We’re publishing an original piece today by a senior pharmaceutical company executive setting out the ethical case against vaccinating healthy 12-15 year-olds against SARS-CoV-2. He points out that the risk of myocarditis alone is greater than any potential benefit of being vaccinated for this cohort. There are 3,200,000 12-15 year-olds in the U.K. and if you give a single dose of the vaccine to every one, according to the JCVI, you’re likely to prevent seven children ending up in the paediatric ICU. That’s not seven per million; that’s seven in total. But, according to the same source, the risk of a 12-15 year-old who’s received one dose developing myocarditis is 3-17 per million, so if every child in this cohort receives one dose between 9-54 will develop vaccine-induced myocarditis. Since we don’t know the long-term impact of myocarditis on a person’s health, this data suggests the risk of vaccinating 12-15 year-olds outweighs the risk – and that’s to ignore all the other potential side effects of the Covid vaccines.
Here are two key paragraphs, although the whole piece is excellent:
When it comes to the vaccine-induced safety risks, such as myocarditis, we do not have enough data to adequately assess what they mean for this vulnerable group and, as a result, we do not know how to satisfactorily manage them. This was the point the JCVI was making when raising concerns about the long-term risks. I must also emphasise again; children are not small adults and for 12-15 year-olds with hormones racing and puberty in full swing we cannot necessarily transfer any knowledge or assessment of risks from the adult population to this group. It may be that the risks are short-term, manageable, and acceptable and so the balance of benefit/risk is okay… but the fact is we simply do not know, and finding out by immunising 100,000s of children in uncontrolled circumstances is no way to discover the truth. One cannot ignore these risks just because “they are very rare”, especially when the significant benefits may also be “very rare”.
This is a clear case of where the precautionary principle should be applied and where we should assume the worse outcomes and manage the situation accordingly. Here, we’d assume there will be long-term issues associated with vaccine-induced myocarditis, put in place a routine monitoring plan for those who have already suffered this adverse event to ensure they remain healthy and detect any issues as soon as we can, and not vaccinate anyone else in this group until we understand what, if any, long-term issues there may be. It is ironic to me that the precautionary principle has been wielded by the Government and their advisors to justify a whole host of unproven interventions during the COVID-19 pandemic (think masks, think lockdown), but it appears that when it gets in the way of a desired policy implementation it is something that can just be forgotten. As Groucho Marx once said: “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.”
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Professor David Paton has come at the same issue from a different angle and reached the same conclusion. He’s examined the argument that vaccinating healthy 12-15 year-olds will reduce the disruption to children’s education in the Spectator and concluded that it’s nonsense. He originally set out this critique in a Twitter thread and that prompted Julia Hartley-Brewer to have him on her show to flesh out the argument. You can see a clip here.
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Great piece again. I sincerely hope Americans were watching.
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Scientists: Boys Aged 12-15 Are Hospitalized Up To 23x More Due To COVID Vaccines Than Due To COVID (notrickszone.com)
Brilliant.
The JCVI 3-17 per million number for myocarditis risk may be quite a bit too low. Public Health Ontario says 62 per million in males age 12-17 https://twitter.com/Taka_tut/status/1438252553767170049#m
This says the risk for some genders and cohorts might be as high as 1 in 3000 or higher. Now if 10 million young athletes (junior high school to pros) do develop myocarditis, the question becomes what number of these people will die from the condition – even soon after vaccination or perhaps years later? I think some number, maybe small, will die. But this “small” number will be much larger than zero, which is the number of U.S. athletes who have died of COVID to date. Also, as this series of tweets reveals, these cases of myocarditis are said to be “mild” – but 60 percent of them resulted in hospitalization.
Excellent summary of te ethical issues.
My only minor quibble is with :
“in the JCVI’s assessment there are some potential benefits associated with COVID-19 vaccination to 12-15 year-olds,”
Patently, the certain benefits are too minor and uncertain to be a consideration in the equation.
For a healthy child 12 to 15 – one with no severe pre-existing medical conditions – the probability such a child will die from COVID are about 1 in 2 million. As a percentage, this risk of death is 0.0001 percent. That is, the risk is literally 0 if we only go out three decimal points past the first zero.
When you have a zero percent risk of dying from some disease, there are no benefits from taking a vaccine, whose risks are NOT zero.
Principles? These thugs have no principles.
12-15 years olds? The ethics of jabbing them, on the grounds they will suffer less from missing less school is a non-medical justification which has been allowed to tip the balance in favour of them being jabbed. That pales into comparison with what is coming next.
Apparently pfizer is currently trialling jabbing 6 month old babies. They will soon be coming for babies. Developing immune systems….and a spike protein. The potential for untold harm simply doesn’t bear thinking about. Very hard to not see depop agenda now.
VAERS does show birth defects. That’s when a relatively small no of pregnant women are jabbed. Of course, there’s a steady background rate – what next though? And I see stillbirths have gone up.
“Ethical bankruptcy”. = Evil. I can’t think of any other word for it, especially where Whitty and Vallance and Van Tam are concerned as they know the truth.
They are just practioners in applied, utilitarian morale: Sacrifice some group of others to save their own hides. But – hey – at least, they won’t be road-killing many of these others. Shouldn’t that be good enough for everyone?
Clearly confessing now that the whole coronapanic was futile would end their careers, same goes for the PM etc. But there’s a difference between that and doubling down on vaxxing kids, vaxx passports etc. They could have walked away from this at any stage after vaxxing the “vulnerable” and declared victory, but they haven’t.
This is presumably a zero COVID strategy in disguise: It is conjectured that vaccination reduces transmission by some amount. Hence, vaccinating every person in the world may still accomplish the desired WHO goal of Sars-CoV2 eradication. As a side effect, it’ll also keep the pandemic going for really long time, ideally forever, so the happy money-go-round all kinds of people and organizations are interested in can continue.
Ultimatively, for as long as single person on this planet hasn’t been vaccinated (with an open-ended number of jabs, currently 4 in Israel) they don’t have to admit that their strategy really didn’t work.
A strategy of WHO-eradication, possibly by injection, although I’d prefer breaking on the wheel, might lead to better medium-term COVID-outcome for the overwhelming majority of people.
“ it’ll also keep the pandemic going for really long time, ideally forever” Some of the actors in this shitshow have probably thought this through very carefully, others are winging it and taking steps to keep out going more by instinct than grand design, but in the end it amounts to more or less the same thing – covid is the gift that keeps on giving for those with their hands on the levers of power
No, it’s a vaccine ID programme not even wearing a fake moustache.
The main obstacle to a zero covid strategy is the acknowledgement that RNA Coronaviruses in general reside in the mammalian animal population in various forms. Ergo there will always be the chance of a zoonotic source in the future, notwithstanding laboratory experimentaion and escape. See conclusion of this paper.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8128218/
Curious:
“The first known severe disease caused by a CoV in humans emerged with the aevere acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) epidemic in China (Guan et al. 2003; Kuiken et al. 2003; Zhou et al. 2020), which killed 774 people during its 2002/2003 outbreak. The Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) was the second human disease, which started in 2012 in Saudi Arabia, resulting in 858 fatalities (Van Boheemen et al. 2012; Zaki et al. 2012).” 10.4102/ojvr.v87i1.1895
Meanwhile ‘flu pandemics have killed hundreds of thousands in previous episodes, viz Swine ‘flu,, 2009.
Where is the “track and trace” zoological trail of SARS COV2; evidently there is none. SARS COV2 does not reside in the mammalian population because it is derivatively a chimeric, gain of function genetically modified virus combined from Corona-viral elements that infect bats and rats – and not humans – and has a feature ever seen in other coronaviruses. SARS COV2 has been developed to be highly transmissible, and pathogenically lethal, in a lab via a computer programme – not denied but openly admitted by Daszak and Zhengli – but I understand that after it’s release to the world by whatever means it cannot be controlled; it mutates and variants escape hosts just as all viruses do.
Please can someone tell me how you reach Zero-Covid – by which I infer a state where the mutated variants no longer are pathogenic to humans – by these “vaccines” programmes after 18 months of lockdowns….and how on this earth can it – Zero-Covid/mass
vaccinesgene editing by reverse transcription from RNA >DNA – be even contemplated when previous influenza pandemics have killed millions, latterly ‘000.000’s per year, numbers far far in excess of the FR of SARS COV2 induced Covid 19?Ever wondered why Daszak has never appeared in front of the cameras that I have seen – has anyone else…?
I did respond but for some reason the “moderator” saw fit to not allow it….merely questioning the utter fallacy of “Zero Covid”
To shooters, moderator is a term for silencer ..very appropriate.
They’re on board. Who knows why or what for. Does it matter? We’ll find out later. In the meantime, they need to be stopped. The whole evil scheme needs to be defeated.
What we are seeing now is the kind of textbook tactics you see in an abusive relationship; moving the goalposts none stop until people don’t know whether they are coming or going and are completely ground down and demoralised. I believe many people are now so despondent they would agree to anything at the moment. 5 boosters a year? Sure thing! The government, and those evil, morally bankrupt bastards they employed to help with the psychological messaging/marketing on all this have played a blinder, there is no denying that
Interesting thread from the London branch of the Weston A Price Foundation on why vaccine mandates are a bluff in legal terms https://twitter.com/WAPFLondon/status/1419968605593247760
Great information thanks
Very good to know, thank you.
This is just one of those things that people (in this case parents) just have to say no to, preferably en masse. On the face of it, parents are currently in control of the situation; up to this point all that’s happened is the government have approved the roll out of jabs to this cohort. The parents can still say no, and in most of those cases, the child will also say no.
The difficulty comes when the inevitable attempts are made on the part of the school to “educate” the child about vaccination. This is where a cognitive rift could creep in between a family previously unanimous about not vaccinating their children, and the child who has now been brainwashed (malleable as their brains are at that age) into believing that it is the right thing to do.
Imagine being a 12-year-old in the following situation: Your parents say no, but your authority figures in school are practically telling you that you must, and the peer pressure that comes from seeing all others fall in line with the jabsters and the heightened status that affords them drags you in two irreconcilable directions.
… And the CMOs of the UK’s nations now tell us that will be good for a child’s mental health?!!! Please pinch me, somebody.
Obviously the vaccination teams were hired months ago and the plan to vaccinate youngsters pre-ordained. Now the state is fishing around for some justification after the fact.
Remember when we were implored through propaganda messages to “Just Say No” to drugs? Well lets heed that advice when it matters the most and “Just Say No” to this one!
The problem is, there’s no real resistance. People can easily find out where their MP or members of SAGE live and go round to their homes and deal with them. This hasn’t happened. Parents can go into the schools next week and stop the vaccinations – this isn’t going to happen.
What we have had is a bunch of people wandering round the streets of London once a month on a Saturday, shouting slogans and meeting up with like-minded folk and friends… and… err… that’s about it.
Resistance is also almost impossible to organise with all communications being monitored.
I think, by this stage, that the Government is just going to carry on steamrollering what it wants through, they know there is no-one to stop it. The country borders remain effectively closed with PCR tests and quarantine still not got rid of, they have you all penned up and ready for jabbing, and encouraging the sanctimonious ‘vaxxed’ to blame ‘the unvaxxed’ for the continuation of Covid and the lockdown measures.
There will inevitably be deaths and long term injuries. Apart from that, millions of kids will be made ill enough to have to take time out from their “precious education”. That may get people’s attention, albeit too late.
Yes the unusually high level of adverse events reported by Pfizer in their very underpowered trial of vax for 12-15 year olds don’t seem to have been taken into account when considering disruption to education! After the second shot they found that 25% were “unable to do normal daily activities” https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-06/03-COVID-Shimabukuro-508.pdf
This is government sponsored criminality.
There is clearly a bigger agenda in play for Boris and chums.
” the precautionary principle has been wielded…”
No, the precautionary principle has been totally perverted.
Please watch Del Bigtree’s Highwire show on last evening and every Thursday evening at 7pm online. A brilliant discussion of the mess being created by vaxxing the planet and now teens and intent to vaxx younger children. It is one big mess. Sadly, it appears the unvaxxed will be in more danger from the vaxxed as boosters are given.
England, that nation of dog lovers and child abusers.
England, that nation of dog lovers and GMC registered child abusers.
And not just children. Check this testimony of a Milton Keynes funeral director : lbry://@CosmicEvent#5/MUST-WATCH!!!-FUNERAL-DIRECTOR-JOHN-OLOONEY-BLOWS-THE-WHISTLE-ON-COVID#3
I had the misfortune to catch some of the new series of BBC Question Time last night. Interestingly Andrew Neil was on the panel so, inevitably, questions came up about GB News and why he had left the channel. I know some commenters on here admire Neil but, personally, I have never considered him to be anything but a fake serious journalist, backed up by an aura of confidence and journalistic authority. My opinion was based largely on the fact that when he had his regular Sunday morning BBC show he was always at the vanguard of sustaining the BBC propaganda line regarding events in Syria and the anti-Russia narrative.
On QT he did his utmost to slag off GB News both for its initial production hiccups, the approach of the channel’s editorial team (other than himself) and the direction they are going in. The other panellists generally mocked the channel with snide comments about “zero viewing figures confirming how bad it was”. It was clear that Neil’s presence on QT was solely to open up an opportunity to demean the GB News channel and put BBC viewers off tuning into it if they had been tempted. .
One of the criticisms voiced by one of the panel – not Neil, but equally not challenged by him – was that GB News is “guilty of causing divisions”. It was clear that this criticism was pointing to the fact that they have guests with differing opinions and allow them to voice those opinions, unlike MSM. In other words GB News is guilty of allowing and promoting the free speech denied elsewhere.
This comment got me wondering about Neil. He kept being pressed about why he had quit but he didn’t really give a plausible answer, limiting his explanation to some differences of opinion (not specified) and the need to improve his work/life balance. But it struck me that someone had possibly had a word with him and told him that he should be aware that if GB News persisted in allowing debate on ‘controversial’ issues his journalistic reputation would be in tatters.
Late as I am to the party, I have to say this is a brilliant post, a proper takedown of the decision making that arrives at the jabbing of 12-15 year olds. I am so glad my three daughters are in their early 30’s, though they have all decided to become double jabbed, against my fervent requests for them not to do so. I am so afraid of what the future holds after the jabbing, and now for two grandsons 2 and three months.
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Seroprevalence studies suggest 50% of kids already have antibodies so a vaccine for them can only ever have a cost & no benefit.