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A Patient Writes…

by Toby Young
29 October 2021 7:30 AM

Jonny Peppiatt, a regular contributor to the Daily Sceptic, has just returned home after a recent hospital stay. He shares his thoughts about what it’s like to be a non-Covid patient in a Covid-obsessed NHS.

“The back left of my throat is extremely painful. It hurts too much to talk, or eat, and feels like if it swells up any more then my throat will close. The pain’s spread through the left side of my jaw, my back teeth, and my left ear now too. I wouldn’t normally come to A&E for a “sore throat”, but I am worried about this swelling and struggling to breathe.”

That was the note I showed the receptionist at A&E this morning at about 3:40am. She took my details and I took a seat, prepared for the wait with some Netflix downloads, Spotify, and some work to do. Anything to distract me from the pain in my throat.

About half an hour later I was called to triage. First question: Have you had your Covid vaccine?” I answered their question honestly, and there was no follow up. Triage concluded that I should stick around, get some blood tests, and see a doctor. So that’s what I did.

The doctor took a look around my throat, asked if I’d had my Covid vaccine, confirmed the results of the bloods showed a very high infection, and told me she’d like to give me some medication and some antibiotics. She then told me to go back to the waiting room and wait to be called through to the main area of the hospital.

I was soon taken through to the minor treatments area off the back of A&E, where the first question I was asked was, “Where’s your mask?” I replied with the typical “I’m exempt” with a wave of the wrist. Only to get the reply, “This is a hospital though.” I pointed out that the hospital is not some sovereign territory exempt from the Government’s exemption rules. I was then left to be, maskless. But I was very quickly asked, once more, “Have you had your Covid vaccine?” Again, I answered and again there was no follow up. Come to think of it, what would they do with either answer?

I was then put on some strong intravenous antibiotics, although I had to face away from the doctor setting it up because of my masklessness. While I was facing the curtain though, she asked me, “Why aren’t you scared? You have a very high infection.” I’d like to think most NHS staff should have more faith in themselves than to go around asking patients why they aren’t scared while in hospital, but I gave her a nice simple reply: “Why should I be scared? I’ll get better.”

Now, being sick is deeply unpleasant, and I can understand a fear of getting sick, but if I’m already sick, and I know I won’t die, and I’m confident that I won’t get worse, then I don’t think I have anything to fear.

Anyway, this scene passed and soon there was an orderly coming my way. I took out my headphones to hear him telling me that I was required to take a Covid test. I asked him what would happen if I didn’t want to take a test. He asked me if I was refusing the test. I told him I might be. He told me that he was just doing his job and if I did want to refuse, then that was fine, I’d just need to say so so that he could go log it on the system. Fine then, I told him, I refuse.

A little while later, about 7:30am, the ENT specialist cane to take a look. He decided that a minor operation would be necessary, and sprayed my throat up with some vile numbing spray that had me gagging and spluttering. But, I thought, at least once this is done I can head home. Alas, I was mistaken. It turned out my “refusal” to take a Covid test wasn’t so fine. The doctor, it turned out, was being more obstinate than I’d been in his refusal to do the procedure until I’d had a test. We debated it briefly, pointing out that it was pretty clear I didn’t have Covid: he pointed out that I had a sore throat which was a Covid symptom; I pointed out that he’d literally just moments earlier diagnosed it as something else which had led him to deciding to do the minor op he’d just planned. It also became clear that all three of us in that discussion had had Covid early in 2021, and were all believers in the conspiracy theory of natural immunity. It was accepted that the tests weren’t wholly reliable, and it was appreciated that I didn’t want to swab my tonsils when they were the sorest part of my body at that point. Despite all of this agreement, it became clear that he wasn’t going to back down. He had the power after all, and he knew it. I needed the procedure. So I backed down.

The inevitable negative result came back about 8am, at which point I was admitted and transferred to a main ward, where I then waited for another hour and a half for a quick procedure that they were ready to do at 7:30am, but couldn’t because I hadn’t ticked the negative Covid test box. However, the wait at this point most likely wasn’t me being intentionally ignored for being Covid non-compliant (which I did wonder when a new doctor turned up later), nor was it me being forgotten because of poor admin and because I’d moved to a ward. This delay was happening over the shift changes, which was why I had a new doctor – well a new team of three doctors (I expect one or two were students) – when I did see a doctor again at 9:30am, and, just to keep you informed, this new doctor was equally interested in the results of my Covid test. She did her examination, came to roughly the same conclusion as the previous doctor, and then disappeared to get the minor op kit ready.

Five minutes later she and her two colleagues returned to numb up my throat for the second time and then stick sharp pointy things into my mouth. An unpleasant minor op, without a doubt, but, credit where it’s due, this was probably the first good experience I’d had with the NHS. The procedure was well explained, well managed, and well executed. And from this point, I received no more questions on masks or jabs, so that’s where I’ll end the tale.

I’ll also leave the bulk of the inferences to you; particularly because what can anyone reliably infer from one man’s relatively short trip to the hospital? But I will say this: there was never any judgment for not being jabbed; only one person at any point over 12 hours said anything about masks; and the only real frustration was the repeated obsession with having a test done.

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GlassHalfFull
GlassHalfFull
3 years ago

In many cases antibodies slowly disappear after about 5 months.
Memory B and T cell immunity can last a lifetime.
Some people still have T cell immunity from SARS over 18 years ago.
One woman was reported some years ago to have T cell immunity from the Spanish Flu 80 years later.
Natural immunity is preferable to an experimental jab.

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SilentP
SilentP
3 years ago

This is relevant:

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/08/22/microbiologist-explains-covid-jab-effects.aspx?ui=1fb065e0c4152b58bd4ed94cf29c7cbfad40307fb723460ddabacd55f3c58b0c&sd=20210518&cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20210822&mid=DM965495&rid=1241802876

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago

The data could be used to “inform the ongoing approach to the pandemic and give further insight into the effectiveness of vaccines on new variants,” DHSC said.

This sentence gives me the impression most people testing positive currently are those who have been vaccinated! Every day I hear of yet another person with both vaccines (AZ) who has got covid with symptoms and gone on to test positive.

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago
Reply to  wendy

You can view all the data and numbers in the latest technical briefings here

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201

For the past 10 weeks only 10% of cases in over 50’s were unvaccinated which roughly corresponds to the uptake lol.

In under 50’s as the number of unvaccinated diminishes so does the percentage of unvaccinated testing positive, down from 64% to 52%.

Oh dear Boris !!

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wendy
wendy
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Ah, thank you for the figures.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Where do you get these figures

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

This is exactly what we need – another government testing programme. All their testing and monitoring programmes so far have been such a great success, and have gathered meaningful, useful date that has been analysed honestly and used to inform a rational, evidence based response to covid.

Back in the real world, any (probably meaningless) data gathered will be used or ignored or distorted in order to fit political agendas.

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

They have however gathered meaningful, useful money. This is more of the same.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago

And the point of all this is ?

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Thus the point of it is to find that a %age of those infected with covid don’t develop antibodies.

Thus they can say that natural infection isn’t great, because some (many?) don’t develop antibodies.

But note that they’re not testing after vaccination — where there are also a certain proportion that don’t develop antibodies. They’d prefer that people not know this.

The results of this are broadly known, although the MSM don’t seem to want to report this — the majority of older people develop antibodies after infection (>95%), but the proportion decreases with decreasing age, to the point where young children are relatively unlikely to make antibodies (as low as 20-30%).

So, the point of it (in the end) will be one of:

  • Children don’t develop antibodies, and we know that viruses hate antibodies, therefore they all need to be vaccinated. Queue here please.
  • Shock horror — it isn’t all about antibodies. Therefore we don’t need to worry about the studies that’ll come along (sooner or later) that show that ‘too high’ a proportion of those vaccinated don’t make antibodies, or that antibodies are waning rather rapidly 6 months post vaccination

Which one of those two situations applies will depend on the pressure on the authorities (they’ll know already, but they’re certainly not going to tell us that).

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

I’d note also that some weird stuff is going on at the moment:

  • We’re being told Delta is bad.
  • And they’re starting booster shots
  • But people are being told that they’re only for the vulnerable.
  • And might not be for the non-vulnerable.
  • And they’re jabbing children now — but only with one dose. The evidence is that a single dose of vaccine offers rather puny benefit against infection/transmission/hospitalisation/death.
  • There was also the BBC article last Friday about how natural immunity is fine (not inferior to vaccine immunity), that there’s also cellular immunity as well as ‘antibodies’, and that it might be best to have the population getting covid in the end (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58270098). This won’t be a ‘accidental release’ as some suggest — this will be done as part of the propaganda machine’s work.

I have a suspicion that ‘something has happened’ and this has resulted in the authorities shying away from a universal third jab. Thus they’re having to put out feelers to people to say ‘don’t worry, it won’t be needed for you.‘.

The question is why? I don’t know the answer to this, but I’ll suggest:

  • Their data is showing ADE starting to be a problem. They don’t want to make this worse with a third dose.
  • There’s an increase in anaphylaxis after the booster, due to sensitisation to PEG after the earlier doses. This could be masked in the elderly (higher background death rates), but not so easily in the younger population.
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divoc origi 19
divoc origi 19
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

I saw the BBC article too and was quite surprised… although like you, once you realise that there is a reason for it being there, you start the question the motive. I am guessing that the narrative will shift to be that the most robust protection will be vaccination PLUS natural infection for those that are not in the most vulnerable categories.

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Lilacblue
Lilacblue
3 years ago
Reply to  divoc origi 19

Yes, that article is there for a reason, there will be something behind it. Interesting to see how this plays out in the media.

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Join an unpaid research project so that pharma can make more profit.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

That magical money jungle keeps on giving.

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Yep, and some people are making shit loads of money from this scam

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Stephensceptic
Stephensceptic
3 years ago

I strongly believe that the true understanding of this disease is very shaky.

The current priest class of scientists collectively are no better informed in reality than Medieval soothsayers finding witches and heresies everywhere.

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helenf
helenf
3 years ago

They are collecting your dna, folks

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ebygum
ebygum
3 years ago

I just think it’s more psy-ops smoke and mirrors.
Is there solid scientific evidence that antibodies will make people immune or offer protection from Covid-19…. if so how are they becoming re-infected?
Surel cross-reactivity is a major challenge for Covid-19 antibody tests as there are six, I think, other Coronaviruses known to infect humans?
This is even if you believe the PCR detects anything real in the first place!?
Nope, just something else with which I WILL NOT COMPLY!

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Why do these simple things have to be reiterated so many times? People get reinfected because the immune system counteracts infections. It can’t prevent them.

Granted, in the silly corona universe, where every harmless infection is sufficient to set the whole, idiotic machinery into motion, this may sound like a big thing but it isn’t. The fundamental contradiction here is that infection is assumed to be harmless to the infected but dangerous to the non-infected. Until they become infected. Then, it reverts to harmless to you but dangerous to others.

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Uncle Monty
Uncle Monty
3 years ago

It’s almost as if everything Mike Yeadon wrote about on immunology last year was true after all. 🤷‍♂️
Seems Yeadon and Toby Young were only wrong in one aspect of their reading of the trajectory of Covid when they claimed last summer that Covid was over and that there would be no second wave.
We can now see that Covid has knocked flu off its perch to become the dominant seasonal respiratory disease and will in all likelihood return each year.
On balance, Yeadon, Young et al have been far more accurate in their pronouncements than Ferguson and his SAGE goons.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Another ploy to keep the scam going.

The PCR is not a diagnostic tool so the results produced are meaningless. Which of course means the anti-body tests will be meaningless and let’s not forget covid has not even been proven to exist.

All in all a pile of fake science more akin to witchcraft. However, what this nonsense will provide is lots of scary headlines “proving” that we don’t produce anti-bodies after infection. What’s the betting there will be repeat follow ups just to confirm the outcome that has already been decided upon?

For an IFR of 0.15%.

More taking the P.

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OnceIWasARemainer
OnceIWasARemainer
3 years ago

So, almost a year and a half after they should have started offering antibody tests they are now doing it. Making a honest tracking of how antibody levels change over time is a worthwhile study, though of course undetectably low levels does not mean that the person’s immunity has expired, only that it is sitting dormant within tissue. But one wonders why they didn’t roll out freely available antibody tests to all willing takers in around April of 2020, so we could see how many people had already had it and that we could have been unafraid even then. I would have liked to get one in about April 2020, being one of many people who suspected they had a case in the first wave, but I guess they’ve waited like this to start making the tests available because they want to make sure antibodies from earleir waves have diminished beyond detectability so they won’t have people realising that the population was largely immune by the end of wave 1.

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JohnK
JohnK
3 years ago

Well, it’s a strong whiff of obsession, and commercial opportunity as a result. Worthwhile public expenditure? I doubt it.

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Zoomer@14
Zoomer@14
3 years ago

Another disgusting pharmaceutical money spinner… we just keep allowing them to wring this out indefinitely.

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TheBigman
TheBigman
3 years ago

Seeing as the test will always give a positive result given enough tests done I imagine these results are just another means to obfuscate the details further.

If a PCR comes back with a false positive then chances are that the person won’t have any antibodies, if they never had it why would they, and as a result based off these two tests new policies restricting your life in some way will be born.

What happened to the original thoughts touted at the beginning of this charade: Everyone will get it at some point and the “overwhelming majority” will have very little or “mild” symptoms.

By now we could all have had it and all be getting on fine.

Why anyone can think this is all just by accident and mismanaged I don’t know.

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davews
davews
3 years ago

I had an antibody test as part of the Biobank program, after I had received both my AZ jabs. It was negative, make of it what you want.

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