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Fines for Attending House Gatherings Were Dished Out on Day of Downing Street Christmas Party

by Luke Perry
10 December 2021 2:47 PM

Last December, on the day that the Downing Street Christmas party took place, three women were fined for attending house gatherings in London. The Times has the story.

The Metropolitan Police has ruled out an inquiry, saying there is no evidence and that it did not retrospectively investigate Covid breaches.

Last week Ami Goto, from west London, was fined £1,100 plus court costs after Westminster magistrates’ court found that she had, without reasonable excuse, participated in a gathering in a flat in Holborn, central London, on December 18th. Ebru Sen, of Sittingbourne, Kent, was fined for being at the gathering.

In a third case, Emilia Petruta-Cristea, of Wanstead, east London, was also fined £1,100 for being part of an illegal gathering at her home. An alleged house party in Ilford, east London, was among dozens of prosecutions considered by the magistrates’ court yesterday.

Sir Hugh Orde, a former President of the Association of Chief Police Officers, said that the video of Downing Street staff, including Allegra Stratton, the Prime Minister’s spokeswoman at the time, joking about the No 10 Christmas party was “prima facie evidence” of a Covid breach and that the Met should investigate. Orde told the Times that the police would not find evidence without looking.

The Met has come under criticism for its stance. In a statement on Wednesday night it said that it had examined the video and a “significant amount of correspondence” sent to police. “Based on the absence of evidence and in line with our policy not to investigate retrospective breaches of such regulations, the Met will not commence an investigation at this time,” the force said.

Wes Streeting, the Shadow Health Secretary, said it was “simply implausible for the police to argue there was no evidence parties took place”. He said: “The police ought to be knocking on doors, taking statements and investigating people in No 10 in the way they would my constituents or anyone else in the country. They’ve got to pursue this investigation without fear or favour and treat the prime minister and his staff as they would treat anyone else. It can’t be one rule for the prime minister and another for everyone else.”

Orde, who was also chief constable of Northern Ireland, said that Dame Cressida Dick, the Met commissioner, faced a difficult decision and a hard tightrope to walk but the public perception was that ordinary people had been fined for breaches. However, he said: “You don’t do a mock interview for something that hasn’t happened.”

The Met did not rule out acting if more information emerged and said it would consider “any evidence” from an inquiry by Simon Case, the cabinet secretary. Orde said he suspected that the cabinet secretary’s inquiry would root out more evidence and that the Met would be forced to make a move.

Worth reading in full.

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captainbeefheart
captainbeefheart
3 years ago

The police are there to enforce everything the government tells them without question, no matter how barking mad these orders are.

They are the foot soldiers in this whole thing. It wouldn’t be happening without their collaboration.

One day, I hope they’ll be ashamed of what they’ve done, but most of them are too thick to realise what’s happening.

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

Many of them around the City of Westminster look as they follow a Antifa/vegan diet.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

That’s the effect of steroids, smack and coke

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

radio2 is the staple of their “news” in order to listen to popmaster.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

They’re just following orders, right?

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

Given that the police are responsible for Downing street security, it wouldn’t surprise me if some of them were at the party.
No wonder they are not going to investigate.

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

In the same way the grooming gang reports were hidden. There are very many civil servants, police chiefs and council officers who are heavily involved in pedophilia

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
3 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

There’s a great article today at Conservative Woman about how the police collapse into tears when confronted by serious pushback – this is why they target those they perceive to be weak, like the elderly and women, at anti-lockdown protests, and why they go out of their way to ignore grooming gangs.

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

In other words they are no more than playground bullies. We need alpha men to police the streets. Not wimps and faggots

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago

Once the moral authority of the gov’t, the police and “health professionals” is stripped, how long until this farce stops? Weeks, months?

Add in a mass die off, unemployment and no private businesses allowed to operate -early February?

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

Only covidians and the cock-up theorists believe there is any element of morals in the regime’s authority. Those of us who have always known this was meticulously planned for years have seen it as plain totalitarian authority without morals.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

For anyone who is interested in spotting predictive programming, let’s have a look at the Economist magazine cover from 2019. This mag is notorious for hinting at future agenda, like a giddy child playing hide and seek, barely able to keep secret where they’re hiding.

With regards to Corona (crown), pay close attention to the DNA tattoo on his wrist – a hint at the DNA-altering gene therapy advertised as a vaccine. Notice the covid passport (social credit system) on the phone. Notice communist Chinese leader Xi depicted as Pinocchio (it’s all a big fib). Notice the scales of justice are well and truly imbalanced in his hand.

Side points to pay attention to are the facial recognition – something that will hook up with the social credit system when they expand it. Notice the virtual reality goggles – a hint at Juckerberg’s ‘Metaverse’. Notice the way his limbs look artificial – a hint at transhumanism. Is that a picture of Alec Baldwin’s character in the infamous movie, Rust?

The image of La Palma, Cumbre Vieja, at the top. Spanish politicians are currently talking about firing a missile into the crater at the same time they’re talking about an inevitable ‘mega tsunami’.

Make up your own minds, but count me out of the cock-up theorist bracket. This was back in 2019.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

You missed the pangolin, bottom right.

Initial claims were that the coof came from pangolins in the wet market.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

I’m unfamiliar with the pangolin claim but that might explain it being there.

On the otherhand, there was a lot of noise about the ‘virus’ originating from bats – bats are very symbolic in freemasonry.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

On the contrary, nearly everyone is bitching about the hypocrisy of the government, not the restrictions, the real evil.

This serves as an admission restrictions are necessary.

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J4mes
J4mes
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

That’s a slightly different argument to the one I was making, but yes, the furore about the parties has now been well and truly twisted to suit the powers that be.

I don’t call it hypocrisy, I call it brazen superiority complex. These parties might as well have been televised live to the nation as a show of power and to utterly demoralise us.

I say it’s a show of power rather than a distraction, because a day later they introduce the communist Social Credit System along with the reintroduction of mandatory face muzzles – symbolic of the death of freedom of speech and therefore a nation of slaves.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
3 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Even the best laid plans are liable to unforeseen consequences – how can the NWO Brigade survive without willing, reliable and effective wielders of the truncheon and the rifle?

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
3 years ago

Johnson must go – he rendered his position completely untenable the moment it was discovered that parties that included himself, his wife, friends and ministers and various msm journalists were being held at the same time when most of the public cancelled their Christmas festivities because of his decision to lock down the country to ‘stop the spread‘.

Now we know it was all nonsense – there was no real threat otherwise there would not have been these booze-filled bashes – it was a complete fraud and Johnson lied – and now he has introduced new restrictions not for the benefit of the public but to save his political arse – there is nothing he won’t do to save his neck – he must resign.

Btw: Anyone still wearing a mask and following the rules need their heads thoroughly examined.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

“Johnson must go“

Agreed. In fact that has been my position since the end of March 2020, but now it’s becoming a realistic possibility.

So who might replace him, and what will the implications be for panicker policy?

And if the answer is (as it surely will be for many here) “it will make no difference whoever replaces him, because they all obey the same masters and have no autonomy whatsoever), then why does it matter if he goes or stays?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’d rather he didn’t go as there’s a realistic chance that whoever replaces him would be even more authoritarian.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Sad. But true.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I think you are right on the second, so I understand why you think the first, but I see no alternative to taking them down as and when the opportunity arises. But I agree that the short term consequences could well be painful for us.

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paul smith
paul smith
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Not so much a ‘realistic chance’ as a dead certainty.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The more headless the state, the more authoritarianism they get away with.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Stockholm Syndrome much?

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Whilst I agree with Cynical, you raise a very good point! Which shows how we’re ALL being played!

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

But what does it matter if the police are a bunch of pussies? Serious question.

See article at today’s Conservative Woman – “Thugs 2 Woke Police 0”

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“So who might replace him?”

Tivvy the Gonk couldn’t do any worse than Johnson.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

But Tivvy the Gonk, as an inanimate object, would have been miles better than PM Gove, for instance.

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Arum
Arum
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And less creepy into the bargain

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Did the Romanians wait for Ceausescu to resign?

Of course there was no ‘Kent variant’ last Christmas – I was in Waterloo station just before Christmas and two policemen approached me, both without face masks; they knew it was all phoney.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Yes, his restrictions are to cover his fat communist fraudulent arse and plan C is to pretend plan b is necessary.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago

This is a shocker about US pilots

https://twitter.com/peachypuk/status/1469309004161683460/photo/1

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TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

I checked on pprune (prof pilots rumour network) to see if there is any discussion. Anything under medical veering towarfs mention of vax is stomped on by one poster.

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CGL
CGL
3 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

This is doing the rounds – seen it quite a lot in the last few days, but there is some question over whether it is what it says it is. Some are questioning the ages and dates they retired etc. Proceed with caution – it may end up discrediting the cause.

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
3 years ago

Please attend if you can and spread the word …

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
3 years ago

The corruption in this country is worst than a Banana Republic!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago

Why do none of the news reports ever mention the fact that as Summary offences anything which happened a year ago is now time-barred from prosecution? Charges have to be laid within six months of the alleged offence for Summary offences unless the statute creating the offence specifies a longer limit (which the relevant statutes in this case don’t).

So what would be the point in putting a load of effort into investigating something which could not be prosecuted now anyway? Any which have gone through the courts recently will be for alleged offences which were charged within six months of the date they occurred (there is no specified time limit between charge date and court hearing).

The whole focus here is wrong – it should not be on trying to get those involved charged: it should be to use this as a clear illustration that those involved in making and pushing the ‘rules’ clearly don’t even believe in the alleged danger themselves and that such rules should never be imposed.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Correct. Any investigation would only be a whitewash in any case.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

The New World Order globalists are pretty unhappy with the way Boris has been handling things. As bad as he was, the UK had very few restriction up until a couple of weeks ago. Not enough people were dying, so it was bad publicity for lockdowns and other mandates. So now they pulled out the dirt they have on Boris in order to get him out of office. The plan is to replace him with someone even more authoritarian, Eventually, Labour will take over. Spend any time on social media and you’ll see that there are two kinds of people: Those who are against the Tories and those that are against the Tories but in favour of Labour. There is next to no one out there calling out Labour for being even more extreme.

Don’t think that taking Boris down is a victory. It’s not really a victory when the enemy sets it up for you.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

“So now they pulled out the dirt they have on Boris in order to get him out of office. “

One theory often argued for here said that the reason Johnson (and all the other senior politicians) complied with the panic in the first place was that the secret rulers had dirt on him that forced him to obey. If so, and if they now want him out, will we get to see what that was?

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Probably not. Remember what happened to Matt Hancock? He got kicked out… and then given a nice, comfy job with benefits. That’s the deal. Stay true to the party and the party will reward you.
But who knows. Maybe Boris will try and tell his story about how he was coerced into this, and then we will see all sorts of dirt coming out.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Much though I agree with the bulk of your post – have to challenge you on “There is next to no one out there calling out Labour for being even more extreme.”

Don’t know if you have seen the evening bulletins of GB News every night this week, but Dan Wooton and Nigel Farage while calling out the total absence of any authority the current govt has after the exposure of party gate, have been VERY forthright in their condemnation of labour calling it “lockdown harder and longer”

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

That’s why I said “next to no one” and I didn’t just say “no one”.

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
3 years ago

Lee Hurst makes a good point – there are around 6 million unjabbed in the country – add to that the double jabbed who have refused the booster and you have a very powerful voting bloc …

Screenshot 2021-12-10 at 15-34-42 Lee Hurst - Anti-vaxxer (apparently) ( LeeHurstComic) Twitter.png
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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

A block which is currently not represented by any mainstream party!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

How would we get to the vaxpass voting booth?

Would we have enough social credit to buy the entitlement to a postal vote?

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Sorry, but why are you excluding those who have had the “booster”?

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pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
3 years ago

Present-day Tory-ism doesn’t have the spine to ditch Boris.

Present-day Republican-ism doesn’t have the spine to loudly assert that Donald Trump won in 2016 only because of (a) who he was running against, and (b) his grasp of social media theatrics. American national politics are scared to death of the children among us.

Social media has the potential to destroy both countries. Why? How? Because too many of us simply adore it. We have so much FUN on it. It is so GRATIFYING.

Suck it up, folks. We’re doing it to ourselves.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

Donald Trump lost in 2020 only because of who counted the votes

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pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Bull.

I voted for him twice because of who his opponents were.

I’m utterly convinced that there WAS vote fraud in 2020. I can cite public record evidence (hard facts, not claims) that elements in the Democratic Party have almost habitually engaged in vote fraud for decades. For example, the 1960 election was won by the Daley Machine in Chicago.

However, Trump’s emotionally obsessed with the story that he was a victim. He’s incapable of admitting that a substantial part of the electorate had become fed up with the obvious display of his content of character.

He was voted out of office — though the margin is probably highly debatable.

(Yes, I’m well aware that stating all that makes me into a Communist. Shove it.)

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

Doesn’t make you a communist, but it’s still wrong.

There’s not a chance in Hell that anything approaching the 74 million who voted for Trump in 2020 would have supported the Biden team without both the usual Democrat vote-rigging and unprecedented levels of social and information manipulation by the media and by big tech. As to how those votes would have been distributed, who knows, but it seems pretty likely he’d have won anything approaching a “free and fair election”.

Whatever Trump’s flaws (and they are many) the reality is that he outperformed most reasonable people’s (quite low) expectations as US President and the vote he did receive was a pretty ringing endorsement. For every Republican I’ve heard saying, like you, that they held their nose and voted for him, I’ve heard two saying they positively supported him (albeit often with reservations). And for certain a far, far higher proportion of Biden’s voters voted for him because his opponent was the Big Bad Orange Man, than the reverse.

And he’s absolutely correct to see himself as a victim of foul play, and feel resentful of it. He just needs to channel it constructively.

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Otacon
Otacon
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

He’s incapable of admitting that a substantial part of the electorate
had become fed up with the obvious display of his content of character.

Then why did he gain votes? And why has Biden’s political support collapsed so quickly, especially in the swing states that he supposedly won a triumphant victory in?

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

Idiot.

The Biden Mummy got 81 MM votes?

I have a bridge in Nevada to sell you.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ron Desantis 2024

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Otacon
Otacon
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

I don’t think DeSantis wants it, actually. He said he won’t run if Trump does and his wife’s cancer stricken so he might not be up to a campaign in 2024. Some have said he’s not interested in seeking the office of Vice President either

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

In which case, Kristi Noem 2024 and Captain Underpants can get lost, illiterate toupee’d loser that he is.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

We are doing it to ourselves. Look at the world they are creating. Imagine how amazing this world could be if we had decent people running things, who were actually honest, rather than the bunch of depraved lowlifes weve got. But we all comply and allow this crap to prevail. They are filling towns and cities up with microwave weaponry and weaponised lighting systems. Everything is going wireless including all the equipment in the hospitals – literally irradiating people when they are sick. Were injecting pregnant women with something that causes high levels of still borns. It doesnt have to be this way.

Must listen interview with John O Looney and Sam White. Sam says he was threatened by shady actors for speaking out – and that Reiner Fuellmich gave him the publicity to protect him. Apparently Reiner is very protected. This is revealing. Also sounds like there are genuine moves happening behind the scenes to expose and bring down these criminals once and for all, and the rotten system they represent

John O Looney talks with Doctor Sam White
https://www.bitchute.com/video/r7pnHcDyfCLP/

I just found this comment from Paul Weston at TCW and thought it would be good to share. From this article:

Silenced and smeared – the hounding of Dr Sam
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/silenced-and-smeared-the-hounding-of-dr-sam/

What a strange world the Covid Criminals have created.

Here I am, reading up on the stratospheric level of psychotic crime committed in the name of “protecting us” – which has now reached a level Alexander Solzhenitsyn would sadly recognise, yet the vast majority of people surrounding me think masks work; the government is there to protect us, and the vaccines are safe and efficient.

Has there ever been a greater divide between the informed wise and the uninformed ignorant?

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago

We’re truly now in a Third World realm, with a corrupt government, an equally rotten police force, a suborned judiciary, an education system that is a disgrace, and an appalling medical system where the Hippocratic Oath and ethics have disappeared, along with treatment of the sick.

The problem is that there is nowhere to run to, that’s much different.

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
3 years ago

I remember Obama’s 60th birthday bash with 500 guests, all unmasked when mask mandates were in place.
The excuse given was that these were ‘sophisticated people’.
Rank hypocrisy. Heads must roll at No10 and the Met.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

Much as I don’t want to defend the Met, I think they are actually right here – they should not be spending time investigating something which, even if there is evidence, cannot be prosecuted given the time which has elapsed.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

Wikileaks released an email purported to be sent by Obama minions that stated that he spent $65,000 flying “hotdogs” from Chicago to a party in the WH.
 
In the underworld of paedophilia, “hotdog” is a euphemism for young male.
 
Another email released by Wikileaks purported to show an email from Hillary Clinton, in which she admonished Obama for having “hotdog” parties in the WH. She was not worried about the “hotdogs”, she simply wanted Obama to hold the parties elsewhere so as not to harm the Democrats.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

It has been said by experts that the fiat currency based financial system which the West has been using for decades is not going to last beyond 2028.
 
Money out of nothing, debt continually rolled on to the next generations and all the gold and silver bought up on the cheap and stashed away by a small elite. Thank Gordon Brown for selling the UK’s gold at a knock-down price.  
 
Bill Gates doesn’t believe in fiat currency, he immediately exchanges his profits for real estate. He has bought up hundreds of thousands of acres of land. As do the rest of the elite.
 
They’ve crossed the Rubicon with this fake pandemic. They don’t now have the option of going back. They know if this scheme fails, they are going to be turned on big time. They are fully aware that if normies come to see what’s actually going on, it won’t be Nuremberg II they’ll be demanding. Instead, they’ll be sourcing lengths of rope and looking for the nearest lampposts.
 
There’s dark days ahead, very dark days. I wasn’t very religious 12 months ago. I am now. I believe that there is much more at work in the world than just evil human agency.
 
Take a look at this tunnel opening ceremony in Switzerland a few years ago. It has Satanic written all over it. We’re seeing symbols and allusions to Satanism again and again across the world.  

The United Nations has just unveiled a statue outside its New York headquarters. It’s a cheap looking creation, like something out of a sci-fi comic. But it’s a dead-ringer for the beast that’s described in the Book of Revelation.
 
It doesn’t matter whether you believe in Satan or not. What does matter is that there are very powerful people who not only believe in him, but also worship him.
 
If you are a powerful sociopath and stay young by using adrenochrome, Baal is a good deity to worship. You tell your minions that Baal (as he does) demands child sacrifice.
 
Very frightened and tormented children produce large amounts of adrenochrome. This is what the sacrifice is really all about for the powerful sociopath, the adrenochrome is extracted from the blood of the child.
 
The powerful sociopaths may know that Baal is a fiction. But his slower minions don’t. And these minions can justify their participation in the tormenting and sacrificing of children, because it’s what their deity demands.
 
As the Milgram Electric Shock Experiment has shown, when a person can pass on responsibility for their actions to someone else, they’ll obey the obscenest orders and willingly inflict great pain on others. When these same types of people have to accept personal responsibility for their actions, they are much less likely to obey orders that harm or hurt other people.
 
That is why it should not matter if Satan is real or not. Regardless of his reality, powerful people can use him to off-load their minion’s guilt, which enables these minions to go on committing the most atrocious crimes on behalf of the sociopath.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

Stop barking up the wrong tree, DS. Highlighting fines that were forced on ordinary people is only meant to stir up covidian outrage and demands for stricter fines for everybody. Just like having been vaccinated seems to incite people to demand compulsory vaccination in others, as a sort of “retribution” (not a new phenomenon, childhood victims of violence are known to often follow in footsteps of their tormentors).

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Absolutely right.

This situation should be used as a lever against the whole concept of restrictions. That’s the real issue, not whether or not some of Johnson’s minions got communally pissed.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The real issue is that ALL of these parties were attended by those in the know – they all knew there was nothing to fear which would justify the restrictions being imposed to prevent the spread of disease.

Ergo there likely wasn’t a disease being spread and the restrictions were not justified.

Begs question – is that same state of affairs still in existence at time of writing when restrictions being re-imposed (NI hinting now of new lockdown in January) and PM is talking about mandatory vaccination

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

The disease is being spread all right. And the restrictions are still not justified.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

BS. There are people with colds and flu which there always would be at this time of year and we never cancelled christmas, locked people in their own homes or applied vaccine passports. Nor did we have a fake PCR test

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

We used not to have ICU wards full and patients having to be relocated between hospitals because of that happening around Christmas.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

In how many years pre-2020 was there not an “NHS in crisis” scare during the winter?

Fewer than half, certainly.

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

IIRC there were zero years in 2010’s where the NHS wasn’t in crisis. Prior to then I’m not sure.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

I hope they get away with it, it will add to the resentment

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pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
3 years ago

The very idea of today’s Met investigating anything like this is a very bad joke. If memory serves, it’d been told about Jimmy Savile and did nothing.

Scotland Yard said Benazir Bhutto died from striking her head on the vehicle as she fell backwards. That was utter bull. There was video of the back of her shawl flying upwards and out.

It thinks Mirchi Memon hasn’t a solitary thing to do with Dawood Ibrahim and D-Company.

It arrested a pastor for “hate speech”, reading from the Bible about marriage. The day before in the same district, it’d ignored parents’ protests regarding a very public, very “obvious” drag queen parade. It’s amazing it hadn’t arrested the parents.

Scotland Yard has turned itself into a giant political whore.

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RW
RW
3 years ago

I’d argue for the exact opposite here: The police shouldn’t be investigating house parties. Neither house parties in Downing Street nor anywhere else. If Johnson et al didn’t comply with a bad law and got away with it, more power to them in this respect. Lots of other people will have done the same and will also have gotten away with it.

Unless there’s a large surplus of underemployed policemen, one would assume that keeping the population safe ought to be more important for the police then retroactively punishing people for not complying with this or that idiotic SAGE decree as this demonstrably didn’t cause any of the problem SAGE predicted it would.

How very much surprising, given the excellent track record. :->

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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago

For clarification

Magistrates’ courts

In relation to criminal matters, Section 127 of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980[5] states that normally:

a magistrates’ court shall not try an information or hear a complaint unless the information was laid, or the complaint made, within 6 months from the time when the offence was committed, or the matter of complaint arose.

… information is laid for the purposes of section 127 of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980 when it is received at the office of the clerk to the justices for the relevant area. It is not necessary for the information to be personally received by a justice of the peace or by the clerk of the justices.

So these matters can be dealt with now. ‘or the matter of complaint arose’ is what applies here. The six months limitations on proceeding starts on the date the complaint was first made to the police

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

No, you are wrong – the ‘matter of complaint’ means the date of the offence – it does not mean the date when it was reported.. There is copious legal guidance on the internet which confirms this, and there have been a number of test cases where things have been thrown out for violating the time limit.

e.g.: https://www.lexisnexis.co.uk/legal/guidance/what-is-the-time-limit-for-bringing-a-prosecution-for-a-summary-only-offence

Last edited 3 years ago by CynicalRealist
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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

I beg to differ

1 If the matter was known to the police on the date it was committed then yes the six months start then

(There are statutory exceptions such as the service of an NIP within 14 days for moving traffic offences such as speeding)

2 If the complaint arises after the six months from the date of the offence then ‘or the matter of complaint arose’ applies

Why would the words ‘the matter of complaint arose’ appear in the legislation if proceedings were limited in the way you suggest?

Why do the Met say ‘we don’t normally investigate’ as opposed to saying the matters is outside statutory limitations?

Kier Starmer (a former head of the CPS) reiterated this at PMQs

I do have personal experience of applying this law in a professional capacity

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Seriously, you need to read up on how the law works!

‘Complaint’ is used in the legal sense, and the ‘matter of complaint’ arises when the act complainted of takes place – potentially tautologous wording is quite normal in laws as they have to be as specific as possible to avoid leading to multiple challenges in the higher courts.

In this case the Met say that because it’s a class of offence which they have decided that they don’t investigate. There may well be a blanket convention that they don’t say ‘we won’t investigate because it’s time barred’ for anything because that would indicate that they are making assumptions about what the offences are without having investigated it – and in some cases (such as burglaries or minor drug offences) the offences are not necessarily Summary-only.

Which law specifically do you have experience of applying? There are exceptions to the six-month limit if the statute specifically sets this out – e.g. some Health & Safety legislation does this. A longer time limit may be allowed, or it may be qualified as within X months of the prosecutor having the information to mount a prosecution – but this only applies where the statute in question specifically sets it out.

See here for another example: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/555276?reveal_response=yes

The Ministry of Justice response to this petition clearly states the situation:

In relation to the time limits for prosecution, in England and Wales there is no time limit for starting a prosecution for indictable offences (i.e. offences that can be tried in the Crown Court). But under section 127 of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980, a prosecution for a summary offence (which can only be tried in a magistrates’ court) must begin within six months of the day when the offence was committed, unless there is specific statutory provision for a different time limit.

Last edited 3 years ago by CynicalRealist
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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Some interesting case law here too (High Court):
https://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/dougall.pdf

In this case,the defendant was charged with an either-way offence 8 months after the event. The charge was later amended to a lesser summary-only one. This was allowed by the lower courts as the general rule is that charges can be amended if the new charge is based on the same facts as the previous one.

However, in this case the High Court quashed it because the first charge (the either-way one) was laid outside of the six month limit. Although this would be fine for an either-way offence, it meant that when the charge was reduced to a summary-only one it became time-barred. The report also quotes a relevant earlier case where amending an either-way charge to summary beyond six months was allowed, but in that case it was acceptable because the initial charge had been laid within six months of the offence taking place.

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manav95
manav95
3 years ago

People ought to stop rioting and damaging cars and businesses, they ought to start rioting against police stations, government offices, and legislative buildings. That would lead to a resolution of this matter very quickly, and I hope an expedient removal of all coronavirus curbs by these shithead politicians.

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago
Reply to  manav95

And pharmaceutical companies

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  manav95

Top tip for protesters: the members of SAGE don’t live at Hyde Park Corner.

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artfelix
artfelix
3 years ago

The tragedy (in the true sense) for Boris – who is now finished – is that he had his dream at his fingertips and his manifest character flaws snatched the prize from him.

He longed to be Churchill – but Churchill was only Churchill because of “events”. Boris had his event – he could been the Churchillian figure standing up alone against the tide of fanatacism and inspiring the British public to fight their despair and fear and to take a different, nobler path.

But Churchill was a hero and Boris is a coward. And so his once-in-a-lifetime chance came and went and he looks like what he is – a fat, mendacious, mid-wit with the spine of a jellyfish.

Instead of being like DeSantis in Florida – the biggest political winner in the long run undoubtedly out of any leader – he’s just chubby, blundering, failure Boris. He betrayed himself, his idea of himself, his country and everyone who ever wanted to give him the benefit of the substantial doubt.

If there was justice, he’d end his career hanging from a lamppost. But maybe more fittingly he’ll end it knowing he was despised and derided and that no one is laughing with him now, they are laughing at him.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Cripes! Bit harsh there! Go easy on the Bozzter!

boris tongue.jpeg
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Cecil B
Cecil B
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Looks like he’s had a stroke

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

“He longed to be Churchill – but Churchill was only Churchill because of “events”. Boris had his event – he could been the Churchillian figure standing up alone against the tide of fanatacism and inspiring the British public to fight their despair and fear and to take a different, nobler path.
But Churchill was a hero and Boris is a coward. And so his once-in-a-lifetime chance came and went and he looks like what he is – a fat, mendacious, mid-wit with the spine of a jellyfish.”

Yes. This imo is the real tragedy, and farce, of Johnson.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

The tragedy (in the true sense) for Boris – who is now finished – is that he had his dream at his fingertips and his manifest character flaws snatched the prize from him.

The reason why a tragedy (in the classical sense) is tragic is that the hero finds himself in a situations where his virtues end up causing his demise. If anything, that’s a tragedy of the British people whose virtues ended up in them becoming SAGE’s herd of forever unruly cattle forever in need to being directed how to live their lives properly. It’s certainly not a tragedy for Boris Johnson, only a fitting end for the court jester who believed he would make a good king.

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TheApesOfWrath
TheApesOfWrath
3 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Johnson isn’t even fit to sniff the steam off of one of Chamberlain’s turds, let alone compare himself to Churchill.

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Eilidh
Eilidh
3 years ago

UK Column news today pointing out party was on 18th Dec, and restrictions were announced the day after on 19th, so why not say this? Also the studio room Allegra is filmed in was revamped at the beginning of 2021. The room was reopened on 15th March 2021, so how come she’s spilling the beans in the revamped room back in December 2020, before the revamp had been done?

Starts around 26:00

https://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-10th-december-2021

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  Eilidh

UK Column do a great job – UK Column can be useful to introduce to sleepers to hit them with some real facts in a professional manner. Its no bad idea to pitch the idea of watching UK Column to people as an approach to getting them into seeing sense. Put up “WATCH UK COLUMN” signs and this can have an impact. Putting up signs up where people read them can have an effect. Chalked onto the path in summer is another way to do this. Put up signs in your local area and keep an eye on them. Its fun to see how long they last 😉

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago

Orde said he suspected that the cabinet secretary’s inquiry would root out more evidence and that the Met would be forced to make a move.

Sure it will, you can bank on it.

Last edited 3 years ago by Rowan
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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

The entire country knows there was a party, but Dick needs more evidence, it’s kind of surprising because she’s usually so quick to shoot first & ask questions later.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

“Dick needs more evidence, it’s kind of surprising because she’s usually so quick to shoot first & ask questions later.“

Touche. Not much point questioning the Brazilian electrician afterwards, though…

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iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yep, it all reminds me of that election thingy that took place on the other side of the Atlantic.

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TheApesOfWrath
TheApesOfWrath
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Dick out!

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

The evil is the restrictions, not the hypocrisy.

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pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
3 years ago

Andrew Breitbart’s book, Hollywood Interrupted was a direct attack upon celebrity-ism. Who had used that tactic to advance themselves? Who might have reason to be irate over Breitbart’s exposure?

He died after having a heart attack while out on his evening walk. What might (might) be the possibility that he was stabbed by a passer-by and injected with a lethal chemical?

Donald had run in 2000 as a “conservative”, in league with the Perot group’s Reform Party. What would his reaction have been to someone as broadly-respected as Breitbart saying, he was faking it?
https://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-breitbart-rise-fall-20160318-story.html

It’s already been noted that Breitbart might have put himself in Hillary’s and Bill’s crosshairs. (Intense speculation about the existence of a Washington DC sex ring.)

What about Donald, already long-famous for a hair-trigger temper?

Both Slick Willie and Donald were already linked to Epstein.

Does anyone here remember the name Vincent Foster?

(You will please note that nothing in this comment has anything to do with anything later than 2012. Let’s deal in history, chaps.)

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pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
3 years ago
Reply to  pre-Boomer Marine brat

I should have left well enough alone. The previous is fact-based, but if there are admins watching, I request that it be deleted. It’s too off-topic for to fit the purposes of this blog, and it’s those purposes which led me to sign up.

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kate
kate
3 years ago

UK

Table shows the percentage of people (adults and children) with either no dose or no second dose of a Covid-19 injection in each of the four nations

30% of the population (adults and children) has either not received any dose or no second dose of a Covid-19 injection.

Almost 4.6 million people have received a first dose but have not yet received a second dose and almost 16 million have received no dose at all.

A total of 1,822 deaths now reported by the MHRA along with over 1.3 million injuries suffered by almost 400,000 people (an average of 3.3 injuries per person) following the experimental Covid-19 injections

Link to Population estimates: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/bulletins/annualmidyearpopulationestimates/mid2019estimates

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Ruth Learner
Ruth Learner
3 years ago

Not according to UK Column – reporting that the dates were outside of announced restrictions (whether that is true or not) one does suspect this is a red flag/ distraction for? Regime change machinations …? Plan Bs and Cs? Mainly it’s a borefest given the 0 credence i and many people give to political parties of all hues in this country.

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago

Once again the Government investigates itself. The corruption is now so blatant that it’s time for all citizens to create local groups to deal with local issues and to avoid central control completely. We do not have a Government fit for purpose. We do not need the drug addicts and alcoholics of Westminster ruining our lives.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

Bye bye boris

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TheApesOfWrath
TheApesOfWrath
3 years ago

Yawn. Who gives a monkey’s about red herrings and dead cats?

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