The latest UKHSA Vaccine Surveillance report came out yesterday, allowing us to update our estimates of unadjusted vaccine effectiveness. Last week I noted that vaccine effectiveness was stabilising, and this week we can see it rising in the older age groups. Despite this, it is still negative for those aged 30-79, highly so for 40-69 year-olds, and barely positive in the over-80s and 18-29 year-olds.
Part of the reason for the recent rises in the older age groups may be the boosters that have been rolled out since September 20th – you can see a staggered stabilising and then rise across the age groups in the graphs above and below. This means that we are no longer seeing clean data for double-vaccinated versus unvaccinated, as some are triple-vaccinated. The UKHSA report doesn’t include figures for ‘dose three’ and appears to include the triple-jabbed in its ‘received two doses’ category, though oddly does not clarify either way.
The report still claims of course that its data is too biased to be used to estimate vaccine effectiveness, and lists the usual reasons. We await any actual data on the differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated populations, such as testing rates, seroprevalence and prior Covid positives, that would help to account for these biases.
While the raw data shows infection rates often much higher in the double-vaccinated than the unvaccinated, and a number of studies have shown negligible vaccine effectiveness after six months, the official line is that the vaccines remain positively efficacious. Test-negative case-control studies are often used to demonstrate this, which we criticise here. A recent UKHSA study on boosters put the pre-booster effectiveness at 44.1% for AstraZeneca and 62.5% for Pfizer, five months after dose two. Such estimates must be considered upper bounds, given the biases in the case-control design that seem consistently to inflate vaccine effectiveness estimates.
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The graph certainly suggests the boosters have an effect.
Not good news really. This means we are going to have to endure another six months of vaccine glorification, this time compounded by the demonisation of the unjabbed.
Clearly the test underway is whether society will accept having to be plugged with a jab every six months as a condition for their freedom.
So far it’s not looking good, for us.
Why are you accepting the regimes data as accurate? Are you aware of the evidence showing that the curve of death ALWAYS follows the curve of injection?
And the evidence of death following injections you mention is based on whose data? The “regimes” perhaps?
I don’t need to pick and chose when I believe official data and when I don’t based on whether it suits my argument or not.
My position is lockdowns, masks, social distancing, mandated jabs and vax passports are an atrocity EVEN IF THEY WORKED, which they don’t.
I don’t oppose any of those things because they don’t work. I oppose them because they destroy our freedom and give power to totalitarian power freaks.
Its based on the numbers of people dying after being injected. I dont think those numbers can be fudged, unlike the data you seem to rely on in your post.
Agreed its a principal issue nothing more nothing less
They may well be aware but are choosing to not to see it.
I am a lot more positive. Plenty of people have already woken up and realised they have been lied to; when they have to roll up their sleeves again in five months many more will reach the same conclusion. People are not being vaccinated to save their lives, they are being vaccinated to make the government look good…
People are assuming that the protection (if there is truly any) offered by the booster will also last 6 months. The body gets used to things as time goes by, I can imagine whatever positive effects there are will last less with each shot. Plus, what does it mean for the body to have it continually primed with antibodies for one specific virus that a given person may not even encounter?
It looks to me as if the repeated injections will prime the recipient for increased vulnerability to a variant. Repeated boosters will create the respiratory pandemic they desire.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22536382/
Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus
https://rybicki.blog/2020/04/11/antibody-dependent-enhancement-in-coronaviruses/
That is certainly what has been seen in Israel – that the “boost” from the booster lasts for much less time than the original injection, and also that the adverse reactions are worse – lots of stories of grim levels of illness amongst the triple vaccinated in Israel.
they are being vaccinated to stay alive. For the time being.
LOL that’s a new twist, once you’re vaccinated you have to be topped up every 6 months, or you die, wouldn’t that be hilarious. Sorry, I’m running out of sympathy for people that took the poison.
And boots drug companies profits
Vaccines, boosters, infections…….stop conditioning us to accept the oppressors bogus terminology at face value, or does this journal believe Ignorance is Strength?
Greece imposes further restrictions on unvaccinated, even if they test negative
https://cyprus-mail.com/2021/11/18/greece-imposes-further-restrictions-on-unvaccinated-even-if-they-test-negative/
Are these the stats that usually come with the vague warning to “be careful because of the denominators”?
when redrawn with ONS age demographics instead of the presented data with NIMS age demographiccs, it looks quite different.
I read about that on Twitter. Allegedly the NIMS age demographic is quite unreliable and unrepresentative of the actual real age demographics
The amazing thing about these supposedly dodgy denominators is that no one thought they were an issue when the data were showing the vaccines work… they have only become an issue since everyone who is vaccinated has got covid.
ONS underestimate the number who are unvaccinated.
Graphs don’t set you free, neither do “vaccines” it seems.
Headline Correction ATL:
“Vaccines Are Pointless Dangerous Experimental Crap
Effectiveness Remains Negative in 30-79 Year-Olds, Government Data Shows, Despite Boosters Starting to Kick In”You’re welcome.
Seems to me the further we go down the rabbit hole, the more difficult it is becoming to make any sense of the stats. As said ATL, have these folk have 1 jab, 2 jabs, 3 jabs? At what point post jab do they count the person as vaccinated? How many people are unvaccinated due to frailty, chronic illness etc etc? How can we tell if someone has already had Covid when testing wasn’t done on a massive scale till long after some of us think we might have had it (ie pre lockdown in March 2020) And so it goes on.
I have a horrible feeling it will normalise into a yearly thing…but just like still taking your belt and shoes off at the airport, all the crap they introduced will be left in place, even though the original thing you did it for is way past!
I don’t think they will be able to maintain the fear, which is the motivation for people to roll up their sleeves. The fourth jab in March will finish the game, imho.
The sensible thing to do would be to offer a covid jab with the flu jab every year so people could have it if they wanted to. But when was the last time we saw anything sensible being done? But it may also be that the jabs will ultimately start causing major health problems that can’t be hidden in the stats, that’s probably already started actually, and that will really make people wake up.
And that’s the reason I don’t fly anymore, not that I can now, anyway, In 2006 on the weekend I went on a special celebration trip to Venice they brought in emergency terrorism rules at the airport. No hand luggage was allowed, only cash, cards, tickets, passport and ONE day’s medication, in a clear plastic bag, were allowed through customs and onto the plane. It was hell. They then lost my luggage with rest of meds and I didn’t get it back until the end of my trip. I had to get my my parents to arrange to send emerancy medication out to me by courier. Those rules were in place for a long time after, and although they lifted some of the restrictions, most still stand, I think.
“but just like still taking your belt and shoes off at the airport”
Which in itself is all a pantomime act, it protects no one, but gives the illusion that it does.
Just like this current situation.
I’m not sure any of this matters any more. I am usually upbeat, and try to stay positive, and I will never give in to this tyranny, but it seems to me that the actual science is all going the sceptics way, and yet more countries are doubling down on vaccines and NPIs.
I’m not sure what can stop it, when so many people are willing to believe and trust such blatant liars, who don’t even question illogical thinking, and don’t seem to be worried about the downright atrocities that are being committed in front of their eyes.
I have always thought from the beginning that this might be something that overtakes us all, whether we like it or not. I suspect no one in history wanted to be overtaken by the Vikings, Romans or Mongols either….
So, keep posting, keep going, (and keep me going!)
This is exactly what I mean….
70 nursing homes residents
67 infected [96%]
8 dead [12% CFR]
98% fully vaccinated
And they still plan on giving boosters to the survivors…
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/coronavirus/8-dead-dozens-infected-with-covid-19-due-to-outbreak-at-connecticut-nursing-home/2652161/
So, for those of us double jabbed, that looks like we need to continue getting jabbed to stave off Covid.
What’s the infection and death rates like for those who have had a booster?
maybe it’s too early to tell?
I guess the data from Israel is the best place to look as they have been doing boosters probably for the longest time. There was a piece i read yesterday in market ticker suggesting that what data there is shows that the efficacy of the 3rd jab is even shorter than that of the first two.
Re the ‘booster’ shots in Israel….
Matan Holzer
@MatanHolze a nice work on vaccine efficacy in Israel, as measured on returnees from abroad, who are tested regardless vax status; thus eliminating common and very influential bias – less tests for vaccinated
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=396360
@IsraelMOH
MOH’s response: *stopped publishing those data*
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3963606
Wow, Austria are now making vaccination compulsory.
Austria will become the first European country to go back into full lockdown and the first to make Covid vaccination compulsory.
Vienna imposed restrictions on the unvaccinated earlier this week, but those who had had both jabs remained free to move around.
But authorities now believe that is not enough to bring down the infection rate, and are putting the whole country back under a hard lockdown for at least 10 days from Monday.
Restaurants, pubs, and all non-essential shops will be closed and people will be told to remain at home. Classroom teaching will be suspended and schools will revert to distance learning.
The lockdown will last a maximum of 20 days, chancellor Alexander Schallenberg told a news conference on Friday.
Vaccination will also become compulsory from Feb. 1, he added. Those who refuse could face heavy fines.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/covid-latest-news-austria-to-go-into-full-lockdown-and-make-vaccination-compulsory/ar-AAQTuR1
I would assume the fines will need to go through the courts, even in a country with an authoritarian history like Austria. Which will take time.
However, the cabal are moving very quickly, and carrying out the stages that were leaked in the Canadian report last year.
https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/
I suppose they believe that rapid change is more likely to succeed before people have understood fully what is happening, and can combine to push back.
Need we remind the Europe what the European Court of Human Rights-ECHR ruled at the beginning of the poison rollout.
Vaccines should Not be forced or coerced!
Meanwhile, Romania with a low vaccination rate, numbers go up, numbers come down. I’d excpect exactly the same in Austria **except** how much damage is being done with high levels of vaccination.
Data from yesterday’s HSA week 46 report on deaths & hospitalisation by age.
During a period when less than 80% of the population were double jabbed 82% of the fatalities were vaccinated!
A few points:
Surely the message from all this is that vaccinations aren’t going to save you. For anyone who’s relatively healthy, no matter what age, the virus isn’t much of a threat, & if in the past 20 months you haven’t taken steps to shed excess weight, sort out your diabetes, take vitamin D, C & zinc then don’t expect some magical cure to sort you out.
Not all deaths would have occurred in hospital.
Not all, but the vast majority do. Not only do they mainly happen in hospital but a big proportion get infected in hospital.
And on the headlines i unfortunately heard just now, Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber says ‘vaccine passports are a small price to pay’, i stopped listening at that point but assume he was going on to say a small price to pay for keeping the theatres open (and his money rolling in of course). You wonder if people are capable of looking beyond the very narrow confines of their own lives.
Raw data, graphs, relative/absolute risks, statistics can always be, let’s be kind. and say “misinterpreted”, sometimes even lies are told. Shock. John Ionnidis.
A better understanding of exactly how the immune system works is essential, especially for the vaccinologists.
The mrna vaccines bypass the innate immune system and thereafter rely on a suitable immune response being generated by the adaptive system – antibody production.
Ideally B and T cell immunity is provoked – but it is clear that the vaxxes only work via antibody production, which inevitably wanes- hence the “Boosters” as there is little if any memory generated by interferons, B and T cells etc.
In other words, the only way to get anything like permanent immunity is to err, catch covid which leads to herd immunity.
For the vaxxes to “work” the recipients will forever have to have antibodies whizzing around generated by boosters – and NO primed memory cells available for when they meet the real thing.
This is against nature. No-one has got a bloody clue as to the inevitable long term harms of permanent antibody production and that’s before even mentioning the potential for harm caused by the necessary crap inside the “Vaccine” to enable the toxic spike protein to be generated..
It is unbelievable how little is known about immunity – and I’m only talking about the known unknowns. As ever in complex systems the real dangers are the unknown unknowns.
All we get from the MSM is manipulated/supportive data.
They treat it as a given that the jabs are working and are harmless.
We seem to have gone beyond even questioning this.
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Boosters, more of the same. – “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
We are reaching crunch time DS will soon have to come off the fence or face total irrelevance. We live in the most extreme of times and the enemies of the people are their own governments, who are clearly shilling hard for Big Pharma and the self appointed vaccine depopulation tsar Bill Gates. Whether you are vaxxed or unvaxxed doesn’t really matter, your government wants you dead and soon at that.
To be honest, they have come under so much criticism for publishing these figures, I’m surprised they’re still allowed to publish. I’m guessing they’re letting it go on so they can reel people in and then hit them with some serious spin in a week or two.
“Those without boosters fifty million times more likely to die.” etc
This is because the immunity in non-vax people is going strong and increasing, while the limited immunity provided by vaccines decreases fast. If this is correct, then we should see a rise in vaccine effectiveness after the boosters, but not to the same level as the first round of vaccines (more non-vax people, which are the control, have higher levels of immunity than before), and this will go negative even faster. At some point, the vaccine effectiveness will be pegged in the negative, with periodic boosters lifting it to near non-vax levels. This means that people who have chosen the vaccine will be dependent on the booster.
We also have to wonder just how many vaccinated people are acquiring natural immunity by becoming infected.
From a political perspective, they will need to blame the non-vax people for the continued “pandemic” even though we will never be able to get rid of this virus any more than we can get rid of the flu or the common cold.
This data doesn’t appear to take into account the reduced lethality of the delta variant over the alpha variant which the injectable covid treatment is supposed to protect against . if the delta variant is around 40 % of the lethality ( 0.1 % IFR against .27 % ) .
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Vaccine effectiveness would look better against the delta then the alpha, would it not ?
PS are they still injecting the alpha drugs for delta ? If so then that is maybe one of the biggest indicators of the total scam this experimental drug rollout is looking to be ?
It like Will Jones is going to have to eat his disparaging words of September when he rubbished Geert Vanden Bossche’s cogently argued case against continuing a mass vaccination programme in the middle of a pandemic.
Just about everything the highly-qualified Belgian predicted is coming true, in terms of breakthrough infections as vaccine efficacy fades. In countries with the highest injection rates, such as Gibraltar, Iceland, Israel and the UK, the vaccinated now constitute the majority of new cases, hospitalisations and ICU admissions.
Yet still the reckless jabfest goes blithely and ineffectively on, boosters rampant, with the younger generations now being dragooned into forfeiting their natural immunity with injections which the empirical evidence strongly suggests they do not need.
We had all better start praying that Will Jones and the dubiously qualified qualified Hart cancer specialist who joined him in his gratuitous piece of Bossche-bashing will be proved right. But it sure ain’t looking that way.
And here’s the comparison between unvaccinated and vaccinated (any dose) positive test rates. Get a clearer picture of the under 18 group doing it this way (as very few under 18s have been double jabbed).
And you can’t get to the double jabbed status without going through the single jabbed status first so should combine statuses.
Joe Rogan said his doctor, Pierre Kory, is part of a group that has used Ivermectin to quietly treat 200 Members of U.S. Congress for COVID19. Dr Simone Gold, from America’s Frontline Doctors, told that she has prescribed treatments for Congress. She still believes in her oath, but she is vocal saying she has been contacted by many in DC. Can you believe these demons? Healing for them are OK but not for us. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
So how long before the booster’s effect starts to wane, and we start the cycle all over again, then again, and again….?
Yes it appears the koolaid is weakening people’s immune systems and this is causing the vaxxed to get covid. Oops, not very effective is it?