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Pressure Grows on Government to Ditch Quarantine Policy

by Toby Young
27 September 2021 11:20 AM

On Saturday, the Irish Government announced that incoming travellers from its list of ‘designated states’ (Ireland’s ‘Red List’) would no longer have to quarantine for two weeks, creating pressure on Westminster to follow suit. The Telegraph has more.

Hotel quarantine could face the axe amid growing pressure on the Government to follow Ireland’s decision to ditch the policy.

The Department for Transport (DfT) is understood to back the move which would end the requirement for travellers from Red List countries to self-isolate in Government-approved hotels at a cost of up to £2,285 per person.

The travel industry is also pressing for the policy to be ditched following Ireland’s announcement on Saturday that it was removing the final six countries from its red list and freeing the last 50 travellers from the self-isolation in hotels from Sunday.

“We can’t forget that we’re still an outlier on arrivals testing and hotel quarantine, and the Irish decision should hopefully embolden ministers to move to home quarantine as quickly as possible for Red List passengers,” said a senior travel industry source.

“Hotel quarantine was very much a policy of its time but things have moved on.”

Hotel quarantine was introduced at the start of the year amid growing concern at the emergence of variants that it was feared could undermine the effectiveness of the vaccine roll-out.

However, since then the variants of most concern – such as the beta strain that emerged in South Africa – have been marginalised by the dominant Delta variant, that originated in India and is now the most common in the U.K. as well as most other countries.

The Irish Government’s decision was made on the advice of its Chief Medical Officer Dr. Tony Holohan on the basis that the dominance of the Delta variant meant hotel quarantine was no longer need to contain other variants of concern.

U.K. has more countries on its Red List than any other E.U. nations at 54 and is one of the few countries still to have hotel quarantine alongside Australia and New Zealand, both of which have far lower rates of vaccination than the U.K.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: IrelandQuarantine HotelsRed List

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Interment was just another tool to get us to social credit score apps.

They start on October the 1st in Scotchland and I believe the Welsh town council has legislated for them as well.

England has temporarily delayed mandating them, while getting their systems integrated with the EU.

All roads lead to social credit score apps, and social credit score apps will end all dissent, forever.

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Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Yup. Quarantine was/is a ‘necessary problem.’ They had their ‘solution’ lined up long before they implemented this ‘problem’.

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

They don’t work on my phone. Nokia 1112 RH43… Oh, help, what is a person to do?

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

Good. Now, if we could also apply more pressure so they cut out the fascist BS and quit this vaccine passport nonsense, that would be great.

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NonCompliant
NonCompliant
3 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Vax Passport in the end game, coming to England in the not so distant future.

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Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

The Nazi Pass (let’s call a spade a spade), although instrumental, is just the end game of phase 1.
Once they’ve got people willingly flashing their digital QR ID around, there will be no limit to the amount of control they’ll have over the people.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

Exactly. The social credit scope app (I call it what the Mandarin Empire calls it) is the tool that ends all dissent, forever.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Locked out of your bank account if you are ‘naughty’. There are still people who think this can’t happen.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

The UK is starting a digital ID scheme to probably do just that and make sure you’re traceable across the internet.

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blunt instrument
blunt instrument
3 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

Or CCP pass. They are offered to share their app with the world at the last G7 summit.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

You already have your ‘Vaxx Pass’ waiting for you to download. It is not a matter of ‘in the future’ any more.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-covid-pass#nhs-covid-pass-what-it-is

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

But it won’t work on my Nokia 1112 RH43…
I can’t afford one of they new-fangled brainy phones an I loves my little Nokia.
Do you think they’ll make it law to have a brainy phone?

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Shirespeed
Shirespeed
3 years ago
Reply to  IanC

Of course not, the choice as to whether to get a phone which will support the app, or be locked out of society will be yours alone.

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Mark
Mark
3 years ago

Pressure grows on government to drop insane, costly policies supported by “Opposition” and political, media and social elites, that have no possible rational and honest justification.

Well that’s fine and dandy. But surely such a headline should raise some rather urgent questions of its own about our political and elite classes, and their misrule?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, but the problem is that the media all parrot it, and a majority of people believe the bollocks they read / see in the media (especially media regarded as ‘trustworthy’ like the BBC). Attempts to point out facts to such people frequently result in them either claiming it’s a ‘conspiracy theory’, or saying that yes, they can see that the stats show that the government line is bollocks and the measures are counter-productive, but we should still do as the government says anyway to ‘keep people safe’ – such doublethink is very widespread.

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The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
3 years ago

My parents-in-law are currently en route to a government internment camp (the Doubletree in Reading! Having flown into Heathrow!) because they have left South Africa where they lived for 40 years to move back to the UK to be close to their grand kids.

Both double jabbed and both UK citizens.

They cant afford the extortionate amount the government is scamming but are spending most of their savings so they can spend their last few years seeing their grandsons.

I am incensed frankly. We will be getting them their money back by withholding taxes if necessary and I am seriously consider suing under the Consumer Rights Act (any charge for a good or service must be fair and proportionate).

Okay Id lose, but the publicity might be interesting.

Not to mention any charges of false imprisonment I can bring, and anything else anyone can suggest.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

It’s outrageous.

(Although I’m not sure what them being double jabbed has to do with it. The jabs don’t stop infection or infectiousness, so probably the fact that jabbed and unjabbed are treated the same is the only logical part of the policy.)

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The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

No I know about the vaxx. Its just that it ticks the unreasonable government box. But it seems to count for nothing.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

It does demonstrate that whaatever the government might say, it has zero confidence in the clotshots in reality.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

What are you incensed about ? That your parents are having to do this at all or that if they had waited a few more weeks they might have avoided the cost?! Both suck but it sounds to me like the latter. If more people who were outraged about the forced imprisonment of healthy people (and similar policies) and participated in actively protesting this from the start, civil disobedience etc then we wouldn’t have it. I’m sorry if that sounds harsh but it’s too late to save your anger and your protests until it’s an issue that directly affects you.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

When Boris held the border open for a week and a half to let all and sundry in from India to spread the Delta variant, that was OK, wasn’t it? He didn’t get punished…. Will everyone on their aeroplane have to go to quarantine? After all, they were all ‘exposed’ to your parents-in-law. I’m not saying they have any Covid, just that it is one rule for some, and another for others. Hypocrisy and unscientific nonsense.

Glad you see these ‘quarantines’ for what they are – money-spinning scams.

Last edited 3 years ago by Emerald Fox
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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

I’ve noticed that people who talk about what they’re going to do are rarely the people who get things done.

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

Go for it. Also, it does absolutely no harm to enquire about this ‘Common Law’ thing. It may well have legs and it’s far from new. All I know is, the mainstream media make a point of disparaging and dismissing it, which is good enough for me to take a closer look.
I love the name by the way. Wish I’d have thought of that.

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blunt instrument
blunt instrument
3 years ago
Reply to  The Rule of Pricks

Really think you’d get any publicity?

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

“Hotel quarantine was introduced at the start of the year amid growing concern at the emergence of variants that it was feared could undermine the effectiveness of the vaccine roll-out.”

Let’s modify that :

“Hotel quarantine was a marker that the vaccines were known not to work, and effective early treatments were not explored, or withheld. It’s scattergun approach had no basis in reality.”

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Actually is was introduced as an economic measure to push up economic activity by keeping the army of British tourists at home and as stick against the EU to remind them of the value of British tourists.

Part of the Brexit wars which will continue for many years.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Indeed. It has a basis in political reality though – it sounds good to the brainwashed masses who still think protecting our healthy country against nasty, exotic foreign “variants” is necessary and possible.

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It was a test. To see if they could make prisons out of hotels “guarded” by security guards and tell people they had to stay there under threat of a fine. This won’t be the end of this concept but it will be saved for domestic purposes next not travellers.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Hotel quarantine was seen as a clever scam in which government ministers approve some hotels in reward for backhanders.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

Isolating the UK is part of the Global Britain strategy just as coherent as everything else the UK government has done in the last 18 months.

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago

There is also an issue about availability of hotels as they will need more and more for the boat people.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
3 years ago
Reply to  Norman

And the boat people don’t pay!

Barking bloody mad!!!

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

No the tax payer does and the hotel owners make a big fat profit

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Hotel quarantine is another one of the ‘nice little earners’

Last edited 3 years ago by DanClarke
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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

“Hotel quarantine was very much a policy of its time but things have moved on.” Translation: it was never needed, we fucked up big time, but we still think you are dumb and don’t deserve better, and so we are never going to admit, and much less apologize for it.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“Irish government”? Didn’t the “Free State”, under the traitor Varadkar, want to put restrictions on arrivals from the UK? And to think that lot warned about UK independence creating a hard border in Ireland.

And as for the UK, with more “red list” countries than any EU country, and its “freedom loving” premier… what a fraud he is!

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maccone
maccone
3 years ago

An effective way to avoid this pointless fleecing of returning travellers:
Buy a cheap dinghy in Calais and set out across the Channel. Be picked up by RNLI or Coastguards and become a guest of HM Government with all expenses paid.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
3 years ago

I guess we have to be grateful for small mercies, this news certainly contrasts well with that discussed here:

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/09/ny-prepared-for-tens-of-thousands-of-unvaccinated-health-workers-to-lose-jobs/

The headline says all you need to know really, New York State are prepared to make thousands of health service workers unemployed if they refuse to be stabbed and will then deny them unemployment benefit.

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