vaccination status of American citizens. States would provide the information to the federal government.
The bill may be difficult to stop as it already has bipartisan support. It passed the House with the support of 294 U.S. Representatives, including all Democrats and 80 Republicans.
H.R. 550 is now under consideration by the U.S. Senate where, if passed, it could be implemented in under 12 months.
H.R. 550 would lead to a monumental invasion of our rights as American citizens. It would set an incredibly dangerous precedent and could lead to more vaccine mandates, and more restrictions of services and healthcare for the unvaccinated.
The bill also creates a mechanism for federal, state and local governments to enforce vaccine passports and possibly no-fly lists. And it would be costly to taxpayers — it appropriates $400 million dollars to expand vaccine tracking.
Part of this money would be spent on grants and cooperative agreements to state or local governmental entities that agree to adopt the new data collection guidelines… Read more »
Wish I had time to review your work. Its excellent and you correct your mistakes. That is important. As to masks, when you look at like populations with and without mandates you see no noticeable change. The Gompers Curves look identical. Masks are not a cost-free NPI, and the trust placed in them is the most unscientific thing I have seen this whole period.
as someone who used to do non-medical modeling (like you), it is exactly what you say. You figure out your desired end point and you change variables to get it. Not is case any model using a like IFR and hospital rate as Delta makes it a joke and its publisher should be shunned by modeling community, and denied future government funding.
PFIZER… is this is what they wanted hidden for 55 years..
Go to page 30 of this 38 page PDF.. read the last 8 pages..
APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf
Wow! Yet we keep getting told the jabs are ‘safe and effective’!
Surely the obvious thing is to ask what their predictions are WITH the restrictions.
Lets face it we are having the restrictions. So we can then compare their predictions with the reality of what actually happened in the real world to assess the credibility of their modelling.
Just an idea…….though I’m sure we all have no doubt what their level of accuracy will be.
Dr McCullough interview with Brett Weinstein.
In the US the background level of myocarditis is 650 annually.
Post vax they are up to 11 thousand.
Good bookmarked discussion. New info towards the end of interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zg1j7Zquoc
https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/ from South Africa
Mike
First – I appreciate your gracious correction and I would be delighted to review your papers which are always worth reading! I am reluctant to make my e-mail address public but I think you can contact me through the site admin.
Second – I think there is some confusion over mask mandates and mask wearing in the LSHTM paper and as a result in your response. LSHTM are assuming a 7.5% reduction in transmission as a result of the limited mask mandate. If you go to the reference you will see that this is a combination of two things:
It is important to appreciate that this not meant to be a conclusion, just a justification of the assumptions. These models are not intended to be firm predictions – just explorations of what might happen given plausible assumptions.
Why don’t you just fuck off and post somewhere else and leave us alone? You’re the enemy. You’re not welcome here. You’re an apologist for satanism and lies.
I think maybe you didn’t realise I was responding to Mike writing:
Ideally I’d like MTF to review my articles pre-publication in future as he/she consistently finds the weaknesses in them before anyone else. Of course he/she may very justifiably not wish to volunteer for this sort of thing. If anyone else would like to help with this, please get in touch
to offer to review his stuff without an invitation would be extremely obnoxious.
Sorry Julian, but, whilst I don’t agree with MTF on much, he is a polite and highly informed poster who challenges our beliefs and assumptions and that is a good thing. Many of Mike Hearn’s most informative comments have arisen as a result of his discussions with MTF. MTF is not a troll and I welcome his contribution to the discussion.
Will – thanks. I suspect Julian thought I was appointing myself reviewer of Mike’s material which would be understandably upsetting.
I would love to see the calculation that gets them to 7.5% decrease in transmission. Looking at the linked Jarvis et al. paper, there is a graph that shows a decrease in the number of surveyed people wearing face masks in England from about 90% in August to about 70% on October 21st. I guess they just average and extrapolate to get to a 30% decrease as of today. So let’s just assume it is a full 3 out of 10 people that would start wearing a mask if they reinstitute mask mandates since I guess mask wearing has been near universal in England since Fall of 2020 based on their survey results. So, assuming the rate of masking is indirectly proportional to transmission and 30% increase in mask wearing results in a 7.5% decrease in transmission, then 100% mask wearing would reduce transmission by 25%. Sound about right?
Your last sentence, MTF, explains how a bookmaker works.
Interesting. I thought bookmakers just adjusted the odds so they were likely to make money but I know nothing about how they operate.
Out of Africa…
South African doctors suggest omicron Covid is milder and more contagious than delta (msn.com)
What happened with Delta, vast number of people didn’t die… Moronic is milder (like the flu) and people are not dying in vast numbers either. Still, a lot of scientists and politicians in the UK are running around like headless chickens with it.
Time to start living with Covid…
It’s nowhere near as dangerous as flu – which is a serious illness.
Every new variant will be THE WORST THREAT TO THE NHS EVER from now till the end of time.
In fact it is looking like the milder the case the variant produces, maybe not even requiring hospitalisation, where the poorly snuggle up on the sofa with a cup of lemsip, the greater the threat to the NHS.
Two pupils that contracted coronavirus die at same school within week of each other – Wales Online
Covid 19 causes fatal stroke in 15 year old?
Had they been jabbed? A lot of people will die ‘of Covid-19’ after they’ve been jabbed, I suspect.
But only flu vaccinations were given at the school and the Covid jabs were rescheduled for mid-November. It is understood that neither boy had been vaccinated.
Acting headteacher Garrett Murray has today declined to comment on the coroner’s findings or the delay in the school coronavirus vaccinations.
Hmmm?
When did they start giving flu vaccinations to the young. They dont need them according to my Doctor. Wonder if there are stats available for flu amongst the young. A regular dose of D3 would be so much better. In fact John Campbell urged people to start taking it in Feb 2020. He kept saying there should have been a massive campaign about it. Of course there is no profit in it and that’s the bottom line.
The same utter BS of not prescribing Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquin too cheap no big fat profits.
If the Bangladesh study is their justification for masks, God almighty.
http://www.argmin.net/2021/11/23/mask-rct-revisited/
In the Bangladesh Mask RCT, there were nC=163,861 individuals from 300 villages in the control group. There were nT=178,322 individuals from 300 villages in the intervention group. The main end point of the study was whether their intervention reduced the number of individuals who both reported covid-like symptoms and tested seropositive at some point during the trial. The number of such individuals appears nowhere in their paper, and one has to compute this from the data they kindly provided: There were iC=1,106 symptomatic individuals confirmed seropositive in the control group and iT=1,086 such individuals in the treatment group. The difference between the two groups was small: only 20 cases out of over 340,000 individuals over a span of 8 weeks.
My modeling predicts another year of false imprisonment, murder, child abuse, lies, fraud and corruption
I’m a scientist, albeit a chemist, but nevertheless I can only describe anyone who works for establishments such as LSHTM, including every single body that forms part of SAGE or PHE or whatever that has now become as absolute wankers.
Never, in 26 years of working in the scientific community would any colleague ever get away with such wild shithousery as what these public health idiots produce.
I’ve worked with all kinds of people in industry, from those who are excellent to those who hoof it, but even the worst have never, ever, got away with such wild nonsensical bollocks.
Its an insult to genuine scientists, that anyone who is a member of above said bodies are allowed to practice, let alone advise. It sullies our name beyond belief and I actually consider it a crime that they produce the utter shite that is destroying all our lives.
Excellent and very accurate rant.
Ditto, worked in science and engineering for 30 years, international committees, advisor, yada yada. Never in a million years would I or any of my colleagues dare to produce such utter bollocks nor would we get away with such overt fuckwittery.
The cognitive dissonance is driving me nuts.
If you look at their credentials the majority hold honorary positions in the ‘science world, have experience in the pharma industry ie selling etc, and are behavioural and data ‘scientists’.
The majority have no business advising, they’re simply not remotely competent. In addition, any model, anywhere on this earth that attempts to predicts disease pathways/progress/transmission is a load of shit. It simply cannot be done. Predicting simple chemistry, using massive quality databases is usually shit. Therefore, halfwits like Ferguson are beyond pissing in the wind
Totally agree, just need Johnson to see it now
Absolutely no chance of that without him seeing he’s wearing no clothes
What kind of future is ahead? Science and medicine will be forever discredited…how can these endeavours survive?
What happened in the Soviet Union? They’ll just reverse ferret and pretend they never approved.
Brilliant. Thanks.
Marvellous broadside! Wonderfully put.
Many thanks for your comments. As someone who has been a scientist for over 60 years I couldn’t agree more. Their initial mistake was to call wildly inaccurate mathematical modelling ‘following the science’. All they have done since then is to double down on every error.
Totally agree. I’ve done a lot of technical work for the civil nuclear industry amongst other safety critical ones. This has involved my work being subjected to different levels of sometimes stringent verification and validation. I’ve done such review work myself.
After listening to the uncritical BBC Radio 4 News at 6pm quoting the “75,000” deaths I downloaded and printed the LSHTM report and sat down in the lounge with a pencil in the lounge. My partner asked “Are you marking it?”
It’s utter bollocks (a scientific term) and just would not pass muster, particularly given the consequences of government action. The very top line “PRELIMINARY – NOT PEER REVIEWED” should prevent it being released. LSHTM are trying to surpass Imperial college and Fergusson in its totally unscientific modelling. (Sadly I did physics at IC in the 70s.)
Mike Hearn shouldn’t apologise too much for his understandably rushed response.
Ferguson’s wages are being topped nicely by Bill Gates, who’s been rolling out the pork barrel for Imperial for many years. Ferguson knows where his bread is buttered so Gates gets what he pays for. Johnson knows this but is either too weak to do anything about it or he is on board with Bill’s depopulation plan. I strongly suspect the latter.
Boris Johnson onboard with Bills depopulation plan? He is certainly not, Boris has fathered 7 children by various marriages and affairs. Adding very nicely to the population and damage to the environment and planet…
Large families are for the elite, cant let them die out
Seven or more.
The current MSM number for Boris Johnson’s children is eight.
The real number is anyone’s guess, but at least eight.
GIGO – garbage in, garbage out. From people who are just “G”.
I hate to say it and I hate to be defeatist, but we are truly fucked.
Out today at a local Garden Centre. Saw 1, yes 1 other individual with no mask.
Everywhere I look I see an almost slavish adherence to the ‘rules’. People shuffling around doing the ‘anti social distancing’ thing.
For all the talk of “I’m done with this”, I see a general population brain washed into submission.
The 60 or so MP’s who might vote against vax passes are irrelevant, when the rest of the chamber will gleefully vote it in.
Mandatory vax passports and mandatory vaccination coming our way in 2022.
I’m very, very depressed about the whole thing!!!!
Me too, My wife and I were at a Pub overlooking the sea on the Kent coast yesterday. To a man and woman, excluding ourselves, the punters dutifully put their masks on when exiting their cars and taking the less than 10m walk from the car park to the pub. The fact that there was a almost a gale blowing off the sea escaped them. God help us all if this is representative of the British public at large.
Utter madness.
The compliance with the whole shambles is unbelievable.
We are told that we are many and they are few. From what I have seen, we are in the absolute minority. People LOVE it. I don’t care what anyone says now, people lap up what the MSM feed them. Zero critical thought.
Agree, I think that there is a ‘tribe mentality’ here and that people are more scared as being thought of as tribe outsiders than of the virus.
All true, and they have the additional reward of feeling superior to those they have been told are conspirators. And they have invested hugely by taking the jabs, and wearing the masks, and criticising others.
It is a massive loss of face for them now to admit they were conned. But also, terrifying. To move to a point where you have to accept that deliberate lying is happening at the highest governmental level, and that we are being knowingly manipulated to our potential harm, is to enter a very, very frightening world.
They don’t want to go there.
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man insists on adapting the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man” George Bernard Shaw
Did they manage to eat and drink in the pub with these things over their silly faces?
Yes, but only when they took their masks down – unbelievable!
This is the manifestation of cognitive dissonance that I am truly baffled by – a mask needs to be worn to walk into a pub/restaurant (for protection against the virus), but as soon as people sit down, the virus becomes harmless? However, it’s still dangerous to sit down on a train or bus?! Are people truly this unintelligent?
Yes, thanks to the quality of scientific education provided by the state since the 1970s
You know – I feel like we’re going round in neverending circles here becasue no matter how much evidence is provided that this government and others around the world are wrong and/or their actions are completely disproportinate to the problem (or perceived problem) nothing ever seems to change the minds of these power drunk tyrnants who appear to enjoy tormenting us without end.
This is just one indivdual but I’m seeing more and more of these videos by very angry individuals – people are slowly waking up and get angry now – very angry – and frankly i can’t say as i blame them …
https://twitter.com/i/status/1469476030314385410
There is no logic to any of the restrictions because public health is not the goal. They are dividing society so people will be begging for vaccine passports, mandatory vaccination and persecution of the un-vaxxed – and that’s just phase one! I’m sorry, we have big problems and dark times lie ahead.
People are not angry enough – if so they would just ignore the restrictions – at least stop wearing the mask when everyone can choose to be exempt. I just entered Sainsbury’s, got asked by security if I needed a mask? I just told him “no thanks, I’m ok”. It’s simple. Why are people, such *******g cowards?
I agree, it’s truly frightening. If people took the trouble to look at the facts they should be outraged.
Yes, it’s entirely cowardice. But worse than that, they excuse their cowardice by kidding themselves that they’re doing it for the sake of everyone else. So it becomes self-righteousness.
There’s no way of overcoming that mindset. You will never convince anyone to abandon self-righteousness in favour of admitting cowardice.
Because they are also shitting themselves that they will get fined.
When all you legally have to do is say ‘I’m exempt’.
You need 30% or so to be mask free to encourage the rest of the ‘I’m only doing it cos everyone else is’ lot to ditch theirs. Sadly, usually, I am the only one maskless.
That’s obviously the approved Sainsburys script. I got it word for word last week. My answer the same too. At Argos I was asked if I wanted a mask and said no thanks. Then I was asked if I was exempt so said yes. Simples 😁
They cannot legally mandate the jabs as the EMA document(see below) states the harms. People must be frightened into taking the risks on themselves voluntarily.
It is a game of chicken.
Sadly, I’m sure they’ll find a way around it.
Then we the people should fight back. Just have to work out how.
There must be something in these jabs that it is vitally important to get into us.
It certainly is nothing to do with our health.
Yes, and something which is not present in the Chinese or Indian vaccines, all I think made from dead or inactivated viruses. (I can’t recall what’s in the Russian Sputnik product. It might be either type.)
How about me agreeing to take the Pfizer one if and when they release all their safety data and I’ve read through it? If that’s the year 2021+55 = 2076, I’ll be aged 123.
I think I can safely say that by age 123 I’ll be way past caring what’s in it.
Great strategy!!!
This is the scary thing. If it really were just about vax passes, it would be one injection and done, to ensure the maximum take-up of the passes. And it’s not about money, because the companies could easily charge more for these drugs, as Yeadon has pointed out. And it’s certainly not because they work.
So, yes. Why?
Is to get people into the habit of responding appropriately to when they are told to have a medical intervention?
So that down the track when they are told to have any medical intervention for what might ever be in vogue at the time they just automatically have it? some kind of psychological training type thing?
Well, Epstein was heard boasting that he would get his DNA into everyone on the planet, so lets hope its not that.
It could be some kind of tracking microdot. If they are trying to harm us, it appears to need repeated jabs to do it. Though I am worried about the reports of prion like domains in the spike, especially as there have been reports of a strange CJD type disease which appears to be new and unrecognised in New Brunswick, and which the local HA are blocking the investigation of.
This is the Canadian province which has recently blocked the unvaxxed from FOOD shops.
I can’t help but wonder whether/to what degree they are experimenting on us without our consent through injections.
Regrettably I have to agree with you.
If only the sheeple would wake up to what is happening.
The behavioural insights team needs sacking, along with ‘SAGE’ immediately.
Also a proper Minister for health who has a background in medicine..